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Two_old
before someone makes the mistake of killing someone, this is how to win this game: ignore kingmaker/kings entirely

we should vote for who the king will kill like a normal game
Sleep Powder
Though we can't actually ignore them...
Two_old
animask, the next king will just be tasked with killing the king who doesn't go with what the majority wanted
Sleep Powder

Two wrote:

animask, the next king will just be tasked with killing the king who doesn't go with what the majority wanted
I guess that makes sense... so if we're ignoring them are we also ignoring who the king position is being passed to?
Salvage
on what do you want us to base that voting two?


cause as i see it you're basically saying iis that we lynch everyone but you and everyone who suggest lynching you is an option to lynch too.
Salvage
what do you think about it sync
Two_old
I don't know where you made that leap

I'm just saying that the way to win this game as town is to treat this like a normal mafia game
Salvage
you didn't answer to the first part

anyways


vote: Sync
Two_old
what part of vote like normal is unclear

base votes on who you think is mafia
Salvage
there is my vote can you take care of the votecount two pls
Two_old
I pick sync too

Sync (2): Salvage, Two
Two_old
andd ekaru just lurked too

why can't you guys just read and post

why make us think you're mafia if you're not
Drakari_old
Why sync again? Thread's short enough to reread everything but I still don't see the logic for that.
Ekaru

Two wrote:

andd ekaru just lurked too

why can't you guys just read and post

why make us think you're mafia if you're not
Because there's nothing really to discuss at this point so I wanted to wait for some more people to post before posting myself. Anyways...

Vote: Sync because all the cool kids are doing it
Sleep Powder
Why not Sync?
Chris_old
vote: animask
Sleep Powder
@Chris I guess it's hard to break old habits with bolding your vote lol

Vote: Sync
Salvage
vote: dxs
Two_old
Sync (3): Two, Ekaru, animask
animask (1): Chris
DeathxShinigami (1): Salvage
Sync
look at all of these sheep you sicken me

i was sitting here playing moe golf/eating pizza and you all vote for me :'(

vote: salvage

starts a bandwagon against me and then votes dxs = (
Chris_old
why are we not bolding votes

is the king supposed to bold only
Chris_old
oh nm I see votes don't matter apparently
Salvage
nice softclaim


hey sync that reasoning its kinda lame im sorry, lurking isnt, now vote dxs
Drakari_old
I see dem
Sync
can you clear up your post i'm kind of confused about the lurking part

also why dxs
Salvage
my reasoning for voting you was that u lurked and yours was nothing



dxs lurked, if you have anything more solid to go on i'll gladly hear you, though there is nothing more scum than lurking imo, or anti town if you want to call it that way.
Chris_old
salvage is trying too hard

lynch him
Sync
its like the very start of the game

well it kind of isn't now but it was
Chris_old
vote salvage
Chris_old
I really don't know how this game works

when the king finally decides he just says who he wants to die?

why are we voting then

also is there night kills or is it just lynching every day and switch off kings
Ekaru

Chris wrote:

I really don't know how this game works

when the king finally decides he just says who he wants to die?

why are we voting then

also is there night kills or is it just lynching every day and switch off kings
There are night kills. The goal is to help the king figure out who the assassins are so they can execute them.

The point of voting is to help the king decide who to kill each day. Of course, this also means that if the king thinks that a bandwagon was started by mafia, for example, they can ignore the votes and kill whoever started the bandwagon instead. Voting also helps the kingmaker choose who the king should be each day; if somebody votes for someone and that someone flips scum, then that somebody is a good candidate for king.

Anyways, Sync has posted so...

unvote for now. I'll vote again later after some more discussion has occurred.
Sync
voting doesnt matter at all I think

I think people are voting to influence the king's kill or some shit

and I think there are nightkills because the wiki says there are assassins that target two people every night
Two_old
Sync (2): Two, animask
Salvage (2): Sync, Chris
DeathxShinigami (1): Salvage

we are voting for order

the design of this game lends itself to the mafia

so we are ignoring the design and are forcing the king of the day to just be the arbitrator of our collective will

we are not "helping" the king, we are giving them an ultimatum for the sake of town winning
Salvage
the king can be scum too right
Two_old
yes
Chris_old
why is the king not supposed to say who they are if it switches every day
Sleep Powder
So if mafia is the king, are they allowed to pass it to another mafia member afterwards? The day ends when the king kills and he chooses his successor at night. We really shouldn't pay attention to who the king is or will be. We pay attention to who they kill.
Sleep Powder
Actually, it doesn't matter who becomes King... I just thought we could use the king abilities to scumhunt or something.
Ekaru

animask wrote:

So if mafia is the king, are they allowed to pass it to another mafia member afterwards? The day ends when the king kills and he chooses his successor at night. We really shouldn't pay attention to who the king is or will be. We pay attention to who they kill.
The king doesn't choose who the next king is. That's the kingmaker's job.
Topic Starter
LadySuburu
So guys, since I can't type and can't proofread...

Remember not to reveal that you are the king if you are.

Should say kingmaker.
Salvage
so there is a king and a kingmaker?
Topic Starter
LadySuburu

Salvage wrote:

so there is a king and a kingmaker?
Yes.

The kingmaker chooses who the next king is at night.

The king executes at day.

Kingmaker stays the same until he dies.

King changes every night.
Salvage
vote: Backfire
Hernan
Hi I'm reading
Hernan
Why always so agressive Salvage? It's like if you didn't care at all if an innocent dies.
Salvage
lol'd



vote: Hernan
Hernan
Not that I didn't see that coming.
Chris_old
hernan showing up salvage since 2012
Salvage
ok rantai, drakari, backfire, dxs mashley post something or vote hernan



im goin to sleep cya
Hernan
See ya.

