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Metaforce
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Montag, 15. Oktober 2012 at 11:20:20

Artist: Kitsune^2
Title: Firebird
Tags: Renard Hardcore Raggacore Breakcore Chiptune 8-bit Lapfox [luanny_phnyx] luanny phnyx
BPM: 200
Filesize: 2750kb
Play Time: 01:35
Difficulties Available:
  1. Firebird (5 stars, 269 notes)
  2. Firebug (3,29 stars, 91 notes)
  3. Firefly (4,21 stars, 129 notes)
  4. Phoenix (4,9 stars, 349 notes)
Download: Kitsune^2 - Firebird
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Hi.

I'm not the best mapper so help improving my map is very appreciated. :D

Thanks to all modders in advance. :D

Thanks to Autonom, Kyshiro, Encrypto, those, kanye west, Tshemmp, crabovan, _KcN_, [Luanny PhNyx], GamerX4life, Pure Force, Marcin, RikiH_, h-728, akrolsmir, yeahyeahyeahhh, TheVileOne, wmfchris, kratozjc, takonodans, popner and giO- for modding.

[[And also many thanks to [Luanny PhNyx] for adding a taiko diff. :D]]

Taiko removed due to [Luanny PhNyx]'s request.
Autonom
Here we go~

[General]
The resolution isn't right, It should be 1024x768

[Phoenix]
Overall: spacing is not really right. Use a smaller gridsize :) I'm not going to mention too much spacing issues.
00:11:976 (1) - bad slidershape, I recommend using a smaller gridsize for the sliderjoints
00:14:376 (1,2,3,4) - sounds weird, you should use some hitcircles and some slider there, but now all sliders
00:17:376 (7,8) - you shouldn't use the top row of the grid, it makes the objects hide behind the 'hp-bar'
00:22:026 (9) - ^(same as above) I recommend placing it at (X288,Y128)

00:22:176 (10) - I recommend placing this one at (X256,Y32)
00:25:476 (2) - spacing should be farther
00:30:426 (3) - ^
00:56:826 (3,4) - ^
00:59:376 (4) - ^

01:05:676 (1) - return that slider
01:06:876 (3) -^
01:08:826 (3) - spacing


[Firebird]
Overall: too many claps IMO(for example 00:38:376 (5) -)
00:53:976 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - no whistles?

[Firefly]
Claps are placed on weird places. Try to place claps on the 2nd and 4th beat
Use smaller grid size!! Spacing is really bad in some places 01:17:376 (1,2,3,4,5) -


[Firebug]
Again spacing... use a smaller gridsize
00:23:976 (4) - slider end shouldn't touch the other parts of the slider too much

00:27:876 (7,8) - I think it's better if you place them on the 1st and 3rd beat.
00:49:176 (1) - too far above the grid
Topic Starter
Metaforce
Fixing done.

General
The resolution isn't right, It should be 1024x768

Chose a completely new background with the demanded size.

Phoenix
Overall: spacing is not really right. Use a smaller gridsize :) I'm not going to mention too much spacing issues.
00:11:976 (1) - bad slidershape, I recommend using a smaller gridsize for the sliderjoints
00:14:376 (1,2,3,4) - sounds weird, you should use some hitcircles and some slider there, but now all sliders
00:17:376 (7,8) - you shouldn't use the top row of the grid, it makes the objects hide behind the 'hp-bar'
00:22:026 (9) - ^(same as above) I recommend placing it at (X288,Y128)
00:22:176 (10) - I recommend placing this one at (X256,Y32)
00:25:476 (2) - spacing should be farther
00:30:426 (3) - ^
00:56:826 (3,4) - ^
00:59:376 (4) - ^
01:05:676 (1) - return that slider
01:06:876 (3) -^
01:08:826 (3) - spacing

Made the grid smaller, respaced everything, replaced the misplaced hitcircles, fixed most of the smaller issues.

Firebird
Overall: too many claps IMO(for example 00:38:376 (5) -)
00:53:976 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - no whistles?

Made grid smaller, added whistles, removed some claps.

Firefly
Claps are placed on weird places. Try to place claps on the 2nd and 4th beat
Use smaller grid size!! Spacing is really bad in some places 01:17:376 (1,2,3,4,5) -

Smaller grid size, respaced everything; some smaller changes.

