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dkun
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Saturday, February 05, 2011 at 6:38:12 PM

Artist: Chris Brown
Title: Forever
BPM: 120
Filesize: 3916kb
Play Time: 02:37
Difficulties Available:
  1. Forever! (2.52 stars, 172 notes)
  2. One Night Stand! (4.99 stars, 431 notes)
  3. Taiko (4.56 stars, 815 notes)
Download: Chris Brown - Forever
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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"It's gonna be me and you on the dancefloor!"
:/

100% ~

Forever! - Normal by animelover1432.
Taiko! - Taiko by mekadon~
One Night Stand! - Hard
SB by I_Tatsuo_I!

Another grave from Gladi, currently in the progress of completely remapping.
Why must you map all the oldies and let them grave Gladi?! WHY? :(

Big thanks to Ephemeral, I_Tatsuo_I, eddieee and Zelos! :)
Zelos
General:

Try to refrain from using gray as a combo color, if someone were to play this on tag with multiple people, it would throw them off badly.

Offset: Im sure its 7266 but use Jon's if you want.

01:05:516 (8) - i like doing the kiai time fountain disable thing you did here too but you chose the most wierdest time to do it at.

01:07:516 (17) - ^^^^

Pretty much all the kiai disable fountains you did were started at an awkward time

Also i think you overmapped this a bit.

02:37:016 (1) - silence this spinner.

starrrrrgh
Topic Starter
dkun

Zelos wrote:

General:

Try to refrain from using gray as a combo color, if someone were to play this on tag with multiple people, it would throw them off badly.

Offset: Im sure its 7266 but use Jon's if you want.

01:05:516 (8) - i like doing the kiai time fountain disable thing you did here too but you chose the most wierdest time to do it at. - these were inherited from Gladi. :P i'll be changing these soon enough as soon as all diffs are done.

01:07:516 (17) - ^^^^

Pretty much all the kiai disable fountains you did were started at an awkward time

Also i think you overmapped this a bit. - It's an insane, but yeah. I get what you mean.

02:37:016 (1) - silence this spinner. - Sorry, didn't catch this! :) Fixed.

starrrrrgh
iMuffin
right onto another map lol starred~
eddieee
:) + :) = ☆
Kokizi
will be waiting for it to get ranked~~~
Senyo
YiYiYiYi!!! Star tyme :D Dkun ish awesome i r nr1 fanboy
mekadon_old
I'll guess I'll dump my diff here, just in case my hard drive crashes again: http://puu.sh/FCb
Topic Starter
dkun

mekadon wrote:

I'll guess I'll dump my diff here, just in case my hard drive crashes again: http://puu.sh/FCb
Thanks. Uploaded! :)
mekadon_old
Guess I'm done: http://puu.sh/G4W
1/8 fuck yeah~~
Shiro
IRC modded. Involved nazi spacing fixes and a few pattern/hitsounds fixes.
Snapped the end of the last spinner.

EDIT: quick mod for mekadon:
The 1/8 use in this is honestly terrible. Using them seems fine, although it absolutely does not match the overall difficulty of the diff, but using them between 1/4 patterns is excessive, and using kkkkd for instance in 1/8 is extremely hard to play.
Especially this kind of thing: 01:59:266 (15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29,30,31,32,33,34) -
Also, sorry to say this, but the kiai time is really overmapped, even for a taiko. Moreover, the 1/8 and 1/4 patterns mixed in this way make it... Pretty much unplayable. :/
mekadon_old
using them between 1/4 patterns is excessive, and using kkkkd for instance in 1/8 is extremely hard to play.
Not really. Take some bunch of maps e.g. HayaSaitama2000, Family Dondon!, Renai Circulation, etc. Many people can clear those. And there's a reason why OD is 3; so that players who can bitch them able to pass. I took some of the patterns from some TnT songs. IMO, my 1/4+1/8 combo is easier than d k d d k d k d ddd k d k kkd k d k d d dkkkdkdk k d k d for example.

