I believe we should claim our actions, as well as what we know we've been hit by. I intend to claim mine as well, after others have. I tried something interesting last night and I want to know what effect if any it had on people targeting me.


Here's what's been claimed so far:

Tanzklaue -

Hit by: Pink Marshmallow
Dreamed: ???



pieguy -

Hit by: Nothing?
Dreamed: Remilia on Self



Tsukasa -

Hit by: Gained a Power?
Dreamed: ???


Lilac -

Hit by: RP?
Dreamed: ???



Raging Bull -

Hit by: Nothing?
Dreamed: ???



NoHitter -

Hit by: Nothing?
Dreamed: ???




Rantai -

Hit by: Nothing?
Dreamed: ???




CalignoBot -

Hit by: Nothing?
Dreamed: ???


BRBP -

Hit by: Nightkill
Dreamed: Unknown



LadySuburu -

Hit by: Unclaimed
Dreamed: Unclaimed



Nyquill -

Hit by: Nothing?
Dreamed: ???



fartownik -

Hit by: Nothing?
Dreamed: ???

CalignoBot is seeing a subtle pattern...

Unvote: pieguy1372
Vote: fartownik

I would really like to know who targeted me

Guys let's not waste a lynch on pieguy.

TRUST ME. :wink:

By the way, CalignoBot believes that focusing on the post restrictions is a dead end route.

CalignoBot wrote:

By the way, CalignoBot believes that focusing on the post restrictions is a dead end route.

Noting who recieved/sent what post restrictions can help us, but further than that I agree that there's not likely much we can learn from them.

Lily White from Touhou.

fartownik wrote:

So you transformed yourself into a Touhou character? Dafuq, how is that even useful.

Remi had an annoyed look on her face
"screw usefulness! This is way cooler" > < *hits fartownik*
"besides, it's not like any action would accomplish much if it's practically D1"

EBWOP: Lolz, answered the post on the previous page. Gimme a moment to read.

CalignoBot wrote:

CalignoBot is seeing a subtle pattern...

Unvote: pieguy1372
Vote: fartownik

Excuse me, may I know why?

Also getting to know the restrictions is one way to gain at least A LITTLE information. That's the start we're looking for.

fartownik wrote:

Lily White from Touhou.

yea, because lily white acts like that, always reminiscent of her past as mafia player and with superclouded memories.

given that pieguy doesn't do remilia too much technical justice (read: it's his interpretation of the character), I don't think that it is lily white from touhou.

I'm a pink marshmallow~

CalignoBot sees that fartownik is worried a lot about the post restrictions and is tunneling on the idea.

He believes this is the start we need to get this game rolling.

I just doubt they all have been given restrictions by different players/themselves. There must be some kind of pattern that made this happen during the night, it's just too much of a coincidence for me.

fartownik wrote:

I just doubt they all have been given restrictions by different players/themselves. There must be some kind of pattern that made this happen during the night, it's just too much of a coincidence for me.

I can give you an explanation.

give a bunch of people UNLIMITED POWERS.

they will fuck around.

I'm a pink marshmallow~

Tanzklaue wrote:

fartownik wrote:

I just doubt they all have been given restrictions by different players/themselves. There must be some kind of pattern that made this happen during the night, it's just too much of a coincidence for me.

I can give you an explanation.

give a bunch of people UNLIMITED POWERS.

they will fuck around.

I'm a pink marshmallow~

These are not UNLIMITED POWERS, they're limited to a certain extent.

I'm still waiting for Lilac and Nyquill to claim their actions, I'm not sure of anything before that.

CalignoBot wrote:

CalignoBot sees that fartownik is worried a lot about the post restrictions and is tunneling on the idea.

Wait, tunneling on the idea? I want to get to know who targeted who, and it's a part of getting to know who might've targeted BRBP during the night.

Mind explaining how is that not useful?

fartownik is willing to speculate about the night actions, specifically about the least useful part about it, but he has given no indication of being willing to do anything besides that.

The usefulness of understanding these post limitations is limited.

Yet you have done nothing but picking up to my speculations about the post restrictions, which are still more useful than your nothing.

Also Lilac has been browsing the forum for some time already, but didn't bother claiming/answering what kind of "Lily" he truly is.

fartownik's attempt to label CalignoBot's scumhunting as nothing has been noted.

I would accept it as scumhunting if you had true reasons to put doubts in my theories.

Right now we're going in circles which is leading us nowhere. Cutting this discussion for now and waiting for the claim from Nyq and Lilac.

Oh I think I get it now.

@fart - Lily is being Lily as far as I can tell. No touhou involved here.

Rantai wrote:

Oh I think I get it now.