Firebug
Again spacing... use a smaller gridsize
00:23:976 (4) - slider end shouldn't touch the other parts of the slider too much
00:27:876 (7,8) - I think it's better if you place them on the 1st and 3rd beat.
00:49:176 (1) - too far above the grid

Smaller grid size, respaced everything, slider fixed; smaller changes.
Thank you for modding~
Topic Starter
Metaforce
Made "Phoenix" a little bit more difficult.

Set Approach Rate to 9, Overall Difficulty to 9 and HP Drain Rate to 8.
Kyshiro
Modded IRC

About general stuff, offset, Note placement, Slider styling, Adding notes, Removing notes.

Since we decided you should remap Firebug first, you may contact me after you've done that and I'll mod that one too :3 (Maybe a full recheck in the future)
Topic Starter
Metaforce
Thank you very much for the modding.

You've been a very great help.

Fixing done.
Autonom
Hi Metaforce, I just noticed that Hardcore is mentioned twice in the tags :S
Topic Starter
Metaforce

Autonom wrote:

Hi Metaforce, I just noticed that Hardcore is mentioned twice in the tags :S
Changed it, thank you. :D
Topic Starter
Metaforce
Added some smaller fixes mentioned by Kyshiro and partly remapped Firebug.
Encrypto
I hereby shall mod this!

[Firebug]

00:23:976: New Combo.
00:26:376: The (8) clips a bit trough the (6). Not entirely bad, but it looks strange.
00:39:276: Maybe move the Spinner a bit to 00:39:576?
00:55:476: Would sound better if (3) and (4) would clap too.
01:26:676: Move (4) down, so it aligns with (3). Also, new Combo?
01:28:776: Same as above with (1) and (6).

[Firefly]

00:33:576: That (5) looks strangely misplaced.

Rest is fine, although it could use more whistles like in Firebug.

[Firebird]

00:53:976: Align (1) with the rest.

A few alignment errors, but I wont point them out here, because they´re not that bad.

[Phoenix]

01:29:976: New Combo.
01:30:276: For some reason I think this stream doesn´t fit right into the song. May be just me though.

It would feel better if you lower the Approach Rate and the Overall Difficulty by 1.



Well then, nice map. Good Luck, buddy. :)
Topic Starter
Metaforce

Encrypto wrote:

I hereby shall mod this!

[Firebug]

00:23:976: New Combo. changed
00:26:376: The (8) clips a bit trough the (6). Not entirely bad, but it looks strange. won't change this, because it would destroy the spacing of the two sliders
00:39:276: Maybe move the Spinner a bit to 00:39:576? changed
00:55:476: Would sound better if (3) and (4) would clap too. changed
01:26:676: Move (4) down, so it aligns with (3). Also, new Combo? changed it another way, I didn't want it to be in a straight line, also new Combo added
01:28:776: Same as above with (1) and (6). same as above

[Firefly]

00:33:576: That (5) looks strangely misplaced. improved it

Rest is fine, although it could use more whistles like in Firebug.

[Firebird]

00:53:976: Align (1) with the rest. changed

A few alignment errors, but I wont point them out here, because they´re not that bad.

[Phoenix]

01:29:976: New Combo. changed
01:30:276: For some reason I think this stream doesn´t fit right into the song. May be just me though. I won't change this

It would feel better if you lower the Approach Rate and the Overall Difficulty by 1. I won't change this, because I think it would be too easy then



Well then, nice map. Good Luck, buddy. :)

ok, thank you for modding and also for the star :D
those
From #modreqs.

[General]
Delete .osb file(s) and full submit if you aren't using a storyboard or the same storyboard across all difficulties.
I think you should set combo colours. A set of four work nicely; try to find colours that work well with the background picture.
Use 80% volume for Kiai time, and 60% for any other. Apply volume changes across all diffs.

[Firebug]
Use tick rate 1.
Consider HP2, AR3, OD2.
00:27:576 (5) - NC
00:46:776 (4) - NC

[Firefly]
-

[Firebird]
00:19:176 (8) - NC
00:33:276 (4) - Stack isn't very intuitive; just map thilike how you have mapped the other similar patterns.
01:34:776 (9) - NC {also, add whistles to this pattern}
01:35:226 (1) - RNC

[Phoenix]
00:25:176 (1) - Spacing is awkward here. Move this or the previous combo further away.
00:44:976 (2) - Try x:248 y:368 for much better spacing.
00:51:576 (5) - NC
01:06:576 - add note.
01:14:376 (1) - End at 01:15:576, move 01:15:576 (1) - to next blue.
01:19:851 (1) - RNC
01:30:126 (1) - RNC

Good luck :3
Topic Starter
Metaforce

those wrote:

From #modreqs.

