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Silver Forest - PORUTA ~ gaisuto no himatsubushi

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Topic Starter
Eirene
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on mardi 10 novembre 2009 at 19:30:11

Artist: Silver Forest
Title: PORUTA ~ gaisuto no himatsubushi
Tags: Touhou
BPM: 116
Filesize: 6431kb
Play Time: 03:09
Difficulties Available:
  1. Hard (4,57 stars, 346 notes)
  2. Normal (2,88 stars, 173 notes)
Download: Silver Forest - PORUTA ~ gaisuto no himatsubushi
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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3rd map
still Silver Forest
but a little more calm :D
I hope you like piano ;)
Kurai
Un ptit mod ne fait pas de mal :Þ

[Hard]
00:24:18 (5) - Hum... sa ne sonne pas bien je trouve
00:25:86 (x) - Ajoute une note
00:28:58 (x) - ^
00:56:90 (1) - Revoit la note la, elle sonne très mal !
Le reste est parfait donc :

☼STAR☼
Alice
Hard
00:21:98 (1,2,3) - blah triangle équilatéral
01:38:53 (4) - finish
01:39:57 (6) - finish (début)
Topic Starter
Eirene
Alice -> modifications faite ... ça rend mieux en effet, merci
kudosu :)

( btw; triangle = 3 points non alignés xD, je suppose que tu voulais dire "triangle équilatéral" non ?)
Sushi
02:19:14 (3) - symétrie.
02:28:19 (3) - mets moi ça au milieu s'il te plait.


