2016-02-13 20:22 Haruto: heya rizen, do you have time for a quick opinion xd?
2016-02-13 20:22 Rizen: suure xd
2016-02-13 20:22 Rizen: other people's GD can wait
2016-02-13 20:22 Rizen: lol
2016-02-13 20:22 Haruto: alright lol
2016-02-13 20:22 Haruto: can you give some opinions here xd
2016-02-13 20:22 Haruto: ACTION is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/897941 Stonebank - Stronger (feat. EMEL)]
2016-02-13 20:24 Haruto: rip, its been 5times since osu getting crashed when entering the editor xd
2016-02-13 20:24 Haruto: so have you done dling it?
2016-02-13 20:25 Rizen: yeah
2016-02-13 20:25 Haruto: so what do you think of the map? tho its still wip lol
2016-02-13 20:26 Rizen: that double message
2016-02-13 20:26 Rizen: hmm
2016-02-13 20:26 Haruto: lol
2016-02-13 20:27 Rizen: looks like monstrata style
2016-02-13 20:27 Rizen: ?
2016-02-13 20:27 Haruto: oh really o.o?
2016-02-13 20:29 Rizen: 00:29:564 (1,2) -
2016-02-13 20:29 Rizen: the sliders and vocals really don't match
2016-02-13 20:29 Haruto: oh...
2016-02-13 20:30 Haruto: you mean the flow of it?
2016-02-13 20:30 Rizen: a 1/2 slider then circle would be better
2016-02-13 20:30 Haruto: okie trying it
2016-02-13 20:30 Rizen: i mean
2016-02-13 20:30 Rizen: 00:29:917 - sounds like it should be clickable
2016-02-13 20:30 Haruto: hmm..
2016-02-13 20:31 Haruto: yeah it is
2016-02-13 20:33 Rizen: 00:50:035 (2) - sounds like an overmap
2016-02-13 20:33 Haruto: ah it is lol
2016-02-13 20:33 Haruto: removed~
2016-02-13 20:34 Rizen: 01:09:093 (4,5) - the jump seems a bit harsh
2016-02-13 20:34 Rizen: especially considering 01:07:858 (1,2,3,4) - the spacings here are tiny
2016-02-13 20:34 Haruto: nerfed the jump
2016-02-13 20:36 Rizen: oh, about 00:02:917 (1,2,3) -
2016-02-13 20:36 Haruto: yes?
2016-02-13 20:36 Rizen: the sounds at the slider ends sounds like it should be made clickable
2016-02-13 20:36 Rizen: it would seem weird to not have them clickable
2016-02-13 20:36 Haruto: i see...
2016-02-13 20:36 Haruto: well i guess i have to make it into jumps then
2016-02-13 20:37 Rizen: 00:02:035 (2,3) - try ctrl+g'ing the rhythm
2016-02-13 20:37 Rizen: to make 00:02:211 - clickable
2016-02-13 20:37 Haruto: okie done
2016-02-13 20:39 Rizen: 00:48:976 (3,1) - don't really like the stack because this part of the music sounds like it should be all flowy
2016-02-13 20:39 Haruto: hmm i see.. fixed the stack then
2016-02-13 20:40 Rizen: also, shouldn't 00:48:799 (2,3,1) - be jumpy like 00:47:211 (4,5,6,7) - ?
2016-02-13 20:40 Haruto: i'll think about it later~
2016-02-13 20:41 Rizen: adding on to what I said before, it would make more sense if 00:50:211 (2,3,4,5,1) - isn't jumpy
2016-02-13 20:41 Haruto: oh
2016-02-13 20:41 Haruto: well okay then
2016-02-13 20:43 Rizen: 01:13:329 (8) - maybe it'll flow better when stacked on top of previous circle 6?
2016-02-13 20:43 Rizen: but this is purely subjective
2016-02-13 20:44 Haruto: 01:13:329 (8) - what do you mean?
2016-02-13 20:44 Haruto: tho i dont really understand this one ._.