@fart - Lily is being Lily as far as I can tell. No touhou involved here.

Tell that to pieguy.

@Pieguy:

Besides the horrible backfire of post restrictions, what other things do you have?

There*

One missed letter changed the entire meaning of that sentence

Tsukasa wrote:

@Pieguy:

Besides the horrible backfire of post restrictions, what other things do you have?

Remi seemed slightly annoyed by this question.
"I gained an ability but I'm prohibited from saying what it is.."

Oh. Ok.

I understand.

@Everyone else:

Following up on the person who "Had a dream of me".

It would surely help me decrease scumpool

Remi's face suddenly lightened up a bit. it seemed she had an idea
"Everyone, I have a plan. Let's determine who we'll lynch at least 24 hours before the deadline. I can't say why, but if we do, at the point 24 hours before the deadline, something nice will happen ~"

Tsukasa wrote:

@Everyone else:

Following up on the person who "Had a dream of me".

It would surely help me decrease scumpool

¿Que?

I agree about the "24 hours before".

That was actually my plan from the start. Though I really need to know who gave me stuff.

CalignoBot wrote:

Tsukasa wrote:

@Everyone else:

Following up on the person who "Had a dream of me".

It would surely help me decrease scumpool

¿Que?

Because it's not me who did this to me.

Otherwise, It'll be different

I did nnt dream about you tsukasa

Lily yawns a bit as she wakes up, coming out later from the house that she was sleeping and still hearing people talking.

"First..." Lily interrupts before she starts yawning again, "...I didn't have dreams of Tsukasa, that would be weird. Second, I was the one who randomly dreamt up this so called 'post restriction' to talk like they were in a story."

Lily mulls over a bit but still needs time to think.

"Yeah, not sure what else to say at this point. Wondering about these post restrictions doesn't help at all, farto." Lily yawns as she realises something and giggles, "I didn't expect Nyquill of all people to receive it though."

CalignoBot thinks Tsukasa is a pretty dreamy guy, which makes it all the more strange that the latter was not in the former's dream last night.

@RB: Fix that Typo.

@Caligno: Stop. Talking. In. 3rd. Person. It messes with me
That was a serious question, and an answer shall help me with my reads.

EBWODP: A DIRECT answer of Yes or No

"He obviously meant that he didn't see you in his dreams." Lily says as she mews for a bit as well, taking the hat from Remilia and wearing it. "Nice hat, by the way. One of the dreams I suggested was to talk in the third person as well so I'm actually loving it right now that he's doing that."

I did not dream about face tsukasa

pieguy1372 wrote:

Tsukasa wrote:

@Pieguy:

Besides the horrible backfire of post restrictions, what other things do you have?

Remi seemed slightly annoyed by this question.
"I gained an ability but I'm prohibited from saying what it is.."

Nyquill seemed quite startled at this revelation.

"It would seem that we are on the same boat as that one then... but it would also seem that we are not when it comes to what we did respectively during the night. That means the ability we gained came from other influences."

Nyquill at this point in time is absolutely not sure about what exactly are the limits of what is allowed to be done.

Lilac wrote:

"I didn't expect Nyquill of all people to receive it though."

Oh?

@Tsukasa - I didn't dream of you

Nyquill hurridly flips back to the list of rules.

Sakura wrote:

3. Targetting multiple people with a single night action is banned at the mod's discretion, however you can target multiple people if you cant control who you'll target (example: PGO), Bus driver is an exception. I may allow some actions to target everyone as it will also affect the person sending it.

"ah, so that was possible then".

Lily yawns for a bit. "I'm actually not forced to do this. I just thought it would be fun."

She stretches for a bit before sitting down. "All I said was to give a random person the restriction that was like this, that's it. So Nyquill was probably the lucky person who got it."

Remilia was surprised at someone stealing her hat
"hey, give that back!"
"anyway, I didn't target anyone, and the ability I got seems fitting for myself so I don't think I would have got it from someone else. Thus, either someone granted us abilities or we naturally gained abilities ourselves as a result of our transformations, or a combination of both."

Ahh ok.

Honestly this is starting to hurt my brain.

Lily walks up to Rantai before running her hand down his body. "Join us~" Lily giggles before she takes his hat as well and wears it on top.

"Hell, typing like this is impossible without a keyboard. You can't do this on a phone, by the way." Lily says as she twiddles her thumbs, "Anyone with investigative roles? If you're restricted in saying them or using them, I understand."

Lilac wrote:

Lily yawns for a bit. "I'm actually not forced to do this. I just thought it would be fun."

She stretches for a bit before sitting down. "All I said was to give a random person the restriction that was like this, that's it. So Nyquill was probably the lucky person who got it."