[General]
Delete .osb file(s) and full submit if you aren't using a storyboard or the same storyboard across all difficulties. done
I think you should set combo colours. A set of four work nicely; try to find colours that work well with the background picture. ok, I set 4 new colors
Use 80% volume for Kiai time, and 60% for any other. changed
Apply volume changes across all diffs. maybe I will add some more volume changes later

[Firebug]
Use tick rate 1. changed
Consider HP2, AR3, OD2. changed
00:27:576 (5) - NC changed
00:46:776 (4) - NC changed

[Firefly]
-

[Firebird]
00:19:176 (8) - NC changed
00:33:276 (4) - Stack isn't very intuitive; just map thilike how you have mapped the other similar patterns. changed
01:34:776 (9) - NC {also, add whistles to this pattern} changed and added
01:35:226 (1) - RNC changed

[Phoenix]
00:25:176 (1) - Spacing is awkward here. Move this or the previous combo further away. changed
00:44:976 (2) - Try x:248 y:368 for much better spacing. changed
00:51:576 (5) - NC changed
01:06:576 - add note. changed
01:14:376 (1) - End at 01:15:576, move 01:15:576 (1) - to next blue. changed
01:19:851 (1) - RNC changed
01:30:126 (1) - RNC changed

Good luck :3
Thank you very much for modding. :D
Kanye West
Hi! First mod! Sorry if it doesn't help :/

~Firebug~

00:28:776 (3) - Whistle here makes it sound more consistent with previous combo
01:26:376 - http://puu.sh/r8LL this placement on timeline sounds better and more consistent with following combo, what you currently have might make sense for harder diffs, but for an easy i think this makes the most sense

~Firefly~

00:32:376 (1) - move 1 grid right
01:17:076 - consider adding a note here, something like http://puu.sh/r91D
01:26:976 (1) - whistle
01:28:776 (1) - whistle

~Firebird~

00:17:976 - Remove NC
00:21:876 (8) - whistle
00:22:176 (9) - ^
00:29:076 (10) - ^
00:29:376 (11) - ^
00:33:276 (4) - this looks unsymmetrical but I don't know how to fix, sry
00:47:826 - I think this looks better than what you have currently http://puu.sh/r98u
01:34:776 (1) - the whistle you have here sounds a little off, I think the one on the end slider is enough
01:35:226 (4) - ^

~Phoenix~

01:07:626 - consider adding a note here for rhythm consistency, something like http://puu.sh/r9fy
01:30:276 (11,12,13,14,15,16,17) - doesn't go with the music, i don't know what to suggest otherwise though :(

I really liked the song and mapset! Good luck getting ranked!
Topic Starter
Metaforce

kanye west wrote:

Hi! First mod! Sorry if it doesn't help :/

~Firebug~

00:28:776 (3) - Whistle here makes it sound more consistent with previous combo changed
01:26:376 - http://puu.sh/r8LL this placement on timeline sounds better and more consistent with following combo, what you currently have might make sense for harder diffs, but for an easy i think this makes the most sense won't change this

~Firefly~

00:32:376 (1) - move 1 grid right changed
01:17:076 - consider adding a note here, something like http://puu.sh/r91D changed
01:26:976 (1) - whistle changed
01:28:776 (1) - whistle changed

~Firebird~

00:17:976 - Remove NC changed
00:21:876 (8) - whistle changed
00:22:176 (9) - ^ changed
00:29:076 (10) - ^ changed
00:29:376 (11) - ^ changed
00:33:276 (4) - this looks unsymmetrical but I don't know how to fix, sry changed, I made it a small jump
00:47:826 - I think this looks better than what you have currently http://puu.sh/r98u changed
01:34:776 (1) - the whistle you have here sounds a little off, I think the one on the end slider is enough changed
01:35:226 (4) - ^ changed

~Phoenix~

01:07:626 - consider adding a note here for rhythm consistency, something like http://puu.sh/r9fy changed
01:30:276 (11,12,13,14,15,16,17) - doesn't go with the music, i don't know what to suggest otherwise though :( I think it's fine, if another modder mentions it, I will change it

I really liked the song and mapset! Good luck getting ranked!
Thank you for modding. Despite your expectations of this mod being not helpful, it is helpful, as every mod. It still helps to improve my map.^^ So again thank you, I changed most of the things you mentioned. :D
Mismagius
/like :D
Tshemmp
Hi, please remember you don't have to follow all of my points, some are personal opinons.

