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Pizzicato
hoping for a game 5 i need more of these kinds of games :D
rzkadi
again!! alliance letting navi going for a greedy draft
Pizzicato
they cant counter that alchemist pick na`vi banned all supports [a] can get
[a]'s cores are actually supports
Pizzicato
suddenly nightstalker rolling
xsrsbsns
mfw hvost on alchemist another fucking time, admiralbulldogv2
Soulclenz

xsrsbsns wrote:

mfw hvost on alchemist another fucking time, admiralbulldogv2
When you're playing for an Aegis, and 2.8 million dollars, you play any hero as many times as you need to =p.
bmin11
This is the craziest game I've every seen so early in the game
Pizzicato
GOOD GAME <3
bmin11
S4 Puck fucking MVP
Magicphoenix
Congratulations to Alliance, they deserved it and they did it.
Poor NaVi only getting 2nd place again :P
rzkadi
OMFG that was awesome
Pizzicato

bmin11 wrote:

S4 Puck fucking MVP

that TP cancel man. fucking brilliant
bmin11

Pizzicato wrote:

bmin11 wrote:

S4 Puck fucking MVP

that TP cancel man. fucking brilliant
Not only once, but twice. TWICE.
dNextGen
not as good as TI 2 Finals

no big fight just ratdoto and shit
bmin11

dNextGen wrote:

not as good as TI 2 Finals

no big fight just ratdoto and shit
Hello? Bot lane 1:3? Mid-tower dive? Roshan pit?

I guess we didn't had any 3 ~ 4 man ulti, but still
dNextGen
i kinda fall asleep during the mid tower dive and when i woke up 2 rax already down on Navi's side
Pizzicato

dNextGen wrote:

i kinda fall asleep during the mid tower dive and when i woke up 2 rax already down on Navi's side
well that's your fault. game 3 and game 5 were the most serious games i've ever watched

na`vi had the teamfight superiority but [a] resorted to split push

then they suddenly wanted to TP back, and then the dream coil

AAAGHHHH CANT CONTAIN MY SHIT
Magicphoenix
Both TP cancels were NaVi's fault though :(
bmin11
You gotta watch the highlight at least. You missed out so much. I was thrilled the entire game through.


EDIT: if they just pushed mid, they may have had the game? idk
dNextGen
doesnt matter,wp [A], Navi fanboi tears best tears <3
Pizzicato

Magicphoenix wrote:

Both TP cancels were NaVi's fault though :(
yeah. s4 knew they were gonna TP. na`vi didnt see it coming

bmin11 wrote:

You gotta watch the highlight at least. You missed out so much. I was thrilled the entire game through.


EDIT: if they just pushed mid, they may have had the game? idk
idk bulldog had necro 3 and wisp ck was on bottom raxing
Soulclenz
Wow. Amazing last game. Say what you want but both teams played amazingly and there were some hard calls being made on both sides, that was truly a 2.8 million dollar series.

I love The Internationals and plan on going there in person next year, what an awesome week of dota2 it has been.
Pizzicato

Soulclenz wrote:

Wow. Amazing last game. Say what you want but both teams played amazingly and there were some hard calls being made on both sides, that was truly a 2.8 million dollar series.

I love The Internationals and plan on going there in person next year, what an awesome week of dota2 it has been.

definitely.
rzkadi
bulldog had necro 3 right after the 2 rax in top and bottom going down. and then alliance knew what they have to do, and keep split pushing after that
Triskelion91
Congrats to [A]lliance, they played well. s4 made huge plays that last 10 minutes.

