Zekira wrote:

Gens wrote:

It feels like a real map.

...what, so every other map here in osu! is fake?

I personally agree with him :/ the vast majority of maps feel like a whole different game than EBA. Like people are just trying to concentrate on difficulty rather than a good map(the word deathstream comes to mind)

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Zekira wrote:

...what, so every other map here in osu! is fake?

iNiS created Ouendan so it would make sense that they also mastered the making of beatmaps; Play one of their maps and you just get the feeling that the beatmap is "real" when compared to most of the beatmaps here in osu!

Being first != being the best.

Were the first to plant wheat the best to plant wheat? Definitely not!

Let's drop that topic.

DSMN is supposed to feel like an Elite Beat Agents level, and it apparently does, and that's what matters.

LuigiHann wrote:

DSMN is supposed to feel like an Elite Beat Agents level, and it apparently does, and that's what matters.

^ This is what I meant, actually...
It's what I expected to see when I registered osu!.

(I didn't wanted to offend anyone, btw. :<)

Now on joystiq too, hurray http://www.joystiq.com/2009/10/02/queen ... great-com/

Congrats guys! So I guess one of my goals can be to implement the storyboard support well enough to support this map on osu! iPhone.

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LuigiHann wrote:

Now on joystiq too, hurray http://www.joystiq.com/2009/10/02/queen ... great-com/

#65 - Meest bekeken (Vandaag)
Most watched (Today)

Yay

A comment on the Kotaku page says that that particular poster was really interested in playing the game, but saw that the list was dominated with J-Pop and left.

Hint, hint.

Behonkiss wrote:

A comment on the Kotaku page says that that particular poster was really interested in playing the game, but saw that the list was dominated with J-Pop and left.

Hint, hint.

We need more mappers that maps songs that attract more people, not maps that only (some of the) osu! members cares about *cough*Hatsune Miku*cough*

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MegaManEXE wrote:

Protip: You can't please everyone.

You can, by making your own damn maps.

appealling to the crowd is wrong and should be punished

MegaManEXE wrote:

So mappers should be mapping songs to appease other people and not songs that they themselves like?

Okay...

Protip: You can't please everyone.

I didn't mean that everyone should stop making maps to songs they like,i meant more like that we need new mappers that like other kinds of music and they map those songs they like......
But getting a map ranked is very hard for a new mapper......

We need less weeaboos. That's the point

No no, we need more non-weeaboos.

Also somebody should tell that commenter that he can sort by genre and choose "rock" to find mostly English rock songs.

sort by awp

Wojjan wrote:

appealling to the crowd is wrong and should be punished

Good luck getting your map modded without the "crowd" on your side. Maps that are popular are popular either by word of mouth (fairly rare, mostly applies to already well-known members of the community) or because modders see a song they like. Not a map, a song.

You can map something that the "crowd" doesn't like, but trust me, it will be an uphill battle to get attention, especially if you're not well-known as a mapper yet.

There isn't any top-down approach to fixing this problem; the best option would be to increase the breadth of interests in the community, as LH noted. Is osu! inherently a "Japanese" game? In some senses, yes (look at the name). But it doesn't have to be all J-Pop, or all Video Game music, or all Rock music.

I think this map was the most fun I have had on Osu!... challenging (at least for me) - and so interactive!
I would really like to see a few more maps of this style - maybe i should set it as a challenge for myself one day...

shadow7412 wrote:

I think this map was the most fun I have had on Osu!... challenging (at least for me) - and so interactive!
I would really like to see a few more maps of this style - maybe i should set it as a challenge for myself one day...

Je t'aime.

(I love you!)

K2J wrote:

You can map something that the "crowd" doesn't like, but trust me, it will be an uphill battle to get attention, especially if you're not well-known as a mapper yet.

That's why I don't map anything. I'm tired of those almost identical beatmaps all the time, but I won't even try to do something different, since I'm pretty sure that even if my hipotetical beatmap is wonderful, creative, intelligent (something I doubt it would be, because...well, I never made one and I don't think I am a beatmapping genius or something like that) anyone will care about it because it's not J-pop or another Miku beatmap.

