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-I didn't at all say it was useless. I said that it doesn't give us any information as to whether you were town or mafia, because that's how I presume you always play (you've done this the past few games I was in). >.<NoHItter wrote:
pieguy1372
- Answers RQS.
- Votes akrol, but states that bmin is suspicious.
- When pressed, states that he has gut feeling that bmin is town. Also says that "that's what he always does on Day 1".
- Says that asking questions does not indicate towniness.
- Also states that the info from RQS is useless. (I disagree)
A bit wary on the policy lynch regarding Day 1. Leaning Scum
-I most certainly vote on my gut day 1, because on day 1 it is more likely than later that the most suspicious people aren't actually mafia. It's just basic statistics, if you have a small sample size, the larger the sample variance and the more likely it is a "false positive" occurs with a lower critical value. As we get more information, we can better make decisions on who actually is more suspicious, and what was just a statistical error. I vote by my gut because of this, as it's hard to reasonably tell who's actually mafia based on concrete evidence by the first day alone.
Alright, I'll tell about my feelings and stuff once I get back from work + sleep. (It's like 6AM and I am going at office soon)
Wojjan - Actual scumhunting. Town.I find it suspicious that you consider both Two and Wojjan as definite town, when everyone else is "leaning" in a direction. You also gave multiple reasons for Two being town, but ranked him below Wojjan? Why?
Two - Flavor-wise it seems Two is town. Town
Chris - Already explained my reasoning on his possible suspicion."Don't want to remind everyone how terrible my attempt at getting Chris lynched was."
- Uses WIFOM as counterarguments though.I didn't realize we had results from a confirmed aux role. Oh wait, we don't.
Everything you've written is "WIFOM", including the reasons you have for thinking someone is Town/Mafia. Your arguing is some of the weakest I've ever seen. You actually placed me at number three on your list, with the only reason being that I said I wanted to be mafia (which like I said above, was conveniently left out).
You already backed out of your "saying you enjoy Mafia makes you Mafia" argument after everyone disagreed with you, yet you continue to cling to the fact you believe I am scum. I guess it doesn't really matter though, just makes our job easier.
unvote
Vote: NoHitter
@ NoHItter
I don't agree with most of your conclusions :/. I find your reasoning for voting Mashley ridiculous (sorry if I'm being harsh but that's my honest opinion). It's Town vs Mafia - not NoHItter vs Mafia. Just because Mashely disagrees with your theories/suggestions, thinks your RQS is useless, and votes you doesn't mean he's mafia. Of course Mashley could be mafia, but not for those reasons.
Focusing on people who appear to be threat to you (as opposed to town as a whole) seems like a mafia thing to do...
I felt uneasy when you targeted Chris and I feel worse about your Mashely vote.
I also don't understand how most of the people you listed as Town (even some of the neutrals) earned those titles.
vote: NoHItter
There's a good chance that you're probably just not thinking things through but atm I don't find anyone else suspicious enough for me to vote, sorry.
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Probably a stupid question: What is "flavor" ?
I don't agree with most of your conclusions :/. I find your reasoning for voting Mashley ridiculous (sorry if I'm being harsh but that's my honest opinion). It's Town vs Mafia - not NoHItter vs Mafia. Just because Mashely disagrees with your theories/suggestions, thinks your RQS is useless, and votes you doesn't mean he's mafia. Of course Mashley could be mafia, but not for those reasons.
Focusing on people who appear to be threat to you (as opposed to town as a whole) seems like a mafia thing to do...
I felt uneasy when you targeted Chris and I feel worse about your Mashely vote.
I also don't understand how most of the people you listed as Town (even some of the neutrals) earned those titles.
vote: NoHItter
There's a good chance that you're probably just not thinking things through but atm I don't find anyone else suspicious enough for me to vote, sorry.
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Probably a stupid question: What is "flavor" ?
What I'm worried is multiple people over defending Chris. You guys defence to the point where it's almost unnecessary. No new points were given through the discussing of "How people's preferrence effects the role given", but pointing out the same "It's hard to influence your given role because of the different set up". Do we need like half of the players to point this out? Or are you just trying to get an easy town points?
This also makes me uneasy to vote for NoHItter. I haven't seen a real attempt on doing anything to defend NoHItter (the only one I can think of is akrolsmir and Haneii showing suspicion toward me). It was an easy situation for the mafia to take their hands off from this arguements. However, NoHItter continues to bring his points about Chris. It's deadly obvious it's dangerous to persue the point no one agreed on. Is it actually worth it for the mafia? Not sure, but I think it's stupid to risk it's teammate like that for a lynch while they still have a long way to go.
Now about Two, tbh it's hard for me to believe Two would choose Q as a role he wants to play. He is very motivated on playing mafia games (atleast I haven't seen him being a quiet townie before) but choosing Q, who's known for lurking, contradicts his interest. The way he wasted his posts also isn't very "Two like". Answerring RVQ which is never useful with the post itself, role claiming (this may be useful, but could have just waited for us to figure it out. Being revealed as a lurking role doesn't make you scum), and a vote against DxS because of lurking. Really? It almost seems as if he just gave up on this game, but this doesn't really convince me because of his PM. He PM'd me to join this game. Doesn't seem like he would be disinterested if he even goes around asking people to join this game. It's really hard for me to believe his role claim and his behavior :<...
