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Lucidity

nardi11011 wrote:

Here is my current suspicion list, brought to you by random.org:

1. kuwarudo
2. YellowYoshi1
3. oyeah1988
4. Lucidity
5. Doom
6. Agent
7. YoshiKart
8. Rabid
9. strager
10. foulcoon
11. Pasonia
12. thepianist
13. adam2046
14. Wojjan
15. Lilyko
16. 0_o
17. Saturos-fangirl
18. nardi11011
19. Rolled
20. rust45
21. Derekku
22. Azure_Kyte
23. Two
24. Todesengal
25. neo@lex
What a coincidence, that random list got all 5 of the Aliens at the top there ;o Mod must've used the same generator and it must not truly be random D:
anonymous_old

Lucidity wrote:

What a coincidence, that random list got all 5 of the Aliens at the top there ;o Mod must've used the same generator and it must not truly be random D:
Wait, I'm not in the top five... =[
LadySuburu
Against my better judgement, I offer to replace in for that guy who hasn't confirmed.
0_o
^yay
Two_old
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Wojjan

nardi11011 wrote:

Here is my current suspicion list, brought to you by random.org:

1. kuwarudo
2. YellowYoshi1
3. oyeah1988
4. Lucidity
5. Doom
6. Agent
7. YoshiKart
8. Rabid
9. strager
10. foulcoon
11. Pasonia
12. thepianist
13. adam2046
14. Wojjan
15. Lilyko
16. 0_o
17. Saturos-fangirl
18. nardi11011
19. Rolled
20. rust45
21. Derekku
22. Azure_Kyte
23. Two
24. Todesengal
25. neo@lex
Why are you less suspicious of certain people than yourself?
Also, the irony of Kuu being on top is too much to bear
Topic Starter
AceOfArrows

LadySuburu wrote:

Against my better judgement, I offer to replace in for that guy who hasn't confirmed.
o.o O rly?

In that case, I has an ultimatum for Rabid Wombat.

If he does not confirm within the next 24 hours (5:19 PM EST on July 31st), he shall be replaced by our good Lady Suburu, and Suburu shall receive Wombat's role.

A<3 has spoken.
Cuddlebun
oh thank GOD let's get this show on the road so we can lynch kuu decide who to vote.
Azure_Kite

Ace Of Hearts wrote:

A<3 has spoken.
Dun Dun DAAAN!

let's get this fragfest started ;p
kuwarudo

Todesengal wrote:

oh thank GOD let's get this show on the road so we can lynch kuu decide who to vote.
Oh sure lynch me again

You saw what happened in Game 2
Azure_Kite

kuwarudo wrote:

Oh sure lynch me again
isn't that kuu bullying?

or is he the vote puller?
0_o

Azure_Kyte wrote:

kuwarudo wrote:

Oh sure lynch me again
isn't that kuu bullying?

or is he the vote puller?
He just had a history of being annoying :P

I think he's over that now though...
Azure_Kite
I see. well good luck to everybody! :D
Two_old

Azure_Kyte wrote:

I see. well good luck to everybody! :D
alien

humans aren't that nice
Azure_Kite

Two wrote:

Azure_Kyte wrote:

humans aren't that nice
oh really? I've always believed in the milk of human kindness. Now I'm classified as an alien because of that...?
kuwarudo

Azure_Kyte wrote:

Two wrote:

Azure_Kyte wrote:

humans aren't that nice
oh really? I've always believed in the milk of human kindness. Now I'm classified as an alien because of that...?

Strange circumstances may occur to make that statement true
Cuddlebun
what is the milk of human kindness
Azure_Kite

Todesengal wrote:

what is the milk of human kindness?
Is that sarcasm? It's an expression describing the kindness in every person's heart.
YoshiKart
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Azure_Kite

YoshiKart wrote:

Humans --> Milk --> Cows --> Abduction --> Aliens

Huh...

