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Tsukasa
Oh... And @Mod: Can you state number of votes and when the deadline is on every vote count? Makes it much more convenient. Please and thank you

So konei is at L-2, right? Someone confirm me this
VoidnOwO
:)
tiper
Unofficial: Voting deadline in 62 hours.
Tsukasa
Ok.

Vote: Konei
VoidnOwO
:)
ReVeNg3r
Unvote.
Vote: Nyquill
tiper

ReVeNg3r wrote:

Unvote.
Vote: Nyquill
Could you explain?
Tsukasa

ReVeNg3r wrote:

Unvote.
Vote: Nyquill
Quality Voting #sarcasm
VoidnOwO
:)
Tsukasa
Reasons why nyquill?
tiper

Tsukasa wrote:

Reasons why nyquill?

BRBP wrote:

Trolling to make the day last longer...
Tsukasa
And BRBP: Really? Tsukass? B-but only 1 of my friends can call me that ;w;
ReVeNg3r
Since i dont know how to play this game, let me play my own game.
VoidnOwO
:)
Tsukasa
KANYE SERIOUSLY!!! I TOLD YOU NO ;w;

Anyways... So revenger is pretty much vote parking on nyquill?
Konei
unvote
vote Konei
Tsukasa
Uh... What?
VoidnOwO
:)
Tsukasa
No he didn't... Should have said it was edited
Konei
lol, it's not as if you would need any more votes to get me out xD
ReVeNg3r

BRBP wrote:

Can we ban Revenger from future games ;___;?
Why,i upset you? 8-)
VoidnOwO
:)
VoidnOwO
:)
Konei
Besides, if I would have vote me then, it's not as if I couldn't unvote.
Tsukasa
Well whatever... Like konei's not going to get lynched anyways
Konei

Tsukasa wrote:

Well whatever... Like konei's not going to get lynched anyways
yep, this.
VoidnOwO
:)
Tsukasa
Konei do you really not care about this game?
Konei

Tsukasa wrote:

Konei do you really not care about this game?
I do care about this game, that's not the problem.
I just accept the fact I can't get your opinion of me as scum to turn, so yeah,
I tried to make my intentions clear, and I obviously failed, so vote who you'd like to hehe.
Tsukasa
Give me a list of reads. With reasons if possible.

I'll try to depending on your response.

Tip: Even when on the verge of death, don't give up
Sakura
Wow I go to sleep and the ammount of pages seems to have doubled. I've already read them all, will give my thoughts in my next post, just need to find some quotes.
Konei
Well, the most votes on me, if I'm not wrong, were done when I revoked the vote I had on Sakura.
It was seen as "They got me" act, so I had a bunch on votes drawn on me.
I want to explain: I learned from what Sakura wrote in her post, since yeah, I didnt think of
how useless it'd be to leave my vote on her. So I revoked it because of her post.
I'd never have thought that it could end as "they got me" act. My only intention was to test
if Sakura was scum by somehow testing her reaction, but I don't really think she is scum;
but another thing I wanted to see was if someone votes Sakura together with me; Irreversible
and tiper did, Irreversible's vote was kinda because he was mad on her, so I assumed that
tiper either wanted to get attention from him away or he just wanted to get her out because
there is no sense in testing her reaction on being voted if 2 did already vote her.

@tiper: So why would you want to test her reaction on being voted if she was already voted 2 times? It makes no sense.
VoidnOwO
:)
VoidnOwO
:)
Sakura
p/2306409

ReVeNg3r wrote:

Simply, if i don't post ,i won't evoke suspicions against me
Scumslip?, I don't know but this post just rubs me the wrong way. Specially the quoted part.

Vote: ReVeNG3r
Tsukasa
Right I forgot to explain...

List of reads is like something I done. Who's scum, Who's not.

But what you did works to.

