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Irreversible
Sakura did you just avoid my words which were saying

You're working together with tiper, and that's why you changed to me?

It was just a perfect situation for you, because the others changed to me as well.
VoidnOwO
:)
Sakura
I know that, I have my reasons for asking.
VoidnOwO
:)
Nyquill
I actually more concerned about how quickly sakura bought completely into the JK claim.

Sakura wrote:

tiper's still in danger with 3 votes on him, considering he's tied with Irre and tiper got to 3 votes first. If anything someone should vote Irre for the sake of saving our JK X_X
Only then after I posted does she echo the reason to unvote.

Sakura wrote:

Well i was thinking about the people not on tiper's b/w, I really wouldn't want to risk lynching a potential PR (and a pretty good one at that).
DakeDekaane
And now Irre is the most suspicious, who will be the next?, sadly your time is reaching its end Irre, what have you to say in your defense?

Sakura wrote:

If anything someone should vote Irre for the sake of saving our JK X_X
I can smell something there :3
But that's right, lynching a PR in D1 would let town in disadvantage, but there's a possibility about fakeclaim, this is interesting~

Whatever, if he's lying or not we'll see until, D3? Assuming there's a doctor. (I doubt it with the Towerhug thing but everything is possible). Also it's curious how some people disappeared, I think I'll wait what tiper have to say, also for Irre (and all missing people), my thoughts about any of you haven't changed btw.

All D1 are like this in the final hours? :c
Sakura
There's very little time until D1 ends, at the time I was posting tiper had 4 votes while Irre had 2, so I knew me switching to Irre would still keep tiper in danger, I freaked out because we could've ended up with the day ending and lynching a PR along with it.
VoidnOwO
:)
fartownik
Sakura's post was not suspicious at all, what are you guys saying? She was just trying to get off the votes from tiper, as she says. I myself don't even know how much time is left for the end of D1 so it's completely reasonable of her. Also if Irre claims another role, I'm still on him.
those

DakeDekaane wrote:

(I doubt it with the Towerhug thing but everything is possible).
Side note: It's hard to imagine a game without doctor because in League there's Kayle, whose ult grants invulnerability.
Hika
There is no way I'll change my vote. I still don't get how you guys didn't have Irre at the top of your lists for scum.
Hika
And there has to be a doctor if JK is a role but I don't think anyone will claim that anytime soon.
fartownik
@mod: votecount
Sakura

fartownik wrote:

@mod: votecount
@Mod: Also time remaining please
Topic Starter
Kanye West
VOTE COUNT:

Irreversible (4) - fartownik, Hika, Sakura, BRBP
tiper (2) - Konei, Irreversible
Konei (1) - Tsukasa
Revenger (1) - those
A little less than 9 hours remain.
Sakura
Oh wow there's still some time.
tiper
Oh god, sorry. I slept. Going to check what did you wrote before posting
Hika
That's very little time. Let's just hope that we can get a few opinions in before then. I'd like to hear mostly from tiper on the vote switching.
Irreversible
eh? what just happened?

any reasons for this?

It's just hilarious how you all focus on us, only because we voted Sakura there~

But yeah, dunno how i can defend me anymore orz Anything i'll say is used against me, so .. xD
ReVeNg3r
Please stop posting so often...i just went off for 2-3 hours and another 2 pages appeared..wtf.
Hika

Irreversible wrote:

It's just hilarious how you all focus on us, only because we voted Sakura there~
I beg to differ.

I actually have a different view from everyone here when it comes down to you because I actually didn't really pay much attention to the whole thing going on with Sakura's bandwagon. I was just looking for reactions everywhere because there was nothing else for me do because if I stayed silent, I would have been on the main topic so here I am expressing my opinion. It seems as if everyone who hasn't voiced their opinion or talked much are targeted as leaning scum or just straight out suspicious.

Anyways, no one wants to sacrifice the PR but it's also likely that it was a possible last minute defense claim, which was basically tiper saying he was JK. As Dake said, it would be a disadvantage to town and I don't think any townie would want to risk that. My vote stays on you mainly because of here and here.

