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bmin11
I can tell you that LS isn't happy with my flavor and my ability very much. I can't provide any solid logic for it, since the flavor and the story I received from LS does not make much indications toward me.


EDIT: in other word, I would have given myself an anti-town role if I was the mod, LS just chose not to for some reason. Maybe balance issue I guess.
0_o

Two wrote:

just based on role potential alone, I'd like to lynch 0_o or bmin today

unless you all can offer me solid logic behind them not having anti town roles
I don't see why you would think I'd be anti-town?

-I've never been incorrectly lynched as town. Hell, I hardly ever even get serious votes against me. People generally don't see me as scummy.

-Here are all of the recent games where I've been mafia:
1) Paska (pretty much my only really good mafia game)
2) TF2 (won, but it was dead easy with the general lack in participation as well a pyro (cop) safeclaim)
3) Less Experimental (pretty much an utter failure)

Besides Paska I really don't see any reason for LS to give me an anti-town role.

Anyway, I don't think LS would give Mara an independent role that draws so much attention to himself, as that would make it really hard for him to win. Though I guess WIFOMWIFOMWIFOM etc.
Backfire
Ive been trying to figure out maras role and I think I might have it now.

Role name is probably Lunatic or something
Day vig, maybe priest, with one of the most ridiculous post restrictions ever.
Loses memory after day kill, picks it back up when someone votes him?
This guy is either going to make or break us, in my eyes.
He killed either a cult member or mafia, but we dont know yet if thats all he can get.
I say keep him around one more day just to see what happens. If he kills a townie then we lynch. But theres a whole possibility that im entirely wrong and mara had one day kill and is making everything else up.

So far this game has seriously been one of the most weird, surreal, and awesome things ever btw.
Top tier mafia game.
Two_old

0_o wrote:

-I've never been incorrectly lynched as town. Hell, I hardly ever even get serious votes against me. People generally don't see me as scummy.
that is exactly why I think you and bmin are potentially mafia

our roles are based on how we play not what we've been

for example, the reason why I'm not anti-town is because I generate discussion (there is no way for making people talk and exposing alignments to be a good trait for someone who isn't town)

with you and bmin, playing in a way as to not be suspected is exactly why you are prime candidates for mafia

animask is always lurky, often doesn't make sense, and is just obstructive in general which is why him being a miller makes sense

I actually believe what bmin said about his role, but I still believe lynching you is a good idea at this point 0_o
Chris_old
you would want to lynch one of the more active people who help generate discussion like yourself why
Two_old
if you're talking to me you have a very warped idea of how 0_o plays
bmin11
Flavors are based on LS's view on people, correct? Than if LS thinks the person's behavior seems like townie, then the person's alignment is likely to be town. The motive behind person's play style shouldn't influence how LS thinks about the person, unless the person has a history of back stabbing townie a lot, which is not the case for 0_o. Of course the last bit is just my opinion on 0_o's history.





P.S. I was lynched as a (bullet-proof) townie on Two-for-One mafia
0_o

LS wrote:

Every player's role is themselves, as I see them in the mafia games.
Yes, if someone's playstyle gives off the appearance of town then they have potential to be a successful mafia. But it's not about what players have qualities that make a good mafia, it's about how LS generally views the players in games. And the fact that I am often viewed as town, and only have an average mafia success rate, I think makes it pretty clear that I'm town.

The difference between me and bmin is that, while he also generally has a town "aura", he has a reputation of being a tricky mafia.
Mara
IT'S TIME, MY CHILDREN

LET'S BLESS TOGETHER, SO THE EVIL WILL ESCAPE FROM OUR LAND!
Lilac
I'm going to ask for a blessing from Lady Mara.

Calling this now!

Just in case this kills me or removes my role. Code #1a9d8e: There are no jesters in this game.
Lilac
Also Mash, you're an independent, aren't you?
foulcoon
unvote i guess

also

I humbly request your blessing, Lady Mara. Please help us to vanquish evil from our land.

that came out so much gayer than I thought
Mara
YOU HAVE BEEN BLESSED, MY CHILD.

