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Tree Stump Mafia (Mafia wins!)

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pieguyn
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pieguyn
Rules:

Standard rules apply except for one difference: When you die, you are still allowed to post and speculate based off of available info, but not allowed to reveal any new information you might have been keeping. The name Tree Stump Mafia comes from the tree stump role, but for convenience we'll just follow the above exception instead.

I'd like at least 9 players before starting the game if possible :P

Living Players (1):

6. 0_o - Mafia 2-shot Bus Driver

Replacements:

1. akrolsmir

Dead Players:

2. Rantai - Bomb - Lynched D1
4. NoHItter - Doctor - Nightkilled N1
9. foulcoon - Mafia Roleblocker - Lynched D2
5. Makar - 1-shot Bulletproof Townie - Lynched D3
3. Lincolm - Watcher - Nighjtkilled N3
1. Nyquill - 1-shot Bulletproof Townie - Endgamed
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Nyquill
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Nyquill
snipe
foulcoon
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foulcoon
put me in slot number 9
Rantai
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Rantai
Tree stumps lols. In.
Lincolm
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Lincolm
/in
NoHitter
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NoHitter
/in
Mashley
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Mashley
in
Makar
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Makar
in
0_o
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0_o
Lets see how much I suck at this now.

/in
Mashley
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Mashley
Have to /out sorry
pieguyn
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pieguyn
>< It's been 3 weeks and I still don't have 9 players. Therefore I'll just start the game.

Please /confirm once you receive a role PM. I'll start the game once 5 out of 7 have confirmed.
Nyquill
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Nyquill
/confirm

(Double 360 noscope xoxoxox)
Makar
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Makar
/confirm
foulcoon
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foulcoon
confirmed sirs
0_o
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0_o
hi
DeathxShinigami
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DeathxShinigami
If Foulcoon isn't playing then I'm in
pieguyn
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pieguyn
Sorry, the game already started, but I can add you as a replacement if it's OK ._.//
NoHitter
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NoHitter
Bad timing. I'm in the hospital right now maybe for a week. Requesting replacement.
Lincolm
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Lincolm
/confirm
DeathxShinigami
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DeathxShinigami

pieguy1372 wrote:

Sorry, the game already started, but I can add you as a replacement if it's OK ._.//
Haven't seen Foulcoon confirm yet though ;p
pieguyn
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pieguyn

foulcoon wrote:

confirmed sirs
Anyway, we have 5/7 confirmed, but since NoHItter asked for replacement I won't start it quite yet.
0_o
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0_o

pieguy1372 wrote:

foulcoon wrote:

confirmed sirs
Anyway, we have 5/7 confirmed, but since NoHItter asked for replacement I won't start it quite yet.
...could DxS not replace NoHItter?
pieguyn
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pieguyn
he didn't yet say he would sign up as a replacement, I'm just waiting to be sure o.o//
foulcoon
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foulcoon
vote: DeathxShinigami for not reading the fucking thread
Rantai
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Rantai
Confirm.
pieguyn
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pieguyn
DxS (1) - foulcoon

DeathxShinigami has been lynched. He was...oh wait, it hasn't started yet ._.//
0_o
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0_o

pieguy1372 wrote:

he didn't yet say he would sign up as a replacement, I'm just waiting to be sure o.o//
From his post it seemed to me like he wanted to replace foul.
NoHitter
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NoHitter
I think I'm fine enough to play, but IDk if I'll be as active since I need to catch up to one week's worth of uni.
pieguyn
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OK, let's start then.

Everyone arrived at a rather ominous-looking mansion. After seeing a rather large, ominous black gate and a large wall going all the way around the mansion, and especially after watching the owner of the mansion chain the gate shut after everyone entered, they knew something was wrong. It seems this was not the standard dinner party everyone thought it would be...

Living Players (7):

1. Nyquill
2. Rantai
3. Lincolm
4. NoHItter
5. Makar
6. 0_o
9. foulcoon

It is now Day 1. With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch. The deadline is in 5 days.
Rantai
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Rantai
Treee stumps!
0_o
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0_o
You would think after the last twenty dinner parties in a mysterious mansion gone wrong we would have seen this coming.
Nyquill
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Nyquill
5 Day deadline? Fuck yeah.

Doubting dinner parties omg obvscum!@@$

vote: foulcoon
foulcoon
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foulcoon

Nyquill wrote:

5 Day deadline? Fuck yeah.

Doubting dinner parties omg obvscum!@@$

vote: foulcoon
but i didn't doubt the dinner party

d-doesn't anyone read this thread? :(
Lincolm
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Lincolm
Dunno why we have 5 days for a day. :)

Do we need to prod everybody?
foulcoon
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foulcoon
more days = more information if people actually talked.

more days is a good thing, especially since we haven't had an active mafia game in a long time, and people may have already forgotten about this one lol
Rantai
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Rantai
So, 2 v 5 or 1 v 6?
0_o
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0_o
1v6 sounds too town-sided and 2v5 sounds too mafia-sided.