I just wanted to point that out because I don't like being grouped with a bunch with different intentions.
Hika

ReVeNg3r wrote:

Please stop posting so often...i just went off for 2-3 hours and another 2 pages appeared..wtf.
You know, the point of this is to play and post.
Hika
Also Sakura, can I please have your current thoughts on Irre?
tiper
@Sakura: Jarvan, Cataclysm(ultimate).
VoidnOwO
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Sakura
@Hika: Well he's tunneled me pretty hard the whole game ever since I questioned him and voted him because I didn't get a straight answer, which comes to me as odd, why would he be so defensive if he's towny?. also for what i mentioned here I may be misinterpreting, but also I didn't want to provide more insight on it to see if anyone else shared my views on the matter, I was just pointing out at how he said someone who barely posted is scum, but someone who posted a lot is also scum, felt the need to mention this now, considering the day may end with his lynch anyways.

@tiper: Thanks

P-Edit:

@BRBP: That wasn't the reason I asked tho, I have my own reasons for that.
Sakura
Also I gotta say, this is a pretty active game, I'm liking this group =O
VoidnOwO
:)
VoidnOwO
Am I seeing things or did fartownik just delete his post?
fartownik
Yes, because I noticed it was stupid :< But more stupid was deleting it. I will just repost it because I shouldn't have deleted in the first place, sorry for that.

fartownik wrote:

Why does this feel like a scumslip for me? Kanye clearly said that the characters will not have influence on the game itself, with this said his character shouldn't matter at all when picking a PR.
**Champion choice, lore, and spells will have no influence on alignment or role.**
fartownik
I've read in the 'champion choice' line and realized it's only for the player's own picks.
VoidnOwO
:)
Sakura
I deleted both of kingkevin's posts since he isn't allowed to post here

As for kingkevin's question, yeah, in this game editing your own posts or deleting them isn't allowed.
VoidnOwO
:)
Irreversible
@BRBP: You're only voting me because they don't help you with Konei? Okay, that's nearly as silly as what I did with Sakura, can you explain further? And I want your explanation, not this of someone else.
@Sakura: Well, the main problem with your question was, I didn't know how to answer them, I know, i'm kinda bad in argumenting. Why shouldn't I be defensive? No matter what I am, being defensive isn't bad, because you wanna stay a live as well? Same question to you by the way, you got pretty defensive as well, I'm just asking me why i got targeted right now.
@Hika: I did paying attention, as you can see i voted tiper as well, but I said my different FoS'ses, what's so bad having Sakura as FoS? She really got offended by that. And no, this is not bandwagnonig now, i'm just saying how it is.
@Dake: You never vote anyone, why not? Do you want to be in the background? Well it seems like that.. what do you want to say to this?
@Fartownik: You said Sakura's post wasn't suspicious at all. Ehm yeah, why do you think that? Seems like you want to defend her right now.


Questions:

@Sakura: What do you think of fartownik?
@Hika: What do you think about Dake?
@Dake: What do you think about Hika?
@Fartownik: What do you think about BRBP?

It's time that i ask questions as well, I guess.

General question: What's up with this jailbreaker? I don't get that.
Sakura
However kevin if you do have any questions about mafia in general feel free to post them here: t/62209
Sakura
EBWOP: My bad i meant THIS thread: t/57892

For your first question: No, I wasn't defensive, tho I did point out your OMGUS as your defense, i was merely questioning your actions. Probably the only line that could count a bit as defensive was when i said "oh wow i found all 3 scum already" and that wasn't even defensive more like a reflection of my thoughts on the sudden fast b/w.

I've already pointed out my reads on fartownik on my reads post, they haven't changed at all since then since his behavior hasn't changed either.

it's Jailkeeper not Jailbreaker: http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Jailkeeper
Irreversible
This thread is locked xD
VoidnOwO
:)
fartownik

Irreversible wrote:

@Fartownik: You said Sakura's post wasn't suspicious at all. Ehm yeah, why do you think that? Seems like you want to defend her right now.
Because it wasn't. It was obvious for me as well that the votes must be kept away from tiper at that point, that post should not be considered as scumread for Sakura.
those

BRBP wrote:

Am I seeing things or did fartownik just delete his post?
It's also not the first time, iirc. Using forum moderation powers isn't fair in a game based around the forum :<
fartownik
EBWOP: I also understand how you didn't catch it (because you're newbie), but what bothers me is that Nyquill, an experienced player, read it as scum as well.
tiper

those wrote:

It's also not the first time, iirc. Using forum moderation powers isn't fair in a game based around the forum :<
Yup
fartownik

those wrote:

BRBP wrote:

Am I seeing things or did fartownik just delete his post?
It's also not the first time, iirc. Using forum moderation powers isn't fair in a game based around the forum :<
I didn't delete any other posts than that one :f
VoidnOwO
:)
VoidnOwO
:)
Irreversible

BRBP wrote:

Irreversible wrote:

@BRBP: You're only voting me because they don't help you with Konei?
Yes, problem?