Also, sorry to say this, but the kiai time is really overmapped, even for a taiko.
I don't really feel it's really overmapped. I dumped kiai only on the main chorus. If anyone else mentioned about it, I'll fix it.

Pretty much unplayable. :/
Prety much FCable. I got 6 misses for this, so I think many can play it.

EDIT:Fixed some stuff:http://puu.sh/Gpy
Mint Bunny
deekoon i finished :3Download: Chris Brown - Forever (dkun) [Forever!].osu
Topic Starter
dkun
Well, let's take off with pending from here. I'm sure this is good enough.
Thanks to the guest mappers. :)
dNextGen
<5³
Glass
:3
mekadon_old
pinky!
Rokodo
[Taiko]

Use of 1/8 (in the last kiai section especially) should be more limited to be in-keeping with the difficulty in the earlier stages of the map.
Nachy
lol one of the most often songs I hear on the radio

[Forever!]
02:37:266 (4) - Add finish?

[One Night Stand]
01:47:141 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - Can you make this 1/6? Sounds weird as 1/4
02:01:016 (8) - New combo?
02:37:016 (1) - Add whistle+finish?

Nice map, star~
Zelos
General:

Add mekadon and animelover1432 to your tags.

Re-re-re-re-reMOD!

Forever!

00:59:266 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - very odd use of claps here. remove all claps on this, put a clap on 4,6,end of slider 7, end of slider 8.

01:11:766 (1,2,3) - the horizontal distance of 1 to2 and 3 to 2 are not the same.

01:23:266 (1,2,3,4) - it is obvious that the spacing is not the same here. FEEX NOW

01:55:266 (1,2,3,4) - incorrect spacing.

One Night Stand:

Some of your combos are on the realtively long side.
Mint Bunny
Topic Starter
dkun

Zelos wrote:

General:

Add mekadon and animelover1432 to your tags. done

One Night Stand:

Some of your combos are on the realtively long side. I know this much. :(
Topic Starter
dkun

NachoPiggy wrote:

lol one of the most often songs I hear on the radio sabihin mo na

[One Night Stand]
01:47:141 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - Can you make this 1/6? Sounds weird as 1/4 added another beat for a triple, should sound better?
02:01:016 (8) - New combo? done
02:37:016 (1) - Add whistle+finish? done

Nice map, star~
salamat~ :3
mekadon_old

Rokodo wrote:

[Taiko]

Use of 1/8 (in the last kiai section especially) should be more limited to be in-keeping with the difficulty in the earlier stages of the map.
ok
ztrot
Forever!:
00:45:266 (5) - poor slider construction
00:55:266 (1,2) - ^
01:05:766 (4) - ^
01:11:766 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - spacing inconsistencies
01:27:266 (1) - remove new combo
01:35:766 (2) - this slider can be made better
01:37:766 (4) - ^
01:41:266 (5) - spacing inconsistencies
02:03:266 (1,2,3,4) - ^
02:07:766 (1,2,3) - sliders look bad in gen and the end points are touching that looks bad.
02:15:766 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - spacing inconsistencies
overall the spacing seems off really inconsistent looks like you tried to make triangles and failed, also the combos are random and quite out of place at times, a lot of your sliders looked poorly made as well

