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Sakura
As mentioned in my other post: p/2309615 was waiting for vote count before placing the vote so:

vote: tiper
for the reasons specified in the linked post.

@Hika: I also think Irre's quite odd, but I think tiper's a better lynch for today.
tiper
@Sakura: Could you explain, why? Imagine, that I was lynched. What will you get if I scum/townsman?
Raging Bull
less WIFOM. And is that AtE? (God damn I had to google)

Again I like to say page 24 :(

When you said you voted Sakura for some information, it works out well. I say it works out well because our attention was mainly on Konei and Konei only. We barely questioned you at the time and I say you felt safe. You could also be scum because you saw the bandwagon on Sakura and probably did something like "Oh hey Sakura might get lynched! She already has two votes! I'll go vote!"
tiper
No, it isn't. Just want to know.
Raging Bull
Also stop posting a lot when I am away. ;w;
Sakura
If scum: Irre's Innocent, mostly because the way you 2 act towards each other, and if you were scum, there's high chance you were trying to place suspicion on him by joining the 3 people against me wagon in such a speedy fashion.

If Town: then my next target will be Irre, due to the fact that he most likely hid behind the confusion caused by Konei and you.

P-Edit: No RB that's not AtE, AtE is more like when people go like "OMFG YOU MORONS IM TOWN WTF ARE YOU DOING" or something like that, he's merely asking why i think he's the better lynch for the day by asking my in advance what I'd do in case of either flip.
Sakura
btw that was an exagerated version to explain what AtE is, but yeah it's something like that (At least from what the people at MS told me)
ReVeNg3r
@RB: but if we assume that sakura is scum then it would be stupid from tiper unless he wants to be less suspected..so if tiper is scum then sakura probably not.
Irreversible
Sakura you seem to be a pretty loner (here) - my current thoughts are:

the other scum might told you to play it like that, so you don't show it directly that you are scum.

Sorry Sakura that i'm aiming you that much, but I really really don't trust you, but i don't know who you're working with - I try to figure out that right now, i'm reading the other posts
Irreversible
Well actually it's pretty weird that you voted tiper, didn't see that orz

nvm to this above -_-
Sakura

Irreversible wrote:

Sorry Sakura that i'm aiming you that much
Also known as tunneling, where no matter what one person says, you see them as scum or scum pretending to be town, in either case they'll always be scum for you.
Irreversible
Idk it's just you're posting that much and it just seems like you're hiding something

-> I wait how it's going on now, then i'll see <-

ask me questions if you like o.e
Sakura
p/2307317

Irreversible wrote:

Do you want to let the others think you're a townie? Well, I don't believe you :/ You also write very rarely.. hm.
p/2309808

Irreversible wrote:

Idk it's just you're posting that much and it just seems like you're hiding something
:roll:
Cyclohexane
I don't think someone's activity is a reliable strategy to figure out their alignment.
Lincolm
By the way, I also watch TI3 everyday, perhaps it's hard to me to post when it's begin. (Today Mouz vs DD, aw... 5 hours and ggwp, Next is Liquid vs Dignitas, I wonder...I'm going to sleep or...This is better than Mouz vs DD...)

Good things just happened. BRBP and Nyquill remembered I wasn't active and Raging Bull remembered Those wasn't active also. Seems this game is going active a lot. Why no one remember Revenger and Mr Color?

Also, I don't like self-meta defense. What are you going to do with that...

