17:26 <Garven> : 'sup
17:27 <Sandpig> : ;_; after mods and changes I need a bat for my app map
17:28 <Garven> : Your manimani?
17:28 <Sandpig> : ;_; yeah
17:28 <Sandpig> : ;_; seems that I can't find anything to fix
17:28 <Garven> : Aaah so tired of modding that song, haha
17:28 <Sandpig> : I see it...
17:28 <Sandpig> : but can't find anyone help me with it
17:30 <Garven> : Aaah so many ugly slider curves, hehe
17:30 <Sandpig> : lol
17:30 <Sandpig> : just tried to map with flow
17:33 <Garven> : 02:51:062 (1) - Dang, speed up is huuuge
17:33 <Sandpig> : haha
17:33 <Garven> : 03:12:144 (1) - Whoa
17:33 <Sandpig> : >< in fact my fav part
17:34 <Garven> : I couldn't see the loop of this slider at all due to hitbursts
17:34 <Sandpig> : yeah I know it
17:34 <Sandpig> : I'm not sure if it's rankable or not...
17:34 <Sandpig> : just find it interesting ...
17:35 <Garven> : It's cool, but I think it may be questionable for ranking
17:35 <Sandpig> : ok I'm going to fixed it...
17:36 <Garven> : 04:01:117 (1,1,1) - aaah just modded a map that does this exact thing. I don't mind the speed ups; it's the new combo spam I don't like.
17:36 <Sandpig> : lol add new combo since speed up dunno if it's necessary
17:36 <Garven> : I don't think so
17:36 <Sandpig> : k
17:37 <Sandpig> : in fact I don't like combospam either xD
17:37 <Garven> : Aww
17:38 <Garven> : 04:06:954 - So used to the other app one that maps here too, hehe
17:38 <Garven> : You mind if I nazi sliders?
17:38 <Sandpig> : this part is hard to map with my hitsounds I think...
17:38 <Garven> : They're just so ugly ;_;
17:39 <Sandpig> : if I can keep the flow I want...
17:39 <Sandpig> : don't mind small adjustment
17:39 <Garven> : It's slider shape I'm concerned with, not direction
17:39 <Sandpig> : ah
17:40 <Sandpig> : slider like this 00:24:144 (5) - ?
17:40 <Garven> : Like 00:12:792 (3) -
17:40 <Garven> : 24: is actually fine
17:41 <Garven> :
http://puu.sh/fO5G17:41 <Garven> : Something like that
17:41 <Garven> : The third point helps give a smoother curve
17:41 <Garven> : Just place a circle at the endpoint so you have something to aim for when readjusting
17:41 <Sandpig> : I see
17:42 <Garven> : 00:29:332 (5) - This could use some work too
17:42 <Garven> : 00:31:278 (2) -
17:43 <Garven> : 00:31:927 (6) - Maybe like this so the curve isn't so sharp at the red anchor
http://puu.sh/fO6817:44 <Sandpig> : ;_; I'm so weak in shaping sliders
17:44 <Garven> : 00:52:684 (4) - The shape of this one is fine on its own, but compared to the stlye style you used up until this point, it just looks out of place.
17:44 <Garven> : This is good practice.
17:44 <Garven> : 01:07:927 (4) - Same as earlier
17:45 <Garven> : 01:18:306 (4) - Another one that's okay on its own, but the style of it is weird compared to everything else
17:45 <Garven> : 01:25:440 (1) - Curve is too sharp
17:45 <Garven> : 01:26:089 (1) -
17:46 <Garven> : If you can, try to avoid kinks in the curve like this
http://puu.sh/fO7817:46 <Garven> : It'll give the slider a smoother feel
17:48 <Garven> : 01:45:549 (6) - This one is kind of difficult since it looks like you were kind of going for a blanket, but also lining up the end point to go down the
17:48 <Garven> : line with 01:46:035 (7,1) -
17:52 <Sandpig> : I'm on them
17:52 <Garven> : Still trying to fix 1:45 hehe
17:52 <Sandpig> : 01:45:549 (6) - is it hard?
