how is he bound to die? he isn't even close to being lynched and we have more than enough time left for him not to be the majority
I thank you for your noble sacrifice
I thank you for your noble sacrifice
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Okay, get serious. He has 6 votes with 24 hours remaining in the day. Only like 7 different people have posted in the last 24 hours, let alone voted. You are suggesting he is not most likely to be lynched? You should know better.
What Wojjan said is very true, however one thing that was not mentioned: When you're about to be nightkilled, and you possess a powerrole, fucking tell us. This is something that KRZY, as a new player, may not have known. I bit on the line that he has cast, and I'm giving him a chance to prove himself as town before it's too late. If you weren't so egotistical, you will realize that your vote for me was hasty, and you'd revoke it. You know just as well as I do that there is 0 reason for me to make the move that I did had I been mafia, before I WIFOM'd the shit out of it now.Wojjan wrote:
People who roleclaim shouldn't do so unless they can find a way to work around getting nightkilled.
it's easy to say you wouldn't do it as mafia, but really doing bold things like that is the perfect way to be mafia, since it's so bold you "couldn't" be
the fact is you are acting just like foulcoon did in wwg, and he was a wolf
it's remarkable
the fact is you are acting just like foulcoon did in wwg, and he was a wolf
it's remarkable
Well that's weird, just a few minutes ago you insulted my play, thus concluding I'm mafia. Now you're saying if I made that move as mafia, it'd be "bold" and playing perfectly.
You're the one with holes in your story. Looking forward to seeing what happens to Mashley D2 ^__^
You're the one with holes in your story. Looking forward to seeing what happens to Mashley D2 ^__^
I'm saying it's such a mafia move that it becomes town, which is a good move to make if you're mafia. I'm not sure why you didn't notice the fact that KRZY got votes on him for doing the exact same thing, sans voting for me. Maybe because you aren't checking posts as thoroughly, I mean you don't have to if you know who the mafia are.
Please autograph that picture for me once you're done scumpainting.
What I did is nowhere near comparable to what KRZY did. He blatantly asked anybody to roleclaim when there was no reason to, in an attempt to spark discussion. He obviously did not realize that doing so is basically asking for lynch votes, hence it's more of a mistake than scummy behavior. What I did was ask KRZY to roleclaim once he was placed on death row, informing him that it is the only way to save himself at this point in time. I also support my reasoning with his semi-textwall, as it did not appear to be horribly scummy from my perspective. Generally in PyP games, especially one based on touhou, it is unlikely for many vanilla roles to be floating around. It is very possible that KRZY possesses a role that will be valuable to town later in the game.
I'm not eliminating the chance that KRZY is mafia, I'm simply giving him an opportunity to defend himself.
What I did is nowhere near comparable to what KRZY did. He blatantly asked anybody to roleclaim when there was no reason to, in an attempt to spark discussion. He obviously did not realize that doing so is basically asking for lynch votes, hence it's more of a mistake than scummy behavior. What I did was ask KRZY to roleclaim once he was placed on death row, informing him that it is the only way to save himself at this point in time. I also support my reasoning with his semi-textwall, as it did not appear to be horribly scummy from my perspective. Generally in PyP games, especially one based on touhou, it is unlikely for many vanilla roles to be floating around. It is very possible that KRZY possesses a role that will be valuable to town later in the game.
I'm not eliminating the chance that KRZY is mafia, I'm simply giving him an opportunity to defend himself.
My view of what just happened: Two's being stupid assuming he's town (which will be proven or not tonight), Rolled told a new player to claim before they get lynched since the thread is going slow and we're getting close to deadline. There's absolutely nothing scummy about that since it doesn't seem that votes are going to be changed at all.
Under some personal mooting and Rolled's advice...