WITH A BLESSING OF MARA.
Mara
AND BY CHILD I MEAN CHILDREN (LILAC, FOULCOON)
Mashley

Lilac wrote:

Also Mash, you're an independent, aren't you?
Nope, why?
foulcoon

Mashley wrote:

Lilac wrote:

Also Mash, you're an independent, aren't you?
Nope, why?
you were just independent for like the last couple games and thats all anyone remembers, right?

jester, then before that lyncher?
Lilac
Okay, cool.

Unvote, Vote: Mashley.
Mara
NOW TELL ME CHILDREN, WHO SHALL I VOTE?

WHO DO YOU THINK WHO HAS THE MOST EVIL AURA?
foulcoon
idk? I kinda find KRZY suspicious at this point but I don't have a whole lot to go on.
foulcoon
also animask, but people seem to believe he could actually be a miller so, whatever
Chris_old
LunaticMara use your powers to persuade your god to expose someone with an evil aura

thx
foulcoon
If his power worked like that we would have like 2 or 3 "jack of all trades" players running around, which seems rather unrealistic. Also nothing happened with that blessing so either we wait til LS sees it or it does absolutely nothing but make Mara laugh at us.
Mara
THE GOD GAVE ME A NEW TASK AND THEREFORE I CAN'T DO ANYTHING AT THE MOMENT

BUT I ALREADY PRAYED FOR IT SO I AM WAITING FOR THE GOD TO GIVE ME AN ANSWER
Chris_old
what is your task Mara? besides getting the amulet of light
Mara
I NEED TO STEAL NOHITTER'S LITTLE SISTERS UNDERWEAR.

THAT IS MY TASK.
Chris_old
is nohitter a mason or does Mara have humor
foulcoon
can you steal the underwear if we lynch him?
Mara
I AM NOT SURE IF I CAN DO THAT THEN

PLEASE DO NOT LYNCH HIM, I NEED DEM UNDERWEAR - LADY MARA NEEDS THEM ASAP
Lilac
Now I'm kinda questioning if Mara killed Salvage or the death scene was complete flavour and current posting related...

...Regardless, I think 0_o, bmin and Mashley are Mafia because 0_o is good at it, bmin makes a great Godfather and since Mashley isn't independent, there's no way in hell he's town with that little posting.
Mara
THOUGH I DON'T CARE WHAT DO YOU DO TO HIM AFTER I WILL FINISH MY TASK
bmin11
I give up on understanding Mara's role.






And I'm not a Godfather.
Chris_old
LunaticMara do you have any interest in having a certain person dying
foulcoon
i dont really understand the 0_o part because from what I've seen hes been town a lot and plays pretty pro-town. I also don't think bmin would be a godfather, but he has been SK like a bajillion times so I can see him as anti-town or possible mafia.

I can kind of agree with your reasoning on Mashley. kinda.
foulcoon
that post was directed at lilac
bmin11
I've been SK once
foulcoon
shut up
Mara
MY CHILD, CHRIS, I DON'T. I DON'T SENSE ANY EVIL AURA AT THE MOMENT. BUT I DON'T SENSE ANY GOOD AURA EITHER.

WITH THE AMULET OF LIGHT I WILL SENSE AURAS BETTER.

ANYWAYS, I WILL VOTE FOR THE GODS, IF YOU TELL ME WHY PERSON X NEEDS TO GET OUT FROM LANDS OF MORTAL
Lilac
I think I get it...

...I think he needs someone lynched in order to use another role of his... but still, why the Gods?
foulcoon
he just worded that poorly. pretty sure hes saying he will vote for whoever we want him to as long as theres a good reason
Mara
OF COURSE I MEANT THAT I WILL VOTE THE EVIL AWAY TO MAKE GODS PLEASED

EXCUSE MY HORRIBLE PRIEST LANGUAGE
pieguyn
LunaticMara probably gets a cop ability when a certain person gets killed
Jinxy
So Mara needs to kill someone to get an Amulet of Light, and get NH's sister's underwear (what the fuck)

I don't even anymore


Do you remember why you killed Salvage
bmin11
Just ignore the underwear part, and Mara said the one with the Amulet of Light has a strong evil aura. So, we just have to search for anti-towns and we would get one if we are lucky.
Jinxy
Ok.
Mara
MY CHILD, JINXYJEM, I KILLED SALVAGE BECAUSE I GOT HIRED.