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Konei still relaxed when he was pushed by the others. He said he is newbie, but he did reaction test, I don't think that what newbies done. Konei's begin bandwagoning over and over. I don't know, but I don't think this is scum and newbie what really do, but he pings me. But, I should agree with Hika in here.
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Mr Color didn't do anything. Noted.
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Dake probably town. His assumptions and judgment seems come from town.
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Raging Bull questioned a lot, but still, I can't read him. Quiet passive also. Hard to read also.
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I still don't understand what I don't understand about BRBP, or maybe BRBP don't get what I mean. Hard to read. BRBP like to bring enemies around to him. I like his style. Probably he wanted to bring me as his first enemy. I wonder why BRBP wait for me. Seems BRBP open his mind a lot, I wonder why also. Nothing important about that, but seems early defends, probably because he careful a lot with his post.
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Revenger probably town. Revenger just give assumption all over. Nothing important. Seems he don't care anything around. Cool.
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Tsukasa wanted to be asked when did nothing. Also wanted to listing people early. Noted. I don't get what actually Tsukasa post. (Also, Jester isn't bastard game, it still considered normal in bigger game, but this is LoL themed, I don't think there is 3rd party, if there is 3rd party, I picked Baron Nashor from beginning)
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Tiper pushed a lot in Konei. Seems opportunistic. Didn't say a lot. Only push over and over.
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Nyquill the first began to defend Konei. Logically right. Seems Nyquill interested with me, a looot. (I'm not interested with Vicks by the way)
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Sakura is very aggressive. Interesting player (but not near as Thor, sorry). Her reason about her scumread I can accept it, but simple minded, perhaps her style. Her townread... uh...
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I will respond all of posts after I have some sleep and begin my day. I know some of you already asked me a question, but I need to sleep. So, Unvote. I really have no idea where I should vote my vote. Also, please asked me question. I don't think you get what in my mind (especially BRBP :roll:).
Lincolm

Mr Color wrote:

I don't think someone's activity is a reliable strategy to figure out their alignment.
It is a good news if you're scum then. Oh, also myself. :lol:
Sakura
[OffTopic]
Quite interesting that you're comparing me with Thor (are we talking about the same Thor here?) since he was the IC on my first newbie game at MS, he didn't look very aggresive to me tho. (unless you mentioned thor on the "Interesting" rather than "Aggresive" part.
[/OffTopic]

Lincolm: What do you think about my previous post?
tiper
I'm going to sleep right now.
@Mod: votecount please
Irreversible

Sakura wrote:

https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/p/2307317

Irreversible wrote:

Do you want to let the others think you're a townie? Well, I don't believe you :/ You also write very rarely.. hm.
https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/p/2309808

Irreversible wrote:

Idk it's just you're posting that much and it just seems like you're hiding something
:roll:
you suddenly started to write much pls D:
you're really interesting as lincolm said
DakeDekaane

Mr Color wrote:

I don't think someone's activity is a reliable strategy to figure out their alignment.
Indeed, but when they post, it's a bit easier to tell.

first Konei, Revenger and then tiper, it wouldn't surprise me if all change their scum suspect. Let's wait what tiper has to say in his defense, is he in L-2 right?, or a miracle happen like with Konei (hey Konei, you should be careful with your own words, you'd be finishing tying your rope), sadly there's no missing person who would jump here this time.

It's funny how everybody ignore my questions, but well, I think it already makes nothing good with answering them now, as everybody are with the tiper thing right now.
VoidnOwO
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Irreversible
It's funny how it could envolve like that, i mean nobody know anything about the other, but still we're argueing that much about the other, it's weird
Hika

Irreversible wrote:

It's funny how it could envolve like that, i mean nobody know anything about the other, but still we're argueing that much about the other, it's weird
That's pretty much how the game goes, and it's really fun when everyone starts to get lynched and NK'd because the suspense gets really high which makes it even better to just watch from the sidelines.
Topic Starter
Kanye West
VOTE COUNT:

tiper (5) - Nyquill, Konei, Irreversible, Hika, Sakura
Konei (4) - fartownik, tiper, Tsukasa, BRBP
Revenger (1) - those
Cyclohexane
Well, I've played mafia very few times before but pretty much everyone was a complete noob (and that includes me) so I kinda feel left behind by the level of the discussions going on especially for D1
fartownik
Unvote
Vote: tiper

Reason: too many scum-leans in the wagon for Konei along with me. I don't trust neither tiper, Tsukasa nor BRBP. Also said before that I don't really care which one from Sakura wagon should be lynched, but one should. Time for tiper.
ReVeNg3r
@lincolm: What makes you think i am town while others think the opposite?What you don't understand about BRBP ,do you think he is scum/town?What do you think about Sakura being scum while acting like town?Do you think there is a scum on tiper-wagon now?

^Whoever can answer this some questions.
VoidnOwO
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ReVeNg3r

BRBP wrote:

My opinion on Revenger has changed a bit, he isn't my "second vote" anymore.
Why? Because i suspect you a bit?