Roleclaim: voyeur
Yes I can choose a person each night and see what actions were done to him/her.
is mooting even a good word
Roleclaim: voyeur
Yes I can choose a person each night and see what actions were done to him/her.
is mooting even a good word
unvote
KRZY watch Two tonight
KRZY watch Two tonight
What Touhou character came equipped with voyeur role?
Not that I know shit about touhou.
Not that I know shit about touhou.
Reason #23 to play mafia: get taught English by a Korean o.OKRZY wrote:
is mooting even a good word
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About this whole Rolled business: It's doubtful both Rolled and KRZY are scum, since if that was so he could have just told him to claim through their mafia thread, there'd be no advantage in saying so privately rather than publicly. If Rolled was scum and KRZY was town, he probably wouldn't bother to try and protect KRZY. I'm thinking Rolled is town, and whatever KRZY is we shouldn't be lynching him today based on his claim.
@Lybydose- I think Two specifically stated he didn't want any aux's targeting him?
I was just going to ask that myself.Rolled wrote:
What Touhou character came equipped with voyeur role?
Not that I know shit about touhou.
he didn't want protection roles targeting him
having a voyeur watching will confirm if he was targeted by a Hider
having a voyeur watching will confirm if he was targeted by a Hider
After reading what Rolled said I think I'll unvote.
Wouldn't a watcher the right role name for such ability? and Aya seems to be the most likeliest to have such ability as well (she's a reporter).
no.
A watcher determines who (also) targeted his target. He does not learn what was done to the person
A voyeur determines what was done to his target (ie, protected or roleblocked or watched or cop investigation), but not who did it
A watcher determines who (also) targeted his target. He does not learn what was done to the person
A voyeur determines what was done to his target (ie, protected or roleblocked or watched or cop investigation), but not who did it
Oh I see. Thank you.
Did you really just give KRZY a possible character that is likely to be a voyeur? I asked KRZY to supply the character because there is a chance he's bullshitting, and the fact that he did not include a character name in his roleclaim post struck me as odd.bmin11 wrote:
Wouldn't a watcher the right role name for such ability? and Aya seems to be the most likeliest to have such ability as well (she's a reporter).
actually Two already said he was waiting for someone to counter claim Aya for a watcher ability so really he didRolled wrote:
Did you really just give KRZY a possible character that is likely to be a voyeur? I asked KRZY to supply the character because there is a chance he's bullshitting, and the fact that he did not include a character name in his roleclaim post struck me as odd.
that's 2 points deducted for not reading the thread
I read, just forgot 
Going to bed, nn~
Going to bed, nn~
KRZY, I can see you are on, how long does it take you to spell out your persona? Or are you spending the time researching the touhou wiki for an appropriate character?
Apparently he's gone now ._.
I agree that not giving a name is quite odd and I wasn't trying to hint on KRZY. I was confused with Watcher and Voyeur when I read KRZY's claim and thought he could be making it up. I realize it was quite stupid however >_>;;
u ppl gotta give a man time to shower ._.
I am Himekaido Hatate
I am Himekaido Hatate
Unvote. His last few posts are giving me enough pro-town signal
Topic Starter
Deadline is in 23:54 hours.
Votecount:
KRZY (3) - Wojjan, Mashley, Gabi
Gabi (3) - akrolsmir, Salvage, Chris
Salvage (1) - Rantai
JInxyjem (1) - 0_o
Lybydose (1) - animask
Quaraezha (1) - Rolled
Rolled (1) - Two
10 votes are required to lynch.
Votecount:
KRZY (3) - Wojjan, Mashley, Gabi
Gabi (3) - akrolsmir, Salvage, Chris
Salvage (1) - Rantai
JInxyjem (1) - 0_o
Lybydose (1) - animask
Quaraezha (1) - Rolled
Rolled (1) - Two
10 votes are required to lynch.
you mean all of thembmin11 wrote:
Unvote. His last few posts are giving me enough pro-town signal
you are clearly biased sry
All of them sounds pro-town. If that makes you feel better
you weren't even voting KRZY
I was voting Rolled and unvoted. I was referring to Rolled's posts when I said "his last few posts"
unvote, vote KRZY
I have no interest in wasting a day or more
I have no interest in wasting a day or more
Okay, whatTwo wrote:
unvote, vote KRZY
I have no interest in wasting a day or more
Explain why you are trying to kill KRZY
Hold on Two, rushing a lynch out isn't exactly in the town's best interest (a longer day has potential for more information, right?)
