@Chris
Have you shot anyone? I assume you got your vig shot from the last lynch.

Well, as you can see from my movements (voting for nohItter etc), I am a paranoiac townie.

Btw, I'm not "he". She, please.

I protected Rantai like I was told and recieved no new notifications about my role so I am pretty damn sure at this point I'm a generic Doctor.

Carry on now.

Sorry for double posting but

Vote: UnderminE

For not roleclaiming, not answering anything that other players have asked you.

And no I'm not buying the timezone stuff. You had plenty of time to respond back.

UnderminE wrote:

Well, as you can see from my movements (voting for nohItter etc), I am a paranoiac townie.

Btw, I'm not "he". She, please.

May I ask for your explanation of your role?

Hey guys, my restriction was a gambit.

In reality, I''m really an ordinary Townie - no restriction whatsoever.
When pieguy claimed that he was a Townie only, I decided to fake a restriction with an adjective before "Townie".

Thus we got two other "Townie" claims with an adjective before them (excluding mine)
Mashley who turned out guilty, and UnderminE who I now heavily suspect.

That was why I was sure that pieguy was town, prior to his change, and was suspicious of Mashley.

tl:dr Townie role shouldn't have an adjective before based on what I'm thinking.
Vote: UnderminE

Also I have received AIDS and will die the next night if I don't get medicine from a someone I don't know.

EBWOP:
Unvote
Too early yet for someone to be placed at L-1.

HEY GUYS MY RESTRICTION'S A JOKE TOO LOLLLLLLLLYEAHNO

I KNEW THERE WAS SOMETHING FISHY ABOUT HAVING BOTH "CHILD" AND "YOUTH" ROLES... ANYWAY, I'M COOL WITH AN UNDERMINE LYNCH.

NoHItter wrote:

Also I have received AIDS and will die the next night if I don't get medicine from a someone I don't know.

I had a good chuckle from this.

Also I want to vote you based purely on the fact that you gave me a huge headache D1.

FoS NH

You put him at L-1, then you remove your vote? Really?

Swift, what's so suspicious about that?

Also just realized:
If that someone who can give medicine can only give it a limited number of times, then I suggest you don't use it on me as I'm just a Townie anyway.

Better save it for a power role just in case.

VOTE STATUS

UnderminE (3) - Swiftwolf Yellowtail, Rantai, DeathxShinigami

Not voting (6) - NoHItter, 0_o, UnderminE, pieguy1372, bmin11, Lybydose

NoHItter wrote:

Swift, what's so suspicious about that?

It's not necessarily a scumtell, however, the Stallin' Defense points out that stalling a major wagon that can easily lead to a lynch is suspicious.

Swiftwolf Yellowtail wrote:

NoHItter wrote:

Swift, what's so suspicious about that?

It's not necessarily a scumtell, however, the Stallin' Defense points out that stalling a major wagon that can easily lead to a lynch is suspicious.

EDIT: Further investigation has indicated to Tarhalindur that this is a null tell and should not be trusted.

RIGHT BELOW THE DEFINITION

I did. That's why I said "suspicious", not "scummy".

..Also, I said it's "not necessarily a scumtell".


I do believe you need to reread my post again, faceman.

I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT SUSPICIOUS AND SCUMMY WERE SYNONYMS.

If they were, then why would I contradict myself?

"NOT NECESSARILY" IMPLIES THAT IT'S NOT ALWAYS THE CASE, THEREFORE IT WOULDN'T BE A CONTRADICTION.

IT'S NOT WORTH ARGUING ABOUT THOUGH, MY POINT IS THAT TAKING PRECAUTIONS TO NOT END THE DAY EARLY SHOULDN'T INCREASE THE CHANCES THAT THEY'RE SCUM.

I could just check him tonight. Then again if he isn't mafia all sorts of bad things could happen, ie he gets shot.

I saw UnderminE lurking like 4 hours ago or something. I was expecting her to post a farther explanation for her role :<
I can't fully understand the role's ability soley from the name because I'm stupid.

@Swift
Do you honestly think that having someone get to L-1 that early was good for town?

You never know, NH.

Besides, I do need a mafia lynch to be able to shoot again.

Swiftwolf Yellowtail wrote:

You never know, NH.

Besides, I do need a mafia lynch to be able to shoot again.

YOU DO REALIZE THERE IS ALMOST DEFINITELY ONLY ONE MAFIA REMAINING, RIGHT?

I do realize that, faceman. But you never know. We already went past the average mafia to total player ratio, 2:9.