Anyway, this beatmap is wonderful (the one with Phoenix Wright, of course). One of the few that deserved a 10,0 from me.

MegaManEXE wrote:

So mappers should be mapping songs to appease other people and not songs that they themselves like?

Okay...

Protip: You can't please everyone.

Protip: You may not be able to please everyone, sure, but the fact that so many maps from one select area exist turns off a whole crowd of people from the game.

Nobody's saying to map what you don't like, it's just that the people who like stuff that isn't all that we've seen before usually don't map it enough compared to the excess of anime/Miku maps.

Aeris wrote:

That's why I don't map anything. I'm tired of those almost identical beatmaps all the time, but I won't even try to do something different, since I'm pretty sure that even if my hipotetical beatmap is wonderful, creative, intelligent (something I doubt it would be, because...well, I never made one and I don't think I am a beatmapping genius or something like that) anyone will care about it because it's not J-pop or another Miku beatmap.

What a horrible and stupid attitude.

Well, thanks to the Court-Records, I am now officially hooked on osu!. Is that a good thing? Probably not, but for better or for worse, you're stuck with me.

peppy wrote:

anything peppy says

what a horrible and insulting attitude.

btw grats to m980, luigihann, and others for all the attention they've gained. Well deserved.

To be honest, it upsets me that people turn away from the community just because of the high volume of J-Pop maps. Instead, they should come along and map some non J-Pop songs. Sure, they may have a harder time in the modding process, but it's not impossible and the problem will not be solved if we don't have a lot more of those people bucking up and sticking around.

mtmcl wrote:

To be honest, it upsets me that people turn away from the community just because of the high volume of J-Pop maps. Instead, they should come along and map some non J-Pop songs. Sure, they may have a harder time in the modding process, but it's not impossible and the problem will not be solved if we don't have a lot more of those people bucking up and sticking around.

Agreed
That was what i was trying to say

peppy wrote:

What a horrible and stupid attitude.

What a rude and insulting attitude.

I always respected you a lot for your work, and it looks like you, considered personally, don't deserve the same respect.
So everyone who disagrees with you is stupid? Intolerance is the true stupidity.

mtmcl wrote:

what a horrible and insulting attitude.

You must have walked away with something different than I from what peppy said. My impression was, it is downright silly to fit (or "stereotype", if you will) an entire community into one persona, and allow that gross generalization to prevent you from making any effort to express yourself. i.e. don't be so quick to "give up" just because the odds are not in your favour, etc.

I think you missed the point. Why would you stop in your tracks on submitting a non-jpop map because in your words "noone will care about it"? That doesn't help the problem at all. Why don't you try submitting a map - you might be surprised at the positive response you will get even if it isn't some computeroid singing horribly out-of-tune anime cr... songs.

Well, I said this because I saw some boring beatmaps that were full of stars probably just because they were like the majority, they followed the standard set nowadays in osu! for beatmaps. And others were completely ignored just because they were different. There are people who are trying to revert that trend, that's true, it's there for everyone to see. But to get them ranked they have to wait for the TONS of anime/Miku/Touhou/J-pop stuff to be ranked first, since they have TONS of stars. That's what disencourages me.

I am that kind of person that likes to swim against the stream. It's annoying to see that 80% of the beatmaps are very similar, and even the others almost never run from the obvious. If I started to beatmap, probably I would burn my mind thinking in different things. Different rhythms, mostly, since there are a lot of talented beatmappers in the game that put interesting and creative patterns in their creations, and that's what annoys me most: the outstanding evolution of them in creating interesting patterns doesn't match their choices of songs, that are usually boring and repetitive. You all probably can count using only your hands the beatmaps that are with songs that aren't:

- From asian musicians;
- From english-speaking countries;
- From animes, games and stuff related.

I would like to make experiences...classical music (not remixed versions, you know), for example...why not? We have a world full of different people and countries, hundreds of genres...and we'll be limited just with some of them? I want to clarify that I LOVE anime, but it doesn't mean that I ONLY love anime. Everything has a limit, and play things almost identical everyday seems mine.