So you think sakura is town and Irre and tiper are scum, right?
Raging Bull
Do you guys post often when I'm not here? orz
Sakura

Raging Bull wrote:

Do you guys post often when I'm not here? orz
It tends to happen, tho if you're in danger of being Hammered often people won't hammer until you've had a chance to defend yourself.
Konei

Tsukasa wrote:

Right I forgot to explain...

List of reads is like something I done. Who's scum, Who's not.

But what you did works to.

So you think sakura is town and Irre and tiper are scum, right?
I'm quite not sure about Irre.
I'd say he just voted her for own reasons because she asked him a question and voted him,
but I can't say exactly. But I'm pretty sure tiper is scum because there was like no reason to vote Sakura, Me and Irre did that and
tiper just went with us with the excuse: "wanted to see her reaction" which doesnt make sense if she is voted 2 times.

I think tiper is scum according to this.
Tsukasa

Raging Bull wrote:

Do you guys post often when I'm not here? orz
I was out when these guys gave me a ton of pages.

I'm merely "compensating" until I sleep. And why waste the chance to talk to people who're online today?

Anyways... Bull. Same thing. List of reads and explanations pl0x
Tsukasa
OK I sleep now. You guys should be done with your list by tomorrow, right?
VoidnOwO
:)
ReVeNg3r

Sakura wrote:

Scumslip?, I don't know but this post just rubs me the wrong way. Specially the quoted part.

Vote: ReVeNG3r
...and i posted and everyone jumped at me.

also you continue being confusing because voting me gives just no sense,i am ok with that.
Raging Bull

Sakura wrote:

Wow I go to sleep and the ammount of pages seems to have doubled. I've already read them all, will give my thoughts in my next post, just need to find some quotes.
Yep that is how I felt earlier.

Tsukasa wrote:

Anyways... Bull. Same thing. List of reads and explanations pl0x
Revenger god damn.

Hika/nyquill. Are they even playing?

Mr Color idk. Hasn't really posted anything.

Nothing much on those for me since his last two posts were about roles and not anything game wise. Rest of it were defending his no lynch vote (again with no lynch (._. ) )

Konei, I'm still suspicious of him, but I don't really wanna make the mistake of voting him now and putting him liek L-1 or 2. Voting for Sakura to evoke a reactino was rather weird, and what was more weird was when other two voted for her too and nearly the same time. (well within the same hour since that was the the time I saw) It would be weird for all 3 to be mafia, but I suspect either Konei or tiper.

Irre was just voting probably based on that omgus thing. Though I have little suspicion of him. When everyone started voting for Konei, he was little surprised. Probably scum buddies. And claiming new players can be a way to stay safe~ I did it huehue

Sakura is town in my eyes

fandwerik and rest really not much for me.

Hey I suck at reading anyways \:D/
Raging Bull

ReVeNg3r wrote:

Sakura wrote:

Scumslip?, I don't know but this post just rubs me the wrong way. Specially the quoted part.

Vote: ReVeNG3r
...and i posted and everyone jumped at me.

also you continue being confusing because voting me gives just no sense,i am ok with that.

It's not because you posted. It's because of WHAT you posted.
VoidnOwO
:)
Konei

BRBP wrote:

Raging Bull wrote:

(well within the same hour since that was the the time I saw)
More like the first two posted within 10 minutes and the third followed within another 10 minutes, if I recall correctly.
Idk, all I can say is that I didnt expect anyone to go with me and vote Sakura.
Why voting for her with no reason?
Also, my question on tiper still stands. I know my reason to vote Sakura, Irre did too, but Idk what tiper thought.
Nyquill
Sorry for my human necessity to sleep.

I missed the entire sakura episode, but I'm going to post what I think about that:

First of all, Unvote

On day 1, there are 3 possible reasons why konei would vote sakura at that point in time.

1. She is scum and she wants to lynch a townie.
2. She is town and wants to reaction test her.
3. She is town and wants to lynch scum.

Basically, to me anyone who starts a vote by himself isn't worth voting out D1, since there is a 2/3 chance that he is doing something out of the best interests of town.

Now, from that, I have reason to believe at least ONE person on the konei wagon is scum.