This also makes me uneasy to vote for NoHItter. I haven't seen a real attempt on doing anything to defend NoHItter (the only one I can think of is akrolsmir and Haneii showing suspicion toward me). It was an easy situation for the mafia to take their hands off from this arguements. However, NoHItter continues to bring his points about Chris. It's deadly obvious it's dangerous to persue the point no one agreed on. Is it actually worth it for the mafia? Not sure, but I think it's stupid to risk it's teammate like that for a lynch while they still have a long way to go.
Now about Two, tbh it's hard for me to believe Two would choose Q as a role he wants to play. He is very motivated on playing mafia games (atleast I haven't seen him being a quiet townie before) but choosing Q, who's known for lurking, contradicts his interest. The way he wasted his posts also isn't very "Two like". Answerring RVQ which is never useful with the post itself, role claiming (this may be useful, but could have just waited for us to figure it out. Being revealed as a lurking role doesn't make you scum), and a vote against DxS because of lurking. Really? It almost seems as if he just gave up on this game, but this doesn't really convince me because of his PM. He PM'd me to join this game. Doesn't seem like he would be disinterested if he even goes around asking people to join this game. It's really hard for me to believe his role claim and his behavior :<...
And yes, the vote against Mashley was stupid. False thinking isn't necessarily a scum tell. He also didn't had to reason you because others already have anyway >_>... Emptying does seems suspicious, but also reasonable for townies since there's no info for us on D1 and staying open minded is also a requirement for townies.
o.obmin11 wrote:
I haven't seen a real attempt on doing anything to defend NoHItter (the only one I can think of is akrolsmir and Haneii showing suspicion toward me).
Don't want to go offtopic but can you quickly clarify that? When have a I shown suspicion towards you, bmin11
Oh right. I meant Rantai. Sorry Haneii
Hmm outside of Two (who I'm going to believe is not anti-town) I don't have very strong opinions on anyone yet.
I'm only mildly suspicious of pieguy and that's only because I disagree with voting on a gut feeling alone.
@bmin, how does casting suspicion at you defend NoHItter?
I'm only mildly suspicious of pieguy and that's only because I disagree with voting on a gut feeling alone.
@bmin, how does casting suspicion at you defend NoHItter?
@bmin, how does casting suspicion at you defend NoHItter?Same theory akrolsmir brought it up against me, attempt on side tracking. I don't really take it in to the case though (that's why I just bracketed it)
I didn't actually do this yet but Vote: DxS, you're still not helping yourself. About everyone else: NoHitter seems wrong on a few points (which have been pointed out) but not necessarily scummy. I still don't get the Mashley vote. Nobody else really stands out atm, though I think bmin made a good point about Two.
We've got a lot of people not voting:
Lady Suburu, animask, rust45, DxS, bmin11, rantai, LunaticMara
Some of you guys have just been lurking the whole time but some (bmin, rantai) have been deliberating. Lynch is in less than a day now, you'd better have good reasons for not voting.
We've got a lot of people not voting:
Lady Suburu, animask, rust45, DxS, bmin11, rantai, LunaticMara
Some of you guys have just been lurking the whole time but some (bmin, rantai) have been deliberating. Lynch is in less than a day now, you'd better have good reasons for not voting.
Ah, fuck it, pardon my quality of text - I'm tired - and at work.
Yes, NoHItter's RQS took too much time, but I don't really give a fuck. At least most people (all?) answered it. I just don't understand how those questions are helping us. (More exprienced player, please explain)
I'll trust Two, Wojjan and bmin11 for now. Wojjan and bmin11 seems to be really active on this. Two's roleclaim looks legit. I may be wrong though, but it's not photoshopped or anything.
DxS looks a little bit suspicious to me due his "I-I'm a t-townie, you f-fools!", but meh. He's neutral to me, for now.
Chris looks also pretty weirdo guy, but I guess it's because he's a new guy on forums anyways. Speaking of favorite roles, (Chris likes mafia, wasn't it?) I don't think there was any chance to know what roles to use to get a mafia. Like, only "corrupted BATs" were mentioned AFTERWARDS. It could have been names NoHItter mentioned (but who wants to be WvsW? Really?)
Rantai seems to be inactive too, but he is in Forum Games at the moment, so I guess he's doing something.I really hope you will show yourself and show me your love. This damn guy posted already when I was writing this. Anyway, same thing with animask, though. Haven't seen that guy loooooong time. And foulcoon too. Though I am the one who is inactive here...
pieguy1372's "gut feeling" sounds so weird that I want to cry. Gut feelings everywhere. You don't seem to be a scum, but damn - it's not about gut feelings in here!
I don't know about akrolsmir. I don't know this guy at all (or Chris) but this guy seems to be active too. I think he is a townie. I also have problems thinking about LadySuburu and Lilac. LadySuburu is explaining things right there (and kind of did answer my question above, still needs more detailed answer though), but Lilac sounds like a harsh police officer. ("TALK!") I dunno, pretty neutral about him ATM. Everyone else on the list is still total mystery to me, so I'm not going to even try to say something about them. I'll make sure I've got something to say about them next time.
And I'll answer bmin11's questions now because it seems I missed them.
1. Since this game is biggie,I don't think there aren't just 2 mafias, maybe 3 or 4?
2. For damn sake, do NOT vote No Lynch on D1. It goes nowhere.
And I'm going to
Vote: Mashley
gut feeling
I don't know why is he voting because he has to answer questions. That doesn't make sense, so I'll make some sense. I'm voting because he is voting. Makes total sense, eh?
ok back to work, my name is gabe newell and episode 3 has been delayed
Anyways, I've been lurking around this thread a lot and now I'm ready to tell my opinions... Though I have never been good at this shit.Chris wrote:
You also gave multiple reasons for Two being town, but ranked him below Wojjan? Why?