KRZY's story seems ok to me. I'm just concerned at how elaborate his plan was and feel rather skeptical if that really was the situation, considering he's new and w/e. The character matches up with the role though so either someone is helping him make a false claim or it's legit.
KRZY's story seems ok to me. I'm just concerned at how elaborate his plan was and feel rather skeptical if that really was the situation, considering he's new and w/e. The character matches up with the role though so either someone is helping him make a false claim or it's legit.
I'm pretty sure I won't be able to be here when day ends tomorrow, so Vote: Gabi
I have no idea why Two would want to lynch KRZY, since he would be able to confirm results with a watcher if there's one, while still having useful info, albeit less than a watcher, if there isn't one. If his results don't match up or make sense, then we'll deal with him D2.
Gabi, on the other hand, just lurks. A lot.
I have no idea why Two would want to lynch KRZY, since he would be able to confirm results with a watcher if there's one, while still having useful info, albeit less than a watcher, if there isn't one. If his results don't match up or make sense, then we'll deal with him D2.
Gabi, on the other hand, just lurks. A lot.
I don't know. The only reason I can think of Gabi joining is because of Touhou themed mafia.
Let's summarize Two's gameplay so far.Two wrote:
unvote, vote KRZY
I have no interest in wasting a day or more
- Two lies about restriction
- Two hints to the ability of his role, making it very public what his plan is, yet does not supply role name nor character for fear of giving the mafia too much information. Laughable
- Two does not appear afraid of roleblockers, Mashley's allignment, and requests nobody else targets him during the night. Regardless of his ability, I imagine factors such as these will jeopardize any scheme he could be brewing
- Attempts to lynch the one person who can validate, for the rest of town, both his and Mashley's allignment, and the plan he is forming.
- Scumpaints the shit out of me for doing something clearly not beneficial had I been mafia.
- Once that backfired, replaced his vote on KRZY, further securing his lynch D1.
FoS list:
Bmin, for hopping in Two's back pocket with no reasoning of his own.
Two, for numerous holes in his story
Mashley, just for his association with Two. Nothing terribly suspicious on his part, it's just his association with Two's shifty plan that makes me uneasy.
Everybody else.
The 3 people listed are somewhat related, so for every townie amongst them, the likelihood of another being mafia decreases. At the moment though, I feel much more comfortable voting for one of these three than lynching a lurker.
unvote. Vote: Bmin
Regarding D1 lynch i'm sticking my vote , Gabi's responses doesn't really help at all for me to change it , and about the rest there isn't much to think about for my point of view , i guess waiting for N1 results would be the best to confirm people , KRZY could also be semi-confirmed tommorrow if he shows the targets on Two , so it seems like a good choice to confirm 3 people .. if what all of them said it's true ofc.
Nothing else pops into my mind right now <.<.
Nothing else pops into my mind right now <.<.
unless you rewrote history or I have a much worse memory than I remember, I have never not been town in a game that I played with youRolled wrote:
Whether or not Mashley dies D2 is not near enough to confirm you are town in my mind. You have not been mafia for a while, and your play this game is differing from your previous games.
That does not change the fact that your play this game differs from recent others.
You're grasping. A lot.
You're grasping. A lot.
grasping at what exactly?
I don't want to waste days on a fake voyeur claim is all
I don't want to waste days on a fake voyeur claim is all
I don't think there is enough on the table to say it's a completely bogus claim, to be honest I'd rather give him a chance to prove that he is indeed a voyeur.
