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Rolled
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tldr:
SFG did not want to claim an aux role to me because she thought I was a wolf. She claimed vanilla, and I proved to her that I knew she was not vanilla.
I brought my suspicion towards SFG to this thread
SFG then claimed Aux PUBLICLY, which was against her original reasoning for not claiming it to me.

SFG had nothing to be worried about claiming Aux in the thread, because wolves are not a threat to her as she is a wolf. The only effect she planned on receiving from claiming Aux is to get some human lynch-votes off of her back.
AceOfArrows
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There's nothing in my PMBox. Suburu, Wombat, one of you needs to PM me and tell me you two talked! I can't start things until someone says there's been a discussion and a decision!!!
Two_old
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Two_old
why don't you freaking make a decision yourself

my god
Yuukari-Banteki
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Two_old
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that was a pretty big waste of time, sfg

his arguments against you were made of steel
Yuukari-Banteki
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Two wrote:

that was a pretty big waste of time, sfg

his arguments against you were made of steel
so you're perfectly willing to kill an aux right on D1. welp, i wish you guys best of luck in defeating the wolves or aliens or whatever the fuck they are.
Two_old
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actually yes, I am

I had already planned to vote for you in the next game immediately after pasonia's game, regardless of what happened. You just talk too much to be worth keeping alive; too risky if you're a wolf. The fact that you have a giant pile of evidence against you is just icing on the cake.
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Two wrote:

I had already planned to vote for you in the next game immediately after pasonia's game, regardless of what happened.
What the fuck.

That's not playing the game.

Two wrote:

You just talk too much to be worth keeping alive
???

So a game full of lurkers is the best strategy? We'll never win that way.

Two wrote:

The fact that you have a giant pile of evidence against you is just icing on the cake.

Two wrote:

his arguments against you were made of steel
I see only one argument against SFG, and it has holes, which have clearly been pointed out by SFG.
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Two_old
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oh cool, strager's an alien too
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diaf 0_o
foulcoon
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Ace is an alien, keel him.
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Two wrote:

I had already planned to vote for you in the next game immediately after pasonia's game, regardless of what happened.
You're voting her because she "talks too much", in other words not because she's likely a wolf/mafia/whatever, but just because you're biased against her for reasons outside the game? W. T. F.

SFG wrote:

There has been holes in your stories left and right and you know it. I will glady fill you in on any you may have missed once the game is over.
Holes that you made, yes. It's called "scumpainting."
Actually, it's called "setting up a straw man" - not quite the same thing imo


(mod: the game hasn't started yet, so I guess it's still ok for me to post? if you think i said too much or if it's just not ok just ask me or a mod to delete this)
adam2046
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Geez guys...
You vote Kuu all the time and were prepared to lynch him "cause he's annoying"
Echo
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that's different

kuu is (no offense) a very inattentive player
sfg is a good player
adam2046
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Good at being a wolf?
I feel it's like "I think it's too dangerous to have her alive this game no matter what." or something
Echo
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All "good" players are good as both town and scum. If you go by that thinking, then by all means kill all the "good" players, then this game can rot like BM1 since there'll only be lurkers left.

Does "lynch [someone] because he is good" even sound remotely right to you?
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adam2046 wrote:

You're not going to change his mind I bet.
Because there's no mind to change.
Mashley
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I've heard a lot from both SFG and Rolled, and I beleive they are both humans, just Rolled likes jumping to conclusions.
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I will probably vote for SFG day 1 too, as everything I've heard about her (mostly what Rolled has shown me) is very suspicious, especially compared to her behavior in previous games. Until SFG brings in some more convincing arguments (and maybe an actual role claim), she is in my opinion the most likely wolf up until now.

Also, the "civilian code" does exist. It's pretty simple actually, so anyone that's a civilian is pretty likely to figure it out.
kuwarudo
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All you guys get pissed when I post

All you guys get pissed when I don't post

God.

There's no way I can please you guys is there
adam2046
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Didn't we already do this gag?
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Rolled
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So if somebody agrees with me they are simply a follower and a sheep.