Though the fact that players can talk after death is pretty beneficial for the town, so that makes me lean in the 2v5 direction.
Rantai
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Rantai
That's what I was thinking too. Though if it really is a 2v5 then we're looking at 1 safe lynch meaning our tree stumps won't be all that useful unless today is full of talk (minus more heads for speculation).

Opinions on a mass claim?
NoHitter
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I think a Follow the Cop strategy would be a good option here.
So yes, I think a massclaim should be fine.
Nyquill
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Nyquill
well my random vote proved completely useless.

Unvote

I'm down for a mass claim, we should all claim within a reasonable time window though.
0_o
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0_o
Massclaims are no fun :(

EDIT: Well I guess if we do have a 2v5 situation then it'll be LyLo tomorrow if we mislynch, so a massclaim WOULD give us a lot more to go on if that happens...

Bleh. Still not fun though.
Rantai
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Rantai
Well it's either that or baseless day 1 voting.
0_o
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0_o

Rantai wrote:

Well it's either that or baseless day 1 voting.
With enough conversation the voting doesn't have to be baseless.

Though seeing as how the thread's gone so far, "enough conversation" is probably too much to ask for.
Lincolm
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Lincolm
Seems we will have baseless voting everyday.
0_o
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0_o

Lincolm wrote:

Seems we will have baseless voting everyday.
You would like that, wouldn't you.
Rantai
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Rantai
So uh where is everyone. Tempted to just random vote if we don't get more talking going.
0_o
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0_o
vote Makar
foulcoon
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foulcoon
Vote: Rantai

anyone else feel like the banter between Rantai and 0_o about massclaiming was sort of scripted?
Nyquill
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foulcoon wrote:

Vote: Rantai

anyone else feel like the banter between Rantai and 0_o about massclaiming was sort of scripted?
Honestly, no not really.

Guys guys a mass claim would generate way more information in a game like this. Even if we don't get a target to vote for we would get an idea of what is going on after night 1 ends.

And fucking prod: makar
Lincolm
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Lincolm

0_o wrote:

You would like that, wouldn't you.
If we don't get any clue

So, start the massclaim? I prefer start it too...
pieguyn
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Makar has been prodded

Votecount:

Makar (1): 0_o
Rantai (1): foulcoon

The deadline is in 30 hours.
Rantai
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Rantai
Well ok. This'll screw me out of any usefulness for my role but what the hey.

Roleclaim: Bomb - when I am killed at night I kill my killer with me.
Makar
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Makar
yooooooooooooooo sup

I posted before the day ended this time :D
faceman scary :<

So mass claim or no? :v Maybe doing it on the first day is best so that we don't leave anybody out?
0_o
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0_o
I don't suppose we could request more time, could we?
pieguyn
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0_o wrote:

I don't suppose we could request more time, could we?
I don't see why not

Day has been extended by 24 hours. The deadline is in 30 hours.
Rantai
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Rantai
I'd say we go ahead with the mass claim because right now we are going no where.
foulcoon
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Rantai wrote:

I'd say we go ahead with the mass claim because right now we are going no where.
still having trouble trusting rantai and 0_o

Rantai pushes for massclaim and claims a role that would explain why he isn't being nightkilled and tries to prevent being voted for, and 0_o was reluctant to massclaim before that. If it is pretty much unanimous I'll claim tomorrow after I wake up.
0_o
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0_o

foulcoon wrote:

Rantai wrote:

Rantai pushes for massclaim and claims a role that would explain why he isn't being nightkilled and tries to prevent being voted for, and 0_o was reluctant to massclaim before that.
I do agree that Rantai's claim is incredibly convenient. It seems a little odd that someone with a role that benefits from the mafia being unaware of their role is this first one to suggest and start a mass claim.

Regarding me though, like I said I was more opposed to massclaiming due to it making the game less interesting than for strategic reasons. At this point it seems like it's the only real viable option since I doubt we're going to make that much progress in the next 24 hours.

So yeah. I'm a 1-shot Bus Driver.

EDIT: Actually, just noticed this:

foulcoon wrote:

still having trouble trusting rantai and 0_o
I don't know if this even means anything, but "having trouble trusting" is really bizarre wording at this stage in the game. You should have trouble trusting everyone right now, shouldn't you? The only ones who really can trust anyone are mafia.

Maybe I'm thinking too much, but I dunno. Just stood out to me somehow.
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Nyquill
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Rantai wrote:

Well ok. This'll screw me out of any usefulness for my role but what the hey.