2016-02-13 20:45 Rizen: like at x:300 y:364
2016-02-13 20:45 Rizen: purely subjective though
2016-02-13 20:45 Rizen: ah ok, we'll skip that
2016-02-13 20:45 Rizen: 01:17:564 (5,1,2,3) - sounds kinda overmapped
2016-02-13 20:45 Rizen: I would of make them 1/2 sliders because the sound is held twice
2016-02-13 20:45 Rizen: so sliders would emphasise this nicely
2016-02-13 20:45 Haruto: not that overmapped imo
2016-02-13 20:45 Rizen: this is one of the cases where the large white tick isn't a downbeat to be clicked
2016-02-13 20:46 Haruto: alright then, i make them into slider
2016-02-13 20:46 Rizen: ah
2016-02-13 20:46 Rizen: actually
2016-02-13 20:47 Rizen: if you disagree, you don't have to change
2016-02-13 20:47 Rizen: xd
2016-02-13 20:47 Rizen: 01:23:917 (3,4) - I would ctrl+g this rhythm though
2016-02-13 20:47 Haruto: i know xd
2016-02-13 20:47 Rizen: makes the white tick there clickable
2016-02-13 20:48 Haruto: umm i'll do it later
2016-02-13 20:48 Haruto: so, noted
2016-02-13 20:49 Rizen: 01:43:682 (3,4) - try circle, 1/2 slider, circle
2016-02-13 20:49 Rizen: it just sounds nicer with the white tick clickable xd
2016-02-13 20:50 Haruto: it didn't work properly imo ;_; so no xd
2016-02-13 20:51 Rizen: 01:49:858 (1) - maybe NC this because the stream spacing is increasing after this point
2016-02-13 20:51 Haruto: added
2016-02-13 20:52 Rizen: 01:52:681 (11,12) - instead, maybe a 1/2 slider will play better
2016-02-13 20:52 Rizen: it would make a nicer transition
2016-02-13 20:52 Haruto: yeah it is
2016-02-13 20:52 Haruto: changed then
2016-02-13 20:53 Haruto: anymore?
2016-02-13 20:54 Rizen: yess
2016-02-13 20:54 Rizen: i'll come back to the chrous
2016-02-13 20:54 Haruto: okiee
2016-02-13 20:55 Rizen: umm, u know in the music
2016-02-13 20:55 Rizen: uhh
2016-02-13 20:55 Haruto: yes?
2016-02-13 20:55 Rizen: the sound which starts at times such as
2016-02-13 20:55 Rizen: 02:16:152 -
2016-02-13 20:55 Rizen: 02:16:682 -
2016-02-13 20:55 Rizen: 02:17:211 -
2016-02-13 20:55 Haruto: sadly no ;_;
2016-02-13 20:56 Haruto: is it instrument or?
2016-02-13 20:56 Haruto: lol
2016-02-13 20:56 Rizen: i don't know the name of it
2016-02-13 20:56 Haruto: rip
2016-02-13 20:56 Rizen: the held sound
2016-02-13 20:56 Haruto: ooh that...
2016-02-13 20:56 Rizen: not the drums
2016-02-13 20:56 Rizen: or the guitar
2016-02-13 20:57 Rizen: yeah, those thingies
2016-02-13 20:57 Rizen: If i were mapping this song, I would make those clickable
2016-02-13 20:57 Rizen: you seem to of followed purely drums
2016-02-13 20:58 Haruto: yes i do. i dont really follows those held sound
2016-02-13 20:58 Rizen: like, 02:16:505 (2,3) - ctrl+g this rhythm and imo it would sound better
2016-02-13 20:58 Haruto: ehh it is lol
2016-02-13 20:59 Rizen: 02:22:152 (2,3) - here too
2016-02-13 21:00 Haruto: done
2016-02-13 21:00 Rizen: 02:29:564 (6) - don't think this circle should be as spaced as now
2016-02-13 21:00 Rizen: if anything, the jump should be at 02:29:564 (6,1) - and not 02:29:035 (5,6) -
2016-02-13 21:01 Haruto: uh what should i do then xd
2016-02-13 21:01 Rizen: I would also space out 02:31:858 (5) - a bit more too
2016-02-13 21:01 Rizen: which one?
2016-02-13 21:01 Haruto: for this 02:29:564 (6,1) -
2016-02-13 21:02 Haruto: also, what do you mean by space out? is it increasing its Spacing?
2016-02-13 21:02 Haruto: xd
2016-02-13 21:02 Rizen: maybe 02:29:564 (6) - to x:361 y:201?
2016-02-13 21:02 Rizen: yeah, increase spacing
2016-02-13 21:02 Haruto: 02:29:564 (6) - tried, and done
2016-02-13 21:03 Haruto: 02:31:858 (5) - i'll think to increase it
2016-02-13 21:04 Rizen: if you listen closely, 02:37:682 (6) - sounds like it should start on 02:37:593 (6) -
2016-02-13 21:05 Haruto: uh it still point out the same place when i click the link above xd
2016-02-13 21:05 Haruto: you mean here 02:37:593 - ?
2016-02-13 21:05 Rizen: yeah
2016-02-13 21:05 Rizen: the (6) part screws it up xd
2016-02-13 21:06 Haruto: lol
2016-02-13 21:07 Rizen: 02:42:976 (3,4) - circle, 1/2 slider, circle?
2016-02-13 21:07 Haruto: rip, osu! got crashed again xd
2016-02-13 21:07 Haruto: tried
2016-02-13 21:07 Rizen: :(
2016-02-13 21:07 Rizen: did u save?
2016-02-13 21:07 Haruto: of course i save it
2016-02-13 21:08 Rizen: coolio
2016-02-13 21:09 Haruto: anymore?