Taiko: yeah I don't mod taiko

One night stand!:
00:32:516 (7,8,9) - stack the 7 on the previous 5
00:34:516 (4) - stack on the slider end point.
00:38:016 (10,11,12) - stack this to where the 11 lands on the previous 8
00:52:266 (2,3) - stack these end points.
00:58:266 (11) - newcombo
01:03:391 (14,15) - stack these to the end points
01:06:516 (11) - newcombo
01:07:266 (13,14,15) - space this out further so the 01:07:766 (16) - doesn't look as bad, like this
01:18:016 (1,2,3,4) - looks like you was going for a diamond but it's a bit off.
01:19:516 (8) - new combo
01:27:016 (1,2) - the end points are touching that looks a bit bad try putting some space in between them.
01:33:266 (7) - new combo
01:36:266 (4,5) - the end and start points are touching that looks a bit bad try putting some space in between them.
01:38:266 (9) - new combo
01:47:141 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - this part feels and plays odd sounds better if you snap it to all blue ticks fits the lyrics, at this part that is what you'd want to map to if you want you can add the white tick at the end to keep your clap pattern going.
01:52:266 (6,7,8,9,10,11) - spacing.
01:57:266 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - spacing it's not a perfect triangle
02:11:016 (5) - stack this on the end point of the slider
02:11:641 (7) - stack this on the end point of the slider
02:12:516 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - small spacing inconsistencies the diamond and parts of the zigzag.
02:18:266 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - spacing the diamond is off again.
02:24:016 (10) - new combo
02:24:266 (11,12,13,1,2,3) - spacing looks like you wanted to make a diamond again but it's off a few grids.
02:32:016 (7,8,9,10) - ^
overall this is not a bad map it just needs some TCL I disliked how the mp3 ended so sudden but that's just my two cents
Topic Starter
dkun
SPOILER

ztrot wrote:

all mods done
One night stand!:
00:32:516 (7,8,9) - stack the 7 on the previous 5
00:34:516 (4) - stack on the slider end point.
00:38:016 (10,11,12) - stack this to where the 11 lands on the previous 8
00:52:266 (2,3) - stack these end points.
00:58:266 (11) - newcombo
01:03:391 (14,15) - stack these to the end points
01:06:516 (11) - newcombo
01:07:266 (13,14,15) - space this out further so the 01:07:766 (16) - doesn't look as bad, like this
01:18:016 (1,2,3,4) - looks like you was going for a diamond but it's a bit off.
01:19:516 (8) - new combo
01:27:016 (1,2) - the end points are touching that looks a bit bad try putting some space in between them.
01:33:266 (7) - new combo
01:36:266 (4,5) - the end and start points are touching that looks a bit bad try putting some space in between them.
01:38:266 (9) - new combo
01:47:141 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - this part feels and plays odd sounds better if you snap it to all blue ticks fits the lyrics, at this part that is what you'd want to map to if you want you can add the white tick at the end to keep your clap pattern going.
01:52:266 (6,7,8,9,10,11) - spacing.
01:57:266 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - spacing it's not a perfect triangle
02:11:016 (5) - stack this on the end point of the slider
02:11:641 (7) - stack this on the end point of the slider
02:12:516 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - small spacing inconsistencies the diamond and parts of the zigzag.
02:18:266 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - spacing the diamond is off again.
02:24:016 (10) - new combo
02:24:266 (11,12,13,1,2,3) - spacing looks like you wanted to make a diamond again but it's off a few grids.
02:32:016 (7,8,9,10) - ^
overall this is not a bad map it just needs some TCL I disliked how the mp3 ended so sudden but that's just my two cents
Mint Bunny

ztrot wrote:

Forever!:
00:45:266 (5) - poor slider construction
00:55:266 (1,2) - ^
01:05:766 (4) - ^
01:11:766 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - spacing inconsistencies
01:27:266 (1) - remove new combo
01:35:766 (2) - this slider can be made better
01:37:766 (4) - ^
01:41:266 (5) - spacing inconsistencies
02:03:266 (1,2,3,4) - ^
02:07:766 (1,2,3) - sliders look bad in gen and the end points are touching that looks bad.
02:15:766 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - spacing inconsistencies
overall the spacing seems off really inconsistent looks like you tried to make triangles and failed, also the combos are random and quite out of place at times, a lot of your sliders looked poorly made as well
all done~
Download: Chris Brown - Forever (dkun) [Forever!].osu
Sander-Don
good map star
ztrot
yeah I'd have a mat look at it now
Jarby
I think the offset's slightly early. Try 7,275. Make sure to resnap all notes and adjust inherited sections accordingly after doing this.

Forever!:

00:59:266 (3) - New combo, it's currently drawn out too long.
01:46:766 (5) - New combo.
02:07:775 - Move the kiai here 1/1 back.

