Hope they do the 8 groups thing.
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#2 osu! World Cup (Team vs) [Korea wins]
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This thread is going places. Soon I will post my Vatican Team group 
oh...wait.
oh...wait.
Wishy22 isn't discussion ended?
and...
I think thay was best some times ago, but not now.. look at their "Historical Statistics"
and...
I think thay was best some times ago, but not now.. look at their "Historical Statistics"
man this is not fairWishy22 wrote:
He doesn't want to play or something. :culjjang wrote:
lolwut?! where is cookie
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Just want to inform our dear staff, that we've created topic about tournament. Topic will last for 10 days and for that period we'll listen all complaints and will make a final decision in the end. Satisfied?
Just want to inform our dear staff, that we've created topic about tournament. Topic will last for 10 days and for that period we'll listen all complaints and will make a final decision in the end. Satisfied?
Topic Starter
There will be 8 groups with 4 teams each.YodaSnipe wrote:
Anywayssss. Has there been any decision on the tournament style like swiss pairing, round robin, double elimination, etc, etc?
Wonderful.gorlum wrote:
http://osu.ppy.sh/forum/viewtopic.php?f=35&t=65837&p=1106831#p1106831
Just want to inform our dear staff, that we've created topic about tournament. Topic will last for 10 days and for that period we'll listen all complaints and will make a final decision in the end. Satisfied?
8 groups of 4. OK, so how is every match setup then? Does every team face every team, orrr, wut 
Topic Starter
All teams face each other. Already listed in the rules. No double elimination.YodaSnipe wrote:
8 groups of 4. OK, so how is every match setup then? Does every team face every team, orrr, wut
i'd like to see Canada in this tournament, i'll put myself as captain for now until we find a full team, as of now i havent had the chance to speak to all my fellow canadians;
Country name: Canada
Captain: Soulclenz
Player1: YodaSnipe <--- unconfirmed
Player2: Silentwings <---- unconfirmed
Player3: FurukawaPan <--- unconfirmed
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Back-up Player1:
Back-up Player2:
i will be talking to players throughout the day to see who is actually playing.
Country name: Canada
Captain: Soulclenz
Player1: YodaSnipe <--- unconfirmed
Player2: Silentwings <---- unconfirmed
Player3: FurukawaPan <--- unconfirmed
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Back-up Player1:
Back-up Player2:
i will be talking to players throughout the day to see who is actually playing.
fabulous FINLAND 
Captain: ragelewa
Player 1: Zapy
Player 2: Orkel
Player 3: Sutsuka
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Back-up Player 1: heintsi
Back-up Player 2: IppE602
tsajajaja start power etc.
Captain: ragelewa
Player 1: Zapy
Player 2: Orkel
Player 3: Sutsuka
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Back-up Player 1: heintsi
Back-up Player 2: IppE602
tsajajaja start power etc.
uh, no?Wishy22 wrote:
He doesn't want to play or something. :culjjang wrote:
lolwut?! where is cookie
I haven't added Cookiezi or any other players yet simply because I haven't asked yet...
Waiting Poland and Japan player list
mizorex
Now that... uh. you know; who's going to help you on the staff, farto?
I just loled..... You know, I'm not so happy at all.Blue Dragon wrote:
Now that... uh. you know; who's going to help you on the staff, farto?
Team Republic of Korea is withdrawing from the competition for now.
wuuuhhhh
KRZY wrote:
Team Republic of Korea is withdrawing from the competition for now.
are you quit?
I approve of your avatar Apricot 
KRZY wrote:
Team Republic of Korea is withdrawing from the competition for now.
Can't wait to see Japan's line-up (and China's).
Topic Starter
That's a kind of... unexpected situation.lepidopodus wrote:
I just loled..... You know, I'm not so happy at all.Blue Dragon wrote:
Now that... uh. you know; who's going to help you on the staff, farto?