BRBP wrote:

Well, I'd still rather vote Konei or Irre because they voted for Sakura at the same time. They lied and talk about this game outside of this thread or they're scum daychatting.
Where you get the certainty,how you know?
VoidnOwO
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tiper
Roleclaim: Jailkeeper
Didn't expect that I'll get himself L-1ed. So, I really don't know what to do. I'm going to check ISOs right now. After that I'll leave some thoughts.
Hika

BRBP wrote:

Well, I'd still rather vote Konei or Irre because they voted for Sakura at the same time. They lied and talk about this game outside of this thread or they're scum daychatting.
This is likely but at the same time, not very likely. We will see after the lynch and NK; that's the only way we can find out who to target next. If Sakura gets NK'd or there is no action N1, one of them are scum and my best bet is still on Irre because of my earlier reasons.

Konei is still going to be town to me.

And I am going to sleep for two hours because I have school in the morning. I hope no one hammers on tiper because I'd like to read more about what he has to say about his bandwagon. For sure, there is scum on that bandwagon of his.
Hika
Jailkeeper? wtf
VoidnOwO
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Hika
dude I don't even know what to do right now Unvote
tiper
Unvote: Konei
Will vote with my next post.
fartownik
This is obvious unvote right here.
Unvote: tiper
Vote: Irreversible

Here you go, the 3rd wagoner of Sakura's.
Hika
Vote: Irreversible

My vote is literally staying here. Sorry, you guys can do whatever because I won't be on for the next 5 hours or so.
Hika
Also, I think it's fair to call scum on this after what I said a few pages back.
VoidnOwO
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tiper
Let me some time to think. I'm sure there's at least one scum on my b\w. I'll vote for the most suspicious guy(in my judgment) . With explantions, ofc.
Cyclohexane
@BRBP I do want to play and I do want to post, but only when I deem it necessary. Once again, I should be more talkative later on.

If I were to post more right now I don't think I'd be saying anything worthwhile. Then again even now I haven't really brought up anything solid, have I.
Sakura
Well guess I was wrong about tiper, so imma go after Irre then, based on my assumptions that they may be scum but not scum together:

Vote: Irreversible

tiper's still in danger with 3 votes on him, considering he's tied with Irre and tiper got to 3 votes first. If anything someone should vote Irre for the sake of saving our JK X_X
Nyquill
if you ask me, a Jailkeeper claim is just about as convenient as a Doctor claim on D1.

But whatever, I'm not about to lynch a potential power role first day.

Unvote
fartownik
tiper is not clean at all. He could've just risk-claim a fitting role while he noticed he's gonna be lynched, last defense kinda. As for now it's obvious not to risk lynching a potential PR though, so the votes go for Irre as he was the suspect right after him and Konei, but we can't forget tiper is still a suspect after all.
Irreversible
You know, i'm just wondering why you don't suspect someone else, only because we three voted Sakura at once, woow sorry but really, nobody would be that stupid. .

[quote=Sakura]If anything someone should vote Irre for the sake of saving our JK X_X[/quote]
and you said i agitate the peoples on you (except if i get this wrong, but it seems like you're doing the same to me now, just because you want to defend others)

I was kinda thinking about that you will change to me, in case you're working together with tiper.

@Sakura: What do you think about what I just wrote? I wonder.
Sakura
Well i was thinking about the people not on tiper's b/w, I really wouldn't want to risk lynching a potential PR (and a pretty good one at that).
Sakura
Also just so u know, I rather risk lynching a townie than lynching a PR (tho I still prefer to lynch Mafia but time is running out), tho I still think you have a high chance of flipping scum.
Sakura
Also tiper, there's one more thing I'd like to ask you, If you're essentially claiming JK, could you tell me what LoL character are you and what is your LoL ability that resembles jailing?
VoidnOwO
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Sakura
I'm willing to believe he's allowed to claim a character and it's ability, just not quote the PM, same rules apply on all mafia games but people can still claim (or fakeclaim) roles.
Irreversible
Sakura did you just avoid my words which were saying

You're working together with tiper, and that's why you changed to me?

It was just a perfect situation for you, because the others changed to me as well.
VoidnOwO
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Sakura
I know that, I have my reasons for asking.
VoidnOwO
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Nyquill
I actually more concerned about how quickly sakura bought completely into the JK claim.