Swiftwolf Yellowtail wrote:

I do realize that, faceman. But you never know. We already went past the average mafia to total player ratio, 2:9.

THE FACT THAT WE SURPASSED IT MAKES IT EVEN MORE LIKELY. A 5 V 10 SETUP WOULD BE HORRIBLY UNBALANCED GIVEN THE NUMBER OF NEGATIVE UTILITY ROLES.

Then again we also have mafia killing themselves.

Unless the mafia shooting each other is equiv to 2 mafia families (with 2/3 members each?). Oh god.

DID NOBODY READ THE STORY?

According to the papers, Quaraezha and IppE were freshly recruited members but IppE wasn’t allowed to use a handgun unless he was told so. Extremely bad aim, this could explain why Mashley lies dead here. Seems like the people of the village get lucky for once.

IPPE PROBABLY SENT IN THE NIGHTKILL, BUT SINCE HE WAS A "TRAINEE" HE HAD A CHANCE OF HITTING SOMEONE ELSE. MY GUESS IS THAT THE PERSON WAS CHOSEN AT RANDOM AND MASHLEY JUST DREW THE SHORT STRAW.
ALSO IF THERE WERE TWO FAMILIES THE STORY PROBABLY WOULD HAVE INDICATED THAT.

Lol yes I know. First line stands.

The second part was purely poking fun at the set up.

Given this game there were probably 6 mafia

There were probably 5 especially after Lilac said we'd need good luck. Or maybe there's a SK considering two mafia actually died instead of just the one.

pieguy1372 wrote:

Given this game there were probably 6 mafia

There were probably 5 especially after Lilac said we'd need good luck. Or maybe there's a SK considering two mafia actually died instead of just the one.

Why would there be an SK? The mafia kill backfired, Swiftwolf killed the other, and Wojjan got drunk and killed himself and Luna. Where does the SK fit in this equation? Unless you're implying that Swiftwolf is the SK.

Oh oops, never mind. I'm really tired, sorry

pieguy1372 wrote:

There were probably 5 especially after Lilac said we'd need good luck.

I THINK "GOOD LUCK" WAS REFERRING TO THE BUS DRIVER THAT KILLS PEOPLE, THE JACK-OF-ALL-EVERYTHING THAT KILLS ITSELF, A COP THAT MAY OR MAY NOT DO ANYTHING, TWO POST-RESTRICTED TOWNIES WHO FACE MODKILL UPON SCREWING UP....

YEAH

At least we have a normal doctor.

I hope.

Wait a minute...
A normal doctor does seem odd counting the fact that every other role except Townies had some other aspect to it.

Apart from failing what would you expect the doc to have as a modifier? If the doctor can potentially kill the target then that is completely throwing out the reason a doctor exists.

Then again given that we have a role that commits suicide, mafia that can kill each other and a bus driver (admittedly a drunk driver killing makes perfect sense) it might be possible. But the problem is that DxS has had no counterclaim and if he is town would have absolutely no reason to lie and I doubt this game is going without some sort of doctor.

Could be a Quack Doctor. His protections do nothing.

Yeah that's the failing part.

But that would mean we have no doc which is borderline silly considering we had 4 freaking night deaths. A partial quack makes more sense but why would DxS withhold that info?

- Yes, unless he's mafia etc etc meaning we have no doctor on town which is borderline.... yeah you see where this is going.

For all I know my lazy could mean - I am too lazy to do the detective work so I just shoot them instead to save me time and to get back to my doughnuts. (No this is not what my PM says, this is speculation for those of you who would think otherwise)

Meaning another kill out there.

..of course, we both shot the same person, so it doesn't make much sense to have any sort of "double death" or whatever.

Also, there could be a multitude of possibilities for the doctor. Quack is one of them.

I can't think of a single one where it would be aligned town and needed to be concealed.

So are we done with UnderminE? I still don't get her role tbh

WHATEVER, LET'S JUST GET THIS GAME OVER WITH

Vote UnderminE

IF SHE FLIPS TOWN I THINK WE SHOULD LYNCH LYBY TOMORROW.

IF RANTAI'S RESULTS DON'T CONFLICT, AT LEAST.

Guess I hammer then.
Vote: UnderminE

Also reminder to whoever has that medicine for AIDS.
I'm just a regular Townie, so it's fine if you don't use it on me if the medicine has a limited use.
I'd prefer it if you saved it for when a PR gets infected, but you can still use it on me if you wish.

This wouldn't be surprising if I don't get a mafia lynch.

If you do and the game hasn't ended you better not shoot who I investigate again.