@Wojjan: As I've said in my original post I have very valid information to back up my claims on SFG. I do not want this information public for reasons that will become clear if in fact I do tell you. I understand I am biased to my own opinions, however I am trying to put myself in others' shoes and I can't honestly understand how nobody is suspicious of SFG's actions that I have pointed out.

Come on, the only thing SFG has to save herself is "don't kill me pls I'm an aux" and "i lost my head being attacked."

...

are you serious?

Well if taking 1:1 is how you would like it, then go ahead. I assure you that one of us is a wolf, and I assure you it is not me.

Also, "holes that I've created" in your story SFG? The most humorous part of all of this is that you have told me to my face and have told other people that you do not think I am a wolf. Yet in this thread you have mentioned my "scumtells" left and right. You are doing the right thing SFG, when you realized that you are going to die D1, you knew the best way to get around it would be turn as many people against my theory as possible. You've done an okay job so far brainwashing a few people everything will become clear when some aux roles come out of the closet.

Oh, one more thing. If we actually have an insomniac in this game this will get one more person to see through your lies (however, actual insomniac please do not claim publicly)

[2009-07-30 21:39:40] <SFG|Rh> okay
[2009-07-30 21:39:46] <SFG|Rh> >_> im the Insomniac
[2009-07-30 21:40:09] <SFG|Rh> yes
[2009-07-30 21:40:17] <SFG|Rh> and why im being hypercautious
Two_old
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Your originally reasoning of claiming vanilla to me via PM is because you didn't want me, who you "thought" is a wolf to kill you off for having an aux.. Now you just confessed to every single player that you have an aux role? I think not.
this is the main thing

claiming to be an aux in public to avoid being lynched=alien or idiot

I think we established that sfg isn't an idiot already

I've actually seen all of her conversations with rolled and she is, without a doubt, 100% alien

I'm also convinced that strager is an alien because of his initial posts+defense of sfg, but he isn't a threat so let's be smart and vote for sfg people
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anonymous_old
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Your attacks aren't enough to encriminate anyone IMO.

EDIT: *strager.
Two_old
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Then you shouldn't need to defend her ^_^

they really need to teach critical thinking in public school
Rolled
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Okay, in your opinion.

Now you are attacking nardi and Two for having an opinion of their own. (they believe my attacks are incriminating enough)

If they are my sheep, then you are SFG's sheep. The only difference is that my sheep are human.
adam2046
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...I know there's a sheep f**ker joke in there somewhere.
Wojjan
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Rolled, can you even consider how little sense you make with your claims? You're voting SFG because she's obviously wolfy. No proof. Then you ramble about your sheep and yourself being human. No proof. Can you at least prove something to us? Anything that makes you human, without doubt? And I'm not talking about the civvy code. It doesn't work the way you think it goes. I could call your bluff, but your zombies will lynch anyone off as long as you provide any half-baked reason. Do tell, is there even proof you talked to SFG in the first place? She was intending to vote you, and now you're making your vote public first, so Oh My God U Suck doesn't work. You just want to lynch of a powerful player and possible aux, with reason claiming aux? As echo said, killing off someone because they are a good player is dumb.
Two_old
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are you selectively blind, Wojjan?

did you miss the part where she claimed to have an aux publicly, when she was against even doing so privately until her head was on the line?
Rolled
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How do you suggest I convince you that I am human (vanilla human at that.)

There is nothing that I personally can do to convince that. You could listen to my conversation so far but that is basically all.

When it comes to the little-sense I am making, I'm not sure if you skipped my post or what.

Let me ask you, what benefit does SFG get for claiming an Aux role PUBLICLY?
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Rolled
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It doesn't really work the same way, as me claiming Civilian would not save any lynch votes I might get. However, SFG claiming aux will most likely get some votes off her. In fact, it's the only thing she really can claim. She knows everybody knows she is not a vanilla, and she would not claim wolf. If she would claim Aux (insomniac, actually) then civilians may not want to vote for her due to the posibility of her having a valuable role. I'm asking you though to see through that lie with the information I've provided and take a wolf out of the game.
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Rolled wrote:

Well if taking 1:1 is how you would like it, then go ahead. I assure you that one of us is a wolf, and I assure you it is not me.
That kills two extremely powerful players who may very well both be human. Just because YOU are convinced that if I'm not one of your powerless civilians that I must be a wolf, doesn't mean that I am convinced that if you're trying to kill aux's on D1 that YOU'RE a wolf. For that matter, "eliminate the powerful players and move on" leads to a game where no one has a brain and the wolves win.
IS THAT REALLY WHAT YOU WANT?