I GOT HIRED BY THE GOD HIMSELF.
foulcoon
i think all of you are mafia, except maybe mara. he seems legit
bmin11
And apparently God pays you 300 whatever. Okay.
foulcoon
anyways, i'm going to sleep. if for some reason lady mara's blessing kills me, tell Ivalset I love him.
Mara
300 WHAT? I DON'T QUITE UNDERSTAND, MY CHILD.

I GOT A DRAGON SOUL FOR KILLING SALVAGE, I JUST DON'T KNOW HOW TO USE IT
Jinxy
but salvage isn't a dragon

is he
Mara
NO YOU FOOL

IT'S A OLD DRAGON SOUL FROM THE PAST
Chris_old
did Salvage have an evil aura when you killed him
Mara
YES, I SENSED AN EVIL AURA ON HIM.
Chris_old

LunaticMara wrote:

YES, I SENSED AN EVIL AURA ON HIM.
would you consider yourself sane and in a good state of mind
Sleep Powder
O' Wise Lady Mara, were you affiliated with foulcoon and Lilac in any way before their prayers?
Mara
MY CHILD, CHRIS, I AM TOTALLY FINE.

DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT. I HAVE BEEN BLESSED.

ANIMASK, I WILL TELL THE ANSWER ONCE LADY MARA ANSWERS TO MY PRAYERS.
Two_old
lunaticmara's story has contradictions and he's an overall annoying presence
Mara
WHAT DOES "CONTRADICTIONS" MEAN?

CONTRA DICTIONS

CONTRA

JUNGLE?
Chris_old
didn't you say you got hired by someone and got paid 300 gold

but now you said it was a dragon soul and you were hired by god

wat
KRZY
Can we lynch him already and get this over with please
Swiftwolf Yellowtail
I'd rather not risk one of us getting killed.

Anyway, with such an active game (that I slept through ~5.5 pages of), I have this to say:

Lady Mara, with all that's been going on, do you have any idea of who NoHItter's sister is?
Mara
OH, 300 GOLD? I GOT THEM WHEN I SOLD MY OLD IRON HELMET. I DON'T NEED IT ANYMORE, REALLY.

AND DON'T CALL ME LADY MARA, SHE IS A GODDNESS, NOT ME.

THOUGH, I WILL ANSWER TO YOU - NO, I DON'T KNOW HIS SISTER. BUT I NEED THE UNDERWEAR NOW.
Jinxy

Swiftwolf Yellowtail wrote:

I'd rather not risk one of us getting killed.
...What? "Us" as in...?
All of us = You don't want a lynch?
Mafia = Ok that makes sense, can we lynch you then
Swiftwolf Yellowtail
I say "us" as in all of us. HOWEVER, I do not say we should no lynch, but I don't think it'd be a good idea to lynch Mara.
adam2046
I say we lynch KRZY.
Rantai
I don't think ridding us of Mara is a good idea just yet. I think he might be able to reveal more information (whether it's reliable or not is another question that can't be answered yet) later on.

Also I don't believe bmin's flavour claim. LS already mentioned how he didn't like some of the flavours and this just seems to be another crafty capitalisation on that.
Two_old

adam2046 wrote:

I say we lynch KRZY.
k sounds good to me

unvote, vote KRZY
NoHitter
... What the hell is with this underwear thing, Mara?
Also everyone answer this question: "Who do you want to be lynched at the moment and why?"
I'm pretty sure there's already a good amount of info in the thread for this.

After skimming the thread again, I would pick KRZY. He seems too adamant on getting rid of Mara.