Fin des mods sur IRC

C'est tout sinon. c'est vraiment pas mal o/
Alice
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
subarasikibuta
star :)
dkey
☆~
Scar
~~~
Antithese_old
Parce que ta Normal est vraiment bien, propre (pas comme la mienne), toussa ...

*Star*
Alice
La normale est magnifique. Rien à dire , ce serait du gros nazi je pense.
Andrea
Mod Info's:

Green: Suggestions, you don't have to fix, your choice.
Orange: You don't have to fix too, but is better if you do it.
Red: You have to fix this for sure!

Starts Suggestions:

- Set a preview point on all diff's.

[Normal]

00:21:98 (4) - New combo.
02:50:17 (3) - This slider is completely hidden.

[Hard]

00:34:91 (1) - Remove new combo.
01:54:18 (4,5,6,7,8) - Resnap these notes correctly.
01:56:25 (4,5,6,7,8,9) - ^

02:42:16 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Unexpected jump.
03:07:76 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - This change of spacing can confuse.
Topic Starter
Eirene
thanks for the mod, all points corrected except for the last :
03:07:76 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - This change of spacing can confuse.
it's true it was a bit confuse, but I want to keep a larger spacing for this part so I just changed the pattern for a more "clear" end.
Luneko
Nice map ^^
Star~
Dusty
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
Alice
Gogo Eirene >A</ *shoots*
krius_old
Starred ~ :)
anonymous_old
Normal
SPOILER

01:57:16 (1,2) : Instead of 2 sliders, just make one long one.

Hard
SPOILER

01:51:34 : Add a beat here. Whistle hitsound.
01:51:60 : Add a beat here. Whistle hitsound.
01:51:85 : Remove this beat.
02:47:59 (4,5) : Extreme jump.

Very good.
Kytoxid
[Normal]

01:55:02 (2) - Shift this slider to be 1/8 earlier.
01:57:16 (1,2) - Don't think this really merits seperation.
02:53:02 (1) - Increase the volume on a seperate timing section placed earlier, in case the note is hit early.

[Hard]

00:23:53 (4) - Alignment with 5 is slightly off.
02:39:31 (4,5) - Not really an obvious jump.
02:46:81 (3,4,5) - A bit confusing.

Very cool maps and song overall though, starred. :)
Topic Starter
Eirene
01:55:02 (2) - Shift this slider to be 1/8 earlier.
"fixed"
01:57:16 (1,2) - Don't think this really merits seperation.
I will join these two sliders only if the map is "unrankable" with
but I set the volume to ~10% because of the sound which was a little strange

00:23:53 (4) - Alignment with 5 is slightly off.
fixed
02:39:31 (4,5) - Not really an obvious jump.
02:46:81 (3,4,5) - A bit confusing.
I won't change that , I can't take off all difficult jumps of the map ... there is no insane diff so I want it to be "Hard/Hard+" and not "Normal+"

thanks for your help :)
Armin
[Normal]

00:17:850 Remove the whistle at the start
00:18:884 Whistle at the end
00:19:918 remove the whistle at the start
00:36:729 whistle at the end
00:24:315 whistle at the end
01:21:471 whistle
00:39:056 (2,4) Whistles at the start
01:11:643 ^
01:28:712 whistle at the end
01:29:746 remove the whistle at the start; add a whistle at the end instead
02:21:470 whistle
02:50:953 ^

[Hard]

00:21:987 (1,3) whistles
00:27:677 remove the whistle in the middle
00:31:039 whistle at the end
00:43:970 remove the whistle in the middle
00:50:177 ^
01:22:246 ^
01:31:815 whistle
01:33:367 ^
02:50:952 ^
Topic Starter
Eirene
thanks Armin, a great mod !
I would like to give yo 10 kudos, unfortunately I can't xD.
all "fixed" except
01:29:746 remove the whistle at the start; add a whistle at the end instead
and
01:22:246
there is neither "middle" nor whistle
Inozuma
Je ne peux pas mod la map, mais j'ai beaucoup aime la jouer.

Bref,
Star.
al2e10
By Al2e10's Mod

Good map !!

[Hard]
00:54:832 (5) remove clap
01:09:574 (3) I think finish is better ~
01:42:677 (6) add finish
02:29:229 (5) remove finish

[Normal]
01:08:539 (7) New combo
01:48:884 (1) finish
02:29:229 (5) ^
Topic Starter
Eirene
thanks Al2e10, all done, it's better now
Cyril Scarlet
:D Silver Forest ♪
Ema Skye
fine map >A</ star =)
Lissette
Normal
02:59:048 (2) - make it end at 03:00:0000
03:00:026 (3) - remove repeat then move the slider to the next blue tick and add finish on the end point

Hard
00:24:031 (6) - end point at 00:24:057, then add note here 00:24:083
01:51:034 (8,9) - move to the next white tick, if you do.......
01:51:085 - add note
02:17:085 (1,2,3) - wrong spacing, (1) put it more separate from (2)
02:50:017 (5) - new combo? 'cuz the spacing changes

Nice map, nice song!
Star
Topic Starter
Eirene
Normal
02:59:048 (2) - make it end at 03:00:0000 done
03:00:026 (3) - remove repeat then move the slider to the next blue tick and add finish on the end point done

Hard
00:24:031 (6) - end point at 00:24:057, then add note here 00:24:083 done
01:51:034 (8,9) - move to the next white tick, if you do....... I won't change that
01:51:085 - add note
02:17:085 (1,2,3) - wrong spacing, (1) put it more separate from (2) done
02:50:017 (5) - new combo? 'cuz the spacing changes I added a new "new combo" after, I want to keep the same color for all circles of this pattern
thanks :D
Natsu gami
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Krisom
Lovely song.

I'd only remove whistle from the middle at 01:22:024 in hard.

Star!
Topic Starter
Eirene
hey Krisom, there is no whistle on this slider ! :D
thanks .
aerisu_old
Yop

Ta map est cool dans l'ensemble ( j'ai faite que la hard ). Je pense que ça serait bien si tu donnais encore plus d'accent quand le piano "s'affirme" et deviens plus imposant, en augmentant le spacing ( jvois plus ça comme les dernières notes de la map
niveau spacing dans les grandes envolée )

quelques suggestions :

A 1:54:101, map sur le piano comme ce que tu as fait jusqu'à présent : ajoute une note, fait commencé le stream plus tôt, et cale les notes sur le piano.

1:55:100 : map sur le piano aussi, là ton slider commence trop tôt et est complètement décalé par rapport au piano. Supprime le temps d'arret entre les sliders, le piano joue en continue. Pareil pour le stream qui suit, rajoute des notes pour que ça colle sur la piano, là ya que la dernière note qui colle.

1:57:289 : à partir du 2, tes sliders sont en retard, et tu supprime encore des notes de piano

2:34:300 : du 7 au 11, j'ai eu l'impression en jouant que c'est décalé, mais en passant au ralentis, ça va ( mais je trouve ces jumps étrange quand même )

3:04:660 : je changerais le timing du 2 et du 4, je trouve qu'il sont tres légèrement en retard
whymeman
Remember, some of the errors posted are suggestions, not directions. Edit to what you see fit.

Non-Detailed Modding v.1.0 Go~


[Normal]