From what I can tell, you're briefly scanning my arguments and then trying to counter them without even reading them. Did you notice that i have EVIDENCE to back my claims, in my posts, whereas you're bluntly stating your same opinions repeatedly? Do you always argue that way, with your teachers or your professors? Didn't think so. You're just planting your ass on your first argument and pretending that it magically supercedes all the holes in itself.

Also, Two, you have a history of voting on gut feelings and stupidity, and if your reasons are trusted here, they aren't even a bandwagon, just a random vote. Please don't join games if you don't intend to play them.
Yuukari-Banteki
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Rolled wrote:

It doesn't really work the same way, as me claiming Civilian would not save any lynch votes I might get. However, SFG claiming aux will most likely get some votes off her. In fact, it's the only thing she really can claim. She knows everybody knows she is not a vanilla, and she would not claim wolf. If she would claim Aux (insomniac, actually) then civilians may not want to vote for her due to the posibility of her having a valuable role. I'm asking you though to see through that lie with the information I've provided and take a wolf out of the game.
I already explained this, please learn how to read.
Two_old
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iirc my gut has been 100% correct so far

don't knock clairvoyance
adam2046
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SFG, do you have proof you are an aux?
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adam2046
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Saturos-fangirl wrote:

Did you notice that i have EVIDENCE to back my claims, in my posts
Rolled
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SFG all I want you to do is answer why you publicly claimed aux in this thread, yet you were wary of claiming it to me in a PM.

Something better than "I lost my head" would be excellent.
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Rolled wrote:

SFG all I want you to do is answer why you publicly claimed aux in this read, yet you were wary of claiming it to me in a PM.

Something better than "I lost my head" would be excellent.
Since you ONCE AGAIN COMPLETELY FAILED TO READ i will c-p the relevent part of that post here and then elaborate

Saturos-fangirl wrote:

et me put it this way, if I claim privately to you and you're a wolf, you have absolutely no reason to share this information and you can kill me out of hand with no one the wiser. I'm following my strategy from Pasonia's WW3 game - every tiny piece of info that I give to someone I don't trust 100%, I make damn sure im consistent across the board (with the exception of doubleclaim, in which case i gave two conflicting sets of information to see which one the wolves acted on and weed out the correct claim). The whole lying = scum thing yknow.
meaning if i tell any person that i dont trust any piece of information, i consider that information to be public on the off-chance that that person might have been a wolf and be using my information.
adam2046
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So...ARE you an aux?
Yuukari-Banteki
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adam2046 wrote:

So...ARE you an aux?
YES
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adam2046 wrote:

K.

And do you remember that time I told you I don't like it when people lie blatantly to my face?
Probably not.

Edit: That was actually a question for you to answer.
Are you 100% set against me too?

I think now I know how kuwarudo feels....or how Pasonia felt in CM1
adam2046
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The question please.
An answer.
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you read my post before AFKing so answer.
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Rolled wrote:

sfg just claim publicly that you are insomniac.

you've already done it behind the scenes. But I'm sure you don't want anybody to hear it straight out of your mouth (fingers lols)
bastard.
yes, i claimed privately to someone i trusted.
obviously i shouldnt have trusted her.
i was still hoping that if i didnt make a fuss out of it the wolves wouldnt notice.
grats, you have now effectively killed me regardless of any votes you could garner.
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I'd be willing to bet that you wouldn't die even if we fail to vote you off the island.

also grats to everyone, page 20 before day 1 even starts ^_^
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Two wrote:

I'd be willing to bet that you wouldn't die even if we fail to vote you off the island.

