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NoHitter
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We're in quite a situation here. Doctor is dead.
Mianki, claim whoever you investigated since the doctor is gone.

Also quite an interesting situation we have here.
We have a Redirector yet Sync claims he's a Bus Driver.

I'm a bit unsure on having two Redirection roles in a game.
Thoughts on this?
NoHitter
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NoHitter
Ninja'd
How are you sure MB?
Lilac
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Lilac
I'm not...

...They're just the mostly likely people.
Rantai
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dkun makes sense to me due to DxS calling him out.

Why animask again?
Lilac
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I dunno, two random people.

I'll look at this seriously...in a few minutes. Gotta watch the beginning of Skyrim.
Sync
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Sync
oh last night I sent in Lilac and Rantai as my two choices because he said I had to choose somebody and you two were the first names I thought of
Mianki
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Mianki
Damn, I checked Dusty.
Lilac
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Lilac
Let's just lynch dkun.

Nothing else to go on really.
Sleep Powder
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I don't have a night action and I'm going to guess Lilac and/or NoHItter is mafia. Anyone have a list of roleclaims?
Rantai
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Rantai
I think we have a cop, switch and bus driver claim.
NoHitter
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NoHitter

animask wrote:

I don't have a night action and I'm going to guess Lilac and/or NoHItter is mafia. Anyone have a list of roleclaims?
On what basis?

Claims so far:
Rantai - Switch
Sync - Bus Driver
Mianki - Cop

So assuming we have 2 mafia left, that would bring us to 6 - 2 today.
Which means we have one more "safe" mislynch before My-Lo, assuming only one kill would happen tonight. (4-2)

Also after rethinking and , I think a safe course of action is to have Sync swap Mianki with another person, so Mianki would still be "safe" and can still cop someone.

Though as I've said, I'm still a bit wary of Sync's claim as there is already a Redirector role (palion) and I'm not sure about having two Redirector roles in a game. (Unless someone can confirm his role some way?)
Jinxy
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Jinxy
I can't confirm Sync's role, but I have redirection powers too.
I can only reveal it's x-shot and pretty damned useless. Any more and I may get modkilled.
dkun
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Lilac wrote:

Let's just lynch dkun.

Nothing else to go on really.
ya, no.
quit getting attention off yourself, scum

vote: lilac
Rantai
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Rantai
Honestly you're both equally scum but only because DxS called you out and because Lilac is shooting guns at you that easily.
Lilac
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Scum harder, dkun.

DxS either ratted you out or wanted to divert attention to get an easy townie lynch. I doubt he would care about your inactivity if you were town. Vote: dkun Come at me, bro.
Sleep Powder
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Lilac: I heard starting a vote first (especially mid-game) could be read as a scum-tell. That's what I'm going with.

NoHiTter: There are about 3+ different roles that are redirecting roles. A Nexus would be the only other reasonable possibility.

Mianki does seem a bit suspicious, but I'm assuming he was confirmed successfully. dkun versus Lilac... I'm leaning towards Lilac being mafia, but I don't know enough about dkun just yet.
Lilac
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How am I mafia just off some conjecture that probably doesn't hold half the time?
Sleep Powder
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Why I think NoHiTter is somewhat suspicious?

Only a weak reasoning where he briefly explained his thoughts on the recent NK and he just feels oddly different.
NoHitter
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animask wrote:

Why I think NoHiTter is somewhat suspicious?

Only a weak reasoning where he briefly explained his thoughts on the recent NK and he just feels oddly different.
How is my reasoning on my thoughts weak?

I'm now willing to somewhat trust Sync because of what JInxy said.
So we have Sync switch Mianki with someone else to protect Mianki. Thoughts on this plan?

Re: dkun vs Lilac
I'm not exactly sure how what DxS said can be interpreted as a sign of being mafia.
Lilac
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DxS ratted him out.