-My opinion on Revenger and Dake changed as the D1 progressed, Revenger is just a troll and Dake is a null to me now
-I don't want to vote tiper because he claimed jailer
-Konei's posts have been less scummy now than at the beginning, but I want to vote for him because he was weird at first, and because I believe that anyone can change their behaviour like he did when he had a lot of votes on him.
-I want to vote you because of your scummy behaviour and weird posts, I don't care if you're a newbie or not
-I won't share my opinions about others yet

Is you were me, what would you do? Always ask yourself this before you question what I do.
-You just shared some opinion, although you said you don't want to, well i want to ask you why not.
-yeah, i can understand that, although you're just voting me because the others did
-i never said something that you should threat me differently only because i'm a newb? orz

@Those: Why do you post so less? it would be nice to hear some opinions from you, i'm curious
ReVeNg3r
My focus is on Sakura now , though i can't do much with her :D
i don't know why exactly but something sais in myself that she is scum acting town.Sakura how would you convince me that you town and not just scum-actor?But this is probably stupie question :D .I dont get why irre scum, dont know from him much at all.Also this is probably my last post in D1 so i have to vote?or i can have an unvote?


Off-topic:So tired,today was hard for me and tommorow will be too ,cant think. ;_;
Topic Starter
Kanye West

fartownik wrote:

Why does this feel like a scumslip for me? Kanye clearly said that the characters will not have influence on the game itself, with this said his character shouldn't matter at all when picking a PR.
**Champion choice, lore, and spells may or may not have influence on alignment or role.**
Edited this in OP. When I originally wrote that, I was thinking about only vanilla roles (as obviously champions and spells have no influence on abilities if they don't do anything in the first place), but it also applies to power roles.

To avoid further confusion regarding that line: I knew the setup I wanted, and assigned everyone by RNG, so correlation between champion and role may or may not be random.

Carry on.
VoidnOwO
:)
Irreversible
wtf at i posted something and 300 other posts appeared -.- let me read them quickly xD
VoidnOwO
:)
fartownik

Kanye West wrote:

Edited this in OP. When I originally wrote that, I was thinking about only vanilla roles (as obviously champions and spells have no influence on abilities if they don't do anything in the first place), but it also applies to power roles.

Carry on.
This little slip convinces me more that tiper is saying the truth.
Irreversible
@BRBP: This question:
Well, idk, you seem to be in the background, idk what i would do, maybe just ask some questions?? don't know what you wanna know from me now o.o depends on what you are i suppose..

it's just weird that you vote me for nearly no reason, well of course there are, but only because the others did, with reasons, it doesn't justify your vote

sorry for my crappy english as well btw.
Hika
@Irre: Dake is a null read and I can't say much about him except that he is leaning a little toward town but I'd wish that it was D3 or something so I can analyze a little more.
Irreversible
Btw BRBP back to my question:

Why don't you give us your opinions? Anything to hide? Don't want to reveal something we don't know?
fartownik

Irreversible wrote:

@Fartownik: What do you think about BRBP?
Sorry, didn't notice this question.
BRBP is a null read for me right now, leaning town for hunting the scum.
fartownik
EBWOP: Irre's defense is kinda weird right now. Instead of AtE he tries to push the suspicion on someone else, chaotically, asking everyone around about everyone. I feel more safe with my vote because of this.
tiper
Brb after some hours, because I still don't know what to do. I've changed my opinion about some people, but I don't think that I want to show you my thoughts right now
those
Well, I'm done reading.