Chances of us hitting the same person are slim, though.

Yet it happened first night where we had an even smaller chance xD

But no, it shouldn't happen.

Lynch done. You'll gete fsdhifuhsdguhsdaiogfhdi9fhdjiofhdufsa soon.

EDITafter4hours: And that will come once we both (me & FisHie) are awake.

The village is silent. People aren’t really that motivated to find the mafia anymore. The atmosphere is really depressing, as if everyone was going to die. The people of the village put all the blame on one person. UnderminE. That devil tried to protect the mafia! She must be part of it too! Just when NoHItter tries to tackle UnderminE, a helicopter appears above the village. It lands near the village center and as people gather around it, a mysterious man in a black suit steps out. He looks like some sort of agent, what is he doing here?

This mysterious man walks over to UnderminE and asks: “Why did you shoot that technician?” UnderminE just shrugs and mutters something inaudible. Nobody has any idea about what is going on. Suddenly the man pulls UnderminE’s coat off, revealing a bomb vest! “Oh my god, JC, a bomb!” the terrified suit man says and UnderminE yells back “A BOMB!” She dashes towards NoHItter whi-

A big explosion is heard.

UnderminE (JC Denton) - D2 (Lynch)

There are body pieces everywhere. UnderminE’s house was searched and the closets were filled with sunglasses and some papers classified as “top secret”. It seems that UnderminE was a secret agent. UNATCO and NSF were too much of a nuisance to her, now she will finally be at peace. NoHItter died in the explosion too, people tried to search his house, but nobody knows where he lived. A document is found on the ground, which states that NoHItter had AIDS. It seems that he was telling the truth, what a terrible fate.

NoHItter (The Guy Who Forgot Condoms) - D2 (Explosion)

And of course, the mysterious man died. But nobody cares.

Mysterious Man (Pilot) - D2 (Explosion)

The night is starting soon. Brace yourselves, nobody will be safe.

The day is here. WAKE UP.

As the remaining people of this village wake up you come to realise that there are two bodies now. Significantly less than yesterday, however it seems that those deaths didn’t seem right...

The first body you come across is one that seems familiar to you. It’s the Saboteur, a shifty person but nonetheless, did not have anything on them that lead them to be Mafia. His cause of death seemed to be some shoddy medicine, both expired and not even for preventing death, does that mean someone with medical supplies killed him? Prepostreous! Even still, you all decided to check his house just in case he actually was linked to Mafia. However, what you found there was something odd.

Pictures of three people were hung up all over the house with various Xs crossed around them, obviously he wanted these three people lynched. The first face you recognised was Mashley, the Mafia stalker. Of course anyone would want him lynched if they knew, the fact is he died from being shot by his own mafia buddy.

The second person was Wojjan, the drunk bus driver. It seems this person knew that if Wojjan tried to bus drive, he’d kill the people he did it to. You’re beginning to suspect this guy isn’t Mafia at all.

The third person...from the looks of it, appears to be DxS. Why would he want to lynch DxS? It seemed like he even had medical tools with him plus, haven’t they been the best of friends? This prompted an entire search of his house from top to bottom.
After 20 minutes, you realised that you couldn’t find anything that had the mafia insignia or anything that resembles it. You’ve come to terms and realised that bmin, was town after all.

bmin11 (Saboteur) - N2 (Medicine)

The second body prompted you to recall the parts of the first. You realise then that this corpse belongs to DeathxShinigami. The possible doctor that bmin first wanted to get lynched. However, he died from a bullet wound straight on the shoulder. A burst artery there can kill you within a minute of blood loss. You believed that he actually was legit and decide to give him a proper burial but without first taking his medical equipment so that you can use it on someone else...

...Until you realise that the medicine has been expired...and is only used to cure AIDS. You can’t protect anyone with this! While burying him, you threw the medicine and anything else in his grave and buried him. No wonder bmin wanted DxS dead, shoddy medicine could just be what Mafia can do to kill off players so you all ran to his house quickly to see if anything Mafia like was there.

...And once again, you come out empty-handed. Piecing these things together, you can probably assume that DxS accidentally killed bmin and someone shot DxS. Oh well!

DeathxShinigami (Horrible Doctor) - N2 (Nightkill)

With that, there are two less town but all the more chances to get Mafia so once again. It’s time to save the village!

DAY 3

Oh god, oh man, oh god, oh man, oh god! Fuck this shit, let's get to work once again.

3 votes are needed for lynch. You got seven days.

Normal he said.

NORMAL.