Whether it's true or not I don't know but dkun will have to try much harder than that if he's not scum.
Sync
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Sync
Okay, I will switch Mianko. No problem.

..but with who?
Rantai
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If we decide for you it'd defeat the purpose of switching.
Sync
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Sync
That was supposed to be a rhetorical question. Just kidding. I misread NoHItter's post and thought I had to prove that I was a bus driver.
Rantai
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Rantai
Right.
Sync
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Sync
Indeed.
Jinxy
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Jinxy

DeathxShinigami wrote:

Nah Mianki's legit.

Roleclaim: Mafia Roleblocker

Also there's a bus driver amongst us.

GG.
...Guys?

Unless he meant "us" as in the game.
Rantai
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Rantai
Oh I thought he was referring to a night kill being bussed.

But that might be possible too.
Mianki
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Mianki
animask and Lilac seems the most suspicious to me. And I'm fine being switched.
Rantai
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Rantai
Vote: dkun
NoHitter
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Lilac wrote:

DxS ratted him out.

Whether it's true or not I don't know but dkun will have to try much harder than that if he's not scum.
So your argument against dkun is basically "DxS said he should play more and dkun didn't defend himself against that statement."?

I don't exactly think that's a solid reason to vote someone for.
pieguyn
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Votecount:

dkun (2) - Lilac, Rantai
Lilac (1) - dkun

The deadline is in 2 hours.
Lilac
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Unvote.

Alright then. animask, you still didn't answer my question about your shoddy reasoning. Why so shoddy?
NoHitter
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NoHitter
Crap.
I keep on forgetting the deadline is just 72 hours even though this is not a Mini.

Anyway, we have two people on the lynching block at the moment.
Lilac and dkun.

So after rereading:
First we have Lilac calling dkun out for what DxS said regarding dkun.
As I've said, I believe that Lilac's argument was very weak.
At the very best, it was a WIFOM statement which shouldn't be used solely to vote someone.

On the other hand, at least Lilac attempted to bring out discussion even though it was weak basis.

Then we have dkun who basically lurked the entire game.
His reaction to Lilac's accusation was then an OMGUS vote accusing Lilac of being scum.
He also didn't even try to answer back when Lilac finally explained why he voted.

So basically we have Lilac who was grasping for straws at a reason to lynch someone.
And dkun who OMGUS voted then lurked again.

Among these two then, I think both of them are equally suspicious, but in terms of activity, at least Lilac contributed more.
So, Vote: dkun
Sleep Powder
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Lilac wrote:

Alright then. animask, you still didn't answer my question about your shoddy reasoning. Why so shoddy?
I'm not assuming you're mafia, but I do find you suspicious. Since dkun is the obvious target at the moment, I'm keeping my
attention to everyone else. If dkun is mafia, someone might try to direct attention to someone else while you instead are
keeping close to dkun (and me) for some reason. I'm usually an easy target, so I like to make that useful in my scum hunting
strategy (even though I can't find mafia easily).

vote: Lilac I'm just curious, but I shouldn't be making decisions.
pieguyn
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Hardly anyone wanted to lynch anyone, but ultimately it was decided that dkun was the one to go. Then animask popped up and said Lilac should be the one to go instead, although it seems like he was a bit too late to make much of a difference.

dkun - Rolestopper (compulsive) - Lynched D4

It is now Night 4. The deadline is in 24 hours.
pieguyn
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pieguyn
Night extended by 24 hours again.
pieguyn
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pieguyn
Sorry for the delay again, but I ended up being really busy yesterday :o

To everyone's surprise, Mianki was found dead. He was exactly as he claimed.

Mianki - Cop - Killed N4

It is now Day 5. With 6 alive, it's 4 to lynch. The deadline is in 72 hours.
Lilac
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Vote: animask.

For dodging a DxS lynch D2 and voting for Backfire on that same day with no reason.
Sleep Powder
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Better Backfire than some better town-aligned role. Can you explain to me what happened on D2? Unless this is just something mafia-aligned Lilac is trying to use against me.
Lilac
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Backfire was town, who cares about his role?