Talk about taking it way out of context. XD
Rolled
Can we just pretend it is D1 and get this going :(
Lucidity

Azure_Kyte wrote:

Todesengal wrote:

what is the milk of human kindness?
Is that sarcasm? It's an expression describing the kindness in every person's heart.
How is milk related to a person's heart? I'm on to you.
RemixRave

Rolled wrote:

Can we just pretend it is D1 and get this going :(
Yeah srsly this is taking way way way too long.
Just give Rabid Wombat's role to LadySuburu.
We all know s/he will take this seriously
EDIT Misspelled "suburu"
Derekku

Rolled wrote:

Can we just pretend it is D1 and get this going :(
Some people are already interrogating others like it's D1, so feel free to go ahead and start :P
nardii

Rolled wrote:

Can we just pretend it is D1 and get this going :(
Vote Rolled for being impatient
0_o
it's only 4 more hours guys :P

we can start playing now, we just can't place official votes yet.
Neo@lex
Uhh, I'm sorry, but I kinda forgot I'm going on holiday for a few weeks...
If possible, I'd like to remain in the game, but if it can't be helped I'll quit.
nardii

neo@lex wrote:

Uhh, I'm sorry, but I kinda forgot I'm going on holiday for a few weeks...
If possible, I'd like to remain in the game, but if it can't be helped I'll quit.
Well now we need ANOTHER replacement or role transfer :|
Topic Starter
AceOfArrows
*sits down with his tea* Okay guys, here's what going on at the moment.

I am now just as impatient as you all are, and it's been several days with no response from Rabid Wombat, and when I woke up (at 1 in the afternoon) and saw no response in my PM box from him, I became ready.

I'm gonna go ahead and declare that LadySuburu is going to get Rabid Wombat's role.

Once I send the role and Suburu confirms, we'll kick things off.
Topic Starter
AceOfArrows
Okay, the Role ID is sent.

Rabid Wombat is now bereft of his place; as soon as I can get a confirm from Suburu, I will declare the start of Day 1.

Edit-in: For those curious about the order of my list: I thought you all knew? The list is in order of when I received your signups.
Two_old
hallelujah
anonymous_old

Ace Of Hearts wrote:

Edit-in: For those curious about the order of my list: I thought you all knew? The list is in order of when I received your signups.
Duh?
Topic Starter
AceOfArrows
Shit. Guys, we have a problem.

And it's my fault (I think so anyway).

Rabid Wombat just confirmed, but so did LadySuburu.

Suburu's came first, but I did tell Wombat 5:something today, and I did not wait as promised.

*thinks hard for a few moments* Wombat, and Suburu, please get in touch with each other and decide who is playing. It is my understanding that Suburu made her offer reluctantly, and seeing as Rabid did reply before my ultimatum was technically up, I should give him a chance to play if he really wants it.
RemixRave

neo@lex wrote:

Uhh, I'm sorry, but I kinda forgot I'm going on holiday for a few weeks...
If possible, I'd like to remain in the game, but if it can't be helped I'll quit.
There's our answer. Give Suburu Neo@lex's role
Cuddlebun
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Two_old
no, he didn't reply before it was up

you ended it before ladysuburu was even on afaik, since I saw her/his username on the bottom of the forum about 16 minutes after you posted it

it's ridiculous to waste more time
kuwarudo
I'd like to see Rabid Wombat, with his verbose answers
Topic Starter
AceOfArrows
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Yuukari-Banteki
we could just lynch neo D1 ;o
Rolled

Saturos-fangirl wrote:

we could just lynch neo D1 ;o
Not going to happen.
Yuukari-Banteki

Rolled wrote:

Saturos-fangirl wrote:

we could just lynch neo D1 ;o
Not going to happen.
pay attention to emoticons plz

Edit: also #mafia
Rolled
Alright, I'm aware the game didn't start yet, etc. However I wanted to make sure I was the first to voice my beliefs in this thread (can't risk the chance of being AFK). This vote will most likely not be official (however, I don't mind if it is official. I will not be changing my vote) but on day 1 my vote will be towards SFG.

