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Groove Coverage - Poison (Nightcore Mix)

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Topic Starter
Firesucker
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Dienstag, 24. September 2013 at 22:40:42

Artist: Groove Coverage
Title: Poison (Nightcore Mix)
Tags: Alice Cooper Remix DJ Novus Melanie Munch
BPM: 168,75
Filesize: 7667kb
Play Time: 02:27
Difficulties Available:
  1. Easy (1,54 stars, 117 notes)
  2. Hard (4,71 stars, 257 notes)
  3. Insane (4,98 stars, 417 notes)
  4. Normal (3,75 stars, 193 notes)
  5. Poison (5 stars, 456 notes)
  6. Potion (5 stars, 576 notes)
Download: Groove Coverage - Poison (Nightcore Mix)
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This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Dienstag, 23. Juli 2013 at 18:15:49
Artist: Groove Coverage
Title: Poison (Nightcore Mix)
Tags: Alice Cooper Remix DJ Novus Melanie Munch
I simply love the song, but the given beatmaps for it are quite too easy.
So I decided to create harder beatmaps. It's fun to create beatmaps, so it's now a complete set. Insane, Poison and Potion are based on Geros Hard-Difficulty.
Pics are from Rozen Maiden (1st doll Suigintou) and Strawberry Panic (Shizuma Hanazono & Nagisa Aoi), credits go to the creator of each pic.
Hope you like them.
I'd be very please about mods to make these beatmaps real fun for everyone (especially since I'm not experienced in this). If you want me to map this in other gamemodes than Osu! pm me (but I need help. I dont even know how to map in other gamemodes nor do I know the rules for this).
Last update 24.09.2013 22:41 (mod+minimod)
Gero


:o

btw this is joke map sure?

[Normal]

Slider velocity 1.10 imo is better.

  1. 00:49:905 (1,2,1,2) - this is very confusing, changing these circles by sliders is better.
  2. 00:52:750 (1) - Add finish here
  3. 00:55:150 (3,4) - these notes have got no rhythm imo should be in ticks white "/
  4. 01:08:039 (1) - move this slider to 01:08:039



[Poison]

Btw AR 9 or 8 please
Amazing Diff :D LOL


[ToXiC]



Totally Unranked!
Topic Starter
Firesucker
Wow I'm really surprised you found the map that fast.
Hopefully you are not angry I used your beatmaps to make those.

A friend told me some minutes ago, that I can ask you to add those maps to your actual Poison. Since I didn't knew that this is possible, I'm asking you wether you want to add some of those or not. But I cant tell, if they will pass the trial or not... ToXiC is the only one I can't survive (the other ones are possible... they all can be done with full combo without breaking fingers

And I'd be very pleased about some comments from you and all other mappers :)
Topic Starter
Firesucker
Thanks for the mod @ Gero .
Fixed the things you mentioned.
Changed easy+normal SV to match their recommended stars.
Lust
Iunno if you are still looking for mods, but are you sure you are going to leave the author name as Gero + Firesucker? ;~; (if you are doing a collab, make it noticeable on the diffs you did a collab on, but the uploader should only have their own name as beatmap author - firesucker)

Anyways I'll be modding the easy and normal diffs because thats what you were refining earliers in the post.

Easy

SPOILER
  1. Well first off, your kiai times aren't snapped, be sure to snap them to notes.
  2. Check AImod for some general errors
  3. AR -2, CS -1
  4. All of the uninherited timing points conflict with the other diffs
  5. 1/4 is way to hard for an easy difficulty
  6. 00:27:149 (1,1) - confusing shapes for sliders on an easy diff
  7. 00:29:638 (1) - Remove NC
  8. 00:47:416 (5,6) - oh man what are with those hitsounds?
  9. 01:58:174 (1) - a no no for easy, change it up
  10. 02:01:018 (1) - slider is too difficult
  11. 02:09:730 (5) - spacing issue
  12. 02:12:397 (1,1) - craaaZZZy sliders again
  13. 02:20:930 (4) - ^
all in all pretty difficult for an easy, i know you said in the OP you wanted to make it harder, but this is way to hard for a simple easy