One Night Stand!:

00:49:016 (5,6,7) - Raise it up one grid. If not just for the sake of symmetry, but for properly complementing the following pattern.
01:00:016 (1) - Change grid level to 4. Raise end point up one grid. Now it is more symmetrical! Alternatively, follow the information listed under arcs for maximum symmetry.
01:03:766 - Move the kiai start here 1/1 back. They should almost always start on the main beat.
01:19:266 - As above, kiai should restart here. The chorus doesn't lose momentum before then, so simply set kiai off 1/8 before this.
This needs at least one break, yes. An easy solution is to delete 01:35:516 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10). That is, up until 01:42:852.
02:07:516 - Similar to before, move the kiai point 1/2 back here.
02:23:266 - And the kiai restart here.
Mint Bunny

Jarby wrote:

I think the offset's slightly early. Try 7,275. Make sure to resnap all notes and adjust inherited sections accordingly after doing this.

Forever!:

00:59:266 (3) - New combo, it's currently drawn out too long.
01:46:766 (5) - New combo.
02:07:775 - Move the kiai here 1/1 back.
all done
Download: Chris Brown - Forever (dkun) [Forever!].osu
Topic Starter
dkun
SPOILER

Jarby wrote:

I think the offset's slightly early. Try 7,275. Make sure to resnap all notes and adjust inherited sections accordingly after doing this. 7266 works fine for me, and I just doublechecked it.

One Night Stand!: All mods are done down here.

00:49:016 (5,6,7) - Raise it up one grid. If not just for the sake of symmetry, but for properly complementing the following pattern.
01:00:016 (1) - Change grid level to 4. Raise end point up one grid. Now it is more symmetrical! Alternatively, follow the information listed under arcs for maximum symmetry.
01:03:766 - Move the kiai start here 1/1 back. They should almost always start on the main beat.
01:19:266 - As above, kiai should restart here. The chorus doesn't lose momentum before then, so simply set kiai off 1/8 before this.
This needs at least one break, yes. An easy solution is to delete 01:35:516 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10). That is, up until 01:42:852.
02:07:516 - Similar to before, move the kiai point 1/2 back here.
02:23:266 - And the kiai restart here.
ztrot
:U offset change
Mara
6/5 best map ever star
Faust
Go go dkun
Ephemeral
Ranked after fixing tags on One Night Stand
Andrea
Someone should add epilepsy warning and disable letterbox during breaks on every difficulty with haxsubmit please.

Grats for the rank dkun, though~
Haneii
:)
Tatsuo
Grats Koon.
More Koon maps added to osu!.
Claudia_old
woah dkun you didn't tell me you were gonna get this ranked an hour after I played it LOL...

massive grats bro! <3
James2250
(I come to mod this and its ranked?)

Congrats :D
mekadon_old

James2250 wrote:

(I come to smallfix my diff and its ranked?)

Congrats :D
Yep. Grats dkun-sama.
aabc271 you biatch D:
RockeDon
Taiko is awesome, like this mappingstyle, think osu must have more from this taikodiffs!
But to many ppl here are whining and flameing on this taikostyle, but it's more fun as the boring "only 1/4 maps that will be (")authentic(")!"

I <3 you mekkadon :D
Topic Starter
dkun
I forgot to say thanks again to those that helped.
And a big thanks to ztrot for putting up with my nagging beyond belief.

:)

EDIT: LunaticMara is officially the best Taiko player there is.

Mara
I am

ztrot
oh god
mekadon_old
Mara you're pro~~~ >//////<
START POWER
RockeDon

mekadon wrote:

Mara you're pro~~~ >//////<
START POWER

why you put him down? I can't play any taikomap 6 month ago, and now, I play all of thoose maps! When he train a lot, he'll be better!
RockeDon

mekadon wrote:

Mara you're pro~~~ >//////<
START POWER

why you put him down? I can't play any taikomap 6 month ago, and now, I play all of thoose maps! When he train a lot, he'll be better!
Garven
02:22:385 - That premature kiai. :/
Nice relaxing maps though~
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