That was how an International should have gone. I wished Na'vi won though. :(
Magicphoenix
It was totally obvious S4 was gonna go for Dream Coil TP cancel.
While the second Dream Coil was unfortunate for Dendi (4-5 second tp), the first one could've very well been avoided. Probably the excitement and pressure tough

Either way, nitpicking about those things is dumb anyway.
Once more, congratz to Alliance, totally deserved it
bmin11
The tension was so high I would never have a same Furion-split-push game so thrilled as this game.
Tetsu_old
The best final in the DotA history. Game 3 and 5 were great and in the end the best team of the year won.
Amazing play from S4 in the last game, he won them the game.
Hiryuu_old
Simply fantastic. I don't have a lot of words to say, GGWP Alliance, I was cheering for NAVI, sad that they didn't won, but oh well Alliance splitpushed too well and made the tp canceling in the end their winning moment.

GG
Pizzicato
by the time [a] raxed top and bottom lane, and even stripping that ancient naked, it's checkmate for na`vi.
they cant push anymore because [a] would just backdoor lol
Wishy
Clearly the best two teams in the world, I still get impressed by how Na'Vi screwed around the whole tournament, even gave away one game on the grand final. Good thing Alliance exists, would have been boring to get TI 1 repeated all over again. Looking forward to see how the chinese DotA meta-game changes for TI 4 since they got it stamped on their face: you China-guys are just bad.
rzkadi

bmin11 wrote:

You gotta watch the highlight at least. You missed out so much. I was thrilled the entire game through.


EDIT: if they just pushed mid, they may have had the game? idk
if they just push mid they will bow down faster for sure. puppey and co. knew it really well and decided to tp back.
Pizzicato
so much hate on rice dota lol

and yeah iG and DK got boo'd on TI3 roflmao
Wishy
Chinese DotA being the one with most money on it, and supposedly being the DotA elite, they were really a disappointment, even getting disqualified by low/mid tier teams...
rzkadi
IG deserve that. but i dont think DK is really that bad imo
Pizzicato
rat dota is the new meta

incoming nerf on wisp for sure
CeReBrawl
Good Game well played.
Io keeps his 100% win rate. :D
Pizzicato
and i gotta say. just imagine. losing millions of dollars just because of 2 dream coils. HAHAHAHA
Wishy
I am not even sure that they care.

Naga best hero in the game? I think it's at the same level as wisp.
Xylem Beer


To anyone who missed the finals. (spoilers tho)

DAT BULLDOG REACTION.
dNextGen
RIP Battle Bonus

you will be missed
rzkadi
i will be missing this international hype
Pizzicato

rzkadi wrote:

i will be missing this international hype
till next year
dNextGen


gotta love this Loda dude <3
rzkadi
hahahaha most of dota player are actually good ppl in real life. sometimes they are just too honest that they tend to make some controversial issues about them
Magicphoenix
Or they're just rude. That was just asking to get flamed basically
Magicphoenix
XBOCT : "Too bad that often your destiny depends on bunch of useless idiots... Thanks for your support, but na'vi doubtly will continue with this roster;("

http://vk.com/wall3495719_10405
Roxas

dNextGen wrote:

RIP Battle Bonus

you will be missed
sigh
Pizzicato


dat bulldog's faces and reactions rofl
dNextGen

Magicphoenix wrote:

XBOCT : "Too bad that often your destiny depends on bunch of useless idiots... Thanks for your support, but na'vi doubtly will continue with this roster;("

http://vk.com/wall3495719_10405
Kuroky out,Ars-Art in

D:
rzkadi
presonally i prefer if xboct kicked out and then reclaim LoH. he is a pretty decent carry too
Magicphoenix
He said 2 players in his team are pretty much retarded and there's gonna be roster change.
Pretty obvious who he's adressing
Tetsu_old
DK.XBOCT
dNextGen

Magicphoenix wrote:

He said 2 players in his team are pretty much retarded and there's gonna be roster change.
Pretty obvious who he's adressing
i feel sad for Funn1k for some reason :( :(
Pizzicato


why cant i carry for once
bmin11
Soulclenz
Now what do I do for a whole year until ti4?
Backfire
Orange will always have my support. Mushi is one of the best players of all time, and probably has some of the most incredible game sense of any of the players who were there. A true inspiration. Tackling and beating Na'Vi 2 times and almost knocking them out is truly an achievement in and of itself. They're a young team, they need to grow, and they will.