Unvote
Vote: Irreversible


For trying desperately to shove mafia role onto Sakura, and I trust Sakura is town for now.
Irreversible
Well I go to sleep now,

sorry for not answering questions anymore orz

I just hope you will think about the others as well, I was asking questions to figure them, because most of you just focus on me right now, instead of thinking of the others. ^ explains it @fartownik

You can also have my thoughts, since if it goes on like this.. yeah

I think Sakura and tiper work together somehow, (because of that vote change)
I'm not sure about BRBP, maybe he just wants to follow the others.
Dake seems to be in the background, can't tell much about him,
Konei: Well he didn't post much anymore, I think he's town
Hika.. is scumhunting obviously
fartownik: Well you're scumhunting too, but i think you could work with sakura and tiper as well, i never saw you writing very much about them, maybe i just missed it
Revenger: uhm.. dunno, he's pretty less posting

yeah that's it xD good night o/
DakeDekaane
Sakura linking a locked post, gg.

Irreversible wrote:

@Dake: You never vote anyone, why not? Do you want to be in the background? Well it seems like that.. what do you want to say to this?
Not in the background, as you can notice, there are many missing people and in previous cases, Konei and tiper were at L-2 or L-1, any of them could easily jump in either wagon and hammer, as wanting to end the day quickly to make their night moves, giving us less time. My vote is still between Konei and tiper now, and maybe you, of course I have my FoS in more people, but it seems everybody want to focus on you guys.

Irreversible wrote:

@Dake: What do you think about Hika?
Null leaning town. Trying to pick everything from Sakura's wagon and reading everyone.

All of us, agree with that at least 1 of the Sakura's wagon is scum. Konei managed to avoid all atention, I really wonder why. tiper made his roleclaim, nobody wants to kill a JK in D1, if he lies we'll discover that soon, and Irre is the one left, I tried to believe he was town in their previous actions, but with all this conmotion, I really don't know.

So Irre, do you think Sakura is trying to push you out as you said she's suspicious? What do you think about the ones voted for you? Do you think there's scum in your wagon?

@tiper: come on, I want to know who I should give my vote, I hope soon.
@those: could you give your opinions about Irreversible? Coming just to say some stuff isn't nice while the day is about to end.
@Mod: Prod Konei?
DakeDekaane
Oh well, those appeared while I was posting, nice to see.
Irreversible
@Dake:

(Okay this will really be my last post i need to go u.u)

That's what i think all the time, but nobody is believing me, they're just too good orz

And yes, i think there is scum in my bandwagoning, read my post above.
VoidnOwO
:)
Lincolm
Yah, sorry, dunno but everyday I like to watch tournament around now. (NaVi vs Dignitas... cool one...)

@Sakura : Your last post about Irreversible? I have Irreversible as probably town, for now, I think it come from paranoid person. He doesn't decide his mind yet, which one better for him to his read. I ever felt this as newbie, I couldn't decide everything that happen in thread, only assuming everyone as town. (well, that's why I have a lot townread rather than scumread)

Following the context to the first quote, he was voting Revenger because Revenger didn't do nothing even he was active. I think Revenger is suspicious in normal view (but not for me as I explained my read, I'm quiet abnormal). Following the context to the second quote, he thought that you might be fake-scumhunting. Oh yes, similiar with his FoS in me also, though it is silly reason. I will explain below.

Defensive isn't a tell. Everyone can play defensive, depends in the situation, his mental, and his experience.

@Irreversible : We want to know everything of course. Because I don't know anything except my role. To gather information, I need to know something, that is what I want. The point that we don't explain ourselves, because no one asked for it. I think it is silly if you're telling all of you reads and opinions to mafias, it makes you're predictable to mafias.

@Fartownik : Basically if town in the middle of lynch, he tried to do his best so town consider everything. Though it can be done as scum to pull out all of the vote from him, but I don't fell this in his post.

=

Yah, sorry my inactivity. Konei is null and Irreversible is town for now. tiper is JK. I think his claim is very convincing. His hero and the ability compared with jailkeeper almost same, I don't think this is a fake-claim. Indeed that there is chance that tiper is fake-claiming as JK, but it means he must fake-claiming his hero and his ability also. Interesting play if this is a fake-claim.

About Sakura's, I think it is normal reaction if someone at L-1 claiming before the deadline, we completely want to protect the PR. Welp, I did that.

I really don't know in where I should put my vote. All of bandwagon ain't deserve to have a vote based on my read.
Konei
Just posting to say that I'm reading.

Well, I was still thinking about Irre as town, but his defending seems strange in a way, indeed.