Normal

SPOILER
oh shizz this is pretty good, just got a few qualms (mostly spacing, check through it)
[*]timing is different than easy difficulty
[*]00:35:327 (1,2) - too far away from eachother
[*]02:05:996 (2,3) - too far from eachother

One other thing I feel as if the easy and normal difficulties should be normal and hard respectively, might want to map a beginner difficulty to even things out

good luck!
AnimeStyle
Warum mach ich das überhaupt XD naja da tim, dein mod

[General]

massenhaft ungenutze timingpoints , bitte lösche sie mal tim, und ja ich bin zu faul um sie dir extra alle aufzuschreiben, dein gehirn ist dafür groß genug
die bpm ist ziemlich hoch, 1/4 sind wohl nicht die allerbeste lösung, 1/2 wären besser gewesen, ausserdem hätten wir keine so großen orgien wie 00:23:593
sieht nicht gut aus, und verwirrt anfänger (die verwirrt echt alles , sry tim >_> )
[Easy]

00:04:393 - finish, lösche clap
00:07:237 - ^
00:10:082 - ^
00:10:793 - clap
00:11:504 - finish
00:12:215 - clap
(Schon mal was von Kosistenz gehört?)
00:12:215 - verwirrend für beginner, ich schlage dir vor besser nen circle zu benutzen, und dann
00:12:926 - spinner startet hier, und geht bis 00:15:060
00:15:060 - nutze nen timingpoint mit 5% soft,dann geht das mit den spinner gut
00:15:771 - da fehlt ein circle, schiebe den von 00:16:126 hierher , ziehe den slider mit nach vorne
(das ende eines sliders ist leiser, deswegen sollten slider eher nicht auf dem beginn eines neuen taktes enden)
00:17:549 (1,2) , bitte vorschieben auf 00:17:193
00:18:615 - hört sich besser an, passt auch besser zum song -> http://puu.sh/3WTBO.jpg
00:29:638 - das kann man auch mappen, wieder verwirrend für anfänger, und vorallem unsagbar nervig mit whistle
und jzt hab ich keinen bock mehr weiterzumachen, vlt. ein andermal, und damits nicht umsonst war, postets tobi mal XD

Hoffentlich bist du jzt zufrieden tim XD
Topic Starter
Firesucker
Thanks for your mods :) Changed a lot.
-deleted ToXiC
-changed the combos
-complete rework of easy
-deleted all unused timing points
-renamed the autor
-changed the things mentioned for normal
-looked and changed things autoai named (for easy, normal and hard)
Topic Starter
Firesucker
push i need mods :)
Ntasuto
:3

Stick o the white notes on easy and normal ... dont touch blue if its not streams, got many notes which are place on blue lines on timeline and they sound weird :/

Easy
SPOILER
General: -

00:54:528 (4) - Make it longer until 00:55:239 - not 00:55:061 / Stick to the white lines on the timeline !
01:01:461 (1) - Move it to 01:01:283 - and make it longer until 01:01:994 / dem white linez :P
01:37:196 (4) - Make it longer until 01:37:907 / whities, stick to them !
01:44:129 (1) - Move it to 01:43:951 - and make it longer until 01:44:662 / derp, white lines



Normal
SPOILER
General: -

00:11:948 (2) - Probably misplaced on timeline, move it to 00:11:860
00:18:793 (3) - FIX this asap ! no matter wut !
00:28:571 - add a note here
00:37:460 (3) - sounds ugly to me :S
00:40:305 (5) - Make it longer until 00:40:838 or 00:41:016 both sound good to me !
00:41:727 (1) - Make it longer until 00:42:438
00:43:505 (4) - Make it longer until 00:44:572 :P
00:45:994 (2) - Make it longer until 00:46:705 and delete 00:46:705 (3)
00:47:772 (2) - Make it longer until 00:48:483 -
00:54:172 (5,6,1) - Make them shorter until each of them is white to white line on timeline !
00:58:439 (1,2,3) - ^
01:01:283 (1,2,3) - ^
01:06:972 (1) - Make it longer until 01:07:684
01:12:661 (1) - Make it longer until 01:13:728
01:14:084 (2) - Make it shorter until 01:14:439
01:28:662 (2) - Make it longer until 01:29:373
01:35:418 (4,5,6,1,2,3) - This is a total mess , needs fix !
01:45:374 (1) - Make it shorter until 01:45:729
02:04:041 (2) - sounds ugly
02:05:285 (4) - Make it shorter until 02:05:819