I will think what should I do now and let everyone know soon.
i think they will just wait xDWishy22 wrote:
Can't wait to see Japan's line-up (and China's).
i hope i will have the last slot of France Team.. *.* a "tournament" will be played for choose the guy who will participate :w:
atm, we don't know the fullFrance team, and the one now is "temporary". *.*
atm, we don't know the fullFrance team, and the one now is "temporary". *.*
:3.. have fun guys
why don't you recruit Sakura Hana as a new Tournament staff?fartownik wrote:
That's a kind of... unexpected situation.
I will think what should I do now and let everyone know soon.
r3yn41d0 wrote:
why don't you recruit Sakura Hana as a new Tournament staff?fartownik wrote:
That's a kind of... unexpected situation.
I will think what should I do now and let everyone know soon.
made my day
Country name:Hungary
Captain: Kuroi Mato
Player1: tasli
Player2: Kozuki Kallen
Player3: Higurush
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Back-up Player 1: TaylorXIII
Time zone: gmt+1
Edited Higurush name
Captain: Kuroi Mato
Player1: tasli
Player2: Kozuki Kallen
Player3: Higurush
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Back-up Player 1: TaylorXIII
Time zone: gmt+1
Edited Higurush name
Topic locked huehuehuehueKRZY wrote:
r3yn41d0 wrote:
why don't you recruit Sakura Hana as a new Tournament staff?
made my day
Propably because farto's not a masochist, mate.r3yn41d0 wrote:
why don't you recruit Sakura Hana as a new Tournament staff?fartownik wrote:
That's a kind of... unexpected situation.
I will think what should I do now and let everyone know soon.
Topic Starter
NatsumeRin has been added to the staff as the 2nd main organizer for now.
Rest of the staff will be listed very soon.
Rest of the staff will be listed very soon.
Okay. Sweden is now done.
Sweden
Captain: theowest
Player1: Holmir
Player2: Hanyuu-chan
Player3: Gyuunyu
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Back-up Player1: <strong>m4w11</strong>
Back-up Player2: failboat
Time-Zone: GMT+1
Captain: theowest
Player1: Holmir
Player2: Hanyuu-chan
Player3: Gyuunyu
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Back-up Player1: <strong>m4w11</strong>
Back-up Player2: failboat
Time-Zone: GMT+1
Topic Starter
Poland
Captain: fartownik
Player1: White Wolf
Player2: Niko-
Player3: Kubu
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Back-up Player1: evol
Back-up Player2
Time zone: GMT+1
Not official outline yet.
Captain: fartownik
Player1: White Wolf
Player2: Niko-
Player3: Kubu
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Back-up Player1: evol
Back-up Player2
Time zone: GMT+1
Not official outline yet.
I won't be able to participate in the owc. >< France will need a second back-up.
We'll see the results of the tournament =p
We'll see the results of the tournament =p
dat polando timu is veri kowai! DXfartownik wrote:
Poland
Captain: fartownik
Player1: White Wolf
Player2: Niko-
Player3: Kubu
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Back-up Player1: evol
Back-up Player2
Time zone: GMT+1
Not official outline yet.
Wolfy go go <3~Metro wrote:
dat polando timu is veri kowai! DXfartownik wrote:
Poland
Captain: fartownik
Player1: White Wolf
Player2: Niko-
Player3: Kubu
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Back-up Player1: evol
Back-up Player2
Time zone: GMT+1
Not official outline yet.
poland wins <3
fartownik wrote:
the second official osu! World Cup Tournament organized by me and Lunah.
Dat irony!Apricot wrote:
Topic Starter
Already been said who replaces him, just forgotten to edit the post in that place.Vext wrote:
fartownik wrote:
the second official osu! World Cup Tournament organized by me and Lunah.Dat irony!Apricot wrote:
Lunah was banned wtf??Vext wrote:
fartownik wrote:
the second official osu! World Cup Tournament organized by me and Lunah.Dat irony!Apricot wrote:
No shaggon in poland? o_O
OK
OK
Already polish team is strong.