Sakura wrote:

tiper's still in danger with 3 votes on him, considering he's tied with Irre and tiper got to 3 votes first. If anything someone should vote Irre for the sake of saving our JK X_X
Only then after I posted does she echo the reason to unvote.

Sakura wrote:

Well i was thinking about the people not on tiper's b/w, I really wouldn't want to risk lynching a potential PR (and a pretty good one at that).
DakeDekaane
And now Irre is the most suspicious, who will be the next?, sadly your time is reaching its end Irre, what have you to say in your defense?

Sakura wrote:

If anything someone should vote Irre for the sake of saving our JK X_X
I can smell something there :3
But that's right, lynching a PR in D1 would let town in disadvantage, but there's a possibility about fakeclaim, this is interesting~

Whatever, if he's lying or not we'll see until, D3? Assuming there's a doctor. (I doubt it with the Towerhug thing but everything is possible). Also it's curious how some people disappeared, I think I'll wait what tiper have to say, also for Irre (and all missing people), my thoughts about any of you haven't changed btw.

All D1 are like this in the final hours? :c
Sakura
There's very little time until D1 ends, at the time I was posting tiper had 4 votes while Irre had 2, so I knew me switching to Irre would still keep tiper in danger, I freaked out because we could've ended up with the day ending and lynching a PR along with it.
VoidnOwO
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fartownik
Sakura's post was not suspicious at all, what are you guys saying? She was just trying to get off the votes from tiper, as she says. I myself don't even know how much time is left for the end of D1 so it's completely reasonable of her. Also if Irre claims another role, I'm still on him.
those

DakeDekaane wrote:

(I doubt it with the Towerhug thing but everything is possible).
Side note: It's hard to imagine a game without doctor because in League there's Kayle, whose ult grants invulnerability.
Hika
There is no way I'll change my vote. I still don't get how you guys didn't have Irre at the top of your lists for scum.
Hika
And there has to be a doctor if JK is a role but I don't think anyone will claim that anytime soon.
fartownik
@mod: votecount
Sakura

fartownik wrote:

@mod: votecount
@Mod: Also time remaining please
Topic Starter
Kanye West
VOTE COUNT:

Irreversible (4) - fartownik, Hika, Sakura, BRBP
tiper (2) - Konei, Irreversible
Konei (1) - Tsukasa
Revenger (1) - those
A little less than 9 hours remain.
Sakura
Oh wow there's still some time.
tiper
Oh god, sorry. I slept. Going to check what did you wrote before posting
Hika
That's very little time. Let's just hope that we can get a few opinions in before then. I'd like to hear mostly from tiper on the vote switching.
Irreversible
eh? what just happened?

any reasons for this?

It's just hilarious how you all focus on us, only because we voted Sakura there~

But yeah, dunno how i can defend me anymore orz Anything i'll say is used against me, so .. xD
ReVeNg3r
Please stop posting so often...i just went off for 2-3 hours and another 2 pages appeared..wtf.
Hika

Irreversible wrote:

It's just hilarious how you all focus on us, only because we voted Sakura there~
I beg to differ.

I actually have a different view from everyone here when it comes down to you because I actually didn't really pay much attention to the whole thing going on with Sakura's bandwagon. I was just looking for reactions everywhere because there was nothing else for me do because if I stayed silent, I would have been on the main topic so here I am expressing my opinion. It seems as if everyone who hasn't voiced their opinion or talked much are targeted as leaning scum or just straight out suspicious.

Anyways, no one wants to sacrifice the PR but it's also likely that it was a possible last minute defense claim, which was basically tiper saying he was JK. As Dake said, it would be a disadvantage to town and I don't think any townie would want to risk that. My vote stays on you mainly because of here and here.

I just wanted to point that out because I don't like being grouped with a bunch with different intentions.
Hika

ReVeNg3r wrote:

Please stop posting so often...i just went off for 2-3 hours and another 2 pages appeared..wtf.
You know, the point of this is to play and post.
Hika
Also Sakura, can I please have your current thoughts on Irre?
tiper
@Sakura: Jarvan, Cataclysm(ultimate).
VoidnOwO
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Sakura
@Hika: Well he's tunneled me pretty hard the whole game ever since I questioned him and voted him because I didn't get a straight answer, which comes to me as odd, why would he be so defensive if he's towny?. also for what i mentioned here I may be misinterpreting, but also I didn't want to provide more insight on it to see if anyone else shared my views on the matter, I was just pointing out at how he said someone who barely posted is scum, but someone who posted a lot is also scum, felt the need to mention this now, considering the day may end with his lynch anyways.