[General]
Delete osb-file and do full submit afterwards.

nice diff names ;D

[Phoenix]
OD 9? I would really decrease it to 8.
Also the HP drain is quite high imo, I prefer 7 but you should take also other opinions into consideration. As a result of this high drain you should add maybe more NCs.

00:15:276 (5) - I would move this to 00:15:576 and put in 2 circles 00:15:276. Don't forget to make the slider 1 repeat shorter.
00:16:776 (6) - NC
00:20:076 (5) - NC?
00:20:376 (7) - change this into a slider?
00:33:576 (8) - change into a slider and delete (9)?
00:33:876 (10) - change into a repeat slider and delete (11,12)?
00:44:826 - add circle
00:47:676 (7) - NC?
00:53:676 (10) - 2 grids down and 2 grids to the right (nice pattern imo)
01:21:726 (1,2,3) - why are they so close to (16)?
01:25:026 (5) - this slider doesn't fit
01:28:776 - personal opinion: this pattern is too rectangular :o
01:30:651 (16,17) - delete

[Firebird]
AR +1 maybe?

00:27:576 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - maybe you should replace some circles with sliders because 200 bpm are really fast
00:31:176 (6) - too many repeats, I suggest mapping some additional sliders instead
00:35:976 (6) - ^ and maybe try this
120,304,35976,2,0,B|104:344|72:344|56:304,4,80,8|0|0|0|8
00:38:076 (4) - turn into a slider
00:38:376 (5) - move to 00:38:676 and make it 2 repeats shorter, add circle 00:38:376
00:39:576 - end the kiai time here (should be the same in all diffs)
00:56:676 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - put some sliders instead of so many circles
01:20:076 (5,6) - Is this spacing intended?
01:26:376 (1,2) - both 1 repeat shorter
01:27:576 (3) - too many repeats imo, map something instead!
01:29:076 (2) - 1 repeat shorter
01:33:576 - some sliders please xD

[Firefly]
AR 5 please (and maybe OD 4)
Apart from that this diff is fine.

[Firebug]
Kiai time should be consistent in all diffs. Move the inheriting section from 00:40:776 to 00:39:576.

00:29:076 (4) - avoid multiple repeats in easy diffs
00:32:976 (5) - ^ and re-shape the slider , atm it looks ugly; maybe try this
192,120,32976,2,2,B|152:80|112:128,4,80
00:41:976 - add circle
00:43:176 - ^
00:49:176 (1) - I am not sure about this double repeat
00:59:976 (3) - this multiple repeat is fine imo because it's the end of a section here
01:16:776 - the following rectangular pattern looks boring imo
01:22:776 (3) - change this double repeat?
01:25:176 - ^

That's it, good luck!

Edit: star
Topic Starter
Metaforce

Tshemmp wrote:

Hi, please remember you don't have to follow all of my points, some are personal opinons.

[General]
Delete osb-file and do full submit afterwards. done

nice diff names ;D thank you :D

[Phoenix]
OD 9? I would really decrease it to 8. changed
Also the HP drain is quite high imo, I prefer 7 but you should take also other opinions into consideration. As a result of this high drain you should add maybe more NCs. HPD changed to 7

00:15:276 (5) - I would move this to 00:15:576 and put in 2 circles 00:15:276. Don't forget to make the slider 1 repeat shorter. changed
00:16:776 (6) - NC changed
00:20:076 (5) - NC? changed
00:20:376 (7) - change this into a slider? won't change this
00:33:576 (8) - change into a slider and delete (9)? won't change this
00:33:876 (10) - change into a repeat slider and delete (11,12)? changed
00:44:826 - add circle changed
00:47:676 (7) - NC? changed
00:53:676 (10) - 2 grids down and 2 grids to the right (nice pattern imo) changed
01:21:726 (1,2,3) - why are they so close to (16)? changed
01:25:026 (5) - this slider doesn't fit changed it
01:28:776 - personal opinion: this pattern is too rectangular :o will keep it that way
01:30:651 (16,17) - delete changed

[Firebird]
AR +1 maybe? changed

00:27:576 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - maybe you should replace some circles with sliders because 200 bpm are really fast I will keep it that way to increase the difficulty a bit
00:31:176 (6) - too many repeats, I suggest mapping some additional sliders instead changed it into 2 sliders
00:35:976 (6) - ^ and maybe try this changed it into 2 sliders
120,304,35976,2,0,B|104:344|72:344|56:304,4,80,8|0|0|0|8