Topic Starter
No GladiOol in Netherlands? o_OGladiOol wrote:
No shaggon in poland? o_O
OK
OKEY
fartownik wrote:
Poland
Captain: fartownik
Player1: White Wolf
Player2: Niko-
Player3: Kubu
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Back-up Player1: evol
Back-up Player2
Time zone: GMT+1
Not official outline yet.
yoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
maal
to be honest, i would say that the 'host' can't be able to participate in the world cup. not stating that you're going to cheat, but it just seems unfair.. is this only my opinion?fartownik wrote:
Poland
Captain: fartownik
Player1: White Wolf
Player2: Niko-
Player3: Kubu
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Back-up Player1: evol
Back-up Player2
Time zone: GMT+1
Not official outline yet.
How would he cheat? How would he twist anything? It won't be only him organizing this.Emaal wrote:
to be honest, i would say that the 'host' can't be able to participate in the world cup. not stating that you're going to cheat, but it just seems unfair.. is this only my opinion?fartownik wrote:
Poland
Captain: fartownik
Player1: White Wolf
Player2: Niko-
Player3: Kubu
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Back-up Player1: evol
Back-up Player2
Time zone: GMT+1
Not official outline yet.
You should be thankful that he's willing to host owc.
maal
What would make it unfair?Emaal wrote:
to be honest, i would say that the 'host' can't be able to participate in the world cup. not stating that you're going to cheat, but it just seems unfair.. is this only my opinion?fartownik wrote:
Poland
Captain: fartownik
Player1: White Wolf
Player2: Niko-
Player3: Kubu
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Back-up Player1: evol
Back-up Player2
Time zone: GMT+1
Not official outline yet.
maal
I'll probably join~ we're still discussing line-up atm and trying to get some old timers to play more.fartownik wrote:
No GladiOol in Netherlands? o_OGladiOol wrote:
No shaggon in poland? o_O
OK
OKEY
Lunah participated in the previous world cup.Emaal wrote:
again, i didn't say he would cheat, or do anything wrong; but this is the first time, I see a host participate in what he/she is hosting.
GladiOol wrote:
I'll probably join~ we're still discussing line-up atm and trying to get some old timers to play more.
Please get glasjuh to play again~
maal
Topic Starter
God, you guys seriously have problems with everything.
I don't choose maps for the tournament, I record the group drawing, I don't favor my country because I'm not even able to.
I don't choose maps for the tournament, I record the group drawing, I don't favor my country because I'm not even able to.
Just because they question stuff doesn't mean they make problems out of it.fartownik wrote:
God, you guys seriously have problems with everything.
I don't choose maps for the tournament, I record the group drawing, I don't favor my country because I'm not even able to.
Guess what we are trying to haha~ we have to get lesjuh back on ze tablet \:D/KRZY wrote:
GladiOol wrote:
I'll probably join~ we're still discussing line-up atm and trying to get some old timers to play more.
Please get glasjuh to play again~
I guess if someone has a problem with this cup then that person shouldn't simply participate = problem solved.
If someone feels it is unbalanced/cheated/fail/w.e then just don't play and be happy
Not that everyone is forced to participate.
If someone feels it is unbalanced/cheated/fail/w.e then just don't play and be happy
Not that everyone is forced to participate.finally got response from all top latvian players
Latvia
Captain: _Angel
Player1: GummyChan
Player2: LoGo
Player3: *awaiting response from Vmx*
Latvia
Captain: _Angel
Player1: GummyChan
Player2: LoGo
Player3: *awaiting response from Vmx*
fartownik I just found out something that should be addressed in this owc:
http://osu.ppy.sh/mp/494834 this is the MP history for the owc #1 final. It is now listed as too old. Either peppy fixes it for all owc matches or tournament staff can take screenshots of every MP history..
http://osu.ppy.sh/mp/494834 this is the MP history for the owc #1 final. It is now listed as too old. Either peppy fixes it for all owc matches or tournament staff can take screenshots of every MP history.