Everyone vote animask, thanks.
Lilac
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But sure, I'll bite to what happened at D2.

You voted for a person who was banned (lol, easy lynch must be!) when a cop report said DxS was mafia. Enough for me to consider you mafia.
Sleep Powder
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Lilac wrote:

Backfire was town, who cares about his role?

Everyone vote animask, thanks.
Okay, NOW you're really mafia. You do realize that this is a role madness, right? Backfire also seemed like a better lynch than a no-lynch.
The game seemed inactive during that period so I decided to leave my vote there.

Anyways, with most of us already claimed, it seems the mafia might be trying to kill everyone who is. Therefore, I'm only going to claim if people start agreeing to lynch me today (or you could just learn my actual role by lynching me that won't help at all).

Only mafia would rush a lynch like this. I'm guessing there are 1-2 mafia members left.

vote: Lilac

@recent post

I actually found it odd how the town didn't do anything with that single vote. The mafia (like you) could have also used that against me later in the game (which you did). I get how the mafia didn't do anything, but the town should have done a better job.
Lilac
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You're cracking, animask.

This isn't a role madness game for one, pieguy specifically said this was a normal game and I quote.

pieguy1372 wrote:

Welcome to my second mafia game. I can't think of a name :cry:

This game is a normal-themed game. For this game, there is a limit of 15 players. If you want to play, sign up ASAP :?
Failure #1.

Rushing a lynch? On someone who did that D2? Yeah, I'll bring it up because that was your first slip and you're continuously slipping now. You can keep your fancy idea of what a mafia or town means. The fact is, you need to actually have an argument to begin with.

animask wrote:

Backfire also seemed like a better lynch than a no-lynch.
Read above. Please try again.
Lilac
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EBWOP: Read above as in read the post before yours.
Rantai
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Ignoring the fact that Sync lied about his bus driver?

There are no roleblockers on the mafia side as far as I can tell.

I get the feeling Lilac is trying to divert attention from that.
Lilac
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Lilac
Wat? He lied about that?

And how does this change animask's situation?
Rantai
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Doesn't change anything about animask, I'm not buying the argument against him.

Right now we're at my-lo and I actually agree with him that you come off as mafia (and Sync too now).
Lilac
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You need to say more than just "I'm not buying the argument." That's what I said to animask as well.
Rantai
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Lilac wrote:

Vote: animask.

For dodging a DxS lynch D2 and voting for Backfire on that same day with no reason.
- My assumption was he didn't read the thread properly. This one is iffy though but you basically blindly gunning at people with bare minimum evidence is very concerning (and warrants more suspicion)

- About the single vote lynch - I was actually going to mention that we only had one vote but by the time I woke up time had already run out (pieguy you need to give us time cues ;~;). So I'm attributing that one to a town lapse.

Of course I'm not saying animask is town but he's less suspicious than the two of you so far.
Rantai
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Oh wait.

Sync who did you target last night for switching?

Silly me, forgot about another possibility.
Lilac
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Minimum evidence? That's not minimum at all. The thing I don't understand is why you're letting animask that easily off the hook. A town lapse? Seriously? You're writing off a one-vote lynch, like that?
Rantai
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Oh yeah triple post;

Vote: No-lynch

My-lo and all, we're better off going into a 3-2 situation rather than take this 4-2 situation.
Rantai
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Lilac wrote:

Minimum evidence? That's not minimum at all.
Now it's your turn to explain why this is the case instead of saying "No it's not"

The thing I don't understand is why you're letting animask that easily off the hook. A town lapse? Seriously? You're writing off a one-vote lynch, like that?
The very fact that I missed the deadline to point it out (and everyone else too) tells me I am (and the rest of town) is to blame too. No one noticed the deadline basically.