Vote: Salvage.
Salvage
stop roleclaiming mafia pls
Hernan
Go to sleep already
Two_old
how are we going to lynch you unless you are asleep
Sleep Powder
Oh, so there is a Kingmaker and a King... LS should have posted that in the OP. Anyways...

unvote, Vote: Hernan
Two_old
Salvage (3): Sync, Chris, Hernan
Hernan (2): Salvage, animask
Sync (1): Two
Backfire
Something or vote hernan
DeathxShinigami

Backfire wrote:

Something or vote hernan
Sleep Powder

Backfire wrote:

Something or vote DxS and Backfire
Sync
what is going on
Sleep Powder
Nothing much, you?
Drakari_old
vote: salvage

Because seriously, you outta control.
Ivalset

animask wrote:

Oh, so there is a Kingmaker and a King... LS should have posted that in the OP. Anyways...
There's a link to the mafiascum wiki which clearly explains the rules and standard roles in the OP. http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?tit ... %28game%29

*walks off*
Rantai
Ok now that I understand how this game should work.

Hi.
Mashley

Salvage wrote:

ok rantai, drakari, backfire, dxs mashley post something or vote hernan



im goin to sleep cya
SORRY FOR SLEEPING MASTER SALVAGE
And no I'm not voting Hernan because uuuh why would I do that?
In fact vote salvage cos his play so far is scummy as fuck and I'm so up for a lynch on him even after like 5 pages or whatever.

Later guys.
Sync
lol
Salvage
look, all the lurkers suggesting a lynch on a pro player instead of directly lynching mafia d1 this game is hillarous
Sync
who is mafia
Salvage
who are you asking that to




Hernan and one of the lurkers probabbly
Sync
i was asking you also how do you know it is hernan j/w
Salvage

Hernan wrote:

Why always so agressive Salvage? It's like if you didn't care at all if an innocent dies.



isnt that enough for u
Salvage
just to clarify it to you:

viewtopic.php?p=1034541#p1034541



there you have my first mafia game AND as mafia, pulled the same one and i won't let that go.
Backfire
I don't understand this :D
Two_old
Salvage (6): Sync, Chris, Hernan, animask, Drakari, Mashley
Sync (1): Two
Hernan (1): Salvage

1 vote to kill salvage
Rantai
I want to kill Salvage but I get the feeling he is town....

Sigh.
Two_old
a wavering rantai is a mafia rantai
Chris_old
ya any time rantai backtracks they are mafia

when they are town they are more aggressive

also they've learned when it's smart to lurk recently
Rantai
You wish it were that easy.

Though my current role can be quite damaging to town if I use it wrong. If you require me to die as to at least not mislynch an important role then I'd suggest it.
Rantai
And yes I am being completely transparent this game, take it or leave it as you will.
Two_old
we have a different understanding of the word completely
Ekaru
Vote: Rantai

for not being able to make up his mind. ;P
Salvage
If we were to not lynch the mafia and lynch his partners instead (i blame you guys anyways), who would you say is mafia and why



it has to be one of the lurkers tho, two chris, ekaru and animask are confirmed town
Mashley
Roleclaim 'King Peasant'; if I am king the lynch is officially changed to a vote. Not that it would make much difference since it's going to be a vote anyway, but I didn't see a reason not to claim this.
On an unrelated note, I find it utterly hilarious how people are honestly asking people say who they think are mafia after like 6 pages of game... be realistic, please.
Two_old
my executions turn the people I kill into temporary restless spirits
Chris_old
I have no notable powers
Two_old
I don't believe that
Chris_old
I think LS made my role up last minute
Rantai
I make people lose control of their power and make them randomly use it.

Not exactly the best role for town out there.
Rantai
Though I'd also like to point out no one is confirmed, Salvage, as much as you'd like it to be.
Salvage
are we lynching hernan then or what



what i'm saying mashley is to suggest a secondary lynch
Salvage
oh i'm not confirmed i don't think i've ever said that, i'm actually asking who do you guys want to lynch
Rantai
@

Salvage wrote:

it has to be one of the lurkers tho, two chris, ekaru and animask are confirmed town
Salvage
oh, about that, yes .. they are confirmed from my point of view, i trust and allways will trust my reading skills on people so unless you want to suggest a better way of leading this lynch we'll be doing it this way, now suggest the secondary lynch if you can pleease rantai



if no one suggests any i'd say the best choice is to lynch the mafia, unless as i already said you have a better way to handle it? :)



or you differ from my readings being mafia or town ones
Chris_old
I think salvage just doesn't want any of us to keep on his case

and he added ekaru for good measure
Salvage
do i



or i just want to win the game your call buddy
Hernan
Let me know when you're done with the bullshit Salvage
Rantai
I'd be ok with an Ekaru lynch actually because omgus of opportunistic voting.
Salvage
the idea is you prooving otherwise or accepting i'm right



or you can just tell me your partners so we lynch them instead
Rantai
It doesn't work that way. You need to prove you're right or it can be anything otherwise.
Salvage
i already did and nobody prooved my otherwise or tried to deffend against it
Mashley
Oh my god Salvage you are ridiculous... Seriously how can you even rationalise considering people 'confirmed' based on your read from 7 pages of game. Trusting a player without explicit reason at this stage is a deathwish and you know that, which is why that looks so much like you trying to protect your scum buddies.
Okay I'm 100% behind lynching Salvage now.. heck I'd do it now if I was king.
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