Also, I'm willing to bet at least one person voting the lurkers is a mafia looking for an easy vote.
/theory
/theory
One question that's keeping me from unvoting is why would a voyeur want to rolefish? As I understand it's effectively a cop anyway.
Had this been day 2 the rolefish would have made sense in relation to his role. But yeah, as far as I can tell it was out of sheer boredom (which then lead into a scheme to flush out a mafia through a bandwagon?)Lybydose wrote:
A voyeur determines what was done to his target (ie, protected or roleblocked or watched or cop investigation), but not who did it
Why would anyone still vote for someone who publicly roleclaimed an important role that can help prove what happened N1 with Two/Mashley?
That makes no sense at all.
That makes no sense at all.
My thoughts exactly.
Ah crap sorry, I misunderstood the role. Unvote, though KRZY's roleclaim is far from trustworthy. Especiallly with Rolled egging him on to do it just a few posts earlier.
Daytalk?Two wrote:
daytalk
What about it? I'm probably missing something obvious.
I'm saying I think the reason he lurked so much is because he was waiting for instructions from other mafia members.
If KRZY doesn't come back with anything on D2, then we should probably lynch him.
There's no reason to take out a possible important role if they're just bad at mafia though.
There's no reason to take out a possible important role if they're just bad at mafia though.
That's very possible. It's the one reason I'm kind of iffy about this whole thing too, the fact that he could be relaying a false claim from his mafia members.
But I'd still rather give him the chance to prove that he is what he says he is.
But I'd still rather give him the chance to prove that he is what he says he is.
Uh crap I need to sleep, early day tomorrow.
Please don't do anything hasty, hopefully everyone else will input their opinions before the day is out.
Please don't do anything hasty, hopefully everyone else will input their opinions before the day is out.
Gabi, since you are at the top of the pedestal right now and it's possible you're gonna get lynched, it's probably in your best interest to roleclaim like KRZY did
If you're an important role you shouldn't be getting lynched either, just get active please~
If you're an important role you shouldn't be getting lynched either, just get active please~
lets lay this out
1. I roleclaim watcher/aya
2. I say jk but then ask for someone to roleclaim
3. mashley readily roleclaims, which means he's either really hider or he's bad at being mafia
4. KRZY says hey more people roleclaim I'm bored LOL
5. KRZY then votes for me immediately after I call him out on it, then tries to play that off like it was some sort of mafia-baiting strategy
6. meanwhile, a bandwagon mysteriously starts on gabi
7. rolled then asks for another aux role to be claimed when we already have two exposed on day 1, you can believe his reasons or not I don't care
8. now chris is asking for another aux claim when we already have three exposed on day 1, oh and look chris is voting for gabi too
unvote, vote chris
1. I roleclaim watcher/aya
2. I say jk but then ask for someone to roleclaim
3. mashley readily roleclaims, which means he's either really hider or he's bad at being mafia
4. KRZY says hey more people roleclaim I'm bored LOL
5. KRZY then votes for me immediately after I call him out on it, then tries to play that off like it was some sort of mafia-baiting strategy
6. meanwhile, a bandwagon mysteriously starts on gabi
7. rolled then asks for another aux role to be claimed when we already have two exposed on day 1, you can believe his reasons or not I don't care
8. now chris is asking for another aux claim when we already have three exposed on day 1, oh and look chris is voting for gabi too
unvote, vote chris
The reason i haven't really posted in this topic right now is because i might have to drop out. I'm having surgery in a few days so i won't really be able to play (will be staying in the hospital for 4-5 days). Talked to Backfire and he said he might take over my spot, just waiting for confirmation from him (and pieguy, but i've already talked to pieguy).