Roleclaim: Bomb - when I am killed at night I kill my killer with me.
Rantai. You know better than this. If you had honestly gotten bomb as your role you would have claimed something else to draw the nk.
Unless you are scum.

Vote: Rantai
Rantai
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Rantai
And starts the wifom. Even better though, bus me into a night kill and hilarity will ensue on my part.

In seriousness though, it's better not to lie at this stage because if I'm called out on a fakeclaim (role cop, cc etc) then we're going to be very confused. With the potential of only having 1 safe lynch, yeah.
pieguyn
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Votecount:

Rantai (2): foulcoon, Nyquill
Makar (1): 0_o

The deadline is in 9 hours.
0_o
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0_o
So are we actually going to role claim or did I give my role away for nothing?
Rantai
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Mmm 9 hours, still nothing.

If we're going to stay silent then at least do something on the next day. Luckily I can still talk tomorrow so lynching me now is fine (albeit a waste).

I'll throw out my suspicions tomorrow.
Lincolm
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Lincolm

0_o wrote:

So are we actually going to role claim or did I give my role away for nothing?
Well, I saw this as giving away for nothing...

And we still don't have any clue except something suspicious about Rantai

Nyquill wrote:

Rantai. You know better than this. If you had honestly gotten bomb as your role you would have claimed something else to draw the nk.
Unless you are scum.
Maybe he have role higher than this, like Cop or Doctor. He tried to safe himself with scares the mafias. But still... I like what Nyquill said in there...
Rantai
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Rantai
You see the problem here, you guys are latching on to something that is far too easy (Not to bring in the meta but I am not stupid enough to roleclaim bomb as a mafia) and as a result are going to completely waste this day and lynch.

I mean you guys are barely making an effort to do anything at the moment.
Lincolm
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Lincolm
Seems we got extended time again in same day. :lol:
Nyquill
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Rantai wrote:

You see the problem here, you guys are latching on to something that is far too easy (Not to bring in the meta but I am not stupid enough to roleclaim bomb as a mafia) and as a result are going to completely waste this day and lynch.

I mean you guys are barely making an effort to do anything at the moment.
Then what do you suppose we can do? Contribute something new so we have SOMETHING to go on besides the easy option of voting for the easy claim.

Makar wrote:

yooooooooooooooo sup

I posted before the day ended this time :D
faceman scary :<

So mass claim or no? :v Maybe doing it on the first day is best so that we don't leave anybody out?
This is rubbing me terribly wrong right now. Asking a useless question as first post + contributing nothing except "I posted before the day ended".

So same goes to you makar. Contribute something before I change my mind on rantai.
pieguyn
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10 hours late orz

After much arguing everyone decided Rantai had something to do with this, hence they decided Rantai was the first to be lynched. Then they took a second look and found a rather large bomb under Rantai's bed. It appeared to be completely inactive with no obvious way to activate it, and no one would have known how it was activated except for the fact that he had told them earlier. It appears he was telling the truth.

Rantai - Bomb - Lynched D1

It is now Night 1. All players with night actions have 28 hours to send in their actions. (4 extra hours cause I won't be here in 24 hours :P )
pieguyn
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Everyone woke up to find out someone was missing. Then they looked out the window and saw there was a graveyard in the back yard. Most of the spots were empty but they saw Rantai's name written on the first one. Then they saw NoHItter's name written on the second one.

Then everyone noticed two of the fully grown trees around the graveyard had randomly disappeared and saw Rantai and NoHItter randomly standing in the hallway. No one knew how, but that's what happened.

NoHItter - Doctor - Nightkilled N1

It is now Day 2. With 5 alive, it takes 3 to lynch. The deadline is in 120 hours.
NoHitter
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Bah I guess lurking was too out of character for me for people not to be suspicious.
Edit: Yeah sorry about that xD
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Rantai
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Rantai
but not allowed to reveal any new information you might have been keeping.
But I think he'll let it slide~
pieguyn
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haha, I didn't see what he posted, but I'll let it (and the edit too) go XD
Rantai
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31 hours. The 2 dead people are the only 2 who have said anything.

Hmmmmmmm.
NoHitter
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I'd like to know why faceman wasn't killed with his bus driver claim.
A bus driver is potentially a deadly role for mafia to not kill.

Mod: Can a bus driver target himself?
Rantai
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I think they'd be more concerned about a cop to be honest.

Considering no one knew who was what, there wasn't a very big chance that a 1 shot bus driver was going to reverse a kill.
0_o
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0_o
I did not use my bus drive. My PM does not say that I cannot bus drive myself, so I am assuming that I can.

Ok, seeing as it very well could be LyLo, I'm thinking that the rest of the massclaim should happen today.
NoHitter
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^ It should considering we're at Ly-Lo.
Nyquill
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While not absolute definately more than likely we are at lylo right now.