Yes, NoHItter's RQS took too much time, but I don't really give a fuck. At least most people (all?) answered it. I just don't understand how those questions are helping us. (More exprienced player, please explain)
I'll trust Two, Wojjan and bmin11 for now. Wojjan and bmin11 seems to be really active on this. Two's roleclaim looks legit. I may be wrong though, but it's not photoshopped or anything.
DxS looks a little bit suspicious to me due his "I-I'm a t-townie, you f-fools!", but meh. He's neutral to me, for now.
Chris looks also pretty weirdo guy, but I guess it's because he's a new guy on forums anyways. Speaking of favorite roles, (Chris likes mafia, wasn't it?) I don't think there was any chance to know what roles to use to get a mafia. Like, only "corrupted BATs" were mentioned AFTERWARDS. It could have been names NoHItter mentioned (but who wants to be WvsW? Really?)
Rantai seems to be inactive too, but he is in Forum Games at the moment, so I guess he's doing something.
pieguy1372's "gut feeling" sounds so weird that I want to cry. Gut feelings everywhere. You don't seem to be a scum, but damn - it's not about gut feelings in here!
I don't know about akrolsmir. I don't know this guy at all (or Chris) but this guy seems to be active too. I think he is a townie. I also have problems thinking about LadySuburu and Lilac. LadySuburu is explaining things right there (and kind of did answer my question above, still needs more detailed answer though), but Lilac sounds like a harsh police officer. ("TALK!") I dunno, pretty neutral about him ATM. Everyone else on the list is still total mystery to me, so I'm not going to even try to say something about them. I'll make sure I've got something to say about them next time.
And I'll answer bmin11's questions now because it seems I missed them.
1. Since this game is biggie,I don't think there aren't just 2 mafias, maybe 3 or 4?
2. For damn sake, do NOT vote No Lynch on D1. It goes nowhere.
And I'm going to
Vote: Mashley
I don't know why is he voting because he has to answer questions. That doesn't make sense, so I'll make some sense. I'm voting because he is voting. Makes total sense, eh?
ok back to work, my name is gabe newell and episode 3 has been delayed
I'll state this again since I seem to have to a lot.akrolsmir wrote:
I didn't actually do this yet but Vote: DxS, you're still not helping yourself. About everyone else: NoHitter seems wrong on a few points (which have been pointed out) but not necessarily scummy. I still don't get the Mashley vote. Nobody else really stands out atm, though I think bmin made a good point about Two.
We've got a lot of people not voting:
Lady Suburu, animask, rust45, DxS, bmin11, rantai, LunaticMara
Some of you guys have just been lurking the whole time but some (bmin, rantai) have been deliberating. Lynch is in less than a day now, you'd better have good reasons for not voting.
I don't vote unless I'm convinced enough that someone's scum. I'm not voting, therefore...
I'll say what I think about the two players who seem most likely to be lynched.
DeathxShinigami - Wasn't really posting much content after being called out for lurking, but if I'm remembering correctly offhand he's done things like this before while town and isn't good at defending himself. Still, it's kind-of suspicious anytime someone does it. (Though, not enough to offset my giving him the benefit of the doubt at the moment.)
NoHItter - The long list of thoughts throws me off, since he's never done that before to my knowledge. Also the way he used his questions also bugs me. However, all of this is heavilly gut, which is why I'm not voting him.
If I absolutely HAD to vote right now, I would vote for NoHItter.
<3LunaticMara wrote:
Rantai seems to be inactive too, but he is in Forum Games at the moment, so I guess he's doing something.I really hope you will show yourself and show me your love.This damn guy posted already when I was writing this.
You sound like you really want something hammered and quite frankly that concerns me (rushing votes for the sake of voting will most likely end with a mislynch).akrolsmir wrote:
Some of you guys have just been lurking the whole time but some (bmin, rantai) have been deliberating. Lynch is in less than a day now, you'd better have good reasons for not voting.
As I've mentioned I'm not convinced enough to vote anyone with confidence. If I were to choose a vote now it'd have the same weight as a random vote.
Hammer or not someone's dying in about 15 hours. What I'm interested in is the voting record people leave behind.
I really suck at voting on D1, it's always hard to find someone who actually seems suspicious unless somebody does something really stupid.
@ people voting DxS
Why? Because he isn't talking? It's day one and nearly everyone isn't/doesn't seem to be suspicious enough to be mafia. Many of you are
undecided on who could be mafia - yet some of you attack DxS for not actively voting/targeting someone and I don't get it. I feel a bit sorry for him - people voting him left and right. He probably isn't sure enough about anyone (like most of us are). What do you expect him to say/do to defend himself? Are you guys aware he isn't the only one lurking?
FoS on everyone voting or who had voted for DxS - mafia ganging up on an easy target?
If not, I wish our towns people were more productive >_<
Why? Because he isn't talking? It's day one and nearly everyone isn't/doesn't seem to be suspicious enough to be mafia. Many of you are
undecided on who could be mafia - yet some of you attack DxS for not actively voting/targeting someone and I don't get it. I feel a bit sorry for him - people voting him left and right. He probably isn't sure enough about anyone (like most of us are). What do you expect him to say/do to defend himself? Are you guys aware he isn't the only one lurking?
FoS on everyone voting or who had voted for DxS - mafia ganging up on an easy target?
If not, I wish our towns people were more productive >_<
I only voted for DxS because I was following bmin's logic.