Just my two cents, they were my favorites to actually win the tourney, had them as winners in my compendium. Oh well, winners in my heart.
Wishy
Na'Vi's roster is unlikely to change. KuroKy is friends with Puppey, Funn1k is friends with Dendi I think or something. From what I've heard XBOCT was mad because KuroKy called the GG instead of Puppey on the first game, he actually did this because XBOCT was getting mad already and the game was lost, so there was no point on getting even more mad by playing a lost game (better get your mate flame you for a few minutes and then calm down than have him go nuts because of a lost game). Also he said that he didn't like the fact that they can't speak russian because of obvious reasons.

Doubt they'll change it tho, they did great on the tournament, somehow outplayed Alliance (to my surprise) but yeah Na'Vi throws, that's how they are.
Magicphoenix
source?
Also, chinese mentality :
post TI2 - lol, we bosses, don't care 'bout Western teams
post G-1 League - lol, we weren't prepared, don't care 'bout Western teams
post Alienware Cup - lol, weren't prepared again
post TI3 - Lol. We suck.
dNextGen
rofl they think placing #4 on TI is bad

another reason why i only <3 SEA and CIS doto
Pizzicato


so i got this item last match
dNextGen
i got that aswell,is that thing any special ?
Pizzicato
just look at it. lol
Backfire
Apparently the Chinese are blaming the organizers for tourneys over there, ACE. There was like 5 big chinese tourneys, compared to the 20+ last year and 30+ the year before.

Certain teams aren't allowed to participate in smaller tourneys which created stagnation. The chinese had a mentality that they were "the best" so they didn't give a shit. The chinese teams only scrim with like 4-5 of each other so they know how to play with each other.

The chinese also have no high risk, high reward type players except for DK who did have some inventive strategies throughout the tourney, rotk is the x-factor there though. This is pretty much why the china vs. china was always slow, "boring" games.

They need to pick up the pace and participate in more tournaments if they wanna do good next year, because the Westies play a hell of a lot more in a competitive enviroment and learn just as fast.
dNextGen
apparently XBOCT can farm 900 gpm+ like burning does in TI3

also how much does this Cauldron thing worth ?

i hope im not a retard for putting this in d2l

Roxas

dNextGen wrote:

apparently XBOCT can farm 900 gpm+ like burning does in TI3

also how much does this Cauldron thing worth ?

i hope im not a retard for putting this in d2l

Trading the immortal compendium gift I think it's not a good thing
btw OMG I WANT PUCK'S WINGS ASIHDPASUPIDBNSA
Mercurial

dNextGen wrote:

apparently XBOCT can farm 900 gpm+ like burning does in TI3

also how much does this Cauldron thing worth ?

i hope im not a retard for putting this in d2l

Overall, hi.

This offer is really retarded, an Immortal Cauldron is 2 keys worth while that Shitty Sword is only 1k worth.

And yeah... Virtus.throw now is lacking of Mid, Offlaner and Carry... yep.

Fuck yes, good bye.
Remco32

Pizzicato wrote:



so i got this item last match
Post it on your personal blog!
Xylem Beer
The teams' reshuffle is slowly starting to begin :D

VP kicked 3, and RTZ leaves Kaipi inb4 Singsing

I hope Light plays with AA again though :)
rzkadi
light wont be going anywhere for a while though. empire pays a lot to get LoH as their roster
dNextGen
i wanna see Empire back on track again tbh

they pulled some crazy shit when Silent and Funn1k was on the team
Roxas
Someone has fashion of yoskreth here? :(
Pizzicato
I have zero knowledge about trading and I got kunkha's whale blade and I don't know how much it would cost in terms of money. May I ask how much? in USD :3
rzkadi
it cost around 6 key iirc
Hiryuu_old
*cough* OT from the standard talk we got here atm, anyhow..a question on my behalf that, is anyone interested in q'ing up sometimes together? I'm slightly getting tired of greifers and people who do not understand common sense and the English language in the US/EU servers. If anyone interested, hitmeup~
Roxas
You mean, playing? I agree! :D