Everybody who has been paying attention to this game knows that there has been plenty of behind-the-scenes work going on right after confirmation PMs were sent out. Almost immediately, I talked to SFG because let's face it; she is a good player. I would have loved for her to be on the human side, and if she was a wolf, I knew she would be a huge threat (which has been proven true thus far. I am aware SFG has talked to a handful of you, and if you haven't talked to me, it's pretty likely that you believe she has an Aux role.)Anyways, I have ample ample ample information to back up that she is a wolf. If you are interested in this information, please PM me. I'm not going to make it public, and will only tell you the information if you give me reason to believe you are human.

Also, if it wasn't clear by now, role claim: Vanilla Civilian

note to A<3: I don't believe I'm violating any rules because as I've said I don't consider my vote being official. It's just a heads-up to the other players of what I plan on doing at the start of day 1.
Azure_Kite

Lucidity wrote:

I'm on to you.
The feeling's completely mutual.
anonymous_old

Azure_Kyte wrote:

Lucidity wrote:

I'm on to you.
The feeling's completely mutual.
So you're onto yourself?
Azure_Kite

strager wrote:

So you're onto yourself?
...yes, that's exactly it.

*sigh* Ima be the first lynched now for being unintentionally unclear in all my statements.
anonymous_old

Azure_Kyte wrote:

*sigh* Ima be the first lynched now for being unintentionally unclear in all my statements.
;P
Cuddlebun
way to completely ignore Rolled you guys now his feelings will be hurt
anonymous_old

Todesengal wrote:

way to completely ignore Rolled you guys now his feelings will be hurt
He's ignoring my PM's or is busy.
Yuukari-Banteki
I'm sorry Rolled, I still don't see why not being a civilian and claiming a civilian for the safety it offers makes me automatically a wolf. I also don't understand how you can be so sure that I'm a wolf - there is no evidence yet to confirm or deny ANY SINGLE ROLE. That evidence will come either when vigs shoot, when the priest rez's, or when information is received from night actions. You know as well as I am that we are both strong players. I make it a policy when I play to keep the strong players alive as best I can until I know for sure which side they fall on.

You, however, seem perfectly eager to lynch someone who is both a strong player and an aux on Day 1. So far the reasons you have given that I know of are 1. that i didnt know your "civilian code" (something which as far as I can tell, no one understands but you) and 2. You grilled me until I lost my head. You forget that pounding someone will get a result whether they are guilty or not.

taking control and being unchallenged tends to benefit the mafia rather than the town, also. Which is what Rolled was doing.

Care to explain yourself, Rolled?
Yuukari-Banteki

Todesengal wrote:

way to completely ignore Rolled you guys now his feelings will be hurt
i was afk for five hours what do you expect
Rolled
SFG, you only started claiming aux when I busted you after claiming vanilla. I guess your reasoning could be some-what valid, saying you didn't want to reveal you had an aux role to a potential wolf. However I've proven myself to you that I am not a wolf, and I'm sure you could tell just from my conversation with you alone that I am just a human trying to gather up the rest.

It disappointed you when you realized that I had numerous other vanillas with me right off the bat. Because you thought the questioning I was feeding you was BS. Hence, you insisted on still claiming vanilla because one of the strongest strategies to go on in these games is to lynch all liars (which you are, and have lied.) However, when you were questioned from another angle you realized that claiming vanilla would not work. Therefore you claimed a defensive Aux role. Which I told you, claiming an aux to me was the only way I'd believe you however you were too deep in the hole to dig yourself out any time soon.

There has been holes in your stories left and right and you know it. I will glady fill you in on any you may have missed once the game is over.