Really sorry guys, this came pretty sudden to me aswell :/
Really sorry guys, this came pretty sudden to me aswell :/
Two, you would rather rush a lynch D1 before you give anyone time to explain themselves. KRZY got the exact same opportunity to claim, and I wanted to give Gabi the exact same opportunity. No one even bothered to ask them to roleclaim or anything, they were just happy to let them get lynched without letting them get a word in.
imo that's way worse than asking them to roleclaim when they're gonna be dead in 10 hours
The only reason you wouldn't want to claim if you were about to get lynched is if you were Mafia, or unlynchable.
l2think pls, your vote hops more than a rabbit
imo that's way worse than asking them to roleclaim when they're gonna be dead in 10 hours
The only reason you wouldn't want to claim if you were about to get lynched is if you were Mafia, or unlynchable.
l2think pls, your vote hops more than a rabbit
my vote doesn't hop
it hadn't been cast until a few posts ago
it hadn't been cast until a few posts ago
Two wrote:
I'm saying I think the reason he lurked so much is because he was waiting for instructions from other mafia members.
Someone's gotta start reading.
KRZY wrote:
I don't see why lurking all day without posting anything is suspicious. I just keep this page open all the time, that is all.
someone needs to start reading in between the lines
I'll give you a big hint: I'm saying you are lying
I'll give you a big hint: I'm saying you are lying
and I'll give you a big answer: you're wrongTwo wrote:
I'll give you a big hint: I'm saying you are lying
do I really need to point out anyone who doesn't agree with you is mafiaTwo wrote:
vote for chris then
stop trying to get a bandwagon on me thx
do you really need to post that? I don't think you ever had to worry about KRZY voting for you
no kidding, your reasoning for voting for me is retarded just like it was for voting for RolledTwo wrote:
do you really need to post that? I don't think you ever had to worry about KRZY voting for you
the fact you just automatically accept anyone who blindly follows you into your secret plan to win N1 is terrible pro-town play
you have not questioned one person who agrees with you this entire game, have you?
I'm taking that as a yes
why don't you want anyone else on you?
why don't you want anyone else on you?
why no watcher? I can understand you don't want docs on you but watcher could confirm mash.
who said no watcher
it was just a horrible move for anyone to roleclaim beyond mashley for day 1
which is why rolled and chris are bad, but chris especially
it was just a horrible move for anyone to roleclaim beyond mashley for day 1
which is why rolled and chris are bad, but chris especially
I think more people think you're bad at the moment than me or Chris.
Out of curiosity, what will be your reasoning for why Mashley dies N1?
Out of curiosity, what will be your reasoning for why Mashley dies N1?
I think more people like raywilliamjohnson than a lot of things
does that make those other things bad?
does that make those other things bad?
Two reasoning for when mashley dies will be "shit I was maf all this time shows me for making sure everyone knows this by D2."
k so no docs on Two he's a bulletproof who wants to take a hit.
k so no docs on Two he's a bulletproof who wants to take a hit.
Two wasn't aware that when hider targets mafia, hider dies.
When it was presented, he was "still, I want him to hide behind me"
Was he supposed to say "Shit, nevermind mashley don't hide behind me?"
If Two was town, I wouldn't expect him to acknowledge that part about hider's role at all, since it obviously doesn't make a difference (Yes, I consider "still" to be acknowledging). Day 2 I'm fully expecting Mashley to die, unless he's mafia alongside Two. Two fucked up asking Mashley to hide behind him, and really the best he can get out of it is 3 town kills to 1 mafia kill (mislynch D1, mashley hiding, and NK).
Or I could be entirely wrong. We'll find out D2~
When it was presented, he was "still, I want him to hide behind me"
Was he supposed to say "Shit, nevermind mashley don't hide behind me?"
If Two was town, I wouldn't expect him to acknowledge that part about hider's role at all, since it obviously doesn't make a difference (Yes, I consider "still" to be acknowledging). Day 2 I'm fully expecting Mashley to die, unless he's mafia alongside Two. Two fucked up asking Mashley to hide behind him, and really the best he can get out of it is 3 town kills to 1 mafia kill (mislynch D1, mashley hiding, and NK).