Hard
SPOILER
General: HP drain +3/ OD +3

00:04:659 (4) - Move to 00:04:748 - then Make it shorter until 00:05:815
00:15:593 (8,9) - don't think they fit since beat stops here 00:15:415
00:18:438 (3) - Move to 00:18:260
00:18:615 - add a note here
01:00:572 (6) - Make it shorter until 01:01:106
01:01:461 (2) - Make it shorter until 01:01:994
01:02:706 (4) - Make it shorter until 01:03:950
01:09:817 (1) - Make it longer until 01:12:306
01:52:485 (1) - Make it longer until 01:54:974
02:12:397 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - Nice try creating the word but fix the timing, coz its just random :/




Insane
SPOILER
General: Hp drain +2/ OD+1

00:12:215 (3,4,5,6) - 3,4 spacing is not similar to 5,6 and its confusing !
01:28:306 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - aaaaaaaaaaayayayayay, what is that random spacing ?:S *FIX IT *
02:01:018 - Add a note
02:05:730 (7) - 02:05:907 (8) - DELETE - Add a note here instead 02:05:819 ;)
02:11:241 (8) - Delete
02:12:219 (11,12,1) - Fix the spacing ! too far from each other !
02:15:686 (2) - Delete
02:16:041 (4) - Move to 02:16:130

Potion
SPOILER
General: AR10.. are you sure :3 ? -1,2 / CS too small -1 /HP drain +2,3
Too much inconsistent spacing and random jumps for no reason !
Also take it a bit easy on the streams :/

00:09:549 (7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16) - DERP, they make no sense :D
01:15:328 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19) - Holy BanchoBot o.O wut is that ? make it more readable, like a wave or smth !
01:21:817 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - UNREADABLE !

01:58:529 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29,30,31,32,33) - just whaaaaaaaaaaat ?

02:05:907 (6) - Delete


Poison its the same as insane(i think) so i didnt mod it .

got me some time but i hope it gets rank soon :D
hope i helped, derping out ;)
Topic Starter
Firesucker
thanks a lot c: i will work to your response c:


Easy - completely took your advice, rechecked every spacing

Normal - I don't know why so many sliders were off ... I didn't placed them that way o.o and the ds was somehow off for a lot of points o.o
• 00:18:793 - replaced with a different slider
• 00:37:460 - merged 2 sliders to 1 big, sounds better 4 me
• 01:35:418 - resnapped sliders and replaced some with dots (sounds better)
• 02:04:041 - resized sliders
everything not mentioned completely to your advice

Hard - HPD +3 (to 6) , OD+3 (to 6)
• 00:15:593 - there were supposed to meet the "ordinary" beat, not the drum^^ but you are right. 8 was too much, so i deleted 8,9 and set up a new dot
• Fixed the words c: but it looks a bit strange ^^ (please ignore the spacing problem, except you have a better idea, how to make it fit ._. i dont know how)
everything not mentioned completely to your advice

Insane - HPD+2 (to 6), OD+1 (to 7)
• 00:12:215 5,6 is already part of the refrain. I gave those parts a new color, to make it obvious (thanks, I missed that)
• fixed another problem of that kind ( i know the spacing of the refrain is strange first. But I thought of it as a preparation for the next difficulty, since there are more hits to make with nearly the same kind of appearance).
everything not mentioned completely to your advice

Poison - yeah it's nearly the same as Insane, except there are more dots, it's faster. I think it's a good diff-up for Insane and preparation for Potion^^
HPD +2 (to 6), OD+1 (to 8)
• tried to overtake as many advices as possible. just 2:05:00 onward...it's very different. please overlook this again

Potion AR -1 (to 9...why not 10 ... I really liked that :D) CS -1 (to 4) HP +2 (to 6)
• yes^^ I know... 1/12 streams are ultra difficult to manage :3 but there are so many hero's that stream 1/8 in DT... i really wonder, why not even use 1/16 (since DT +1/8 streams are 1/16...) i will fix the sound of them o.o hope they now sound better^^
• 01:58:907 - 1/8 stream ... as a giant circle XD
-> i tried to make the movement of the cursor smoother at all. just some hard-changes in movementspeed are now left. it should be a LOT better now c:
Topic Starter
Firesucker
update -> minimod (pmmed) -> changed to your advice (and you do very well :) )
10crystalmask01
Ello o3o random mod!