You know you crack under pressure SFG. You've said it yourself, and I have cracked you. The rest of the wolves will fall shortly after you, keep no doubt in your mind.

edit: let me just throw in here that you never wanted to claim aux to me because you thought I was a werewolf? You just publicly claimed an aux role SFG, for all the wolves to hear. Lets break this down:
Okay, let's say you are a human. You just now announced you have an aux role and believe you are a valuable player. Hell, you played a huge part in Pasonia's WWG an caused the wolves to cry. The last thing the wolves would want to do is keep you around in this game.

The above example isn't a problem at all though. Because the REAL reasoning you just claimed an aux is to keep you from getting lynched by civilians. You know damn well that you have no consequences from claiming an aux role because your pack of wolves will not kill you off for claiming such a thing. Hopefully the other civilians will see this in your post and do the right thing on day 1.

Your originally reasoning of claiming vanilla to me via PM is because you didn't want me, who you "thought" is a wolf to kill you off for having an aux.. Now you just confessed to every single player that you have an aux role? I think not.

What was that.. you mentioned it to me earlier...
<SFG|Rh> self-preservation is scumtell

Oh, yeah.

SFG is a wolf


edit: typos.
anonymous_old

Rolled wrote:

Which I told you, claiming an aux to me was the only way I'd believe you
Rolehunting? Although this benefits either site, it helps the Aliens more than it does the Humans.

I don't have much to comment on the rest at the moment.
kuwarudo
Walls of text bore me D:
adam2046
He said by that point he already believed that SFG was a wolf, he was asking her to claim to observe her or something along those lines.
anonymous_old

adam2046 wrote:

He said by that point he already believed that SFG was a wolf, he was asking her to claim to observe her or something along those lines.
He said she already claimed.

I think.
Rolled
tldr:
SFG did not want to claim an aux role to me because she thought I was a wolf. She claimed vanilla, and I proved to her that I knew she was not vanilla.
I brought my suspicion towards SFG to this thread
SFG then claimed Aux PUBLICLY, which was against her original reasoning for not claiming it to me.

SFG had nothing to be worried about claiming Aux in the thread, because wolves are not a threat to her as she is a wolf. The only effect she planned on receiving from claiming Aux is to get some human lynch-votes off of her back.
Topic Starter
AceOfArrows
There's nothing in my PMBox. Suburu, Wombat, one of you needs to PM me and tell me you two talked! I can't start things until someone says there's been a discussion and a decision!!!
Two_old
why don't you freaking make a decision yourself

my god
Yuukari-Banteki
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Two_old
that was a pretty big waste of time, sfg

his arguments against you were made of steel
Yuukari-Banteki

Two wrote:

that was a pretty big waste of time, sfg

his arguments against you were made of steel
so you're perfectly willing to kill an aux right on D1. welp, i wish you guys best of luck in defeating the wolves or aliens or whatever the fuck they are.
Two_old
actually yes, I am

I had already planned to vote for you in the next game immediately after pasonia's game, regardless of what happened. You just talk too much to be worth keeping alive; too risky if you're a wolf. The fact that you have a giant pile of evidence against you is just icing on the cake.
0_o
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anonymous_old

Two wrote:

I had already planned to vote for you in the next game immediately after pasonia's game, regardless of what happened.
What the fuck.

That's not playing the game.

Two wrote:

You just talk too much to be worth keeping alive
???

So a game full of lurkers is the best strategy? We'll never win that way.

Two wrote:

The fact that you have a giant pile of evidence against you is just icing on the cake.

Two wrote:

his arguments against you were made of steel
I see only one argument against SFG, and it has holes, which have clearly been pointed out by SFG.
anonymous_old
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Two_old
oh cool, strager's an alien too
anonymous_old
diaf 0_o
foulcoon
Ace is an alien, keel him.
Echo

Two wrote:

I had already planned to vote for you in the next game immediately after pasonia's game, regardless of what happened.
You're voting her because she "talks too much", in other words not because she's likely a wolf/mafia/whatever, but just because you're biased against her for reasons outside the game? W. T. F.