I am so glad I didn't get killed by the quack

Anyway I got a guilty on pieguy. That's our 4th mafia.

ARE YOU ACTUALLY SERIOUS

I am 100% serious. pieguy returned a guilty for me.

As for flavour, if DxS did protect me the other night, does that mean I had AIDS..?

pieguy you dope.

Oh right lol Vote: pieguy

ok that guy I guess

vote: pieguy

ib mafia hammer

o_O

Pieguy? Really? Then again, he's so clever, he can even act like he's pro-town 24/7.

Vote: pieguy

Rantai wrote:

I am 100% serious. pieguy returned a guilty for me.

As for flavour, if DxS did protect me the other night, does that mean I had AIDS..?

MY EXCLAMATION WAS DIRECTED AT THE GAME ITSELF

@RANTAI, EITHER THAT OR HE WAS BLUFFING TO FOOL THE MAFIA. DOESN'T REALLY MATTER NOW THOUGH.

I'D LOVE TO MAKE THIS THE QUICKEST DAY EVER, BUT LET'S WAIT FOR PIEGUY TO SHOW UP FIRST. THOUGH SEEING AS RANTAI ALREADY "LAZY" (HE APPEARS TO "NOT BOTHER" WITH AN INVESTIGATION SOMETIMES), IT WOULD BE TOO RIDICULOUS FOR HIM TO BE INSANE TOO.

UNLESS HE'S MAFIA. BUT YEAH.

UM, OK

If I am insane.

...

...

...

...

I want a doughnut.

Actually if that was a bluff then well played DxS, well played.

Might be another bastard move by the mods, you know. Salvage did kill himself even though his role PM said he had the ability to do a crapload of stuff.

Swiftwolf Yellowtail wrote:

Might be another bastard move by the mods, you know. Salvage did kill himself even though his role PM said he had the ability to do a crapload of stuff.

YEAH WE'VE ESTABLISHED THAT, BUT BEING INSANE ON TOP OF THE INVESTIGATIONS SOMETIMES NOT GOING THROUGH IS A LIIITTLE BIT MUCH.

STILL, I WOULDN'T BE SHOCKED. SURPRISED, BUT NOT SHOCKED.

My thoughts exactly.

True, Faceman, insane and sometimes get a result is a bit interesting.

..Then again, we did target the same person N1. He might be random, but that's just a dick move if that's the case.

I guess it's time to do more sanity checks.

Wow I just realised out of all the night action roles I'm the only who doesn't involve killing.

Can you imagine the death rate of N1 if all the planets aligned?

Heh. Also, I just realized that I made the hammer vote. *headdesk*

You scum, you.

Which is funny, because why would scum shoot its own allies? I can understand IppE, but that's it.

Because clearly I shot him from my investigation!

Lol.

Now I can tell you're really being sarcastic.

Still, though, I kinda doubt you'd shoot him. That'd mean EVERYONE had some sort of way to kill/die.

:3

Yeah I doubt I can kill, it doesn't seem to fit with the flavour of my PM.

And things like Drunk, Horrible (yeah, this one especially) and Trainee all make sense for casualties. Lazy, not so much.

Rantai wrote:

Lazy, not so much.

"HMM I COULD DO SOME DETECTIVE WORK AND FIND OUT IF THIS GUY'S ACTUALLY GUILTY... OR I COULD SAVE SOME TIME AND SHOOT THE BASTARD."

Hey, that's plagiarism.

It might be worth mentioning that I won my battle with laziness and got off my ass.

Don't mod kill me please

“He is guilty!” Rantai points at pieguy, who just sits silently on his couch. He whispers something about “killing everyone”. Well, he is obviously mafia. He is then dragged to the village center and hanged. “Look everyone, he is a m-” He doesn’t have any weapons with him. The people of the village run over to pieguy’s house to search for weapons, but they find none.The only thing that they find is a big pile of needles and syringes. It seems that pieguy was just a delusional drug addict.

pieguy1372 (Drug Addict) - D3 (Lynch)

Another miss. What will happen to the village now?

You stopped procrastinating, eh? That didn't take long.

Requesting a shorter night if possible.

(Ie 24 hours)

The remaining four residents of the village finally wake up and meet at the village center.
Except... There’s only three of them, where’s Lybydose!? A quick search takes place and Lybydose is found inside his house with a hole between his eyes, surrounded by mannequins. Rest in peace. It seems that he has been manufacturing these special mannequins that look exactly like him. Pretty weird... The atmosphere has become tense. Only three people are left alive.