also grats to everyone, page 20 before day 1 even starts ^_^
youre also willing to vote me off the island for winning last game, before the wolves even have a chance to kill me. invalid argument.
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not for winning, but for being dangerously influential

as evidenced by the people defending you
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Okay, okay. I have a proposition. If we vote out SFG D1 and she is NOT a wolf (or alien... whatever), we get rid of Rolled for he was the first to accuse her. Does that sound good to everyone???
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Alright, now the real insomniac go ahead and drop me a PM.
adam2046
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But Rolled is cute.
Two_old
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that sounds great, except there's no way to prove that she was or wasn't an alien
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oyeah1988 wrote:

Okay, okay. I have a proposition. If we vote out SFG D1 and she is NOT a wolf (or alien... whatever), we get rid of Rolled for he was the first to accuse her. Does that sound good to everyone???
This sounds excellent, assuming people do not believe Strager when he says the coroner claim is actually a wolf.
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adam2046 wrote:

[23:33] <Wojjan> Your role does not come with any restrictions or penalties.
[23:33] <Wojjan> That's what SFG mentioned when stating there shouldn't be a code
[23:34] <adam2046> what do you mean
[23:34] <adam2046> her civ PM?

[23:35] <adam2046> "her civ PM?"
[23:36] <adam2046> was it in her civ PM?
[23:36] <adam2046> hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm?
[23:36] <Wojjan> ...she was able to talk about the civilian role PM without waiting overly long

You and Wojjan have been getting friendly, Wojjan says you're still claiming civ even after claiming aux publicly, I would consider that lying to one of us.
So who are you lying to SFG? Your new friend or everyone in the thread?
Or are you lying to everyone including Wojjan?

I'm just asking cause I don't like the lying to my face thing, k?
oh for crying out loud.....i was talking to Wojjan and claiming civ yes.
I HAD NOT YET PUBLICLY OR PRIVATELY CLAIMED AUX
-.- not even to Rolled
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Wojjan was saying he knew you were lying and that this is part of your strategy.
Which means you're lying to my face. Right?
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adam2046 wrote:

Wojjan was saying he knew you were lying and that this is part of your strategy.
Which means you're lying to my face. Right?
i dont even follow what youre saying here

"Wojjan knew i wasnt a civilian when i was trying to claim civilian, but understood why i would continue to claim civilian, therefore im lying to everyone else by giving up on it later"?
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@Ace of Hearts
can we shorten the duration of day 1 possibly, when it comes around?
adam2046
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Not quite.

I asked Wojjan if you were still claiming civ to him because he was defending your aux claim for reasons I could not see, and he said that you were still claiming civ to him and that this is all part of "the strategy".
So...Is lying to me part of "the strategy?"
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Tode drawing go!

EDIT: OSHIT OSHIT OSHIT I just realised how much she is going to rage when she sees all this.
Lucidity
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I'm voting for SFG when Day 1 comes around for a different reason. "She" has managed to convince this entire community that "she" is female, but everyone knows that are no girls on the internet. Now apply this to a wolf pretending to be Pro-Town and bam. Biggest threat in the game. Ciao.
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Teehee Lucy, us girls have got to stick together right?
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Saturos-fangirl wrote:

Rolled wrote:

sfg just claim publicly that you are insomniac.

you've already done it behind the scenes. But I'm sure you don't want anybody to hear it straight out of your mouth (fingers lols)
bastard.
yes, i claimed privately to someone i trusted.
obviously i shouldnt have trusted her.
i was still hoping that if i didnt make a fuss out of it the wolves wouldnt notice.
grats, you have now effectively killed me regardless of any votes you could garner.

Excuse me? I didn't say a word, just like I promised you I would. How dare you even think to try to impugn on my intregrity without even backing up your facts or even thinking about what you said for at least a second? You told Rolled yourself privately that you were Insomniac; I didn't tell Rolled that because when I make a promise I actually keep it, also because breaking people's trust in you is not usually beneficial in this game.