01:26:64 (5,6,7) - Compared to the setup of the notes before, these look really compacted together and not as neat.

[Hard]

01:49:53 (2) - Looks kinda odd with it half way in under the slider.
01:50:56 (5) - ^

Overall: Seems good so far. Just some minor stuff to look into make sure to double check the map over again for anything that you want to add or change.
Topic Starter
Eirene
[Normal]

01:26:64 (5,6,7) - Compared to the setup of the notes before, these look really compacted together and not as neat.
I spaced a bit more, it's better you are right.

[Hard]

01:49:53 (2) - Looks kinda odd with it half way in under the slider.
01:50:56 (5) - ^
well, it's hard to change this without change the timeline. I will think about this, maybe change their position.
but for me it is not odd, you might not be used to this type of pattern. to be refractory to the newness is so bad xD

in any case, thanks for spent your time looking at my map :)

EDIT : 2nd point corrected.

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@aerisu :
A 1:54:101, map sur le piano comme ce que tu as fait jusqu'à présent : ajoute une note, fait commencé le stream plus tôt, et cale les notes sur le piano.

1:55:100 : map sur le piano aussi, là ton slider commence trop tôt et est complètement décalé par rapport au piano. Supprime le temps d'arret entre les sliders, le piano joue en continue. Pareil pour le stream qui suit, rajoute des notes pour que ça colle sur la piano, là ya que la dernière note qui colle.

1:57:289 : à partir du 2, tes sliders sont en retard, et tu supprime encore des notes de piano
je sais pas si tu te rend compte que le piano est en "free style" sur cette partie et ça va très vite", les changements que tu me demande nécessite un timing "bizarre" et le résultat l'est encore plus a jouer. je sais pas si tu te rend compte mais à cette vitesse avoir un truc pas régulier serait vraiment terrible a jouer. et pour les sliders c'est à peu près le même problème; comment veux tu que je fasse un truc clair en suivant exactement le piano, quand tu le joues, la différence n'est pas vraiment choquante, je me contente de suivre l'évolution globale du rythme, d'ailleurs il n'y a que toi qui m'ait fait une remarque sur ce passage...la map ne se joue pas à vitesse 25%.

2:34:300 : du 7 au 11, j'ai eu l'impression en jouant que c'est décalé, mais en passant au ralentis, ça va ( mais je trouve ces jumps étrange quand même )

3:04:660 : je changerais le timing du 2 et du 4, je trouve qu'il sont tres légèrement en retard
là encore c'est le piano qui est le problème, il est censé être dans le rythme, ie 116 BPM, mais c'est une personne qui joue le piano ... , il n'y a pas de changement à faire, la personne qui joue la map est habitué à ce rythme et ne peut pas prévoir ces millisecondes de décalage, je pense que ça serait une faute de modifier ça; c'est un jeux de rythme, le but n'est pas de prévoir les micro-erreurs de l'interprète.
aerisu_old
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
Zekira
Offset: 17842

Other than that, that's it for now.
Alice


Hope you'll like it

J'ai testé le comboburst en jeu, je trouve qu'il rend très bien, mais si tu ne l'aimes pas libre à toi de le laisser dans son coin. (aussi je sais y'a une petite trace sur le côté mais c'est la continuation du dessin et elle se voit a peine en jeu comme tu vas le constater si tu décides de tester)
J'aurais voulu skinner plus mais comme je te dis, pour moi comboburst le minimum haha.. De toute y'aurais eu un spinner dans la map j'aurais fais un effort pour le faire, mais je me sens pas bien du tout ce soir pour faire le reste (je manque d'imagination), a la limite si ta map n'est pas rankée d'ici demain soir je pourrais tenter 2-3 trucs que tu rajoutes si ça te plait, mais là je suis en bouillie.. Enfin tu dois pas trop t'en inquieter puisque tu supprimes les skins, je dis juste ça comme ça bien sûr.
pieguyn
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ouranhshc
Normal
03:00:385(3) - maybe start this 1 red tick later. IMO

Hard
01:37:497(2,3,4,5,6) - align all this. Is this supposed to be "W" shaped
01:41:635(5) - align with (4)

I hope you found this helpful

star
kino77
Em~Really good song&map~
Starstar~>w<
Topic Starter
Eirene
Normal
03:00:385(3) - maybe start this 1 red tick later. IMO
I won't change...

Hard
01:37:497(2,3,4,5,6) - align all this. Is this supposed to be "W" shaped this is not supposed to be a W pattern...
01:41:635(5) - align with (4) why should I align this ? ... it is just a point of view, I consider that an "orthogonal" map is ugly...
in any case ... thanks ... even if it didn't help me a lot :)
jericho2442
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Topic Starter
Eirene
01:33:087 (3,4) - your spacing is a lil out, using destance snap, fix the spacing then also you could line up (3) with (2) it would look much better
01:53:001 (1,2,1,2) - hard part for timing, and tbh your feels a bit weird, ok i'll try to help you with this
'''''''''''''''
01:53:001 (1) - shorten this slider one tick on the timeline so that it ends on a white tick, sounds much more intime
01:55:001 (2) - ok on 1/8 you wanna shorten the end of this slider by one tick so that it ends on the red tick, keep the start where it is though
01:57:015 (1) - ok now on 1/4 shorten this one by one tick, then move the whole of (2) slider back one tick and then make it longer by one tick
a minor change done...


01:53:001 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6) - this part again, the timing is off on many notes, but to mod this in text like this would be impossable, what i will say is, knock the speed down to 50% and make 100% sure each note is hitting correctly on where its meant to, you "may" need to use 1/8 to get this part perfectly timed, but its very important to pefect this part, due to playability
already refused, I want not the map to be impossible =_=, I think it's better if there is a regular rate. and moreover, you don't play at 50% I hope .... you have just to look at osu! playing the map to see that is not weird. I only correct one more time the spacing
aerisu_old
I think it IS weird though ;)
Topic Starter
Eirene
I think it IS weird though ;)
:p
Takuma
Nice song/map. Bubbled!
Mafiamaster
Nice song/map. Ranked!
Alice
Yeah; grats Eirene~
Topic Starter
Eirene
champagne for all; great party to celebrate this xD

thanks everyone who helped me :)

let's go to rank an other map together :P
GabrielRKF
Awesome song.
So beautiful.
It's already on my celphone
Shiro -
Love this song..it is by far one of my favorite song in osu!!! :) :)
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