Nyquill looks back at the still open rule page.

"seems like a waste, you could have potentially made everyone storytellers today..."

Lilac is town.

That's 1 down.

Cant tell if lilac is rolefishing for investigating role.

What did he do to make you say hes town?

Tsukasa wrote:

I agree about the "24 hours before".

That was actually my plan from the start. Though I really need to know who gave me stuff.

So it's obvious you're both Day Vigilante with pieguy.

If this is true then we can simply do 3 days in 1. Everytime we're about to lynch, you or pieguy kill the person with the most amount of votes. We don't let night to happen - we don't let nightkill to happen, unless scum is also Day Vigilante, or one of you is.

Also you can't agree with me as you're prohibited to say what your role is - don't do it then. I know I'm right.

You guys should stop posting too much when I'm in uni.

Anyway guys, someone changed my role into something useful today.
Sadly because of the rules, my role will revert back at the end of the day.
I also have a restriction wherein I cannot say what role I am until I use my role.
I'm not going to be an idiot (like some posthumous person here) and just use it on someone without town's consensus on Day 1.

So who shall I target?

EBWOP: Ninja'd by farto
So we have four lynch chances today? Cool.

Is this real life

As farto starts to point out what he thinks are guns on other people's belts, he suddenly notices something ticking on his one, he hurriedly grabs it and notices that his gun has turned into a bomb that explodes on his face!

fartownik's face was blown up! oh and he also died.


Votes are reset

Lily jumps back as she sees the explosion. Not comprehending at all at what she just saw.

"No...come on. I-It can't be like this..." Lily mumbles as she bites on her lip as the sight of it makes her sort of sick. "U-Ugh... I think I'm turning in for the night after that."

Lily said those final words before she started to go back to sleep, thinking deeply as to what to do.

I confirmed something with the mod.
Apparently there's a trap that has been set or something.
My guess that it has something to do with the role and saying its name.

Since many people are asking, fartownik triggered a trap.
Traps are post restrictions that arent mentioned in PM, and are usually one time only with things like "first person to do x" or "third person to do y".

Lilac wrote:

Lily walks up to Rantai before running her hand down his body. "Join us~" Lily giggles before she takes his hat as well and wears it on top.

>.<

--

And wow, good bye fart?

I can guess why he was killed with a high degree of certainty, I'm beginning to think this really was a blanket effect.

I just slightly shat my pants at the thought of posting anything now :3

I'm a pink marshmallow~

Sigh, back to square one.

CalignoBot will reread the thread and see if he can find another lead.

In a brief lapse of momment I realized I forgot to add flavor for Day 1, flavor for Day 1 has been added, also take it in mind while doing analysis.

Another thing i forgot is to create ISOs which i'll do when i get home. Or my Internet can go down all day so that'll have to wait.

So, did nobody target me last night with anything? If you did please let me know, as I'd like to confirm something about my action last night, and make sure it's not going to be harmful.

I still think claiming all our actions would be helpful, but it doesn't seem like anyone wants to.

Also, I'd say that farto's most likely town due to the trap, so we could revive him. Not sure how effectively we can do that since if we state that we want to revive him, scum can plan around anything we communicate.

"If you just ignored what I did then that's your own loss!" Lily pouts as she crosses her arms and looks away.

Lilac wrote:

"If you just ignored what I did then that's your own loss!" Lily pouts as she crosses her arms and looks away.

I got yours down, but you're really the only one.

EBWOP: Also, claiming all of our actions means the person who laid the trap has to lie about their action (unless they're town, which I severely doubt) we can use that to analyze people's claimed actions and determine a good canadate for a D1 (even though it's technically D2) lynch.

I can give you my night action no problem.

I gave myself bulletproof.

I'm a pink marshmallow~

I just had fun with my dream choice really. Although I did not set a trap for anyone at all.

Tanzklaue wrote:

I can give you my night action no problem.

I gave myself bulletproof.

I'm a pink marshmallow~

I'm willing to test this out with my ability.

Tsukasa wrote:

Lilac is town.

That's 1 down.

so like

Raging Bull wrote:

What did he do to make you say hes town?

I'd like to know that too, unless we're going off random day 1 reads again.

@tsukasa and NH:

did you target yourself with your nightactions?

I'm a pink marshmallow~

NoHitter wrote:

Tanzklaue wrote:

I can give you my night action no problem.

I gave myself bulletproof.

I'm a pink marshmallow~

I'm willing to test this out with my ability.

I think this is a good course of action, since unless I read wrong the BP should last until today ends.

I'm going to give until later tonight (after work's through) for more responses to me, then I'm claiming my action, what I was hit by, and updating the actions list.