17:53 <Garven> :
http://puu.sh/fOa417:53 <Garven> : Blanket is not quite right
17:53 <Garven> : But I set the slider speed to .8x to make it fit
17:53 <Sandpig> : lol
17:53 <Sandpig> : don't want to change the sv
17:53 <Garven> : @#$(&
17:53 <Sandpig> : maybe I place 01:46:035 (7) - somewhere else
17:53 <Garven> : I think that's the only way it's going to fit while keeping your patter
17:54 <Garven> : The slow down feels okay though
17:54 <Garven> : It's hardly noticible
17:54 <Garven> : Though yeah, it'd be better if you could find a different approach
17:54 <Sandpig> :
http://puu.sh/fOaC17:55 <Garven> : That'll work too, hehe
17:55 <Sandpig> : \:D/
17:55 <Garven> : 01:55:927 (6,2) - These two need to be smootherr
17:57 <Garven> : 02:10:197 (4) - I'm... not sure about this one
17:57 <Garven> : It's okay, but it could look better
17:58 <Garven> : 02:20:575 (4) - This felt uneven
17:58 <Garven> : 02:21:548 (4) - ^
17:58 <Garven> : 02:29:008 (1) - Same thing as the last slider like this
18:01 <Garven> : 03:00:468 (1) - This sounds weird with the claps... maybe you've uploaded more hitsounds since when I last downloaded, heh
18:01 <Sandpig> : lol yeah I think so
18:02 <Garven> : 03:14:738 (2) - uneven
18:02 <Garven> : 03:17:657 (3) - You could smooth this out if you want.
http://puu.sh/fOdA18:03 <Garven> : 03:32:900 (2) - A little sharp
18:04 <Garven> : 03:53:658 (2) - A little smoother like this
http://puu.sh/fOek18:05 <Sandpig> : seems that I should use more anchors for sliders
18:05 <Sandpig> : ok I learn it xD
18:05 <Garven> : Have you seen RJ's guide for slider shapes?
18:05 <Sandpig> : nope
18:05 <Garven> :
viewtopic.php?f=56&t=3719418:05 <Garven> : A lot of useful tips there
18:06 <Sandpig> : thx for this xD
18:07 <Garven> : ~
18:07 <Garven> : Anyway, there's my slider nazi mod.
18:08 <Sandpig> : it's quite useful for me xD
18:09 <Sandpig> : in fact from this map I began to try these kind of sliders. I could only make bananas before lol
18:09 <Garven> : ahaha
18:09 <Garven> : My problem now with sliders is that I find plain curves to be boring, so I try different things
18:09 <Garven> : Doesn't turn out so well at times, hehe
18:10 <Sandpig> : ok I'll go through it and update
18:22 <Sandpig> : >< done
18:23 <Garven> : Aah doing this reminds me that I need to check back on Goisuke's
18:23 <Sandpig> : lol
18:23 <Garven> : Ooh, you have a different bg now
18:23 <Sandpig> : yeah
18:23 <Sandpig> : I did a mod for bg hehe
18:37 <Garven> : 01:55:927 (6) -
http://puu.sh/fOrn18:38 <Garven> : 02:19:441 (2) - Baaah I keep missing this. Hard to see, hehe
18:40 <Sandpig> : I think it's still readable?
18:40 <Garven> : It is, but I just keep missing it every time I play it again, hehe
18:40 <Sandpig> : xD
18:41 <Garven> : I suck at returning to stacks like that. ;p
18:42 <Sandpig> : ok I think I have an idea to fix it xD
18:47 <Garven> : Oh
18:47 <Garven> : 03:12:144 - Start kiai here
18:48 <Garven> : Maybe same with Alace's diff
18:48 <Sandpig> : not sure but... ok since 2 people mention it
18:49 <Garven> : Well
18:49 <Garven> : You want the fountain to start o nthe blast that is starting the chorus section
18:49 <Garven> : And the style in which the composer used here has the one bea tdelay
18:49 <Sandpig> : yep
18:49 <Garven> : So you're anticipating it on beat before, but it doesn't come until then
18:50 <Garven> : So it' dbe best to represent that with the kiai there instead of a beat late like you have it
18:50 <Sandpig> : I see
18:51 <Sandpig> : ok updated
18:52 <Sandpig> : small change to this part 02:19:278 (1,2,1,2,1) -
18:52 <Sandpig> : and fixed slider and kiai time :3