(Oh btw, I don't have a sister only brothers.)
Two_old
then stop talking about who you want to lynch and start acting on it

vote for krzy if you want him lynched
Two_old
honestly people who just talk without action come across as mafia
adam2046
I thought I totally did.
Vote: KRZY
NoHitter
Vote: KRZY

Oh and lurkers/people who haven't contributed at least some, please post.
Two_old
that would be lilac jinxyjem, kokizi, mduh, mashley, and ivalset
Lilac
Why would you purposely leave out so many other people?
Jinxy
m-hm, yeah. I'm just looking at recent posts and then jumping into the ISOs to check further pages right now.

So what is the general feeling of Mara right now, town or 3rd-party?
Kokizi

JInxyjem wrote:

m-hm, yeah. I'm just looking at recent posts and then jumping into the ISOs to check further pages right now.

So what is the general feeling of Mara right now, town or 3rd-party?
to be honest, I feel like Mara is more of pro-town 3rd party.

but then, his post restriction might just be an act.
also, I think 'NoHitter's little sister' might have a deeper meaning into it
Lilac
Ehh, LS hated his role for Paska, I wouldn't be surprised if this was to get him back.
Mara
LADY MARA, PLEASE ASSIST ME AND EVERYONE ELSE TO FIGHT AGAINST EVIL

VOTE: KRZY

IF YOU ARE NOT AN EVIL PERSON KRZY, TALOS GUIDE YOU.
IF YOU ARE AN EVIL PERSON KRZY, DAEDRIC SHALL PUNISH YOU.
Lilac
Talos
Daedric

For those who are still paranoid about Mara.
Mara
ONLY CASUALS ARE USING ELDER SCROLLS WIKI

USE UESP MY CHILD
Lilac
UESP is a bit all over the place. The wiki makes it more defined and brief.

Unvote, Vote: KRZY I still think Mashley is mafia though.
Two_old
everyone quickly join the save animask bandwagon
Jinxy
I don't know about Mash, his posts don't seem scummy, just lacking (4 proper posts as of now). That, and you seem to be the only few considering him, Lilac. I can see KRZY's reasons for lynching Mara, but lynching a sorta-dayvig this early seems wrong, especially when he killed a possible Mafia. We can always lynch him later if he decides to kill town, or more of his kills flip just like Salvage.

Vote: KRZY
Lilac
And I thought Mara was the only confusing person in this thread.
Jinxy
Oh yeah, have you decided on any tactic to prove animask isn't lying about his role, Two?
Lilac
Referring to Two, with my previous post.

I'm just suspecting Mashley because of how the roles were chosen. Mashley hardly talks and claims he wasn't an independent like other games that were prominent for him, hence he's Mafia since people usually thinking not posting/lurking is a scum tell. That's just my opinion.
Two_old

JInxyjem wrote:

Oh yeah, have you decided on any tactic to prove animask isn't lying about his role, Two?
do you want me to tell him to protect me while the watcher watches or something
Jinxy
eh... I don't know? I think that might work? I asked you because you're always making plans and such.
Rantai
KRZY sounds a bit frustrated...

Vote: KRZY

Eh he's on my list of initial thoughts, might as well.

Edit: english
Two_old
this bandwagon is hilarious
Mara
I SENSE IT

I REALLY SENSE IT

SOMEONE IN HERE... IS A DOVAHKIIN.

WHOEVER YOU ARE, LADY MARA WILL BLESS YOU WITH THIS SONG

Lilac
...You broke the Youtube link, didn't you?
Lilac
okay, never mind. It was my browser.
Kokizi
oh well.

vote : KRZY
Jinxy
So what have you gotten from reading this thread, Kokizi?
Topic Starter
LadySuburu
Event time! (A while back... I was asleep.)

LunaticMara just walks into NoHItter's house, ignoring the locked door which he busts down. He digs through NoHItter's house...

LunaticMara: GUILTY! GUILTY! NOHITTER IS GUILTY! KILL THIS EVIL MAN!

Mara then leaves the house, still ranting on how NoHItter is guilty.
Backfire
Uhm.
i missed 8 pages. Agh...
Rantai
- LS.

What?

Starting to sound like a day JOAT... with a post restriction.
Rantai
Oh yeah;

Unvote, Vote: NoHItter

I still think Mara is legit, this will prove if he really is or not.
Two_old
unvote, vote nohitter
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