But DxS didn't say anything like he always does. In fact, he only replied to me which means he REALLY likes me which REALLY freaks me out.
Lurking is no good, it doesn't help town~ Come on guys, sing with me.
But DxS didn't say anything like he always does. In fact, he only replied to me which means he REALLY likes me which REALLY freaks me out.
Lurking is no good, it doesn't help town~ Come on guys, sing with me.
Claim: mm201
Since I'm high up in the osu! hierarchy, I can access the player database and look up the identity of a player each night.
I'll get their username and a short description.
I win when all anti-town forces are eliminated.
Since I'm high up in the osu! hierarchy, I can access the player database and look up the identity of a player each night.
I'll get their username and a short description.
I win when all anti-town forces are eliminated.
NoHItter: If you think I'm the scummiest player, why aren't you voting for me?
But as of that roleclaim unvote as I am no longer comfortable lynching NoHItter and there is more time left than I previously expected. Expect a re-vote from me closer to deadline.
But as of that roleclaim unvote as I am no longer comfortable lynching NoHItter and there is more time left than I previously expected. Expect a re-vote from me closer to deadline.
Unvote
Thoughts in a bit.
Thoughts in a bit.
Topic Starter
I have received a PM saying that NoHItter's "anti-town forces" quote broke the game since that's the exact wording of the town PM. I forgot to mention this at the beginning however: the non-town players were given the town PM wordings at the beginning of the game, in order to avoid situations like Pasonia's "politics" game.
Scratch that. I'm pulling up derp.
...Did the host just say that a player was not town?
...Or did I read that wrong?
...Or did I read that wrong?
He didn't confirm anything* I realized after reading the post 3x.
it just meant nohitter could of been subtly trying to influence with that post
it just meant nohitter could of been subtly trying to influence with that post
Don't get it :<
Mafia got the pms of the town? I guess, or something like that so they could play along if someone tried to play the lolrolepm game.Mashley wrote:
Don't get it :<
also vote: nohitter for being tricky
He said everyone knows the terms included in the PMs regardless of their alignment. He has not confirmed anyone's roles.Lilac wrote:
...Did the host just say that a player was not town?
...Or did I read that wrong?
From what I've read, it seems like 0_o said that all non-town players were given town like PMs, hence the "winning when anti-town roles" to NoHItter...which apparently is gamebreaking...
...Yeah, I don't get it. The only way it's gamebreaking is if NoHItter is not with town.
Not to mention 0_o saying that is already gamebreaking.
...Yeah, I don't get it. The only way it's gamebreaking is if NoHItter is not with town.
Not to mention 0_o saying that is already gamebreaking.
Oh okay, never mind then.
DxS (3) - Two, Lilac, akrolsmir
*NoHItter (3) - Chris, Wojjan, Mashley
Mashley (2) - NoHItter, LunaticMara
akrolsmir (1) - pieguy1372
Wojjan (1) - foulcoon
in 7 hours, NoHItter's going to get lynched. Are we really giving up with our possible cop?
*NoHItter (3) - Chris, Wojjan, Mashley
Mashley (2) - NoHItter, LunaticMara
akrolsmir (1) - pieguy1372
Wojjan (1) - foulcoon
in 7 hours, NoHItter's going to get lynched. Are we really giving up with our possible cop?
That votecount isn't up to date.
Wait. How is that tricky?Chris wrote:
Mafia got the pms of the town? I guess, or something like that so they could play along if someone tried to play the lolrolepm game.
also vote: nohitter for being tricky
I paraphrased what was written in my role PM.
My claim still stands.
@Mashley
I did vote for you. >.>
I updated itMashley wrote:
That votecount isn't up to date.
This is what I get for skim-readingNoHItter wrote:
@Mashley
I did vote for you. >.>
Maybe you shouldn't, since that's why NoHItter is voting for you :<
Uhh no. Don't put words in my mouth.bmin11 wrote:
Maybe you shouldn't, since that's why NoHItter is voting for you :<
hi I'm psuedo modding this game too
Vote Count
DxS (3) - Two, Lilac, akrolsmir
NoHItter (3) - Wojjan, Haneii, Chris
Mashley (2) - NoHItter, LunaticMara
akrolsmir (1) - pieguy1372
Wojjan (1) - foulcoon
Deadline in about 5 hours
Vote Count
DxS (3) - Two, Lilac, akrolsmir
NoHItter (3) - Wojjan, Haneii, Chris
Mashley (2) - NoHItter, LunaticMara
akrolsmir (1) - pieguy1372
Wojjan (1) - foulcoon
Deadline in about 5 hours
Vote: DxS
I am not going to take that risk that our cop will get lynched.
I am not going to take that risk that our cop will get lynched.
Well...if I'm getting lynched I might as well use my power now so I can take someone down in flames with me...
Forgive me.
Forgive me.
Oh wow, I had no idea that Day 1 would be so constructive two mafia games in a row... I'll have to read all of these new posts later.
Too late I'm dying!
Vote: Mashley
Vote: Mashley
Topic Starter
Vote Count
DxS (4) Two, Lilac, akrolsmir, LunaticMara
NoHItter (3) Wojjan, Haneii, Chris
Mashley (2) NoHItter, DxS
akrolsmir (1) pieguy1372
Wojjan (1) foulcoon
20 minutes remain
DxS (4) Two, Lilac, akrolsmir, LunaticMara
NoHItter (3) Wojjan, Haneii, Chris
Mashley (2) NoHItter, DxS
akrolsmir (1) pieguy1372
Wojjan (1) foulcoon
20 minutes remain
Wow no time left. I don't think its a good idea to let nohitter get lynched if he actually is the "cop".