Lybydose (Crafty Townie) - N3 (Nightkilled)

DAY 4

This is getting depressing... I am not sure, if people want to work on this anymore... But they have to.

2 votes are needed for lynch. You got seven days.

ARE YOU ACTUALLY SERIOUS

Whyyyyy.

Ok any results I have are useless.

WHAT WERE YOUR "RESULTS" RANTAI

IF YOU TWO END UP VOTING FOR EACHOTHER I'M GOING TO SHOOT MYSELF. LYBY WAS THE ONLY POTENTIAL MAFIA THAT MADE SENSE.

This is going to be another kicker.

I got no result, because I checked Lybydose.

I have no freaking idea who to vote for.

I believe Swift and his vigilante role (or he is the cleverest player to date).

I have no idea about 0_o outside his all in caps lock but my gut is screaming at me to not vote.

Rantai wrote:

I believe Swift and his vigilante role (or he is the cleverest player to date).

THAT WAS CHRIS WHO CLAIMED THOUGH.

WAIT A SEC

IS IT POSSIBLE HIS ROLE COULD BE MAFIA ALIGNED? AS IN HE'S A DIRTY MAFIA WHO STEALS A GUN FROM HIS TEAMMATE AFTER LYNCHING HIM FOR AN EXTRA SHOT? IT PROBABLY WOULDN'T BE BALANCED IF HE COULD USE IT MORE THAN ONCE, BUT HE NEVER GOT THE CHANCE TO SINCE THE OTHER TWO MAFIA WERE NK'D. EVEN SO, THE LACK OF A SECOND KILL EACH NIGHT COULD BE EXPLAINED AWAY BY A DOCTOR'S PROTECTION, ROLEBLOCK, ETC.

THEN AGAIN RANTAI'S RESULTS, AND LACK OF, ARE REALLLLY CONVENIENT. HE'S THE ONLY CLAIMED COP THOUGH SO ALKSDHFADLKF

THOUGH I GUESS KILLING IPPE WOULD BE A PRETTY BALLSY MOVE FOR A MAFIA.. IT WOULD DEFINITELY HELP SOLIDIFY HIS STORY, BUT AGAIN, BALLSY.

SWIIIIIIFT

I thought of that too, I'm reading back through the whole thread at the moment.

- From what I gather you were the first to actually claim a restriction, giving me the most confidence in your claim.

- Swift has had a track record of choosing the exact same target as me. But did prove the part of his role.

Hold on he did use that exact story to defend himself against my sarcastic accusation (why would I shoot mafia). Ugh.

But yeah on the topic of killing, it is possible that he is a mafia. Recall the flavour of IppE's death. He was a newbie, along with Q.... I SMELL A 2 FACTION MAFIA.

I KNOW I DISAGREED WITH THE 2-FACTION IDEA BEFORE, BUT HONESTLY, RIGHT NOW THAT REALLY DOES SEEM LIKE THE ONLY SOLUTION THAT MAKES ANY SENSE.

YOU KNOW WHAT

VOTE SWIFT

I CAN'T SEE MARA/FISHIE NOT INCLUDING A COP IN THIS GAME (A NON-SANE COP WOULD PRETTY MUCH BE A STAPLE IN A GAME LIKE THIS), AND NOW THAT THERE ARE ACTUALLY ALTERNATIVE EXPLANATIONS TO SWIFT'S CLAIM THEN I'M WILLING TO GO ALL-IN. IF I'M WRONG THEN GG RANTAI AND SCREW YOU MARA <3

To clarify, I put forward the hypothesis that the mafia was segregated into to factions. The 'Old mafia" and the "New mafia".

Considering the absolute crazy ride this game is;

Town has;

Bus driver (2 town kills)
Schizophrenia guy (1 town kill)
Horrible Doctor (1 town kill)
Condom guy (1 town death?)
An insane/random/paranoid/lazy Cop (no deaths here but completely useless)
A drug addict (effect unknown)
2 towns with post restrictions (not significant in terms of balance)

3 neutrals (blue)

JC denton - a bomb? - (1 town kill) (NoHItter was hammer, makes sense here)
A lyncher
Crafty townie (wtf is that?)

So town have 4/5 ways of killing themselves in the worst case scenario.
Add on an extra bomb and that gives a total of 6 potential self kills (mafia unlikely to hammer)

15 players. 4 mafia. 3 neutral. 8 town, 6 of which can die to non mafia causes.

It makes sense that the mafia would have problems of their own, the two faction mafia seems entirely plausible from my PoV.

Vote: Swift

If you are the mafia, 0_o, I am going to find you in real life.