SFG wrote:

There has been holes in your stories left and right and you know it. I will glady fill you in on any you may have missed once the game is over.
Holes that you made, yes. It's called "scumpainting."
Actually, it's called "setting up a straw man" - not quite the same thing imo


(mod: the game hasn't started yet, so I guess it's still ok for me to post? if you think i said too much or if it's just not ok just ask me or a mod to delete this)
adam2046
Geez guys...
You vote Kuu all the time and were prepared to lynch him "cause he's annoying"
Echo
that's different

kuu is (no offense) a very inattentive player
sfg is a good player
adam2046
Good at being a wolf?
I feel it's like "I think it's too dangerous to have her alive this game no matter what." or something
Echo
All "good" players are good as both town and scum. If you go by that thinking, then by all means kill all the "good" players, then this game can rot like BM1 since there'll only be lurkers left.

Does "lynch [someone] because he is good" even sound remotely right to you?
adam2046
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anonymous_old

adam2046 wrote:

You're not going to change his mind I bet.
Because there's no mind to change.
Mashley
I've heard a lot from both SFG and Rolled, and I beleive they are both humans, just Rolled likes jumping to conclusions.
nardii
I will probably vote for SFG day 1 too, as everything I've heard about her (mostly what Rolled has shown me) is very suspicious, especially compared to her behavior in previous games. Until SFG brings in some more convincing arguments (and maybe an actual role claim), she is in my opinion the most likely wolf up until now.

Also, the "civilian code" does exist. It's pretty simple actually, so anyone that's a civilian is pretty likely to figure it out.
kuwarudo
All you guys get pissed when I post

All you guys get pissed when I don't post

God.

There's no way I can please you guys is there
adam2046
Didn't we already do this gag?
Wojjan
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anonymous_old
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Rolled
So if somebody agrees with me they are simply a follower and a sheep.

@Wojjan: As I've said in my original post I have very valid information to back up my claims on SFG. I do not want this information public for reasons that will become clear if in fact I do tell you. I understand I am biased to my own opinions, however I am trying to put myself in others' shoes and I can't honestly understand how nobody is suspicious of SFG's actions that I have pointed out.

Come on, the only thing SFG has to save herself is "don't kill me pls I'm an aux" and "i lost my head being attacked."

...

are you serious?

Well if taking 1:1 is how you would like it, then go ahead. I assure you that one of us is a wolf, and I assure you it is not me.

Also, "holes that I've created" in your story SFG? The most humorous part of all of this is that you have told me to my face and have told other people that you do not think I am a wolf. Yet in this thread you have mentioned my "scumtells" left and right. You are doing the right thing SFG, when you realized that you are going to die D1, you knew the best way to get around it would be turn as many people against my theory as possible. You've done an okay job so far brainwashing a few people everything will become clear when some aux roles come out of the closet.

Oh, one more thing. If we actually have an insomniac in this game this will get one more person to see through your lies (however, actual insomniac please do not claim publicly)

[2009-07-30 21:39:40] <SFG|Rh> okay
[2009-07-30 21:39:46] <SFG|Rh> >_> im the Insomniac
[2009-07-30 21:40:09] <SFG|Rh> yes
[2009-07-30 21:40:17] <SFG|Rh> and why im being hypercautious
Two_old
Your originally reasoning of claiming vanilla to me via PM is because you didn't want me, who you "thought" is a wolf to kill you off for having an aux.. Now you just confessed to every single player that you have an aux role? I think not.
this is the main thing

claiming to be an aux in public to avoid being lynched=alien or idiot

I think we established that sfg isn't an idiot already

I've actually seen all of her conversations with rolled and she is, without a doubt, 100% alien

I'm also convinced that strager is an alien because of his initial posts+defense of sfg, but he isn't a threat so let's be smart and vote for sfg people
anonymous_old
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Rolled
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anonymous_old
Your attacks aren't enough to encriminate anyone IMO.

