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Nine Inch Nails - Closer

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Topic Starter
Real1
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on den 28 juni 2009 at 20:40:23

Artist: Nine Inch Nails
Title: Closer
BPM: 90
Filesize: 7710kb
Play Time: 01:22
Difficulties Available:
  1. Easy (2,3 stars, 111 notes)
  2. Hard (4,77 stars, 396 notes)
  3. Normal (4,13 stars, 292 notes)
Download: Nine Inch Nails - Closer
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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WARNING: Explicit lyrics.

Now when that's out of the way:
HI! Real1 here, I am back with yet another beatmap! This is my 7th one. Closer, by Nine Inch Nails.


This map comes packed with three difficulties:
Easy, Normal, and Hard.



It's a fun map. I'm sure you will enjoy!

Edit #1: Pr?lles (TPIY) suggestions added.
Edit #2: minyeob fixings added.
Edit #3: Most of SFG fixings added.
Edit #4: Takuma fixings. New offset: 140. (tried Takuma's, mixed around a bit, got 140)
Edit #5: Shinde's changes added. Thank you very much.
Edit #6: Djpop's changes.
Edit #7: vytas suggestion. Can it be bubble tiem now plez?
Edit #8: strager. Thanks! Just when I was losing hope.
Edit #9: Made the long 1/4 stream in Hard much much shorter. Why? Because I have realised how much it sucks that too many mappers challenge the players by deathstreams. Not in my maps. No Sir.
Edit #10: Bursting my bubble to fix two hitsound issues found by gyt and a new preview point suggested by mtmcl.
Edit #11: HUGE HARD OVERHAUL. Suggestions by Mogsworth!
Edit #12: Spacing.
Edit #13: Mogsworth hitsound correction and a few other small fixes.
Edit #14: Mogs on IRC.
Edit #15: SFG fix. BUBBLE NOW BUSTED. Re-bubble PLOX.
The_Priest_In_Yellow
I like this, very much tbh.

couple of things though that crossed my mind while I was looking/playing it through;

[normal]
01:25:458 - In my humble opinion the notes that start off here are a bit too close, which makes it hard to read/play. Maybe add a little more space between them.

[hard]
02:02:791 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4) - This spacing didn't cause me any trouble, but I can see how it might cause people who are unfamiliar with the song a bit of trouble; the notes start off nice and wide but then grow closer by half the distance.
Topic Starter
Real1
Fixed/Changed.

Thanks Prälle.
minyeob
Easy
1:04:124(6)-> Increase the amount of U-turning by 1.

Normal
56:958(Break)-> How about adding some beats on this blank part?
1:30:624(4)-> Spacing nazi. Move left a bit.
2:02:792(1,2,3)-> Spacing is Nice

Hard
33:624(4)-> Whistle.(Ending point only)
56:958(Break)-> Same as Normal.
58:624(1)-> 1/4 beat backward

EDIT: 444th post.



P.S Nazi modders will mention about the spacing issues <3
Topic Starter
Real1
Thanks again minyeob. So far you have managed to mod every map of mine. :)
Yuukari-Banteki
[Easy]
00:02:12 (4,5,1) - can you make this an equilateral triangle?
00:04:79 (3) - stack under 5
00:08:12 (1) - no jumps in Easy
00:10:79 (1) - doesnt flow well from 4
00:35:45 (1) - move out from under 4
00:40:79 (2) - finish
01:21:45 (2) - remove finish


[Normal]
00:10:79 (1) - stack under 5
00:13:45 (1) - stack under fading 2
00:24:79 (2) - whistle
00:31:62 (2) - remove finish
00:33:12 (3) - spacing is off
00:33:45 (4) - remove finish from end
00:34:79 (1) - weird jump
00:39:45 (5,6) - remove finish from 6 and add it to 5
00:51:45 (1) - hitsound this
00:55:45 (3) - ^
00:58:79 (1) - remove finish
01:50:79 (1) - hitsound this
02:02:79 (1,2,3) - spacing???
02:06:12 (2) - finish
i suggest using more claps in here - theyre the most visible hitsound


[Hard]
00:02:12 (1) - stack under fading 1
00:07:45 (1) - ^
00:10:79 (7,8,1) - imo this should be one full combo
00:16:12 (10) - new combo
00:26:12 (1) - align w 6
00:29:45 (1) - stack on end of 4
00:37:79 (1,2,3,4,5) - needs soft whistles in here somewhere
01:04:12 (10) - new combo
01:12:79 (3,4,5) - wtf spacing at least center 4
01:27:79 (1) - no jumps in a deathstream
01:48:79 (5,6,7,8,9,10) - needs more hitsound
01:52:45 (1) - too close to prev. note (2 should stack under prev. 3)
01:56:79 (2,3,4) - claps?
02:02:79 (1) - looks bad partly under fading 1
02:33:45 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - hitsounds
again, i would use more claps


have a star
Topic Starter
Real1
Thanks. Did most of it. Not all. Also, not too many claps! I want the song to feel heavy while playing... And claps seem a bit too... "happy" for it. However, I added a few claps. ;)
Takuma
I tried to time this song even though I suck at it. >w<

Offset: 144ms

All:
First few seconds were a tad boring.