Well then,

Roleclaim: 1-Shot Bulletproof Townie

I realize the problem with me revealing this now is that I could very well get painted for the very same reasons I voted rantai. But I personally think me claiming this now is a much better option considering we are at LYLO and even if we hit mafia today we'll end up with 4p if I end up getting hit so we'll probably end up no-lynching anyways. All in all a better time than rantai (seriously).
Rantai
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In the end, irrelevant because we got our doctor killed. Could have been avoided if we had simply setup a plan on day 1.

Well, better late than never. Except we don't have a second chance.
pieguyn
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NoHitter wrote:

Mod: Can a bus driver target himself?
nope, IMO bus drivers can't self-target unless they're told they can

The deadline is in 75 hours.
0_o
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0_o
Aww, why did you have to ask, NoHItter :( Now the mafia has a guaranteed kill tomorrow if we don't lose today...
Makar
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..We have two bulletproof townies?

Role: 1-shot Bulletproof Townie

bleh I know I'm going to be fos'd because of my inactivity >.>
My opinions don't differ much from what has been said honestly. It's strange how the bus driver was not killed but at the same time it could be on purpose so people become suspicious.
Derp my contribution sucks too.
0_o
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0_o
So wait. So far we have a bomb, a doctor, a bus driver, and two bulletproof townies?

Either someone is lying, or this setup gave hilarious odds against successful nightkills.
NoHitter
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As of now, I think the best choice of action is to lynch one of the two BP townies.
Unless some other suspicious thing shows up in the last two claims.
Rantai
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That might balance out the small numbers but.... with a doctor too? I don't think so.
Lincolm
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Roleclaim : Watcher

Sorry for my inactivity. No denial about this. I got busy for 2 days.

Bulletproof which means cannot be killed by mafia for a time? Maybe because of we lack of number, our mod giving 2 lives (if right time) for 2 people which this same with 4 townies (so we not out of number in this game), so maybe there is 2 mafias in here. Well, just my analyze...

So I assume as 2-4 townies (if right time), 1 doctor, 2 mafia, 1 bomb, and 1 watcherMe (So there is 7-9 lives in here)

Sorry, but this make me FoS : 0_o and Foulcoon, but I really don't understand why our mod gave answer when he was given a question about bus-driver? Seems he is really 1-shot bus-driver. Again, just my analyze...

This analyze is positively wrong if I was wrong to define bulletproof. Maybe only 6 people vs 1 mafias also, so I can't denial this.
Nyquill
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Hi.
Prod: Foulcoon
We need you to claim
foulcoon
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sorry, I kinda forgot about this game :S thanks for the reminder

Roleclaim: Vanilla Townie

so it looks like I'm the only person who isn't "special".

I think 2 bulletproof townies is unlikely, but I don't think mafia would be stupid enough to just both claim the same thing. If we vote off Makar and he turns out mafia, Nyquill could very well be mafia as well. I don't think its smart to vote for Nyquill, at least not before seeing if Makar is legit.

I also think its important to mention that a bus driver with multiple bulletproofs in the game can essentially function as a doctor. What is the likelyhood that there are ACTUALLY 2 bulletproof townies, a bus driver, AND a doctor?
foulcoon
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to add to the above:

i just read that 0_o is only 1-shot bus driver, which makes it seem a bit more likely but still seems a bit too town favored
0_o
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Lincolm wrote:

Bulletproof which means cannot be killed by mafia for a time? Maybe because of we lack of number, our mod giving 2 lives (if right time) for 2 people which this same with 4 townies (so we not out of number in this game), so maybe there is 2 mafias in here. Well, just my analyze...
Having more "lives" really doesn't help us though. Assuming it's 2v5, if the nightkill didn't go through on N1, that leaves us at 2v4, which is still LyLo unless the nightkill failed again the next night. We would end up nolynching Day 2, and end up at the same place we are now, with the sole benefit of having an extra Watcher result, assuming you survived and had successful actions.

Anyway, the rest of my thoughts. The very presence of a bomb makes me fairly confident there are 2 mafia, so I'm going to assume this is the case.

Seeing as Lincolm is the only investigative role claimed, I think it's safe to say that he is most likely town.

This leaves foul, Nyquill and Makar, thus three possible pairs: foul + Nyquill, foul + Makar, and Makar + Nyquill

This means that at least one of the BP townies is lying. Out of the two of them, I find the scenario of Nyquill being mafia while Makar being town to be fairly unlikely, since the odds of Nyquill making up that falseclaim before Makar legitimately claiming the same thing is pretty low.

So eliminating foul + Nyquill as the least possible combo, that leaves foul + Makar and Makar + Nyquill. Thus, I am pretty sure that Makar is mafia.

I know I didn't factor myself into any of the possibilities; I'm just expressing my point of view. Thoughts?
0_o
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0_o
Actually.. Lincolm, who did you watch last night?
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