Lets take a look at who has been on it.

Sakura, tiper, revenger, tsukasa, and fartownik.

At this moment: I think Fartownik is town because he has been doing a very good job consistantly explaining himself.
Sakura's reaction to her 3 votes seemed pretty pro-town, so I'm leaving her at that.
Tsukasa is behaving wayyy in meta, but I haven't seen his scum play yet so I can't be absolutely sure, but pro-town for now.

That leaves tiper and revenger.

Now, before I throw my vote again,

Tsukasa wrote:

IN NO PARTICULAR ORDER

Scum:
tiper
Tsukasa, can you elaborate on that please? I might be missing something while reading but if you can sum it up that would be great.
tiper

Konei wrote:

@tiper: So why would you want to test her reaction on being voted if she was already voted 2 times? It makes no sense.
3 votes are better than 2 if you want to cause natural reaction.
Konei

tiper wrote:

Konei wrote:

@tiper: So why would you want to test her reaction on being voted if she was already voted 2 times? It makes no sense.
3 votes are better than 2 if you want to cause natural reaction.
But why would you take the risk on making yourself suspicious?
See? Now are one of the ones that are being thought of scum.

Let me say following; I really belive that Fartownik and Sakura are town.
I think the following two could be scum: revenger, tiper.

You can't consider Irre voting Sakura as scum action since it was omgus, but I still don't understand why Irre keeps asking Sakura.
Well, he didnt post for a while so I'll be waiting for his next post.
tiper
Because I really think that confrontation is a way to get some information at D1, when we don't know anyting about each other. It works, how you'd see.
Konei

tiper wrote:

Because I really think that confrontation is a way to get some information at D1, when we don't know anyting about each other. It works, how you'd see.
So, why do you actually think that I am scum then? If you voted her for the same reason as me, you should be able to understand but now you are just voting me because I unvoted her as I only wanted a reaction. You decided to vote me for that which would mean following: If you unvoted her because she seems like a towny you would have to be voted, am I right?
Raging Bull

tiper wrote:

Because I really think that confrontation is a way to get some information at D1, when we don't know anyting about each other. It works, how you'd see.

It works maybe in your favor because you are scum and we are only going for Konei?
ReVeNg3r

Nyquill wrote:

I have reason to believe at least ONE person on the konei wagon is scum.

Sakura, tiper, revenger, tsukasa, and fartownik.
I have voted you but doesnt matter because i unvote .
Interesting how some people want to focus attention from them.
tiper
@Konei: As I said before, I was going to unvote Sakura when we get a better nomination for scum. And as I said before your reaction looked quite panicky for me. That's why I voted you. Your actions seem to be extremely chaotic.
@Raging Bull: Nope, it works in town's favor. We're discussing, looking for the reaction from others. Don't you think so?
Sakura
Which is why i said that i believe tiper's vote to be a reaction test, more than i'm believing Konei's one. Also does no one notice anything odd from ReVeNg3r's quote i mentioned? Am i on the wrong track?

Anyways here are my reads as of this post:
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Null but slightly scum BRBP: He seems odd, he attacked revenger to no end then votes no one because: p/2306546/

BRBP wrote:

I'll just vote whoever gets the most votes out of the two (konei or revenger) to make sure one of them is lynched...
Either you are fairly sure both of them are scum, or just you don't care which is scumtell for me.
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Town DakeDekaane: Nothing stands out to me, but he asks questions to people to which he appears to be hunting scum, he's on my town pile for the time being.
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Null Hika: Her vote on Tsukasa was RVS, but she leaves her vote on Tsukasa even while out of RVS because:
p/2305856/

Hika wrote:

My vote stays on Tsukasa because I have no leads
If you have no leads, wouldn't that mean you should be unvoting and leaving a vote on no one until you get some leads?
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Null leaning scum Irreversible: All of his posts seem odd and he seems to be pulling the newbie card so much, tho I'm giving him the benefit of doubt for now, still got my FoS on him. At least he's trying to scumhunt now.
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Scum Konei: Votes me without reason and when I confront him about it, he said he was reaction testing me. If he had at least said something other than "Actually" on his post maybe i would believe him, but he never mentioned a reason on his vote, keeps being defensive and over-explains his arguments, and unvotes me when I tell him that he got no results from his reads, why should I be telling him what results he got? Seems to try to puush attention away from himself as we can see in here and here (notice how the 2nd one doesn't even provide a reason either?), and i see nothing much of scumhunting.
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Scum ReVeNg3r: Lurks most of the day, then when finally called out he says he: p/2306409

ReVeNg3r wrote:

Simply, if i don't post ,i won't evoke suspicions against me
What do you have to hide? why dont you want to evoke suspiciions against you?
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Null leaning town Lincolm: Haven't seen much from Lincolm, but he seems to be scumhunting so yeah, town pile for now.
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Null very slightly scum Mr Color: Lack of activity, but in his post: p/2306796

Mr Color wrote:

I'm really unsure about revenger being scum, even if what he said/did sounds really freaking suspiscious. I don't trust him to provide good arguments when accused, even if he's really townie..
What makes you think that? coz a scum could say the same thing amongst themselves to clear away any possible scumslips in the future, pre-emptive defense? maybe.
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Null Nyquill: Not much content, about the only content that we've got from him is his read lists, reasons look fine, tho i'm not sure about metareading Tsukasa, i'd like to see him actually scumhunt a bit before i place him into my town pile.
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Null leaning Town Raging Bull: Pressuring the suspicious ReVeNg3r when finally appeared, asking questions and actively scumhunting, town pile for now.
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Town Tsukasa: Nice summary of your reads, tho i'd like to see explanations, interesting deductions, and asking questions, scumhunting actively except when he was gone for the day, he gets quite lots of townpoints for me, Town pile.
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Town fartownik: Scumhunting, applying pressure, questioning, so far fartownik looks very pro-town to me.
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Null leaning scum those: Lurking, barely any activity on thread, and same playstyle as his scum game, so i'm leaning scum for now.
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Null maybe scum tiper: Quite odd behavior, threw wifom when accused on: p/2305360 and his p/2305446 makes me think like he just called me town to get me on his good side, tho not much content, then jumps on another wagon: p/2305602 better target for him, considering my wagon fell apart Idk, all i've seen him is jump into wagons without giving much reason.
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If i've missed anyone please tell me, also yes, I've got quite a lot of people suspicious in this thread so far, tho only 2 I have a good feeling on.
Konei
At the moment it seems to me as if you would enjoy having attention on me, since I was the first one to unvote
Sakura, that's why her and fartownik voted me and you just joined that, like you did on Sakura.
Konei
@Sakura: I wanted to test your reaction on being voted suddenly, if I explained much my reason (which would be reaction testing) it would be pointless.

Also yeah, I'm newbie so I didn't think about reasoning my votes firstly hehe. Sorry for that.
Cyclohexane
@Sakura I said this because revenger went from being terribly suspiscious to apparently being very avoidant of discussions and not explaining what he is doing. It might look like a scum trying to protect himself, but it could also be a townie trying to not screw up while discussing thus appearing as scum.
I'd make my own list on who's scum and who isn't but I doubt you guys are interested in saying a list with only nulls
Sakura
The thing is that the way you did it, sounded way too oportunistic for me.

And now you're throwing the newbie card?

Sakura
If you wanted to reaction test me, then why did you do it while i was confronting Irre, and not before, or after?
Sakura
Also

@Mod: Vote count please
Konei

Sakura wrote:

The thing is that the way you did it, sounded way too oportunistic for me.

And now you're throwing the newbie card?

I'm not throwing a card lol.
I just give reasons for what I did.
Should I imagine some?
DakeDekaane
I go to sleep, wake up and see the thread increased 7 pages (or more) orz

Nyquill appeared and threw some thoughts, yes.