@tiper: Thanks

P-Edit:

@BRBP: That wasn't the reason I asked tho, I have my own reasons for that.
Sakura
Also I gotta say, this is a pretty active game, I'm liking this group =O
VoidnOwO
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VoidnOwO
Am I seeing things or did fartownik just delete his post?
fartownik
Yes, because I noticed it was stupid :< But more stupid was deleting it. I will just repost it because I shouldn't have deleted in the first place, sorry for that.

fartownik wrote:

Why does this feel like a scumslip for me? Kanye clearly said that the characters will not have influence on the game itself, with this said his character shouldn't matter at all when picking a PR.
**Champion choice, lore, and spells will have no influence on alignment or role.**
fartownik
I've read in the 'champion choice' line and realized it's only for the player's own picks.
VoidnOwO
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Sakura
I deleted both of kingkevin's posts since he isn't allowed to post here

As for kingkevin's question, yeah, in this game editing your own posts or deleting them isn't allowed.
VoidnOwO
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Irreversible
@BRBP: You're only voting me because they don't help you with Konei? Okay, that's nearly as silly as what I did with Sakura, can you explain further? And I want your explanation, not this of someone else.
@Sakura: Well, the main problem with your question was, I didn't know how to answer them, I know, i'm kinda bad in argumenting. Why shouldn't I be defensive? No matter what I am, being defensive isn't bad, because you wanna stay a live as well? Same question to you by the way, you got pretty defensive as well, I'm just asking me why i got targeted right now.
@Hika: I did paying attention, as you can see i voted tiper as well, but I said my different FoS'ses, what's so bad having Sakura as FoS? She really got offended by that. And no, this is not bandwagnonig now, i'm just saying how it is.
@Dake: You never vote anyone, why not? Do you want to be in the background? Well it seems like that.. what do you want to say to this?
@Fartownik: You said Sakura's post wasn't suspicious at all. Ehm yeah, why do you think that? Seems like you want to defend her right now.


Questions:

@Sakura: What do you think of fartownik?
@Hika: What do you think about Dake?
@Dake: What do you think about Hika?
@Fartownik: What do you think about BRBP?

It's time that i ask questions as well, I guess.

General question: What's up with this jailbreaker? I don't get that.
Sakura
However kevin if you do have any questions about mafia in general feel free to post them here: t/62209
Sakura
EBWOP: My bad i meant THIS thread: t/57892

For your first question: No, I wasn't defensive, tho I did point out your OMGUS as your defense, i was merely questioning your actions. Probably the only line that could count a bit as defensive was when i said "oh wow i found all 3 scum already" and that wasn't even defensive more like a reflection of my thoughts on the sudden fast b/w.

I've already pointed out my reads on fartownik on my reads post, they haven't changed at all since then since his behavior hasn't changed either.

it's Jailkeeper not Jailbreaker: http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Jailkeeper
Irreversible
This thread is locked xD
VoidnOwO
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fartownik

Irreversible wrote:

@Fartownik: You said Sakura's post wasn't suspicious at all. Ehm yeah, why do you think that? Seems like you want to defend her right now.
Because it wasn't. It was obvious for me as well that the votes must be kept away from tiper at that point, that post should not be considered as scumread for Sakura.
those

BRBP wrote:

Am I seeing things or did fartownik just delete his post?
It's also not the first time, iirc. Using forum moderation powers isn't fair in a game based around the forum :<
fartownik
EBWOP: I also understand how you didn't catch it (because you're newbie), but what bothers me is that Nyquill, an experienced player, read it as scum as well.
tiper

those wrote:

It's also not the first time, iirc. Using forum moderation powers isn't fair in a game based around the forum :<
Yup
fartownik

those wrote:

BRBP wrote:

Am I seeing things or did fartownik just delete his post?
It's also not the first time, iirc. Using forum moderation powers isn't fair in a game based around the forum :<
I didn't delete any other posts than that one :f
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