For now I'll just unvote tiper because of the role claiming.

unvote
VoidnOwO
:)
Raging Bull
ASDFG

So tiper is JK now? Well okay. I still have suspicions on him as a fake claim in order to save himself at the end. And since no one really is going on Konei anymore and day is about to end..


Vote:Irreversible

Unlike Konei, Irre has been acting way more paranoid when everyone else was throwing votes at him. And I like how someone (forgot who sorry) mention how he's doing a lot to try to throw suspicions on everyone else and try to focus on him less.

Revenger has been doing best to play better so I won't suspect him as much anymore.

and damnit those, why do you only post random crap and then just vote.
Lincolm

ReVeNg3r wrote:

@lincolm: What makes you think i am town while others think the opposite?What you don't understand about BRBP ,do you think he is scum/town?What do you think about Sakura being scum while acting like town?Do you think there is a scum on tiper-wagon now?
It is obviously I wrote it also in my post that you asked.

those wrote:

Side note: It's hard to imagine a game without doctor because in League there's Kayle, whose ult grants invulnerability.
Someone should picked Kayle. >:(

ReVeNg3r wrote:

Please stop posting so often...i just went off for 2-3 hours and another 2 pages appeared..wtf.
You're lucky. I went off for a hours and another 5 pages appeared.

=

Don't know about you guys, but this post seems come from town... so...
Irreversible
-.- OP Forum lagging = Post deleted Q_Q

Well, first of all i want to

Unvote

Then I want to ask you guys a question, how would you act if you were me? Now, every one is behind me, the most without any reason (yeah they totally read everything) xD
Of course I try to defend me, but how should I if everything is used against me?

I fighted for voting Sakura, not because you shouldn't vote for me, but because she is the most suspicious for me all the time (and now don't ask why, i explained this 100 times, and for ME it seems like that, its MY opinion), not because i don't like her, I don't even know her. But since everyone is believing the others anyway

Vote: Sakura


I can't do anything else, so yeah.. orz
I think 3 scums are behind me anyway, now i can also understand sakura, but still I wish you would concentrate on others as well:

BTW: Someone wrote i should concentrate on myself? Why please? Should I vote myself?? xD
those
If you turn up town, I'm probably voting Sakura tomorrow. Anyone else agree?
fartownik

Irreversible wrote:

(and now don't ask why, i explained this 100 times, and for ME it seems like that, its MY opinion)
I haven't really get that clear enough (no trolling here), I want the EXACT and definitive reason why you vote Sakura with an explanation of your point of view. You only put things like 'somehow', 'i feel that', 'i know that' etc when trying to convince us on Sakura while giving no real reason to do so. And what that someone said about concentrating about yourself is to think what others would think about what you say.
Irreversible
You say i act defending
Sakura does as well?

Sakura asked me tons of questions, and then she says she isn't suspicious, only because i said she is. Of course she denies to be defensive, what, in my opinion is just not true! Didn't you see how exposed she felt when I still had my FoS on her? It was only a FoS, i never said i vote her again, still she seemed to be really offended by that, and THAT'S why i still think she's scum, .... I don't know how you get it, but that's my opinion about her, she acted very suspicious too, but then you, fartownik, said she didn't (if i got that right)

it's weird, but yeah
Sakura
Idk if you really think I'm scum of you're trying to pull a desperation move atm. So basically i'm scum because I asked lots of questions? which is basically... scumhunting?. The reaction on the FoS it's because it looked odd to me that you still had an FoS on me, so i was questioning why that was.

Why do you feel the need to over-explain everything?
Irreversible
-.- I don't try that.. i really think you are, it's just the way you acted, it made you very scum-like to me

You can see the reason why the FoS is on you over all these pages, i just explained it above

uhm.. i tried to explain it so it's clear ? should i keep things shorter or how should i get that? :x
Sakura
I give up on trying to understand you at this point....
Irreversible
... ¬¬ sorry for what i'm thinking, orz :(
fartownik

Irreversible wrote:

You say i act defending
Sakura does as well?