However bad I am at this game, I know that much, and I'm actually offended you thought so little of me to suspect that I was that involved in Rolled's "cult", as you called it.
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adam2046 wrote:

Teehee Lucy, us girls have got to stick together right?
And even more importantly, we share the same clockwise toilet flushes~
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oyeah1988 wrote:

Okay, okay. I have a proposition. If we vote out SFG D1 and she is NOT a wolf (or alien... whatever), we get rid of Rolled for he was the first to accuse her. Does that sound good to everyone???
No, because roles aren't told upon death. We can only find out one's true role by end game or the coroner, who may or may not be lying or the real coroner.

Rolled wrote:

Alright, now the real insomniac go ahead and drop me a PM.
I really hope that you're joking. This is so blatantly scummy that I can't help but laugh at it. You're rolefishing and just making yourself more and more suspicious. I personally haven't seen you cleared as being innocent, so until then... :p

@SFG (and probably everyone else) ...wat
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Speaking of which, why do other people see Rolled as cleared? Two and his other cronies, speak up?
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I see him as cleared because if he wasn't a civilian then he'd have lied to me, and he wouldn't.
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I am insulted you would think I'd be so dumb as to do that derekku :(

In other words yes it was sarcastic.
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No possible way really.

I know I'm being somewhat cocky and very confident thus far but that is only because well, I am strongly confident. I may have been out of line expecting people to trust me blindly, and as of right now I'm withdrawing the statement I made about expecting people to. I do hope at least people take the claims I made about SFG into consideration, and realize why I am so strongly confident about it.

Honestly for as long as I've played werewolf game I've been telling the truth, and the only thing I can supply you with right now is my promise that I am human and my promise that SFG is a wolf.

I understand a promise does not go very far in this game, but just let it be known that my promise is still offered.

edit:
Rather than constantly referring to a previous post I'll just throw this here. As I've also said previously, this is not the only reasoning I have to believe SFG is a wolf. Maybe perhaps I'll post the logs of SFG and I speaking as well.

Rolled wrote:

tldr:
SFG did not want to claim an aux role to me because she thought I was a wolf. She claimed vanilla, and I proved to her that I knew she was not vanilla.
I brought my suspicion towards SFG to this thread
SFG then claimed Aux PUBLICLY, which was against her original reasoning for not claiming it to me.

SFG had nothing to be worried about claiming Aux in the thread, because wolves are not a threat to her as she is a wolf. The only effect she planned on receiving from claiming Aux is to get some human lynch-votes off of her back.
non-TL;DR:
viewtopic.php?f=52&p=171491#p171491
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Rolled wrote:

I am insulted you would think I'd be so dumb as to do that derekku :(

In other words yes it was sarcastic.
It's hard sometimes to detect sarcasm just from text on a screen XP ilu rolled (blah blah it's a game srs business no hard feelings)

But anyway, I'm still suspicious of you :twisted: (as I am of SFG) I haven't even talked to her yet about this game so I'm not one of her sheep :p
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Two wrote:

I see him as cleared because if he wasn't a civilian then he'd have lied to me, and he wouldn't.
Strong argument. I will trust him too.
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Two_old
you asked why, I answered

you didn't ask for me to argue anything
Rolled
osu! Alumni
1,886 posts
Joined January 2008
Rolled
Also, to A<3 I request that as soon as LadySuburu has confirmed to begin the game. Rabid took far too long to confirm so we can only expect he won't be very active in the game.

And a lot of people really want to get this going :(
Cuddlebun
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Joined August 2008
Cuddlebun
as requested by adam though it's not quite what he asked for

Derekku
COOL DUDE
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Joined March 2009
Derekku
Todes I fucking love you
nardii
271 posts
Here since the beginning
nardii

Todesengal wrote:

as requested by adam though it's not quite what he asked for

:lol:
Yuukari-Banteki
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Joined June 2008
Yuukari-Banteki
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
Cuddlebun
965 posts
Joined August 2008
Cuddlebun
YOU TOLD ROLLED YOU WERE INSOMNIAC. Why would I make that shit up? I didn't even believe it at first but Rolled PMed me like yesterday or the day before saying "SFG's claiming to be insomniac bla bla bla lies she's a wolf" I have no earthly idea WHY you did it after all that "don't tell it's a secret I'm trusting you k", unless you did it all to set me up and make me look like a douche when I did absolutely nothing wrong.