@Pizzicato: When you don't know a value of an item, just check here! http://dota2prices.com/equipment/
The Whale Blade costs 5-6 keys :)

Btw, I would buy the Alpha Predator set for Nyx... 6€ is a good price for you? ToT
Remco32

ShinseinaTenshi wrote:

*cough* OT from the standard talk we got here atm, anyhow..a question on my behalf that, is anyone interested in q'ing up sometimes together? I'm slightly getting tired of greifers and people who do not understand common sense and the English language in the US/EU servers. If anyone interested, hitmeup~
Sounds fun.
Maybe we should just make a osu! chat channel in the game which we all join?
Icyteru
>why the fuck does immortal item cost similar to the compendium
Pizzicato
holy shit 6 keys
2 uncommon/rare sets \:D/
dNextGen

[AirCoN] wrote:

>why the fuck does immortal item cost similar to the compendium
because people are greedy
Tetsu_old
Holy shit Sylar... :(
Magicphoenix
Sylar says he knows LGD was gonna kick him anyway, that's why he prematurely left the team.
Problem lied within xiao8 in my eyes though. For a few months already, his performance is really nowhere near the lower average
dNextGen

Magicphoenix wrote:

Problem lied within xiao8 in my eyes though
in everyone's eyes*
xsrsbsns
Remco32
There's now an ingame chatroom called 'osu!'
dNextGen

xsrsbsns wrote:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=425909

hahaha jesus i love this guy
dear god,Navi fanboi everywhere,it's a cool interview but the comment section are filled with Navi fanboi going fullforce just because LoH mentioned the fountain hook thing
Wishy
Most people will love Na'Vi until another entertaining-to-watch teams rises up, Alliance is good but they pick always the same thing and never do anything that crazy... at least that's how I feel it.
Pizzicato
Wishy
Just read the LoH interview and OH MY GOD he really is butt-hurt, or is he just being sarcastic? Maybe I misunderstood something but I get the feeling he is kind of regretting leaving the team.

I really like the fact that he calls pretty all teams "trash", which is so true when you think about it. Alliance played with the same heroes for ages, no one really adapted or figured out that banning them = you can beat them (well Puppey did...), Chinese teams are pathetic, etc.

I didn't really watch TI2 so someone give me some insight, how come Asian teams conquered that tournament playing like that?
rzkadi


Dear Loh

it's not just in SC2, its happening in here as well...

Wishy wrote:

Just read the LoH interview and OH MY GOD he really is butt-hurt, or is he just being sarcastic? Maybe I misunderstood something but I get the feeling he is kind of regretting leaving the team.

I really like the fact that he calls pretty all teams "trash", which is so true when you think about it. Alliance played with the same heroes for ages, no one really adapted or figured out that banning them = you can beat them (well Puppey did...), Chinese teams are pathetic, etc.

I didn't really watch TI2 so someone give me some insight, how come Asian teams conquered that tournament playing like that?
chinese teams in TI2 used to be more flawless when its comes to ganking and clash, that's why they conquered the international 2012
dNextGen

Wishy wrote:

Just read the LoH interview and OH MY GOD he really is butt-hurt, or is he just being sarcastic? Maybe I misunderstood something but I get the feeling he is kind of regretting leaving the team.

I really like the fact that he calls pretty all teams "trash", which is so true when you think about it. Alliance played with the same heroes for ages, no one really adapted or figured out that banning them = you can beat them (well Puppey did...), Chinese teams are pathetic, etc.

