All spinners must be able to achieve at least a 2000 bonus from autoplay. Any less than this and players will not be able to react in enough time to fully complete the spinner (and thus getting a 100 or breaking their combo).Since the Auto
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auto doesn't spin slower than before, as far as I know?
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it spin slower than when the "at least 2000" was added actually (time and time ago)
But why would it spin slower? That doesn't make much sense.
Either way, the 2000 spin limit has worked very well, and lowering it to 1000 would be very troublesome. I'd even consider 2000 being a little low, since people often manage to get inside the limit just barely.
Either way, the 2000 spin limit has worked very well, and lowering it to 1000 would be very troublesome. I'd even consider 2000 being a little low, since people often manage to get inside the limit just barely.
And the silly maps with spinners which auto gets a 100 in are amusing 
Bear in mind that Auto accelerates to the maximum possible spins of 477 within a fraction of a second, hence it being pretty much the maximum possible. saying "2000" is like "people gotta spin 400 really quick for this", 1000 is "HOPE YOU DON'T MIND SHAKING THE TABLE".
If anything I'd want the minimum increased to 3-4000.
If anything I'd want the minimum increased to 3-4000.
I've never found the issue to be short spinners as much as having things immediately after short spinners.
Spinners gotten slower? I don't really see that happening honestly. What can also affect the spinner completion rate (and bonus) is the difficulty settings of the OD. A short spinner with a higher OD level wouldn't mix too well.
Spinners become unreadable if objects located after the spinner completes can be seen onscreen before the spinner starts. There was this one James map shortly before the auto2000 rule was introduced which abused this fact terribly. (I would have a hard time digging it up.)
If we lower the restriction, we would need to introduce special cases for things like this. In my experience, lengthening the rules leads to mass outcry, even if the new rules are, in fact, more conservative.
If we lower the restriction, we would need to introduce special cases for things like this. In my experience, lengthening the rules leads to mass outcry, even if the new rules are, in fact, more conservative.
Rena-chan
This ?mm201 wrote:
Spinners become unreadable if objects located after the spinner completes can be seen onscreen before the spinner starts. There was this one James map shortly before the auto2000 rule was introduced which abused this fact terribly. (I would have a hard time digging it up.)
I think 2000 bonus is juuuuuust fine in most cases, however I'd love to see this rule lowered to 1000 bonus instead. For instance, I spin average 300-320 RPM, and I easily 300 short spinners like that. Who knows, it might just be because I'm not scared of old maps and actually enjoy playing things like the James map I linked.
Anyway, reasons and stuff. Sometimes, a spinner with 2000 bonus is just a bit too long, and when a spinner actually does fit, a slider does not in most cases.
I can support auto 1000 as long as the proximity rules are kept.
Ijah_old
I actually really enjoy this map, and it's partially due to the spinners. Yeah, the ninja spinners in the map are kind of cheap, but clearing them feels awesome. I don't mind if a tiny bit of memorization creeps into maps.Rena-chan wrote:
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That said, there are people who think memorization has no place in this game and their argument is not without merit! Auto+1000 sounds good to me as a compromise... probably shouldn't have spinners that fast in anything lower than Hard though.
(I also think that spinner rhythms like in Wizards In Winter should be allowable... fuck your accuracy
)This depends on AR. Though, higher AR requires better reflexes, and 1000 spinners should be possible to complete in these cases. I propose to word it like this:mm201 wrote:
I can support auto 1000 as long as the proximity rules are kept.
Auto must achieve at least 1000 bonus points on spinners and the object following the spinner must not be visible before the spinner starts.
That sounds good to me.
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Support It
Rena-chan
Yup, sounds good.Odaril wrote:
This depends on AR. Though, higher AR requires better reflexes, and 1000 spinners should be possible to complete in these cases. I propose to word it like this:Auto must achieve at least 1000 bonus points on spinners and the object following the spinner must not be visible before the spinner starts.
Auto must achieve at least 1000 bonus points on spinners and the object following the spinner must not be visible before the spinner starts.
Ammended then