Revenger come and tried to draw all attention to him, ok. That worked really nice, saving Konei? It's hard to tell if he's town or scum. If town, he's doing nothing good, unless he wants get lynched to watch who are the ones in his wagon. If scum, he's acting as we wouldn't believe someone is stupid enough for reveal scummy playing and think about he's not scum, just a town jester. He just wants to get lynched.

Both unvoted, now I'm missing with the votecount, yay me, but looks like Konei is avoiding the hammer, so lucky.

Unvote: those.

Don't get me wrong, those is like lurking, just comes here to throw some random comment for activity. But the acting from Revenger is not good for town, so yes. Either town or scum, he is somehow saving a potential scum suspect from being lynched. I'm still unsure who should be lynched though.
My vote is between Konei and Revenger, so:
@Konei: You are changing your vote as many times as you get busted about voting for no real reason, just to watch their reactions, what are your reasons about voting tiper, other than being in the same wagon you started? Why not Irre? Why do you think saying you're are a newbie could be helpful for you?
@Revenger: What do you think about Konei? Is he your scum buddy?
Konei

DakeDekaane wrote:

@Konei: You are changing your vote as many times as you get busted about voting for no real reason, just to watch their reactions, what are your reasons about voting tiper, other than being in the same wagon you started? Why not Irre? Why do you think saying you're are a newbie could be helpful for you?
Firstly, the only vote I did for reaction testing was the one on Sakura because I wanted to get some ideas.
I forgot to give it a reason. I told that I dont think it is Irre because he just voted Sakura because of omgus and now is on scum hunting somehow, although he didnt post for a while.
The only reason I said I was newbie was because I forgot to give my votes reasons at first.
Irreversible
Uff. this is very ocnfunsing if you have been sleeping

Still : Vote: ReVeNg3r

Reason?

ReVeNg3r wrote:

because voting me gives just no sense,i am ok with that.
Currently it's this one, why should it be no sense? Except if you feel exposed, then yeah. So you get my vote for now, it can still change though. 'You're okay with that'. Do you want to let the others think you're a townie? Well, I don't believe you :/ You also write very rarely.. hm.
Hika
Unvote

After reading the last several pages, I'm done vote parking. There are obviously scum that are voting for Konei, because I'm so sure Konei is town. Sacrificing scum in D1 isn't the most desirable thing for the 3 person squad. His reasons for doing what he did to Sakura was quite weak but makes me think that perhaps, he slightly doesn't know what he's trying to do.

Revenger, however, is super suspicious and it bothers me because it's just sudden for him to be drawing attention like that. I think I'll have to go with him but I won't vote just yet.
tiper
I'm waiting for votecount.
ReVeNg3r

DakeDekaane wrote:

@Revenger: What do you think about Konei? Is he your scum buddy?
I dont think he is scum, looks like he doesnt really know what to do right now,how to persuade others to unvote him, same as me :) and we arent buddies i think he votes me just because its konei vs revenger match now, and i think 1 on his wagon is scum but on mine as well.
But i dont understand why am i super/extreme/mega suspicious,probably because i said that i will vote someone even if i think he is townie ,and appeared that some guys focused attention on me, thats weird i think..also BRBS seems like going always with majority...i can be wrong
ReVeNg3r
@irreversible: this was meant to sakura only.If you look back on her actions...
tiper
Ok, I'm going to sleep. See you tommorow :>
Topic Starter
Kanye West

Tsukasa wrote:

@Mod: Don't tell me this is a bastard game...
Anything is possible.
I can't guarantee more than one vote count every 24 hours. I woke up an hour ago and the number of pages doubled x.x

Revenger (4) - Konei, Raging Bull, Sakura, Irreversible
Konei (3) - fartownik, tiper, Tsukasa
No vote (3) - those, Mr Color, BRBP
DakeDekaane (1) - Lincolm
Missed a whole page, this should be right now

L-4, approximately 53.5 hours until day end
Konei
What... Nyquill unvoted me, didnt he?
Konei
and it should be Konei (3)
tiper
Oh, I really don't know what to say about Revenger. He looks quite scummy too. But I'm so sleepy. Will think tommorow :>
tiper
@Lincolm: you are still keeping your RV. Why?
fartownik
Okay, back from sleeping. I'm gonna read the ISOs and come back. Just dropping by to say that I don't believe in Revenger being scum. If he was one, his teammates wouldn't let him act so stupid.
VoidnOwO
:)
VoidnOwO
:)
Sakura
Hmm you do have a point there fartownik, specially considering they got daytalk.