2016-02-13 21:09 Rizen: yesh
2016-02-13 21:09 Haruto: nice
2016-02-13 21:10 Rizen: 02:53:741 (1) - rhythm starting from that point, http://puu.sh/n6koK/d7c26caa1c.jpg
2016-02-13 21:10 Rizen: maybe
2016-02-13 21:10 Rizen: ok going back to the chorus
2016-02-13 21:11 Haruto: did similiar way
2016-02-13 21:11 Haruto: alright
2016-02-13 21:12 Rizen: 02:06:976 (6,1) - I wouldn't make this a stack. In fact, I would of made it a jump
2016-02-13 21:12 Rizen: 02:09:093 (2,3) - ctrl+g'ing each slider individually may improve flow
2016-02-13 21:13 Haruto: 02:06:976 (6,1) - idk if a jump would fit nicely there xd. will consider about it
2016-02-13 21:13 Rizen: by improve flow, I mean at 02:09:446 (3,4) -
2016-02-13 21:13 Haruto: ok
2016-02-13 21:14 Haruto: done
2016-02-13 21:15 Rizen: following the pattern of 02:12:799 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - , wouldn't it make more sense to make 02:13:682 (6,7) - a jump?
2016-02-13 21:15 Haruto: doesn't 02:06:976 (6,1) - is already a jump?
2016-02-13 21:15 Rizen: wow, osu crashed
2016-02-13 21:15 Rizen: again
2016-02-13 21:16 Haruto: lmao same
2016-02-13 21:16 Haruto: are you using CE?
2016-02-13 21:16 Rizen: yes
2016-02-13 21:16 Rizen: I'm going to submit a query
2016-02-13 21:16 Rizen: to support page
2016-02-13 21:16 Haruto: welp i already postes some there
2016-02-13 21:16 Rizen: did they have the error code?
2016-02-13 21:17 Haruto: no i guess
2016-02-13 21:17 Rizen: ok
2016-02-13 21:17 Haruto: but i did give them my error code
2016-02-13 21:17 Rizen: because I managed to save it
2016-02-13 21:17 Haruto: ooh
2016-02-13 21:17 Rizen: ok
2016-02-13 21:17 Rizen: continuing on
2016-02-13 21:17 Haruto: obviously, no one replied my post there xd
2016-02-13 21:17 Haruto: alright continue to the map
2016-02-13 21:18 Rizen: did u see what I said at 02:13:505 (5,6,7,8) - ?
2016-02-13 21:19 Haruto: yes
2016-02-13 21:19 Haruto: you said i should make this 02:13:682 (6,7) - more jumpy
2016-02-13 21:19 Rizen: sorry, what was the response?
2016-02-13 21:19 Haruto: i said doesn't it already a jump there?
2016-02-13 21:20 Haruto: i followed the drum so i dont make a bigger jump there
2016-02-13 21:21 Rizen: ok
2016-02-13 21:21 Rizen: not really
2016-02-13 21:21 Rizen: 02:13:682 (6) - is evenly spaced out either way
2016-02-13 21:21 Rizen: ok
2016-02-13 21:21 Rizen: 02:14:211 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - just seems very tacky
2016-02-13 21:21 Rizen: there's no real sound to justify it in stacks of 3
2016-02-13 21:21 Haruto: tacky?
2016-02-13 21:22 Rizen: uhh
2016-02-13 21:22 Rizen: not really needed
2016-02-13 21:22 Haruto: ah i see..
2016-02-13 21:23 Rizen: if anything, it should be in stacked of 4
2016-02-13 21:23 Rizen: or just a normal stream
2016-02-13 21:23 Rizen: mm
2016-02-13 21:23 Haruto: um could you use some simple english i dont really understand those kind of words
2016-02-13 21:23 Haruto: ok i think i've reduced the spacing on the streams
2016-02-13 21:23 Haruto: *jumpstreams
2016-02-13 21:23 Rizen: the 3 stack stream, it's uh...
2016-02-13 21:24 Rizen: yeah those things
2016-02-13 21:24 Rizen: impractical
2016-02-13 21:24 Haruto: hmm
2016-02-13 21:24 Rizen: i think that's the right word
2016-02-13 21:24 Haruto: yeah i get it now lol
2016-02-13 21:25 Rizen: ok
2016-02-13 21:25 Rizen: after that, that'll be everything
2016-02-13 21:25 Haruto: so no more?
2016-02-13 21:26 Rizen: that's all I can find
2016-02-13 21:26 Rizen: looks like a quick opinion turned out to be an hour long
2016-02-13 21:26 Rizen: lol
2016-02-13 21:26 Haruto: alright then, thanks for giving quick opinions on my map Rizen ^^ you should've posted the chatlog so i can give you a kudos
2016-02-13 21:26 Haruto: yes an hour long lol
2016-02-13 21:26 Haruto: also about the spacing, are they consistent enough?
2016-02-13 21:28 Haruto: since NRG told me that i dont pay attention to the spacing, i become giving more attention to spacing rather then rhythms ><
2016-02-13 21:33 Haruto: sorry i dced, have you said anything after my last message?