Vote: DxS
Your last minute "plea" just seems desperate.
I honestly would rather one of these lurkers voted so they had a reason to talk, but its too late for now.
Vote: DxS
Your last minute "plea" just seems desperate.
I honestly would rather one of these lurkers voted so they had a reason to talk, but its too late for now.
Topic Starter
That's it folks, writing up lynch scene now.
Topic Starter
Final Vote Count
DxS (5) Two, Lilac, akrolsmir, LunaticMara, foulcoon
NoHItter (3) Wojjan, Haneii, Chris
Mashley (2) NoHItter, DxS
akrolsmir (1) pieguy1372
(Player names are in blue, to avoid confusion with role names)
The osu! community was abuzz. "Who would want to take over the community?"; "What's their agenda?"; and most importantly, "Who are they?" Discussion flew, and it seemed like NoHItter wasn't sitting too well in the public opinion. He had no choice:
"Trust me guys, I'm mm201, your friendly neighbourhood iNiS-loving dev!"
Not willing to risk knocking off such a powerful dev, a few players backed off. It looked like DxS was the next to go. NoHItter breathed a sigh of relief while clicking View New Posts, "That was a close one, I don't know how we would have been able to find these rogue admins without my he-"
He then realized that he was logged out.
"That's weird..." he typed in his username and password.
You have specified an incorrect username.
"...what??" He tried again.
You have specified an incorrect username.
"But... but.. DxS had 5 votes! How could this happen!?" Desperate, he tried the last thing he knew:
NoHItter (mm201) - Flavour Cop - Lynched Day 1
It is now Night 1. Night will end in 48 hours, please send all night actions before then.
DxS (5) Two, Lilac, akrolsmir, LunaticMara, foulcoon
NoHItter (3) Wojjan, Haneii, Chris
Mashley (2) NoHItter, DxS
akrolsmir (1) pieguy1372
(Player names are in blue, to avoid confusion with role names)
The osu! community was abuzz. "Who would want to take over the community?"; "What's their agenda?"; and most importantly, "Who are they?" Discussion flew, and it seemed like NoHItter wasn't sitting too well in the public opinion. He had no choice:
"Trust me guys, I'm mm201, your friendly neighbourhood iNiS-loving dev!"
Not willing to risk knocking off such a powerful dev, a few players backed off. It looked like DxS was the next to go. NoHItter breathed a sigh of relief while clicking View New Posts, "That was a close one, I don't know how we would have been able to find these rogue admins without my he-"
He then realized that he was logged out.
"That's weird..." he typed in his username and password.
You have specified an incorrect username.
"...what??" He tried again.
You have specified an incorrect username.
"But... but.. DxS had 5 votes! How could this happen!?" Desperate, he tried the last thing he knew:
SPOILER
...but none came.
...but none came.
NoHItter (mm201) - Flavour Cop - Lynched Day 1
It is now Night 1. Night will end in 48 hours, please send all night actions before then.
Ha! I can still go online in IRC! Now listen here.
First off all, the ritualistic "Go Town!" post.
Then I have to tell you guys something.
I know who the scum is. It is--
NoHItter (mm201) has disconnected (Banned IP Address)
Edit: This post is really a "bah go town!" post. Nothing more xD
First off all, the ritualistic "Go Town!" post.
Then I have to tell you guys something.
I know who the scum is. It is--
NoHItter (mm201) has disconnected (Banned IP Address)
Edit: This post is really a "bah go town!" post. Nothing more xD
Topic Starter
Could those with a night action who do not wish to act please send me a message saying "No action"? Just so I know it's due to that as opposed to still deciding/not knowing that it's night.
Topic Starter
3:17 AM
The alarm clock flashed the time in big red numbers, as if Echo didn't already know how late it was. Echo sat shrouded in darkness at his desk, the glaring computer monitor and the glowing clock his sole sources of light. He took the demise of his fellow dev mm201 hard - if only the community were more informed, perhaps the tragedy could have been avoided. He stared at the osu! source code for hours, scrolling through every detail hoping to find something that could shed some light on this otherwise dark situation.
Suddenly, he sat up.
"What the..." he looked at the information before him. He could barely believe his eyes. "I've gotta tell someone!" He rushed to the osu! Announcement forum to make a thread. The community must know!
I can't let you do that, Echo.
The voice came from his speakers. Suddenly, his cursor started moving on its own, as if controlled by someone else. "Who are you?? What are you doing!?" Echo yelled into his microphone. There was no reply - the cursor silently moved to the x at the top of the browser. Echo took hold of his mouse and fought for control of the cursor, while frantically typing up his message with his other hand. He almost finished the message when he heard the voice:
Time's up.
A message appeared on the screen: Hard Drive Reformat in 3...
..2..
Frantically, Echo typed the last three words and pressed Enter.
...1
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adam2046 (Echo) - Setup Sleuth - Nightkilled Night 1
Echo's message: There is an independent killer who wins when a certain group of people are eliminated.
It is now Day 2, with 16 alive, it's 9 votes to lynch. You have exactly 5 days from this post.
The alarm clock flashed the time in big red numbers, as if Echo didn't already know how late it was. Echo sat shrouded in darkness at his desk, the glaring computer monitor and the glowing clock his sole sources of light. He took the demise of his fellow dev mm201 hard - if only the community were more informed, perhaps the tragedy could have been avoided. He stared at the osu! source code for hours, scrolling through every detail hoping to find something that could shed some light on this otherwise dark situation.