I didn't really watch TI2 so someone give me some insight, how come Asian teams conquered that tournament playing like that?
he is being sarcastic,read the disclaimer
Tetsu_old

Wishy wrote:

Alliance is good but they pick always the same thing and never do anything that crazy... at least that's how I feel it.
That's not true. Alliance can pick heroes that other teams are afraid of doing that. Like Night Stalker pick for example at TI3, Phantom Assassin + Wisp combo was another good pick they did in their last tournament.

Alliance, Zenith and Orange are teams that you can expect some crazy picks.

P.S. Top interview from LightOfHeaven, great guy. Good to know that he mentioned Vici, the team has great potential.
Top comment.

M: You once said that when you lose you feel happy for your opponent.
LoH: I feel happy about the fact that I see people who are doing something better than me and I have someone to learn from.
Edit: A big lol at some comments at Liquid.
rzkadi
i want to see yaphets/PIS in dota 2 competitive scene so badly
Magicphoenix
Me not. He's mentally a little pampered kid. Left his team that he created after ragequit in a scrim lol
Wishy

rzkadi wrote:

chinese teams in TI2 used to be more flawless when its comes to ganking and clash, that's why they conquered the international 2012
The last games I watched from the Chinese being "the best" was IG vs LGD.int, and tbh even when I got impressed a lot by them back then, now that I saw them play against western teams it was like "oh right, they just know how to play each other since they are both teams that just farm for 100 minutes".

Gonna try to watch some TI2 games anyways, see if I can notice what you said.

Tetsu wrote:

That's not true. Alliance can pick heroes that other teams are afraid of doing that. Like Night Stalker pick for example at TI3, Phantom Assassin + Wisp combo was another good pick they did in their last tournament.

Alliance, Zenith and Orange are teams that you can expect some crazy picks.

Edit: A big lol at some comments at Liquid.
Night Stalker pick was bad, they did not even win by their own plays, Dendi explained on an interview how they had that game in their pocket and they basically gave it away by fighting as 5 on bot T2 during the first night. There are a lot of "good heroes" that are not picked at all, and there is a reason for that, people knows how to defeat them, either that or they are not good enough.

I remember watching Wisp + Mortred on some games, but iirc they were mostly on random tournaments against lower tier teams, so I wouldn't really give them any praise for it, any top team could pick some shit against worse teams and still come ahead. All I say is Alliance isn't that fun to watch because their basic line up is always the exact same thing. Even LoH points out how dumb every team was being that they didn't even try to adapt, you had a top team picking from a pool of 5~9 heroes, which of course are all top tier, why don't you ban those and try to pick based on their picks instead of getting your usual line up + banning random shit they are not gonna use anyways?

Again, just to clarify, not saying Alliance is bad, they are indeed one of the best 3 teams in the world right now (I still feel like watching Orange vs Alliance) but I still find them boring to watch, all they did was find an epic line up that no one adapted to, except for one team that gave away 2 games by themselves.
Tetsu_old
My mistake, I shouldn't have say "was another good pick". You said "they pick always the same thing" that's why I mentioned NS and not if he was good or bad pick.
They have picked Phantom Assassin not on a random tournament (G-1 league) and not against low tier team (Orange) too and she was the best hero in the game. They didn't even picked Wisp to buff Phantom Assassin on that game.

Still I believe that Alliance doesn't pick the same thing (except the heroes for Bulldog) if you compare their picks to other teams and definitely not as boring as the half of the teams that were at TI3.
And before anyone call me an Alliance boy, I would rather watch teams 4 Friends + Chrille or First Departure than Alliance lawl.
dNextGen
i'd rather watch Kaipi

the only team that pick space cow on tourneys
Tetsu_old
Kappaipi is becoming every week more lileable to me with those members changes lol. SingSing should kick EE now and win TI4.
dNextGen
no shit,he'll definitely win TI4 and do this to the traitor Lod[A]

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