Excuse me, you are lying. I am not the only one you told, you told Rolled in some conversation. I don't know if he logged it, so I can't prove it if he didn't. But if he did, Rolled, I demand you show that log because I know she told you.
Lucidity
132 posts
Joined December 2008
Lucidity
Such needless drama.
Rolled
osu! Alumni
1,886 posts
Joined January 2008
Rolled
SFG you dug your hole go lay in it.

edit: btw, I will be back when day 1 begins.
Yuukari-Banteki
1,534 posts
Joined June 2008
Yuukari-Banteki

Todesengal wrote:

YOU TOLD ROLLED YOU WERE INSOMNIAC. Why would I make that shit up? I didn't even believe it at first but Rolled PMed me like yesterday or the day before saying "SFG's claiming to be insomniac bla bla bla lies she's a wolf" I have no earthly idea WHY you did it after all that "don't tell it's a secret I'm trusting you k", unless you did it all to set me up and make me look like a douche when I did absolutely nothing wrong.

Excuse me, you are lying. I am not the only one you told, you told Rolled in some conversation. I don't know if he logged it, so I can't prove it if he didn't. But if he did, Rolled, I demand you show that log because I know she told you.
I TOLD NO ONE BUT YOU THAT I WAS INSOMNIAC.
I know this for absolute fact and for that matter...even if i *did* tell him that, explain why his quote of me is word-for-word what i said to you. "hypercautious" is NOT a word i use all of the time and its certainly not what i would describe the action of going against what i said i was doing in keeping the details of my aux role secret TO THE FACE OF THE PERSON TRYING TO KILL ME.

I realize how weak my position is in accusing you of this, since i no longer have the chatlogs after Rhesa froze yesterday evening...a fact that anyone who was in #osu and has chatlogs of yesterday at around 5:30PM (GMT-5) can tell you. That meant I lost all chatlogs prior to that.

So yes, Rolled, I demand the log of me "telling you" I was the insomniac because unless you were impersonating Todesengal for some reason, you should have no access to that information.
I want a complete log with timestamps, date if you can, and enough lines to show both members of the conversation. In fact, I would prefer it if you could take a screenshot of your log, since I am fully aware of how easy it is to manipulate quoted lines of text.

I would *love* to see you produce this
Derekku
COOL DUDE
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Joined March 2009
Derekku
/me sits down and eats popcorn

Anyone have one of those foam fingers? X3
Two_old
620 posts
Joined March 2008
Two_old
what would rolled get out of showing you the log? you've already admitted to claiming it multiple times
Cuddlebun
965 posts
Joined August 2008
Cuddlebun
SFG, I can see why you would immediately suspect me of telling Rolled. That doesn't stop me from being insulted that you so quickly thought I was untrustworthy, but I can still see your reason for doing so nonetheless.

I will only state my argument once more; You told me you were Insomniac around 6 or 8 on Thursday, because I remember you going afk for 30 minutes around 5:30 because I had just gotten home from volunteering. I did not even speak to Rolled until about Friday afternoon when I came home because Rolled hadn't been on all night. Or if he was, I didn't see him. But when I did speak to him on Friday, he already knew you were Insomniac. I didn't even have any time to squeal you out if I had been so inclined.

I cannot back any of those statements up because I don't log any conversations I have. I cannot prove what times you spoke to me and what times Rolled spoke to me. But I am telling you, Rolled already knew you were Insomniac, and he told me you had told him in a private conversation. I did not say a word.

Whether you believe me or not is your choice. I'm done with this argument. I'm angry and a little hurt that you continue to believe that I would so callously 'betray' you to Rolled when we had just been discussing if Rolled was really a sneaky sneaky wolf. But whatever.
kuwarudo
287 posts
Joined February 2009
kuwarudo
K guys

This is beating the stuff I'm watching in television

I'll be back with some popcorn.
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