Suddenly, he sat up.
"What the..." he looked at the information before him. He could barely believe his eyes. "I've gotta tell someone!" He rushed to the osu! Announcement forum to make a thread. The community must know!
I can't let you do that, Echo.
The voice came from his speakers. Suddenly, his cursor started moving on its own, as if controlled by someone else. "Who are you?? What are you doing!?" Echo yelled into his microphone. There was no reply - the cursor silently moved to the x at the top of the browser. Echo took hold of his mouse and fought for control of the cursor, while frantically typing up his message with his other hand. He almost finished the message when he heard the voice:
Time's up.
A message appeared on the screen: Hard Drive Reformat in 3...
..2..
Frantically, Echo typed the last three words and pressed Enter.
...1
...
adam2046 (Echo) - Setup Sleuth - Nightkilled Night 1
Echo's message: There is an independent killer who wins when a certain group of people are eliminated.
It is now Day 2, with 16 alive, it's 9 votes to lynch. You have exactly 5 days from this post.
Vote: DxS
Mostly likely, you're only one shot unlynchable. If that's the case, you're either cult or a really screwed up, overpowered Mafia.
Mostly likely, you're only one shot unlynchable. If that's the case, you're either cult or a really screwed up, overpowered Mafia.
Roleclaim: Two
Two - The ability to send the host one statement every night, and get told if it is true or false.
My first statement was "Wojjan, LadySuburu, rust45, and Two are all pro-town".
Result: True.
Wojjan, Two, LadySuburu, and rust45 are all confirmed town.
Two - The ability to send the host one statement every night, and get told if it is true or false.
My first statement was "Wojjan, LadySuburu, rust45, and Two are all pro-town".
Result: True.
Wojjan, Two, LadySuburu, and rust45 are all confirmed town.
it made no sense for him to kill the cop instead of die, so I'm all for lynching him too (still)Lilac wrote:
Vote: DxS
Mostly likely, you're only one shot unlynchable. If that's the case, you're either cult or a really screwed up, overpowered Mafia.
vote: DeathxShinigami
oh wow, that is the most appropriately broken role I've ever seenChris wrote:
Roleclaim: Two
Two - The ability to send the host one statement every night, and get told if it is true or false.
I told you all to pick me
It's so broken, I'm willing to wager that it's false.
I am arguing about the integrity of that statement, no host in their rightful mind should give a confirmation that big... Then again, NoHItter and adam being lynched already is pretty bad...
I am arguing about the integrity of that statement, no host in their rightful mind should give a confirmation that big... Then again, NoHItter and adam being lynched already is pretty bad...
chris knows I have a big ego but neither he nor anyone else in this game is smart or ballsy enough to be that elaborate
speaking of smart, I lied about that whole 3 post restriction thing in order to live to day 2, so thanks a bunch, mafia
possible mafia remaining now are:
bmin11
Rantai
LunaticMara
pieguy1372
foulcoon
DeathxShinigami
akrolsmir
Haneii
Lilac
Mashley
animask
confirmed town:
Two
Wojjan
LadySuburu
rust45
Chris
oh, I think we've won
speaking of smart, I lied about that whole 3 post restriction thing in order to live to day 2, so thanks a bunch, mafia
possible mafia remaining now are:
bmin11
Rantai
LunaticMara
pieguy1372
foulcoon
DeathxShinigami
akrolsmir
Haneii
Lilac
Mashley
animask
confirmed town:
Two
Wojjan
LadySuburu
rust45
Chris
oh, I think we've won
Knowing Two's history of being wrong a lot, I am not going to trust Chris on his word on that statement.
Lilac, why so eager to retry if we've failed already? ouldn't it make more sense for someone to try and vigkill DxS?
Lilac, why so eager to retry if we've failed already? ouldn't it make more sense for someone to try and vigkill DxS?
now are you talking about my 100% mafia win rate or last game where I knew you were mafia day 1?Wojjan wrote:
Knowing Two's history of being wrong a lot,
I'm more worried about you saying that your not town by trying to disprove Chris's statement.
I'm eager to try again because I'm going for someone who's mostly like anti-town rather than say...voting for the cop. Am I right, Wojjan?
I'm eager to try again because I'm going for someone who's mostly like anti-town rather than say...voting for the cop. Am I right, Wojjan?
Wait.... Two just posted 4 times already. Did he just lie about his role?
He lied about the 3 post restriction part...
...Mara, I'm on to you.
...Mara, I'm on to you.
Oh yes, if there IS a Vig out there, please shoot DxS. However, I'm willing to wager that it might not work on a slight suspicious feeling.
Why wouldn't a vig be able to kill DxS? He already avoided lynch somehow, are you saying he could avoid bullets too? That would be OP :S
I'm thinking that he might be able to block one of each kills available.
Lynch, Vig and Nightkill.
But yeah, that does seem far-fetched.
Lynch, Vig and Nightkill.
But yeah, that does seem far-fetched.
Well that's interesting...
I'm for lynching DxS, because I really doubt he's permanently immune to being lynched. We should make sure that the person with the second-most votes is suspicious enough to be lynched anyway, just in case.
I'm for lynching DxS, because I really doubt he's permanently immune to being lynched. We should make sure that the person with the second-most votes is suspicious enough to be lynched anyway, just in case.