Hnggggg this game. CalignoBot literally can't find anything else in this thread that gives him any reads. He is getting pretty annoyed that so much of this day has been wasted so far.

Alright, looks like the mafia fish aren't biting. I was hoping they'd claim something like doctor on me in fear of what I was mentioning earlier. Guess I'll reveal my side of actions now.

But first, FOS: Lilac, NH, Rantai, and to a lesser extent pieguy.

Why?

My action last night was to redirect all actions taken on me to BRBP. You know, the one who was NKed last night. I did this specifically because in general, I'm the target for N1 NKs when I'm in games. BRBP was as good of a (revenge for another game) choice as anyone else.

So, I theorize that I was most likely the NK target last night, and at least one of the four above is scum. It's not impossible that BRBP was targeted, but I severely doubt it.

It's a better lead than nothing for me, so I'll be analyzing these four.


Lilac: Claims to have sent out a random RPing restriction. Seems backed up by Nyquill, though could be teamed scum. Claimed action didn't hurt town really, but didn't help either. Some posts with content.

Rantai: Not done much. No claim on dream, but says they didn't target Tsukasa. Few posts of content.

NH: Seems to have a shot available from someone else. Hasn't claimed his own action. Allowing town to vote on his shot. Nothing too abnormal from NH here, as even though his lessened posting seems odd to me, he was like that in Jester as well, and was town there.

pieguy: Claims to have turned himself into Remi. Claims to have gotten a power, potentially from his own action. Says if we decide on a lynch target 24hrs before deadline something good will happen. Potential shot to use here as well.

Out of all of these, pieguy and Rantai seem the most odd to me. Lilac's action seems fitting for her, NH is being NH. I don't know pieguy well enough, and Rantai's giving me that same feeling he always gives me, though it's early in the game.

Tanzklaue -

Hit by: Pink Marshmallow
Dreamed: Bulletproof - Self



pieguy -

Hit by: Nothing?
Dreamed: Remilia



Tsukasa -

Hit by: Gained a Power?
Dreamed: ???


Lilac -

Hit by: Nothing?
Dreamed: Random player RP restriction.



Raging Bull -

Hit by: Nothing?
Dreamed: "Had fun with action"???



NoHitter -

Hit by: Nothing?
Dreamed: Gave gun to self?




Rantai -

Hit by: Nothing?
Dreamed: ???




CalignoBot -

Hit by: Nothing?
Dreamed: ???


BRBP -

Hit by: Nightkill
Dreamed: Unknown



LadySuburu -

Hit by: NK -> Redirected to BRBP?
Dreamed: Redirected all actions on self to BRBP



Nyquill -

Hit by: Lily's RP restrict?
Dreamed: ???



fartownik -

Hit by: Trap during day.
Dreamed: ???

So I'll likely be going for Rantai or pie for my lynch vote, unless something else comes up.

I'd like thoughts first, though.

Well you see here, I don't have anything to claim for dream, because I didn't make a submission before night's deadline. I want this to be cleared up.


Not sure what you expect in terms of content, I've already given my speculation on the setup of the current situation but tiptoed around it very very obtusely because I am damned paranoid atm. That and I am genuinely confused as to why there are so many restrictions (still trying to put two and two together, I thought the op only mentioned restrictions for lightning rods..?), I had no idea you could dream a character instead of a role and I didn't know what a trap was until fart exploded.

Vote: LadySubaru

That post reeks.

1. That FoS list doesn't make any sense. The reasoning in that post looks alignment-neutral to CalignoBot.
2. Testing the waters.

fartownik wrote:

Tsukasa wrote:

I agree about the "24 hours before".

That was actually my plan from the start. Though I really need to know who gave me stuff.

So it's obvious you're both Day Vigilante with pieguy.

If this is true then we can simply do 3 days in 1. Everytime we're about to lynch, you or pieguy kill the person with the most amount of votes. We don't let night to happen - we don't let nightkill to happen, unless scum is also Day Vigilante, or one of you is.

Also you can't agree with me as you're prohibited to say what your role is - don't do it then. I know I'm right.

I'm guessing you're the one who gave me Vig :p

WAIT SHIT

Shoot: Nyquill

CalignoBot wrote:

Vote: LadySubaru

That post reeks.

1. That FoS list doesn't make any sense. The reasoning in that post looks alignment-neutral to CalignoBot.
2. Testing the waters.

The FoS list is the people who know me, have played with me before, and would have reason to target me with the NK.

Also, in what way does "That post reeks" = "Reasoning looks alignment-neutral"? Mind clarifying a bit there?

