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My global performance rank and raw pp is gone! [invalid]

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Syntaxis
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Joined November 2012
Topic Starter
Syntaxis
On my profile at osu.ppy.sh i can't see my global performance and i can't see my pp. Ingame osu i searched for syntaxis (me) and it only showed total score, no pp. Is it a bug or...?
Before this happened i had about 1700pp and had a rank #90 000.
Appreciate all the help i could get :)
MillhioreF
Pro Tester
5,004 posts
Joined July 2011
MillhioreF
Did you get your pp from newly ranked maps? It's possible that enough people beat your scores that you no longer had a single score giving you pp, and it disappeared entirely.
Syntaxis
2 posts
Joined November 2012
Topic Starter
Syntaxis
Possible, i've been only going for passing songs, not perfect them. I haven't got any good performance on any map. I'll see if i can gather som pp and see if that's the problem :D
Thanks anyway :D
Oinari-sama
osu! Alumni
3,403 posts
Joined July 2010
Oinari-sama
I don't know if this is related but I'll post and report anyway.

Just now (13:30 UTC) my raw pp is gone from the osu.ppy.sh profile page. My Global Rank is still showing though:



CTRL+F5 didn't fix it. There must be something going on at the server side. My pp is displayed correctly in game though.

It doesn't really bother me but I thought I'll post just in case others are having the same problem.
peppy
19,374 posts
Here since the beginning
peppy
I removed it.
Soarezi
Soarezi
I'm having the same problem too.
deadbeat
osu! Alumni
9,218 posts
Joined June 2009
deadbeat
p/2107268

peppy wrote:

I removed it.
Full Tablet
2,544 posts
Joined September 2011
Full Tablet

peppy wrote:

I removed it.
Why?

Knowing the raw pp was the easiest way to find your pp in the country rankings. For example: What would be my ranking if I was Japanese?
Wishy
2,972 posts
Joined September 2010
Wishy
Isn't your pp that number you can see In-Game, if it is, why remove it? If it's not, what's the difference between raw pp and pp?
peppy
19,374 posts
Here since the beginning
peppy
The in-game pp will disappear soon too. pp rank is the important number.
deadbeat
osu! Alumni
9,218 posts
Joined June 2009
deadbeat

peppy wrote:

The in-game pp will disappear soon too. pp rank is the important number.
might i ask why?
TheVileOne
osu! Alumni
8,436 posts
Joined March 2010
TheVileOne
I'm not sure I agree with that peppy. I mean how the hell are we supposed to know how much pp we need to get to a certain rank? I don't think it's very motivating when we do not have a reference point on how much effort it actually takes to pass a milestone rank. It also will not help if new players do not have a reference to why their rank is jumping 1000s of spots.

Decreasing functionality is almost never a good thing. A good explanation is required for me to get behind your decision. If you want me on your side about this, explain why I should be on your side and then I will spread the word.
Full Tablet
2,544 posts
Joined September 2011
Full Tablet

TheVileOne wrote:

I'm not sure I agree with that peppy. I mean how the hell are we supposed to know how much pp we need to get to a certain rank? I don't think it's very motivating when we do not have a reference point on how much effort it actually takes to pass a milestone rank. It also will not help if new players do not have a reference to why their rank is jumping 1000s of spots.

Decreasing functionality is almost never a good thing. A good explanation is required for me to get behind your decision. If you want me on your side about this, explain why I should be on your side and then I will spread the word.
Well, using raw pp as a milestone does have a problem: there seems to be a pp inflation (over time more pp is needed to achieve certain rank, so the same amount of pp doesn't always have the same value).
For example, I spent about 3 months in the 12k-11k ranking range, while constantly increasing my pp over time.

Raw pp works better as a short-term milestone (for example if you want to increase rank from 10000 to 9700, or something like that).
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MillhioreF
Pro Tester
5,004 posts
Joined July 2011
MillhioreF
If you think you should be higher than another player, try beating some of their high performance ranks!
That's how you're supposed to keep ranking up at higher ranks, where you can get pp but not get enough to rank up.
Reviz
73 posts
Joined April 2012
Reviz

Full Tablet wrote:

Well, using raw pp as a milestone does have a problem: there seems to be a pp inflation (over time more pp is needed to achieve certain rank, so the same amount of pp doesn't always have the same value).
For example, I spent about 3 months in the 12k-11k ranking range, while constantly increasing my pp over time.

Raw pp works better as a short-term milestone (for example if you want to increase rank from 10000 to 9700, or something like that).
But pp won't disappear, so the inflation will still be there
TheVileOne
osu! Alumni
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Joined March 2010
TheVileOne
I think this topic is resolved.
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