Easy:
00:06:12 (2) - Perhaps you forgot a whistle here?
00:42:12 (4) - Line up with (3).

Normal:
00:06:79 (1,2,3,4) - Line up with 00:04:79 (2).
00:03:45 (6) - 1 level 3 grid down.
00:36:12 (1,2,3,4,5) - Move so that the (1) is stacked with 00:34:45 (5).

Hard:
00:04:79 (2) - Stack with fading (2).
00:06:12 (2,3,4) - Align with 00:04:12 (1).
00:30:12 (3,4,5) - Align with 00:29:45 (1,2).
01:52:12 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - ..awkward spacing.
02:12:12 (3,4) - Line up with (2).
02:28:79 (5,6,7) - Line up with 02:27:79 (2,3,4).
Topic Starter
Real1
Thanks Takuma. :)

The first few seconds are just an intro. It's pretty good to get used to the BPM, I think.
In Easy I guess it's a bit boring, but Easy is Easy.
In Hard, I think it's pretty cool.
Shinde
Offset - For me I was consistently hitting the notes 5ms early through several playthroughs. This isn't a bit deal, I'd get a few more opinions on this and if everyone's hitting a little early, consider tweaking it a slight amount.

Easy
Everything checks out with me.
Normal
^
Hard
(3) 0:31:806 - Move this right 1 square.
(1) 0:32:476 - Move this up 1 square.
(1,2,3,) 2:46:139 - The placement seems off in consideration with how horizontal and vertical the rest of your note placement was.

The only thing I didn't really look closely over was hitsounds, I'd get someone to HS Nazi Normal and Hard. I thought the HSs matched the feel of the song well, and I liked the changes you used near the middle. Though I'm sure someone who was really picky with that could suggest something. I couldn't find anything wrong with the BPM and offset while playing , and the placement all seemed consistent. All the of the notes were spot on with the beat. As far as aesthetics go, the note coloring seemed fine and the background was nice. Unless you have some ideas for a custom skin or storyboarding, which I can't imagine, I think everything looks fine visually.

Star for you.
Topic Starter
Real1
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
Otium_old
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DJPop
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vytalibus
[Hard]
02:35:30 (5) - Wrongly-placed. I'd say move the starting position forward by 1/4.

Starred.
Ultimate
This needs to get ranked. Starred
anonymous_old
General
Normally I have a problem with dark combo colours with a dark background but here it works well, actually, and I'm surprised.

Easy
Beginning has inconsistent combo choices. 5,3,4,4. Make it 4,4,4,4.

00:27:13 (1) - Kinda hard to see the approach circle and the timing not obvious for someone who hasn't played the map/song before.

Normal
00:16:13 (9,1) - Swap new combos?
01:25:47 (1,2,1,2) - Kinda hard to read where the sliders start and end.
01:51:47 (2,3,4) - Uneven?
02:23:47 (3,4,5) - Uneven?
02:45:47 (7,1) - Swap new combos?

Hard
Nothing to report.
RaisTF
Nice map. Especially Hard, Hard is cool o3o

Star for priority ~.~
Topic Starter
Real1

RaisTF wrote:

Nice map. Especially Hard, Hard is cool o3o

Star for priority ~.~
Thank you for the praise. <3
mtmcl
This map is pretty cool. I think you should set a cool preview point, but that's not a rankability issue so please take this bubble and be careful with it.
gyt
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Topic Starter
Real1
BUBBLE LOST BECAUSE I CHANGED HIT SOUNDS AND ADDED A BETTER PREVIEW POINT. Re-bubble please.

@ mtmcl Thank you so much! I'm grateful! Better preview point added.

gyt wrote:

Ah, super map. Rank it!! Thank you <3

Hard
00:30:806 - whistle? why? Because it sounds better
00:34:306 - whistle? maybe 00:34:139? Nah, it's fine
00:48:473 - maybe spasing how 00:46:806? I see no problem
01:28:973 - remove finish and sound will be very good Fixed
02:46:139 (1,2,3) - claps? For two of them, ok
02:46:306 (2,3) maybe spasing how 02:40:139? Stacks. No changin'
Mogsy
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Topic Starter
Real1
OH GOD. Fixed most of Mogsys' suggestion.
gyt

Real1 wrote:

OH GOD. Fixed most of Mogsys' suggestion.
Oh, start of map so boooring now -_-
(It flows terribly? But >10 people think differently! And it isn't overmapped at all!). OK, I know. I'm nobody..