Tsukasa wrote:

WAIT SHIT

Shoot: Nyquill

Oh, while I was posting.

What be the reason for shooting?

Tsukasa wrote:

WAIT SHIT

Shoot: Nyquill

What the fuck? Why would you shoot someone without reasoning? Just like another BRBP again.

LadySuburu wrote:

CalignoBot wrote:

Vote: LadySubaru

That post reeks.

1. That FoS list doesn't make any sense. The reasoning in that post looks alignment-neutral to CalignoBot.
2. Testing the waters.

The FoS list is the people who know me, have played with me before, and would have reason to target me with the NK.

Also, in what way does "That post reeks" = "Reasoning looks alignment-neutral"? Mind clarifying a bit there?

Both parts could have been clarified a lot better.

CalignoBot's point on that post reeking is separate from the the second statement. The latter is only referring to LadySubaru's points on each FoSed player as CalignoBot got the impression those were the cases.

Tsukasa confirmed for either going full retard or rambo headshots.

You guys misunderstand. He broke the condition which was not to mention what the role was specifically...
So yeah, let's vote on who I will use my role on before I make a mistake like that...

NoHitter wrote:

You guys misunderstand. He broke the condition which was not to mention what the role was specifically...
So yeah, let's vote on who I will use my role on before I make a mistake like that...

Ah, I see now.

Still need confirmation on if Tanz's BP runs out at the end of the day. If it does, I'd say test him to make sure he's true.

Any shots fired will not reveal the role of the player if it kills, so unless someone reveals them later it doesn't matter.

Also, unrevealed players can be revived. Even if we hit mafia, there's a large chance they'll revive that player.

I'm not sure the usefulness of shots unless we have a cop result, so we likely shouldn't go all guns blazing here.

I think all roles will revert at the end of day

Remilia seemed surprised at Tsukasa.
"probably it was something like he can't mention his role till he shoots, so he shot someone to avoid being modkilled? I don't know" > <
she also seemed surprised LS would accuse her, and defended herself accordingly
"hey, how dare you accuse me" *slaps LS*
"I can understand your reasoning, it seems suspicious if you just happen to be the one who's shot. however, I initially thought someone shot him just as payback for what he did in Touhou mafia where he just shot someone D1. given that reason, it could possibly be a lot more people.. also, keep in mind people lose their role on the next day, so they have to use it or dream it again"
"I too think NH hasn't been posting as much, but that's one of the only things I can see here. Tanz seems normal for me, so does Lilac. Caligno also seems normal... everything seems normal, AAA ~ i have no idea what to think.. imo it's weird fartownik suddenly stopped posting though. I can't recall him doing that before.."

Remilia seemed slightly annoyed after saying all this
"uu, I'm getting bored talking so much. Let's do something ~ "
vote: NoHItter

Raging Bull wrote:

I think all roles will revert at the end of day

That's the impression I get from rule 5, yes.

@pieguy: fart stopped posting because he blew up. Dead. Did you miss that somehow?

Remilia slapped herself on the head
"aaa how did I forget that" > < "I'm such a baka sometimes, plus I'm so tired now cause there's too much sunlight..."
"well, never mind what I said about him then. I really need to go inside for a while."

A meta argument for a vote in a game where everyone is a PR who can do anything? -_-
That's a pretty weak vote IMO.

"I'm surprised that you still have to motivation to play mafia after mostly dying D1 or N1, NoHitter." Lily said as she starts slumping against a wall. "Especially saying that you're 'bored' and wanting to do 'something', pieguy. The basis of the vote is weak and if your only reason to vote is not posting as much, you need a lot more thinking."

Lily starts to play with the two hats that she has. "Some twisted game, huh? Especially when 'someone' forgot farto blowing up spontaneously."

So I can't analyize shit, but is Tsukasa really this random? Town read someone and then shoot someone else and I don't really know any explanation.

guys, guys, guys.

he didn't blow up. so the keyword is the other part of the role name.

also seems like the role itself is bogus.
or tsukasa lied about having that role.

if you want to test my BP, go for it, though it might be irrelevant as there might be nobody who can actually do something with the role.

I'm a pink marshmallow~

I think the fact that the mod stated that he had a gun and tried to shoot it makes it seem that he was given a role.
Either the role is bogus as Tanz said, or maybe Nyquill has a BP or something?

Nope.

I ALMOST did shit that I wasn't supposed to do.

And also, I pretty much know what lucid dreamers is.

Even if you were given a gun, doesn't mean you have bullets.

2nd.

Reaction testing failed because nyquill never posted.

But anyways.

RB is town
I knew should have shot LadySuburu. Dammit

Not too late to get this wagon rolling.