Vote: Konei

Back to the other scum then.
tiper

Sakura wrote:

Hmm you do have a point there fartownik, specially considering they got daytalk.

Vote: Konei

Back to the other scum then.
You unvoted revenger, am I right?
Sakura
@tiper: Yes
Konei
hehe, interesting.
fartownik

BRBP wrote:

Konei's and Irreversible's avatars.... lol
Uh, seems like they're 'friends'. I just hope the mafia game stayed in the thread.
fartownik
(unless they have daychat ofc \:D/)
Konei

fartownik wrote:

BRBP wrote:

Konei's and Irreversible's avatars.... lol
Uh, seems like they're 'friends'. I just hope the mafia game stayed in the thread.
Uh no, these avatars were chosen randomly huehue.
Irreversible

fartownik wrote:

BRBP wrote:

Konei's and Irreversible's avatars.... lol
Uh, seems like they're 'friends'. I just hope the mafia game stayed in the thread.
don't worry, i can be friends with someone without destroying the whole game - it wouldn't be fun if we talked about it, so mafia stays mafia and other things stay other things :P

also sakura, why did you suddenly turn back to konei? this is really confusing :( dunno what to believe actually, I think i Unvote but my FoS is on revenger.
Sakura
Because I agree with fartownik that if he's scum his partners wouldn't let him do something so stupid, considering they have daychat, uhh you know how scum works right?
Konei
Hm, if we were partners and if I was scum, what makes you think I'd always be contacting him, or am I understanding this wrong?
fartownik
Question to Konei:
Would you link me your LoL profile? :)
tiper

Sakura wrote:

Because I agree with fartownik that if he's scum his partners wouldn't let him do something so stupid, considering they have daychat, uhh you know how scum works right?
Well... Do you want to say you think, that Revenger isn't a scum?
Konei

fartownik wrote:

Question to Konei:
Would you link me your LoL profile? :)
In game or what? lol I dont understand maybe because I'm tired hehe.
Irreversible
Q__Q this is so confusing

who are we talking about currently? orz
Sakura

tiper wrote:

Sakura wrote:

Because I agree with fartownik that if he's scum his partners wouldn't let him do something so stupid, considering they have daychat, uhh you know how scum works right?
Well... Do you want to say you think, that Revenger isn't a scum?
I would like to think that he is scum, that was quite an awful scumslip imo, but i do believe scum wouldn't be THAT stupid... right?
Konei
Going to get some sleep, dont expect anything from me for that time lol.
VoidnOwO
:)
fartownik

Konei wrote:

fartownik wrote:

Question to Konei:
Would you link me your LoL profile? :)
In game or what? lol I dont understand maybe because I'm tired hehe.
lolking.net profile.
DakeDekaane
Thanks fartownik, I forgot the fact that mafia have daychat in this game, so:
Vote: Konei

I was thinking the probability of bussing, but it seems Revenger has nobody with him, so this probability is near zero.

Though I'd like to read more from Lincolm and those :c

fartownik wrote:

Question to Konei:
Would you link me your LoL profile? :)
How rude.
tiper

Sakura wrote:

I would like to think that he is scum, that was quite an awful scumslip imo, but i do believe scum wouldn't be THAT stupid... right?
Just making sure...
Irreversible
btw sakura, i downloaded this mafiaiso.jar, but i kinda dunno what to do with it, also i lost the thread XD sorry for epic stupidness right now, tired as well
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