DxS's nonlynch was my fault. I woke up one hour to late to vote for DxS over NoHItter.
Claim: strager
Since I'm so clever, I can take someone's vote and force it onto another player without it updating the votecount. They can't change the vote from then on either.
I did that to two early on (since he said he was restricted to three posts, and at the time I prefered a NoHItter lynch.), when NoHItter and DxS were tied 3 for 3. I didn't expect people to continue voting him through a claim, and woke up too late to prevent it. When I said "I'm not voting, so..." I was subtly referencing that ability.
About Chris's claim: The strength of his role is also it's weakness. If any one of his targets had been in any way anti-town, it would've returned false. I can believe the role might exist regardless of if it's true or not.
I was laughing when you guys were talking about strager D1
Claim: strager
Since I'm so clever, I can take someone's vote and force it onto another player without it updating the votecount. They can't change the vote from then on either.
I did that to two early on (since he said he was restricted to three posts, and at the time I prefered a NoHItter lynch.), when NoHItter and DxS were tied 3 for 3. I didn't expect people to continue voting him through a claim, and woke up too late to prevent it. When I said "I'm not voting, so..." I was subtly referencing that ability.
About Chris's claim: The strength of his role is also it's weakness. If any one of his targets had been in any way anti-town, it would've returned false. I can believe the role might exist regardless of if it's true or not.
I was laughing when you guys were talking about strager D1
Great...
...Just great. Unvote
Now we're back to square one.
...Just great. Unvote
Now we're back to square one.
well I never thought deathxshinigami was mafia to begin with, I just wanted them to explain but I guess you all are fun killers
in fact I've been thinking you were mafia, Lilac, since you not only didn't vote day 1, but you tried right off the bat to start a lynch on an easy target, and tried to push for a vigilante kill on them at the very beginning of a day (stifling town discussion)
from another angle, I think how deeply entrenched you are in the osu community (gameplay side) makes you more likely to have ended up with a BAT
unvote, vote Lilac
in fact I've been thinking you were mafia, Lilac, since you not only didn't vote day 1, but you tried right off the bat to start a lynch on an easy target, and tried to push for a vigilante kill on them at the very beginning of a day (stifling town discussion)
from another angle, I think how deeply entrenched you are in the osu community (gameplay side) makes you more likely to have ended up with a BAT
unvote, vote Lilac
actually scratch the whole "didn't vote day 1" thing, I just didn't read carefully enough
I still think you are mafia
I still think you are mafia
I agree with LS's interpretation of Chris's claim. Yet, its still debatable about whether or not his statement is true.
Also, anyone want to summarize Day 1 for me? (Three people maybe?)
Just the important stuff? I don't want to over-analyze every post...
Also, anyone want to summarize Day 1 for me? (Three people maybe?)
Just the important stuff? I don't want to over-analyze every post...
why don't you read day 1 and tell us what you think of it
Any explaination for why you can post more than 3 times now, Two? :<
I would be sad too if I was on the team you are onMashley wrote:
Any explaination for why you can post more than 3 times now, Two? :<
Even accounting for LadySuburu's ability the vote is still 4-4. Is there a hidden doublevoter or something?
Chris's ability does seem pretty overpowered, but I'm also suspicious of claiming so early. Perhaps you're not worrying about being lynched since you're actually mafia? If we go along with his statements and he's not town we're pretty much screwed, as we're lacking cops to verify those claims.
Oh, and FoS DxS, despite being about to be lynched you still didn't post anything of substance. No roleclaim, no analysis, nothing. Just because NoHitter was lynched in your place doesn't mean you're clear.
Chris's ability does seem pretty overpowered, but I'm also suspicious of claiming so early. Perhaps you're not worrying about being lynched since you're actually mafia? If we go along with his statements and he's not town we're pretty much screwed, as we're lacking cops to verify those claims.
Oh, and FoS DxS, despite being about to be lynched you still didn't post anything of substance. No roleclaim, no analysis, nothing. Just because NoHitter was lynched in your place doesn't mean you're clear.
In a tie, the person who had the most votes first would be lynched. (Assuming this game is using the same system as my games, which since the OP says it is, I assume it is.)akrolsmir wrote:
Even accounting for LadySuburu's ability the vote is still 4-4. Is there a hidden doublevoter or something?
I think it's because NoHItter was technically the first to 4 votes (3-3 = 4-2 because of LS). Then it went up to 4-4 from there.akrolsmir wrote:
Even accounting for LadySuburu's ability the vote is still 4-4. Is there a hidden doublevoter or something?
LS makes a good point about Chris' statements. But I still question the integrity of it, it just seems way too powerful (best case scenario you can confirm most townies in 2-3 nights). Gut says there is more to it...
LS you damn ninja 
So wait... DxS didn't actually do anything then?
Considering LS's statements I am willing to believe he didn't do anything in regards to the votes.
DeathxShinigami is pseudo-mafia if he isn't really one. By that I mean there are always a handful of players in all of these games who actively contribute to the agenda of the mafia. See: animask, quaraezha
For example, he read all of this and chose not to post (saw him lurking). Day 1 he chose not to roleclaim even when he was going to be lynched (mafia tell). Also in day 1, he helped mafia by purposely building up suspicion on himself.
It's just frustrating to have to waste days on policy lynches, or to have players inherently immune to suspicion, when town could actually win games easily if it wasn't for gameplay like this. Newsflash: if you aren't mafia and you have a bomb ability, it helps town to share that information. Day 1, the chances of being hammered by a mafia player are nil.