00:38:076 (4) - turn into a slider changed
00:38:376 (5) - move to 00:38:676 and make it 2 repeats shorter, add circle 00:38:376 changed
00:39:576 - end the kiai time here (should be the same in all diffs) changed
00:56:676 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - put some sliders instead of so many circles changed
01:20:076 (5,6) - Is this spacing intended? dunno anymore, just changed it
01:26:376 (1,2) - both 1 repeat shorter changed
01:27:576 (3) - too many repeats imo, map something instead! changed it, added a jump
01:29:076 (2) - 1 repeat shorter changed
01:33:576 - some sliders please xD added two sliders

[Firefly]
AR 5 please (and maybe OD 4) changed AR, OD is already 4
Apart from that this diff is fine.

[Firebug]
Kiai time should be consistent in all diffs. Move the inheriting section from 00:40:776 to 00:39:576. changed

00:29:076 (4) - avoid multiple repeats in easy diffs don't know how to change it here
00:32:976 (5) - ^ and re-shape the slider , atm it looks ugly; maybe try this
192,120,32976,2,2,B|152:80|112:128,4,80
00:41:976 - add circle changed
00:43:176 - ^ changed
00:49:176 (1) - I am not sure about this double repeat I'll keep it that way
00:59:976 (3) - this multiple repeat is fine imo because it's the end of a section here
01:16:776 - the following rectangular pattern looks boring imo changed it
01:22:776 (3) - change this double repeat? I'll keep it that way
01:25:176 - ^ I'll keep it that way

That's it, good luck!
Thank you very much for your mod. :D
And also thank you very much for the star. :D :D
crabovan
Hello. Your map is awesome. ^_^ It should be ranked!

Phoenix

00:17:976 (6) - delete clap
00:18:576 (1) - add clap in start
00:24:576 (11) - delete whistle
00:36:276 (6) - add whistle
00:38:226 (8) - delete clap
00:55:476 (9,10) - add clap
01:10:176 (10) - add clap

Firebird

00:25:476 (2) - add clap
00:26:076 (5) - add clap
00:27:576 (1) - it`s a little crooked http://puu.sh/rXEx
00:59:076 (3,5) - add clap
01:23:676 (9) - add finish
01:23:976 (1,2,3) - maybe better do something like this? http://puu.sh/rXDq
01:25:176 (1,2,3) - ^
01:32:676 (8) - add clap

F6 Point 01:16:776 - maybe better do samples sound 90%?

Firefly

00:34:776 (1) - delete whistle in the end
00:37:776 (2,4) - add whistle
00:38:376 (3) - add clap
01:29:976 (5) - delete clap in the middle and put there whistle

Firebug

00:37:176 (1) - it`s a little crooked http://puu.sh/rXPh
01:19:176 (1) - ^ (before http://puu.sh/rXQ1 , after http://puu.sh/rXQ8)

Good luck~
Topic Starter
Metaforce

crabovan wrote:

Hello. Your map is awesome. ^_^ It should be ranked!

Phoenix

00:17:976 (6) - delete clap changed
00:18:576 (1) - add clap in start changed
00:24:576 (11) - delete whistle changed
00:36:276 (6) - add whistle changed
00:38:226 (8) - delete clap changed
00:55:476 (9,10) - add clap changed
01:10:176 (10) - add clap changed

Firebird

00:25:476 (2) - add clap changed
00:26:076 (5) - add clap changed
00:27:576 (1) - it`s a little crooked http://puu.sh/rXEx changed
00:59:076 (3,5) - add clap changed
01:23:676 (9) - add finish changed
01:23:976 (1,2,3) - maybe better do something like this? http://puu.sh/rXDq changed
01:25:176 (1,2,3) - ^ changed
01:32:676 (8) - add clap changed

F6 Point 01:16:776 - maybe better do samples sound 90%? changed

Firefly

00:34:776 (1) - delete whistle in the end changed
00:37:776 (2,4) - add whistle changed
00:38:376 (3) - add clap changed
01:29:976 (5) - delete clap in the middle and put there whistle changed

Firebug

00:37:176 (1) - it`s a little crooked http://puu.sh/rXPh changed
01:19:176 (1) - ^ (before http://puu.sh/rXQ1 , after http://puu.sh/rXQ8) changed

Good luck~
Thank you very much for your mod. :D
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