.^ Seconded. I was browsing the owc #1 matches too last week and failed to view the match histories
mizorex
ok. change to the New Zealand line up
Captain: jiantz
Player1: kiiwa
Player2: Numot123
Player3: bob_the_cat
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Backup1: deadbeat(i'll also be doing captain stuff as well if allowable)
backup2: kwk
GMT+13 still :p
Captain: jiantz
Player1: kiiwa
Player2: Numot123
Player3: bob_the_cat
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Backup1: deadbeat(i'll also be doing captain stuff as well if allowable)
backup2: kwk
GMT+13 still :p
When is the first match? What days?
Another important thing.
In the previous owc, great dispute ensued the semi-final match between Korea and Taiwan because it was unclear as to which result was the final result, the scores from the multiplayer screen or the scores from the MP history page. This comes down to whether we count scores by failed players or not. Personally I think we should also count failed scores, but this is up to the staff and should be decided/announced in public before the tournament starts.fartownik wrote:
7. The country with best total score on the map wins.
JesusYamato kindly accepted our invitation, so this is final setup of our team:
Ukraine
Captain: gorlum
Player1: rockleejkooo
Player2: uljjang
Player3:JesusYamato
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Back-up Player1: none
Back-up Player2: none
If failed scores will be counted too, make it 0.5x.KRZY wrote:
Personally I think we should also count failed scores
But I think it'll be easier just to see the winner ingame immediately lol.
I believe we shouldn't count failed scores at all.
In my opinion this owc must not make the same mistakes as the previous one where marathons and stupid long maps were picked. Picked maps should be FC'eable by most of the players so if someone fails them their score shouldn't be counted.
If this is not accepted then I agree with xsrsbsns about counting them as 0,5x.
In my opinion this owc must not make the same mistakes as the previous one where marathons and stupid long maps were picked. Picked maps should be FC'eable by most of the players so if someone fails them their score shouldn't be counted.
If this is not accepted then I agree with xsrsbsns about counting them as 0,5x.
I think failed scores should count. Really, if you fail because of lag/hardware malfunction or something similar, why should your score be ignored?
And if you fail a map you should usually pass, your score will already likely be lower than your opponent's.
And if you fail a map you should usually pass, your score will already likely be lower than your opponent's.
So when a player is nervous and makes a huge fuck up we will have to think it's because of lag/hardware malfunction?Luna wrote:
I think failed scores should count. Really, if you fail because of lag/hardware malfunction or something similar, why should your score be ignored?
And if you fail a map you should usually pass, your score will already likely be lower than your opponent's.
We should play with no fail on then.
Also JesusYamato in Ukraine is bullshit. Playing in a different country makes him a mercenary and this is supposed to be a World Cup.
No, if he is nervous and makes a huge fuck-up his score will already be pretty bad. Why remove that?
So if he's fullcombo and fucks up right in the last notes he will have more score than someone who didn't make a good combo but didn't lose? Multiplayer ranks non-failed players and failed players in different categories and I think that's how this should be. In this case either don't count that player score or count it as 0,5x.Luna wrote:
No, if he is nervous and makes a huge fuck-up his score will already be pretty bad. Why remove that?
Yeah, except Cookiezi in the last OWC, despite failing from a hardware malfunction, had more score than I believe the top two players on the other team combined about half-way through the final map. I still think Korea should have won that match.Metro wrote:
So if he's fullcombo and fucks up right in the last notes he will have more score than someone who didn't make a good combo but didn't lose? Multiplayer ranks non-failed players and failed players in different categories and I think that's how this should be. In this case either don't count that player score or count it as 0,5x.Luna wrote:
No, if he is nervous and makes a huge fuck-up his score will already be pretty bad. Why remove that?
Me too because rules were unclear but we have time now to make clear rules.Kyou-kun wrote:
Yeah, except Cookiezi in the last OWC, despite failing from a hardware malfunction, had more score than I believe the top two players on the other team combined about half-way through the final map. I still think Korea should have won that match.