[General]
Circle overlay is too dark :S Either make a new overlay, or try to find brighter Backgrounds for this map.
[Easy]
  1. Hmm I suggest you try increasing the DS (distance snap) more. A little space between the objects would be nice.
00:11:504 (1) - Try placing on the same spot as 00:08:660 (1) - for a full-rounded flow.
00:17:549 (4) - Tail sounds better ending at 00:17:904, since that's where you hear the vocals say touch. Right now, the tail sounds pretty late.
01:04:128 (1) - Add finish to the head. If your unsure how to, simply double-click the head, and add finish.
01:09:817 (3) - ^
01:14:795 (4) - Add finish to the tail.
01:46:796 (1) - Add finish to the head.
01:52:484 (3) - ^
01:58:174 (1) - ^
02:05:286 (3,2) - Not a good overlap, can barely see the second slider :o
02:08:841 (3,4,1) - Bad DS, spread em apart.
02:12:397 (1) - Add finish to the head.

Increase the distance between your objects, and I believe it should look better :P Hitsounds are a bit dull though :( Try to create a more rhythmic hitsound then just adding a clap here, and a whistle there.

[Normal]
  1. AR should be 5.
  2. OD 3
  3. HP Drain rate +3
00:07:593 (4) - Remove clap ,should be on the head of 00:07:948 (5) -
00:31:416 (3) - Tail is unsnapped.
00:36:749 (2) - Add finish to the tail.
00:38:883 (1) - Change hitsound to clap.
01:04:128 (1) - Remove the finish on the tail.
01:14:795 (3,1) - Don't like how the hit circle is touching the slider, re-positon please?
01:35:418 (4) - Add finish to the head.
01:41:818 (4,1,2) - Move objects a bit lower, so that 01:43:240 (2) - isn't touching the head of 01:42:529 (1) - . Something like this woudl do:

02:01:018 (1) - Add finish
02:12:397 (1) - Add finish to the head.

Looks okay :/ Hitsounds are better, but this diff still needs some polishing!

[Hard]
AR +1
00:16:126 - 00:18:260 Try this rhythm:
Sorry if its a bit hard to see :o
(Another reason why you should change the hit circle overlay).
00:27:149 - 00:30:349 Try this rhythm:

00:32:838 - 00:36:038 ^
00:42:083 - 00:50:083 Is spammed with nothing but odd, weird looking sliders. Consider re-mapping this part.
01:04:128 - 01:06:617 Another rhythm suggestion.

01:09:817 - 01:12:306 ^

...I'm sorry, but I'm going to have to stop here. Consider re-mapping this diff please, mainly the flow and rhythm needs work.

Hope this helps! ^^
Topic Starter
Firesucker
Circle Overlay fixed (inserted a white, half transparent circle)

[Easy] DS x1.0 -> x1.2 ;
till 02:05:286 everything changed
02:05:286 - 02:08:841 fixed by new DS -> now spread apart
rest changed as you suggest c:
EXCEPT MISSING/BORING HITSOUNDS (I personally disable them or make them as quiet as I can, but I read, I have to use them :/ )


[Normal] HPD +3 (to 4); AP to 5; AR now 5 (isn't that a bit fast for normal? i like faster maps, but still... it's normal D: )
Changed everything to your advice (how do you even hear the missing hitsounds? I'm completely bashed by that o.o )

[Hard] remapped, AR +1 (to 7)

Thanks a lot for this extremely intensive Mod *o* I will write you a message as soon as I'm done remapping Hard.
Ofc I'm still thanksful for every mod and advice postet here c:
Topic Starter
Firesucker
*push* need mod
Topic Starter
Firesucker
mods please D:
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