In new hard on 01:28:306 [the end of slider (1)] put finish sound, please!
Topic Starter
Real1

gyt wrote:

Real1 wrote:

OH GOD. Fixed most of Mogsys' suggestion.
Oh, start of map so boooring now -_- T_T :cry:
(It flows terribly? But >10 people think differently! And it isn't overmapped at all!). OK, I know. I'm nobody.. Actually. Seibei, also a BAT felt the same. Two BATs thought it had to change.

01:28:973 - remove this finish, but no delete this - 01:28:306, please!Hmm, I have finish sounds on every white tick here. Will be weird if I remove them as you say... Don't you think? Or am I misunderstanding you?
Mogsy

gyt wrote:

(It flows terribly? But >10 people think differently! And it isn't overmapped at all!). OK, I know. I'm nobody..
Don't question my decisions on flow in particular.

Anyways.

Easy and Normal both look fine. I'll take another look later.

Hard:
-00:00:13 (1) - Remove the Clap.
-00:01:47 (5) - ^
-00:02:13 (1) - Remove the New Combo mark.
-00:02:80 (2) - Add a New Combo mark, remove the Clap.
-00:04:13 (1) - Remove the Clap and New Combo mark.
-00:05:47 (1) - Remove the Clap.
-00:06:80 (5) - ^
-00:07:47 (1) - Remove the New Combo mark.
-00:08:13 (2) - New Combo mark goes here, remove the Clap...
-Basically, so I'm not here all night listing everything, follow this same pattern; remove all Claps, make the phrases make sense. The Claps sound far too harsh here.
-00:23:47 (5,6) - 1/4 earlier for both.
-00:25:47 (6) - New Combo mark goes here.
-00:28:13 (4) - This should end 1/4 earlier.
-00:29:13 (5) - This should be 1/4 earlier.
-00:33:63 (6) - This should end 1/4 earlier.
-00:35:139 - This should have a beat.
-00:38:97 (4) - This should be 1/4 later.
-00:43:80 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - This phrase flows improperly, please redo it. I mostly blame 2 and 3 for this.
-00:49:63 (3,4) - I hate how this flows.
-00:50:80 (5) - This should be 1/4 earlier.
-00:51:47 (1) - Replace the Finish with a Whistle.
-00:52:13 (1) - Remove the Finish.
-00:53:47 (1) - Make this have a Whistle.
-00:53:80 (2) - This only needs a Whistle.
-00:54:13 (3) - This only needs a Finish.
-01:04:056 - Move the inherit section to here.
-01:49:47 (7) - Extend by 1/4, and it should start 1/4 earlier.
-01:56:13 (1) - Remove the Finish.
-01:58:80 (1,2,3) - Remove all hitsounds.
-02:01:13 (4) - Remove the Finish from the endpoint.
-02:02:47 (3) - Realign, this looks sloppy.
-02:02:80 (1) - Remove the Finish.
-02:03:47 (3) - ^
-02:03:80 (1) - Remove the New Combo mark.
-02:05:47 (1,2) - Remove the Claps.
-02:06:80 (4,5) - ^
-02:08:13 (1) - Add a Finish.
-02:11:47 (1,2,3,4) - Remove the Claps.
-02:16:80 (1,2,3,4) - ^
-02:22:80 (1,2) - ^
-02:33:63 (5,6) - ^
-02:34:30 (2,3) - ^
-02:46:30 (2,3,1,2,1,2) - Remove the Claps, needs a better hitsound pattern.

Yeah.

EDORT: Modded via IRC. All fixed now, bubbled.
Yuukari-Banteki
[Easy]
eh its ok


[Normal]
looks fine


[Hard]
00:43:47 (3,1,2,3) - odd note placement
02:39:13 (3,4,5) - feels awkward


i dont really trust the timing on this so no rank for now
Topic Starter
Real1

Saturos-fangirl wrote:

[Easy]
eh its ok


[Normal]
looks fine


[Hard]
00:43:47 (3,1,2,3) - odd note placement
02:39:13 (3,4,5) - feels awkward


i dont really trust the timing on this so no rank for now

Bubble busted for fixing this. Re-bubble, thanks.
Mogsy
Rebubbled.
Yuukari-Banteki
[Easy]
looks good


[Normal]
's good


[Hard]
ranked
Topic Starter
Real1
Nice! Thanks everyone who helped me. This thing took too much time to make.
Udonge
Personally I would like one map that includes the instrumental part at the other half of the song :)
Maybe for the "Insane" map.
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