Metro wrote:
Also JesusYamato in Ukraine is bullshit. Playing in a different country makes him a mercenary and this is supposed to be a World Cup.
Mmkay.
I'm not talking about players of different countries playing for a certain country. This is about a player who played for France last year now playing for Ukraine. Makes me wonder about what country will he play in next year and wether this is a world cup or just another tournament.gorlum wrote:
Metro wrote:
Also JesusYamato in Ukraine is bullshit. Playing in a different country makes him a mercenary and this is supposed to be a World Cup.
Mmkay.
Bro, you have enough active players for your country. Unfortunately not every country capable of creating own team, but everyone wants to play. Don't you think that your opinion is a little bit selfish?Metro wrote:
I'm not talking about players of different countries playing for a certain country. This is about a player who played for France last year now playing for Ukraine. Makes me wonder about what country will he play in next year and wether this is a world cup or just another tournament.
This is not about my opinion. It's about what's right and wrong for a world cup and a player switching COUNTRIES is wrong.gorlum wrote:
Bro, you have enough active players for your country. Unfortunately not every country capable of creating own team, but everyone wants to play. Don't you think that your opinion is a little bit selfish?Metro wrote:
I'm not talking about players of different countries playing for a certain country. This is about a player who played for France last year now playing for Ukraine. Makes me wonder about what country will he play in next year and wether this is a world cup or just another tournament.
Waryas
I'm with Metro here. San Marino does not team up with Malta to play in the Euro. Andryi Shevchenko did not play for Russia because he wanted to play in the World Cup; neither did Goran Pandev or Ryan Giggs. Helll, Ukraine even qualified for the World Cup in 2006, you should know that cuz it's your own country.
I think we should be very strict about not allowing the formation of multinational teams. Every country can find four players. EVERY COUNTRY CAN.
Final decision, of course, is up to the staff.
I think we should be very strict about not allowing the formation of multinational teams. Every country can find four players. EVERY COUNTRY CAN.
Final decision, of course, is up to the staff.
gorlum, are you serious? In Argentina we are all just decent players, none of us is like WOW PRO or anything like that, our 2 back-up players aren't even good (I'm not being offensive or anything, we all know each other and stuff) but we gonna play with them because THIS IS A WORLD CUP WHERE YOU PLAY WITH PEOPLE FROM YOUR COUNTRY.
I'll gladly go make a team with Yamato and some other friends I got In-game that can't really handle making a team on their own country because most players there not that good (I mean I'd really like to). But suck it up that's how World Cup is supposed to be. You play with your country and that's it. There may be exceptions like Belgium joining France since they even speak the same language, maybe two south american countries merging together because they got really a small userbase, but this is just ridiculous.
I'll gladly go make a team with Yamato and some other friends I got In-game that can't really handle making a team on their own country because most players there not that good (I mean I'd really like to). But suck it up that's how World Cup is supposed to be. You play with your country and that's it. There may be exceptions like Belgium joining France since they even speak the same language, maybe two south american countries merging together because they got really a small userbase, but this is just ridiculous.
How come?JesusYamato wrote:
Huh i was kidding btw lol i'm not participating in this owc as i'm not an active player anymore.
Sorry for confusion.
Man you're just...meh.
Now we ended up with only 3 players again, and i'm don't know what to do...
I'll just keep on searching in other countries, i guess.
Waryas
I'm moving to Belgium next week with Metro and Ever17 wanna make a team?
First read this:gorlum wrote:
Now we ended up with only 3 players again, and i'm don't know what to do...
I'll just keep on searching in other countries, i guess.
STOP LOOKING FOR PEOPLE FROM OTHER COUNTRIES. The ONLY place you need to look at is this: http://osu.ppy.sh/p/playerranking?c=UAKRZY wrote:
I'm with Metro here. San Marino does not team up with Malta to play in the Euro. Andryi Shevchenko did not play for Russia because he wanted to play in the World Cup; neither did Goran Pandev or Ryan Giggs. Helll, Ukraine even qualified for the World Cup in 2006, you should know that cuz it's your own country.