Again I acknowledge that his actions have hurt town but given the situations I am not convinced that he is mafia just yet.
Lilac
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Sure, I'll say why this is a case.

"Backfire also seemed like a better lynch than a no-lynch." was the words he said. This was about D3's lynch. I was specifically talking about D2's lynch and his vote for Backfire on the same day. Why would he bring up D3's lynch when I didn't even ask about it?

Unless you're telling me that's a slip as well.
Rantai
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Rofl. Reading it again you both were talking about 2 different things.

You talked about D2 and he talked D3. Either that was a genuine miss or he is dodging very bluntly.

Bottom line though, it's better if we discussed this on the next day. All info now is helping the mafia I just realised.
Lilac
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Sync, start talking. You don't say anything of much info so you're the perfect guy to keep talking.
Lilac
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Lilac
JK man, you know I love you. Just say something.
Sync
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Sync
I targeted Lilac and Mianki

Again, targeting Lilac was random. Just the first name that popped into my head
Rantai
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Kay.

I'd like to elaborate further but again I'm going to wait until the next day.
Lilac
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Indeed, that raises a lot of questions in my opinion as well.

The fact is why are you suppressing activity, Rantai? Will you even survive the night? What makes you so sure you're going to live to the next day? Cause if you don't...this is all for nothing.
Rantai
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What I'm thinking isn't very hard to figure out.

I'm suppressing because if we get any leads today then the mafia can manipulate that for the night kill tonight and leave us hanging on the next day because we can't do a lynch today without lowering our chances to hit mafia.
Lilac
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I can see where you're getting at but...

Unvote, Vote: No Lynch.

Can we at least make a suspicion list as to who you would think the final mafia are? Rantai said me and Sync and I believe that animask is mafia.
Rantai
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Sync and Lilac atm.

Sync, if you actually are a bus driver, swap me and someone tonight.

I wonder if this'll work.
Lilac
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So guys, I was watching Persona 4 The Animation today... Something kinda makes me feel odd about it but...
Sync
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Sync
will do, Rantai
NoHitter
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Actually I prefer if we do not discuss anything at the moment.
Any suspicions on anyone you confirm today can be used by the Mafia to turn the Nightkill into a mess of WIFOM.
Vote: No Lynch
Sync
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Sync
ok

Vote: No Lynch
pieguyn
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Everyone quickly decided not to lynch anyone, choosing to play their odds instead. No one was lynched today.

It is now Night 5. The deadline is in 24 hours.
pieguyn
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Sorry for the delay (again)...

Everyone woke up to find Sync dead.

Sync - Busdriver (compulsive) - Killed N5

It is now D6. With 5 alive, it's 3 to lynch. The deadline is in 72 hours.
Sync
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Sync
fuck
Sleep Powder
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NoHiTter, you don't normally vote for a No Lynch... well at this time I really shouldn't roleclaim.

I'll roleclaim to somewhat avoid a lynch... mafia obviously wants to use me as a lynch target so they're keeping me alive.

I find Lilac and NoHiTter (only because of the vote thing) suspicous at this moment. I really want to lynch
Lilac today, but I think I should hear what other people have to say first.
Lilac
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Roleclaim: Nexus.

At this point in time, I want animask and Rantai lynched. I do have a feeling that JInx is responsible for the extensions of Nights though.
Sleep Powder
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Lilac wrote:

Roleclaim: Nexus.

At this point in time, I want animask and Rantai lynched. I do have a feeling that JInx is responsible for the extensions of Nights though.
Hmm, so you're saying that JInxy has been inactive? Do you mean that pieguy is waiting for JInxy to send a night action? (NK PM)
That could be possible... or something clever for the mafia to use... wait, why hasn't JInxy been prodded yet?
Lilac
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Why don't you prod him?
Lilac
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Rantai wrote:

Ignoring the fact that Sync lied about his bus driver?

There are no roleblockers on the mafia side as far as I can tell.