Sakura asked me tons of questions, and then she says she isn't suspicious, only because i said she is. Of course she denies to be defensive, what, in my opinion is just not true! Didn't you see how exposed she felt when I still had my FoS on her? It was only a FoS, i never said i vote her again, still she seemed to be really offended by that, and THAT'S why i still think she's scum, .... I don't know how you get it, but that's my opinion about her, she acted very suspicious too, but then you, fartownik, said she didn't (if i got that right)

it's weird, but yeah
Please, link me the posts where she's 'exposed'. I will try to analyze it myself.
Sakura
He probably refers to my reactions after this post: p/2309544
Sakura
If not then i don't know which posts he might be referring about.
fartownik
^ if so then this is just stupid. All I see is Sakura answering your doubts, and also there's those who throws troll-like suspicions on her. She's basically asking you why you're pointing at her and you call her 'overdefensive'.

Another reason to lynch Irre is now to check those. If Irre is scum then it's likely that those is scum as well. He says stuff with no explanation at all, pretending to be half-serious most of the times. He did the same in the page Sakura linked, and now he's doing it again when Irre needs support in his chase against Sakura. I know he's risking a lot, but he feels safe as he posts stuff like this all the time.

This is my read on this.
those
Perhaps you've forgotten I want Irreversible lynched.
Sakura
Yeah, and i wouldn't like to think scum is busing D1, but we will know in the following days anyways.
fartownik

those wrote:

Perhaps you've forgotten I want Irreversible lynched.
(scum wifom) That "if you turn town" directed to Irre might've been a try to dig in the confidence of people's votes on him, you had nothing to lose anyways, you could only earn a scum free of votes. Also you still didn't give a reason why you wanna vote Sakura.
Topic Starter
Kanye West
Less than 3 hours remain.
Sakura
Well guess Irre's fate is sealed at this point.
Hika
I'm going to state this once more:

If it turns up at NK that Sakura is the target or no action has been confirmed, I will target her enemies. Because I know there is at least one scum against her, which is from her bandwagon.
tiper
Okay, I'm going to sleep.
See you(I hope so) later, at the D2.
Hika
I just woke up from my nap just so I can watch lynch scene.
Raging Bull
Night! Also those Sakura has been doing a lot of scumhunting and questioning. Why would you say she is scum if irre is town??
tiper

Raging Bull wrote:

Night! Also those Sakura has been doing a lot of scumhunting and questioning. Why would you say she is scum if irre is town??
Deadline is in one hour.
Topic Starter
Kanye West
VOTE COUNT:

Irreversible (6) - fartownik, Hika, Sakura, BRBP, those, Raging Bull
Konei (1) - Tsukasa
Sakura (1) - Irreversible
You all gather in mid lane to decide the fate of Irreversible. His identity is revealed in the fading light of dusk. He is Vayne, the Night Hunter.

"Please, just let me farm! I can kill their entire team for you guys!" He begs and begs but everyone else has none of it.

"You might as well be the enemy!"

"You'll never get me alive! This is my Final Hour!" He pulls out the massive crossbow on his back, tumbles away into the now-growing shadows, and begins firing massive silver bolts into the crowd. A few hit their marks, but most miss as he is immediately overpowered and killed. A message appears on the screen:

"An ally has been slain."

Disheartened, everyone disperses. Somewhere, a selective few are celebrating.


Irreversible (Vayne, Vanilla Townie) - Lynched D1

It is now Night 1. Submit all actions via PM. Deadline is in 24 hours.
Topic Starter
Kanye West
Day 2 will start in approximately 3 hours. Please submit an action via PM if you have not already done so.

Also, a quick reminder before we start day 2: you are not allowed to quote any flavor sent via PM. Paraphrasing is okay, but any direct quote from PM will result in a modkill without warning. If in doubt, ask me via PM if it's okay to post something.
Topic Starter
Kanye West
mod note: ending night phase 45 minutes early because i'm going to be too busy to do it later

As the sun rises, you all go back to mid lane to take a head count. Once you notice there are still fourteen of you left, a small sigh of relief (or disappointment?) ensues. Perhaps this will make up for the innocent killing of Vayne on the previous day.

It is now Day 2. Voting deadline is in 96 hours. It takes 8 votes to hammer.
Tsukasa
Guys. I'll do shit later.

Giving me 15 pages in 2 days... omg.

BRPB: Dammit I told you so. :V
fartownik
tiper, please post your night action.
Sakura
Makes me wonder whether tiper hit right, or scum didnt kill anyone to throw WIFOM, either case first time i see that no one dies.
Tsukasa
Pretty sure he didn't :/
VoidnOwO
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