I think we should be very strict about not allowing the formation of multinational teams. Every country can find four players. EVERY COUNTRY CAN.
Final decision, of course, is up to the staff.
I'll say this to you but also to anyone else who wants players from another country. Read KRZY's post and understand that this is a WORLD CUP. This is not your regular tournament where you look for the best players to play with. Simply play with your countrymen because you are representing your country.
Lol I mean seriously if you gotta play with someone that can barely FC Insanes just deal with it. Really we could all just pick up the best two players from our countries and get some japanese players, since their top 40 players is all made of top tier players that can play any mod with stupidly high accuracy and pretty much no misses at all playing nomod... but wait hehe this is a World Cup. :s
Topic Starter
Gorlum, you again misunderstood. You can't pick up a random player from a country that has nothing to deal with yours. You can't also take a player just because your players are to weak to participate. JesusYamato was able to play for France because he's 'almost' french. He speaks French like he's French and he belongs to the French community. As I said, it's all case-related. You have enough players to easily form a team from Ukraine. Latvia did, you can too.
Edit: Also about counting failed scores - they won't be counted. Might be a little unfair for players with shitty hardware, but counting them would cause unwanted rumble. The MP history doesn't show if the player failed or not, still there's not place in the room for an additional judge to keep it all just. This also breaks 0,5x score counting plan too. This is an official decision and please don't mention this topic anymore.
Edit: Also about counting failed scores - they won't be counted. Might be a little unfair for players with shitty hardware, but counting them would cause unwanted rumble. The MP history doesn't show if the player failed or not, still there's not place in the room for an additional judge to keep it all just. This also breaks 0,5x score counting plan too. This is an official decision and please don't mention this topic anymore.
It's not like I want to discuss anything, but it really doesn't depend on what hardware you have, my PC is good enough to run this game and I get random lags, Metro has the exact same problem and his PC is way better than mine iirc. Doesn't really matter what PC you have the game just has random spikes for some reason I don't really know.
farto already explained it. We'll try to choose maps carefully and avoid using maps with too high HP drain. It seems you won't fail because of a random lag (1~3 miss maybe). And if it's not a hardware problem, it's probably very fair to all players. = =
Nah I know but you'll eventually play some maps where getting a lag will make you lose. If you end up using what I suggested to farto about using HR and DT in some maps (like DT, HR, nomod, nomod, nomod) after the group phase, then yeah a random lag will make you fail no matter what you do.
I just hate leaving stuff to luck. :p
I just hate leaving stuff to luck. :p
metro do you broadcast in Justin.tv or in ustream.com?fartownik wrote:
» Current staff:
Main organizers:fartownik (judging)
NatsumeRin (judging, map choosing)
Judges and map choosing:SapphireGhost (judging, map choosing)
Alace (judging, map choosing)
jericho2442 (judging, map choosing)
Metro (judging, streaming matches & coverages)
» Important rule changes between 1st and 2nd edition:
1. 3 maps won by one of the teams gives them a match win. Not 2 maps like it was in the 1st edition.
2. The final maps will be choosen more carefully this time.
3. The teams will be divided into 8 groups of 4 teams each. 2 teams with the largest amount of points passes into the next stage.
4. The additional back-up players are not necessary, but we still prefer if you have at least 1 if there's a possibility.
5. Timezone needed in the post of team sign-up.
If you have any questions/suggestions, feel free to ask in this thread or pm me or Lunah directly.
btw fartownik
erase lunah and change to "pm me or other staff"
Having 3 players is no problem. Just look at the owc #1 final o/ Also, I don't think this is the place to discuss that~
We played 2v4 and almost won so stop crying. :s
None. http://www.own3d.tv/MetroAR.r3yn41d0 wrote:
metro do you broadcast in Justin.tv or in ustream.com?
I hope it is ok if Cookiezi, Whitewolf and Flute join the German team xD
Man, I love such discussions xD Irony ftw
Man, I love such discussions xD Irony ftw