Or I could be entirely wrong. We'll find out D2~
yeah you will see day 2
with town like you and chris, who needs mafia though?
you've already outed another aux role and are working on a fourth
with town like you and chris, who needs mafia though?
you've already outed another aux role and are working on a fourth
You still tried to get someone lynched after they roleclaimed something that could prove Mashley did hide behind you N1.
I don't know how you can call anyone anti-town after that
I don't know how you can call anyone anti-town after that
Two wrote:
Yeah, I was mainly trying to have someone counterclaim Aya
Two wrote:
Vote KRZY for rolefishing
Two wrote:
Vote Rolled for rolefishing
Two wrote:
Vote Chris for rolefishing
yeah I voted for you guys since I already rolefished successfully
you don't have every aux role exposed day 1, you can't cover that many bases
you don't have every aux role exposed day 1, you can't cover that many bases
cool story bro
unvote
gonna give Gabi replacement a chance to talk if they have time
@MOD
Vote count please
gonna give Gabi replacement a chance to talk if they have time
@MOD
Vote count please
"I can't think of a rebuttal"Rolled wrote:
cool story bro
also unvote because Krzy is a watcher who should be on Two tonight.
No, I'm implying his response is nothing more than a story.
brown noser.
brown noser.
Topic Starter
Backfire replaces Gabi
Deadline is in 8:40 hours.
Votecount:
Gabi Backfire (3) - akrolsmir, Salvage, JInxyjem
KRZY (1) - Backfire
Salvage (1) - Rantai
JInxyjem (1) - Kiddo-kun
Lybydose (1) - animask
bmin11 (1) - Rolled
Chris (1) - Two
10 votes are required to lynch.
Deadline is in 8:40 hours.
Votecount:
KRZY (1) - Backfire
Salvage (1) - Rantai
JInxyjem (1) - Kiddo-kun
Lybydose (1) - animask
bmin11 (1) - Rolled
Chris (1) - Two
10 votes are required to lynch.
hi backfire~
Not voting: Lybydose, Chris, Mashley, Quaraezha, LadySuburu, Wojjan, Bmin, Raging Bull, KRZY
vote: Kiddo-kun
you have said absolutely nothing since replacing in
you have said absolutely nothing since replacing in
Hello there KRZY. Looks like im fucked. Yay. ;w; I-I didn't do anything! I swear! I blame Gabi! >:3
But seriously, Hello everyone. I would guess the reason of you all votingGabi Me was from lurking. That was just Gabi not being able to be around. Now that we've cleared that up, I can start playing. But it seems like the odds are stack against me T_T
But seriously, Hello everyone. I would guess the reason of you all voting
.vote: Quaraezha
didn't even say anything when I voted for him the first time~
didn't even say anything when I voted for him the first time~
unvote, vote Kiddo-Kun
worse than quaraezha in terms of posting lets kill them pls
worse than quaraezha in terms of posting lets kill them pls
So , is it Quaraezha or Kiddo? , Kiddo has been afk in the other game also , i don't know about Qua.
Hello Mr/Ms. Salvage.
Right, so reading through, at the moment, I will go : Unvote.
Not really any reason to suspect KRZY, at the moment.
Right, so reading through, at the moment, I will go : Unvote.
Not really any reason to suspect KRZY, at the moment.
kiddo isn't afk
he actively chooses not to participate
quaraezha does too but not as badly
he actively chooses not to participate
quaraezha does too but not as badly
Both are in the same case imo , i'd like to see both of them post , i don't even know why they apply on games like this and then lurk all the way .. i'll wait a bit to vote any of them , hopefully they'll come and say something.
you have no idea how many times I've said thatSalvage wrote:
i don't even know why they apply on games like this and then lurk
fine, day is almost over always
unvote, vote Kiddo
...I just saw the message this morning. I was at school the whole day...