EDIT: *strager.
Two_old
Then you shouldn't need to defend her ^_^

they really need to teach critical thinking in public school
Rolled
Okay, in your opinion.

Now you are attacking nardi and Two for having an opinion of their own. (they believe my attacks are incriminating enough)

If they are my sheep, then you are SFG's sheep. The only difference is that my sheep are human.
adam2046
...I know there's a sheep f**ker joke in there somewhere.
Wojjan
Rolled, can you even consider how little sense you make with your claims? You're voting SFG because she's obviously wolfy. No proof. Then you ramble about your sheep and yourself being human. No proof. Can you at least prove something to us? Anything that makes you human, without doubt? And I'm not talking about the civvy code. It doesn't work the way you think it goes. I could call your bluff, but your zombies will lynch anyone off as long as you provide any half-baked reason. Do tell, is there even proof you talked to SFG in the first place? She was intending to vote you, and now you're making your vote public first, so Oh My God U Suck doesn't work. You just want to lynch of a powerful player and possible aux, with reason claiming aux? As echo said, killing off someone because they are a good player is dumb.
Two_old
are you selectively blind, Wojjan?

did you miss the part where she claimed to have an aux publicly, when she was against even doing so privately until her head was on the line?
Rolled
How do you suggest I convince you that I am human (vanilla human at that.)

There is nothing that I personally can do to convince that. You could listen to my conversation so far but that is basically all.

When it comes to the little-sense I am making, I'm not sure if you skipped my post or what.

Let me ask you, what benefit does SFG get for claiming an Aux role PUBLICLY?
RemixRave
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Rolled
It doesn't really work the same way, as me claiming Civilian would not save any lynch votes I might get. However, SFG claiming aux will most likely get some votes off her. In fact, it's the only thing she really can claim. She knows everybody knows she is not a vanilla, and she would not claim wolf. If she would claim Aux (insomniac, actually) then civilians may not want to vote for her due to the posibility of her having a valuable role. I'm asking you though to see through that lie with the information I've provided and take a wolf out of the game.
Yuukari-Banteki

Rolled wrote:

Well if taking 1:1 is how you would like it, then go ahead. I assure you that one of us is a wolf, and I assure you it is not me.
That kills two extremely powerful players who may very well both be human. Just because YOU are convinced that if I'm not one of your powerless civilians that I must be a wolf, doesn't mean that I am convinced that if you're trying to kill aux's on D1 that YOU'RE a wolf. For that matter, "eliminate the powerful players and move on" leads to a game where no one has a brain and the wolves win.
IS THAT REALLY WHAT YOU WANT?

From what I can tell, you're briefly scanning my arguments and then trying to counter them without even reading them. Did you notice that i have EVIDENCE to back my claims, in my posts, whereas you're bluntly stating your same opinions repeatedly? Do you always argue that way, with your teachers or your professors? Didn't think so. You're just planting your ass on your first argument and pretending that it magically supercedes all the holes in itself.

Also, Two, you have a history of voting on gut feelings and stupidity, and if your reasons are trusted here, they aren't even a bandwagon, just a random vote. Please don't join games if you don't intend to play them.
Yuukari-Banteki

Rolled wrote:

It doesn't really work the same way, as me claiming Civilian would not save any lynch votes I might get. However, SFG claiming aux will most likely get some votes off her. In fact, it's the only thing she really can claim. She knows everybody knows she is not a vanilla, and she would not claim wolf. If she would claim Aux (insomniac, actually) then civilians may not want to vote for her due to the posibility of her having a valuable role. I'm asking you though to see through that lie with the information I've provided and take a wolf out of the game.
I already explained this, please learn how to read.
Two_old
iirc my gut has been 100% correct so far

don't knock clairvoyance
adam2046
SFG, do you have proof you are an aux?
Yuukari-Banteki
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adam2046

Saturos-fangirl wrote:

Did you notice that i have EVIDENCE to back my claims, in my posts
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