I can't just keep assuming that people are bad though. I will give you the benefit of the doubt and change my mind yet again.
unvote, vote:DeathxShinigami
For example, he read all of this and chose not to post (saw him lurking). Day 1 he chose not to roleclaim even when he was going to be lynched (mafia tell). Also in day 1, he helped mafia by purposely building up suspicion on himself.
It's just frustrating to have to waste days on policy lynches, or to have players inherently immune to suspicion, when town could actually win games easily if it wasn't for gameplay like this. Newsflash: if you aren't mafia and you have a bomb ability, it helps town to share that information. Day 1, the chances of being hammered by a mafia player are nil.
I can't just keep assuming that people are bad though. I will give you the benefit of the doubt and change my mind yet again.
unvote, vote:DeathxShinigami
I'm going to wait what DxS has to say on this. I'm willing to lynch him however.
What would you like me to say to the host N2?
Regardless of if you believe me or not, as it is now I appear to be Town's only option. You either take your lead or you go in blind again and possibly lynch another important player.
Chances are I'm going to be NK'd, however if I am that would confirm my list so either way it works out.
Regardless of if you believe me or not, as it is now I appear to be Town's only option. You either take your lead or you go in blind again and possibly lynch another important player.
Chances are I'm going to be NK'd, however if I am that would confirm my list so either way it works out.
Prod: DxS (and anyone else that qualifies.)
prodded Haneii, DxS, and rust45
also
Vote Count
DxS (1) - Two
also
Vote Count
DxS (1) - Two
Ugh, sorry about not posting.
Chris' roleclaim and info are interesting. But it does seem rather OP. For now, I think we should see how the mafia reacts to his claim before we try to analyze it.
And large games make it kinda hard to keep track everyone at once.
Chris' roleclaim and info are interesting. But it does seem rather OP. For now, I think we should see how the mafia reacts to his claim before we try to analyze it.
And large games make it kinda hard to keep track everyone at once.
Please tell us rust, who are the Mafia? It wouldn't be just me to want to know who is and who isn't.rust45 wrote:
For now, I think we should see how the mafia reacts to his claim before we try to analyze it.
Fuck, Two did explain his stuff. I really need to read more carefully. Anyway, Chris' ability seems insanely overpowered. Though, I suppose LadySuburu's justification for it sort of works... meh, idk.
He probably means by their kills if you aren't being sarcastic.
Was thinking of asking Two, rust45, Wojjan, and LS's roles, but I'm not sure if I'm thinking things right.
Was thinking of asking Two, rust45, Wojjan, and LS's roles, but I'm not sure if I'm thinking things right.
he said he can send a statement and get told if it's true or false, and 2 out of 4 of those people already told you their roles so it would be a waste even if he could actually ask
asking by I mean, asking, not lie detecting
Two, I still want an answer for this:
LunaticMara wrote:
Wait.... Two just posted 4 times already. Did he just lie about his role?
you're not gonna get one bud
it's your job to read the thread
it's your job to read the thread
and bmin do you know something about chris' role that we don't? I don't think he ever mentioned anything about asking, cause if he could simply ask a question why did he bother with only a statement? he could have just asked "who are the mafia?"
*facepalm* I meant by asking rust45 and Wojjan if they would want to role claim or not, not lie detecting by using Chris's ability. My bad if my posts were awfully worded.
Vote: DxS
Also, I propose we lynch chris in three days if he isn't nk'd- it would be disastrous if he were mafia.
Dunno about having rust45 and wojjan roleclaim- on one hand it's good for us to know, on the other it'll let the mafia know who to nk first.
Also, I propose we lynch chris in three days if he isn't nk'd- it would be disastrous if he were mafia.
Dunno about having rust45 and wojjan roleclaim- on one hand it's good for us to know, on the other it'll let the mafia know who to nk first.
I'm all for thisakrolsmir wrote:
Also, I propose we lynch chris in three days if he isn't nk'd- it would be disastrous if he were mafia
wrong shade doesn't countTwo wrote:
I'm all for thisakrolsmir wrote:
Also, I propose we lynch chris in three days if he isn't nk'd- it would be disastrous if he were mafia
Oh, if you want a roleclaim out of me by all means force it so. Right now I am actually pretty interested in hearing from DxS because he's been lurking like shit and he probably picked me as a role option. META YAY META YAY YAY
I'm still left wondering why Ls' ability would in any case be applicable to a townie, seeing as the secrecy and ocnfusion using it generates, as long as the possibilty to rerail lynches at the last second makes it more of a liability than a useful skill.
Based on my own speculation as to why I'd be given a role like this as town (Excluding role flavor), would be that basically I'm a day vote theif whose extra vote is used in secret as opposed to publicly in thread. This does give me the ability to prevent early hammers from others, as well as move away votes that someone I consider mafia has onto another target. However, as you've mentioned it is a role of limited use which is why I claimed once people were getting confused over what happened. The confusion it can create would rarely be helpful (only if I manage to pull off an unlikely gambit early), whereas the extra vote is helpful.Wojjan wrote:
Oh, if you want a roleclaim out of me by all means force it so. Right now I am actually pretty interested in hearing from DxS because he's been lurking like shit and he probably picked me as a role option. META YAY META YAY YAY
I'm still left wondering why Ls' ability would in any case be applicable to a townie, seeing as the secrecy and ocnfusion using it generates, as long as the possibilty to rerail lynches at the last second makes it more of a liability than a useful skill.
That being said, having already claimed if I plan to use my role I'll be stating my intentions in the thread.