But I agree when some of you say I shouldn't give up without try, at least once. So, that's what I'll do. I'll try to map something, and I'll put all my effort doing it. In the worst cenario, at least I could say "I told you!", and that's a line I say very often, one of my favourite ones.

Sorry if I was confuse, I'm at work and there's some crazy guy yelling at me right now.

Aeris wrote:

I would like to make experiences...classical music (not remixed versions, you know), for example...why not?

Because classical music has a tendency to suck timing wise.

adam2046 wrote:

Because classical music has a tendency to suck timing wise.

That was only an example...I could use "mambo" or "samba" in that sentence, I only wanted to say that there are lots of musical genres that are ignored...but yeah, I agree that probably is difficult to map classical music, but there were songs I personally considered unmappable and someone did a good work with them. So...I think it's worth to try, at least. =D

Aeris wrote:

So...I think it's worth to try, at least. =D

Profile wrote:

Ranked Beatmaps... (0)
Pending Beatmaps.. (0)
Graveyarded Beatmaps... (0)

So why aren't you trying?

adam2046 wrote:

So why aren't you trying?

Err...the answer to that question is exactly in the post you quoted first xD

Sooooooooooo why are you still complaining?

adam2046 wrote:

Sooooooooooo why are you still complaining?

*sigh*

AM I complaining?
You quoted me, I answered. And that's all. I'm not complaining.

Wrong place guys. Stop now please.

so how about that don't stop me now map, eh?

Terrible...
In other news http://www.joystiq.com/2007/10/18/free-pc-ouendan-eba-emulator-hits-public-beta/
"Free PC Ouendan/EBA emulator hits public beta" and why was I not told?

adam2046 wrote:

Terrible...
In other news http://www.joystiq.com/2007/10/18/free-pc-ouendan-eba-emulator-hits-public-beta/
"Free PC Ouendan/EBA emulator hits public beta" and why was I not told?

That is actually the article that led me to osu

Looks like VG Cats has a news post for this too.

/me wonders why he still has VGC bookmarked...

osu! meets the slashdot effect :P

We can expect a whole bunch of new people due to this, I think.

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nooodl wrote:

osu! meets the slashdot effect

We can expect a whole bunch of new people due to this, I think.

We've seen bigger surges. I think most of the people who saw/posted this video don't seem to know or understand that it's a real, playable game, so I don't expect as big a surge as when the game itself gets publicity

http://www.halolz.com/2009/10/05/video- ... s-team-up/

found it here, too

I put it on reddit.

osu! meets Cowboy Bepop At His Computer,hogods.
Still pretty dang funny though,and that beatmap deserves the
publicity.

All proof that DSMN is too good.

/v/ seems to like the video.

The sudden fame this map has earned is quite astounding. Is one of the first maps to beat Hare Hare as a successive "top plays" runner at a stage further down the line from when it was initially ranked!

What about "Don't Say Lazy"? Fad or not, people won't stop playing it.

That map is on my list as "only popular because of anime" list (same as Hare Hare Yukai).

peppy wrote:

That map is on my list as "only popular because of anime" list (same as Hare Hare Yukai).

I have never watched that anime before, but I love to play it, because the map was well made (tap tap taptaptap)

Oh, and you choose a great song. It works so well with EBA

Well... thanks to that video making the rounds I managed to find this place and the game somehow.

So it is bringing more people into the fold - even though I totally suck at the game and can barely complete two-star beatmaps as yet.

I loved EBA on my DS so this is a dream come true, fantastic work and I wish I had found it earlier.

In fact I might post news about it on the remakes website that I'm one of the admins on if you like? We mainly do 8-bit and 16-bit stuff on retroremakes.com but this is soooooo much fun I think it should be posted.

Anyway I just wanted to let you know that the word is getting out there to more people even though the person who showed me the video didn't have a link back to this site either - a bit of googling later though and I was here. Hurrah.