I get the feeling Lilac is trying to divert attention from that.
Also, this post is complete bullshit now. That and there's a few other bones to pick as to why I think Rantai is mafia, more coming up.
Sleep Powder
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JInxyjem, I'll be waiting for you to post something...
Jinxy
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Wait what I'm not dead in this game? Sorry guys, I'll reread when I get home.

But Lilac's roleclaim is odd. There are way too many redirection roles here.
Jinxy
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Is your role x-shot?
Lilac
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No.

Blame pieguy.
Lilac
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Oh shit...

...What have I frickin' done?
Lilac
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GJ, mafia. You won.

I just got a one-way ticket to being modkilled. Screw you, pieguy.
Rantai
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Nexus, well that's just great.

I was going to say (the other day) that Lilac might have been targeted and got Mianki killed, somewhat confirming him. But now that I see a nexus, how does it affect a busdriver's ability?
Rantai
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Also I'm thinking a mass claim is in order now, ly-lo and all.
Lilac
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How the hell can I not roleclaim Nexus? That's bullshit.
Sleep Powder
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You seriously aren't allowed to claim Nexus? I find that ridiculous on the mod's part. I thought my game was bad (yet entertaining).

If you really do get modkilled, I guess I'm going for NoHiTter.

Rantai, I don't think a Nexus works like that. It isn't supposed to redirect kills, but idk what pieguy did.
Rantai
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If he's modkilled, it's game over.

I thought a nexus redirects any action directed at them to someone else.
Lilac
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It does, I only just saw now that I couldn't claim it.

Hate you all.
Rantai
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That would be the worst way to lose. Don't do it pieguy.
Sleep Powder
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Rantai wrote:

If he's modkilled, it's game over.

I thought a nexus redirects any action directed at them to someone else.
So there are 2 mafia remaining? Oh well, gg
Rantai
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15 players, 4 mafia makes sense. 3 mafia would be nice though.
Sleep Powder
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That means Rantai and NoHiTter are mafia (or JInxyjem, but I didn't suspect him).
Rantai
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I'm more apprehensive of those who aren't claiming at the moment. Seeing as they are withholding info at a possible ly-lo.
Rantai
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And I'm almost certain I'm the 'compulsive' switch.

Switch nonetheless though.
Lilac
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You probably just made people compulsive.

GJ, Rantai.
Lilac
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Okay, in the VERY VERY unlikely event that there's only one mafia left. Who do you think it is?

GG, animask. Best mafia ever.
Rantai
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Jinxy or animask.

Oh yeah no one vote until we're certain who we want to lynch, if there are 2 left it'll only take one town to make us lose.
Lilac
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Here's my list of reasoning to find scummy shit from everyone.

  1. animask - Stuffed up what this game is. Normal setup. On top of that, messed up with talking about D3 and D2. You can find my previous arguments on him at the end of Day 5.
  2. Rantai - Gave literally NOTHING to say why I was mafia, even though I encouraged him to say so. There was no evidence, no quotes, no nothing. Even tried to down my argument with the same approach, nothing. Not really a mafia sign, I'm just really annoyed.
  3. NoHItter - He's basically the most town sounding bastard that's left. It's also proven that the most town sounding people are probably the most likely to be mafia. It's weak but do not forget, no-one is EVER confirmed town.
  4. JInx - Gone for weeks on end. Only voted for the 2 confirmed mafia. "That was easy." on DxS lynch, contributing nothing more than votecounts and ISO making.
Rantai
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Rantai wrote:

Ignoring the fact that Sync lied about his bus driver?

There are no roleblockers on the mafia side as far as I can tell.

I get the feeling Lilac is trying to divert attention from that.
While we know it's BS now, we didn't know that before. That was the basis of my suspicion.
Rantai
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Though now that I know that Sync was actually a bus driver, depending on how a nexus works I'm a lot less suspicious now.
Lilac
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You didn't even come to conclusion or reason as to why he lied.

That's why it's so bad.
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