sing216 wrote:

\:3/

Absolute Oni

00:15:682 (15,16) - change to kd and 00:15:791 (16) - fit the beat sound and sound effect.
(same change with 01:53:943 (16,17) - ) 00:15:791 (16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23) - dram follow

01:46:225 (17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24) - Follow the vocal here?(example: dkkdkkdk/dkkdddkk) Because the vocal is still greater than the beat.
(same change with 03:10:568 (17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24) - )　fit to dram

01:49:812 (11) - change to k and 01:49:921 (12) - delete ok
01:56:878 (12) - delete ^

03:55:351 (13,14,15,16,17,18) - change to dddddk or dddkkk? It would be better to use other pattern here. 02:43:177 (13,14,15,16,17,18) - ddkdkk↑ 03:55:351 (13,14,15,16,17,18) - ddkddk↓
03:56:384 (19) - change to k can emphasize the coming D note. ok
04:44:916 (22) - change d or 04:44:482 (18,19,20,21,22) - change to dkkdk the sounds better. i change ddkdk and 04:51:438 (18,19,20,21,22) - changed dkkdk

Good luck!! GOGO

namaniku wrote:

modします。

mod

[*]00:51:769 - add k
00:53:508 - add k
00:55:247 - add d
00:56:987 - add d
･･･この４つはボーカルに合わせたつもりですが、蛇足の可能性もあるので違和感があれば無視で
[*]02:16:112 - add k
02:19:590 - add d
･･･2:15~の箇所も同様

[*]01:11:987 (21) - delete こちらの方が聞こえが自然な気がしたので
[*]02:01:008 (25,26,27,28) - change to ddkd

サビについては提案する点がありませんでした 申し訳ない...

Ranked頑張ってください。

namaniku wrote:

namaniku wrote:

modします。

mod

[*]00:51:769 - add k
00:53:508 - add k
00:55:247 - add d
00:56:987 - add d
･･･この４つはボーカルに合わせたつもりですが、蛇足の可能性もあるので違和感があれば無視で スルーします
[*]02:16:112 - add k
02:19:590 - add d
･･･2:15~の箇所も同様　^

[*]01:11:987 (21) - delete こちらの方が聞こえが自然な気がしたので　どうやら無い音を取ってたらしい、fixed
[*]02:01:008 (25,26,27,28) - change to ddkd ok

サビについては提案する点がありませんでした 申し訳ない...

Ranked頑張ってください。

Smallwu wrote:

Hello, mod from pm in forum
[General]
Source : ハナヒメ＊アブソリュート！ok
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[Absolute Oni]
01:22:747 (17,18,19,20,21) - dkddk to follow pitch, and keep consistency like 01:29:704
01:21:878 (11,14,17) - k pattern → 01:28:834 (12,15,18) - d pattern
01:36:660 (18,19,20,21,22) - ^ ^ 01:43:617
^
01:44:269 (24) - k Because the sound is same like (23)
01:44:052 (23,24,1) - i dont like k→k→k(1/2)pattern
01:45:791 (13) - k I think this is a mistake, the other streams like this use k at here
hmmm....ok
02:54:047 (19,20,21,22,23) - dkddk Reason same as 01:22:747
same as
03:01:003 - ^ ^
^
03:59:264 (19,20,21,22,23) - dkddk Reason same as 01:22:747
^
04:13:177 (20,21,22,23,24) - ^ ^
^
=====
Only these, good!
GL with Rank >3</

chaica wrote:

いｒｃ

2017-02-20 19:58 yassu-: こんばんは
2017-02-20 19:58 chaica: kon
2017-02-20 19:58 yassu-: そろそろmodder集まってきたのでM4Mの譜面BNに見せたいんですが……
2017-02-20 20:00 chaica: aa
2017-02-20 20:00 yassu-: 一応忙しかったらIRCでもokですよ？
2017-02-20 20:01 chaica: yarimasu?
2017-02-20 20:01 chaica: irc
2017-02-20 20:01 yassu-: やりましょう
2017-02-20 20:05 chaica: 00:18:617 - ddkkdは？
2017-02-20 20:06 yassu-: 考え中
2017-02-20 20:08 yassu-: 長考の末変えた
2017-02-20 20:11 chaica: 00:26:334 (14) - ｋはどう？dk kdのほうが
2017-02-20 20:11 chaica: きれいにみえない？
2017-02-20 20:11 yassu-: 俺もそう思った
2017-02-20 20:11 chaica: 00:28:400 (7) - ここもkはどう？
2017-02-20 20:13 yassu-: 音取りのパターンが崩れそうだからkeepかなぁ
2017-02-20 20:13 chaica: おｋ
2017-02-20 20:14 chaica: kd k dならここ00:28:291 (6) - kじゃない？
2017-02-20 20:14 chaica: 00:28:291 (6,7,8,9) - ここだけdd k dなんだけど
2017-02-20 20:15 yassu-: 00:35:247 (7,8,1,2) - 一応パターンだからここもだけど
2017-02-20 20:16 chaica: ああ　まだそこまで見てなかったすまん
2017-02-20 20:17 chaica: こういうときは00:35:247 (7,8,1,2) - もkdの方がいいっていつも言うんだけど、どうですか
2017-02-20 20:20 yassu-: 取り合えずddは見た目がちょっと悪いっていうのはわかったから後で考えて修正しておきます
2017-02-20 20:20 chaica: はい
2017-02-20 20:20 chaica: 00:47:639 (19) - を00:47:204 - ？00:43:617 (15,16,17,18,19,20,1) - と同じ感じにしたい
2017-02-20 20:23 yassu-: 00:40:682 - ,00:44:269 - ここと比べて vocalの変化を取りたいところ
2017-02-20 20:24 yassu-: 変化というかボーカルの有無？
2017-02-20 20:25 chaica: なるほど
2017-02-20 20:27 chaica: 00:54:704 (12) - kはどうですか　ほかと合わせて
2017-02-20 20:28 yassu-: 00:56:443 - 00:52:965 - と00:54:704 - でvocalの有無を取ってます
2017-02-20 20:29 chaica: なるほど
2017-02-20 20:36 chaica: 言ってもいいのかあれなんですけど、01:19:269 (19) - より前のとこ1/6の音内容に感じるんですけど
2017-02-20 20:36 chaica: 無いよう
2017-02-20 20:38 yassu-: 実際は1/6じゃなくて1/8でなってるんですけどね。。。
2017-02-20 20:40 yassu-: 一応音はあります
2017-02-20 20:40 chaica: 01:18:834 (13) - から01:19:269 (19) - まで01:17:530 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - と一緒だと思うんだけど、違うか
2017-02-20 20:44 yassu-: 03:55:351 (13,14,15,16,17,18) - ここ見たときddkdkkが音の上がり方からパターンの都合良いかなって思ったので
2017-02-20 20:45 chaica: 　ここに1/6おくよりhttp://puu.sh/ubxOu/4c8ed72d7a.jpgみたいな感じのほうが違和感ないと思う
2017-02-20 20:50 yassu-: うーん、最近は1/8を1/6で取るranked譜面増えてるし最近のplayerからしたら1/6のほうが…って感じがするんですよね…。
2017-02-20 20:52 chaica: さすがに1/8そのまま取るのはまずいと思うから、1/6でいいと思うけど、01:18:834 (13) - から01:19:269 (19) - までは1/4でいいと思うんだよね
2017-02-20 20:52 chaica: 1/6のおとないし
2017-02-20 20:54 yassu-: 許容範囲だとは思いますが。とりあえず考えておきます('ω')
2017-02-20 20:55 chaica: 01:26:225 (10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,1) - も音的に1/4じゃないかと思うけど、触れない方がいい？
2017-02-20 20:57 yassu-: こういう1/6音取りのranked譜面はすでにあるのでたぶん許容範囲内です
2017-02-20 20:58 chaica: なるほど
2017-02-20 20:58 yassu-: ACTION is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/220354 Ranko - Ashita mo Haremasu You ni]
2017-02-20 20:58 yassu-: 一応↑例です
2017-02-20 20:59 chaica: 古いな　おｋです
2017-02-20 21:00 chaica: 01:47:095 (25) - 01:47:530 (31) - さびまえとおなじ
2017-02-20 21:01 chaica: 一応いいます
2017-02-20 21:01 chaica: 01:56:769 (11) - ｋ？
2017-02-20 21:02 chaica: 最初と同じりゆう
2017-02-20 21:02 yassu-: サビ前とはちょっと違う気がするのでkeep
2017-02-20 21:03 yassu-: fixed
2017-02-20 21:04 chaica: 一応２番のサビ前も１番と同じで
2017-02-20 21:05 yassu-: はい、考えておきます
2017-02-20 21:07 chaica: 03:25:732 - のところの緑線、これでも大丈夫かな
2017-02-20 21:08 yassu-: そこは大丈夫です
2017-02-20 21:09 chaica: あい
2017-02-20 21:09 chaica: コレなんでこういう風に置いてるん？ノーツの上じゃダメ？
2017-02-20 21:11 yassu-: 完全にノーツの上にすると前後の判定で叩いた時意図しないvolumeが出ちゃう時があるので、
2017-02-20 21:11 yassu-: volume調整するときはノーツから外す必要があります
2017-02-20 21:13 chaica: へえ　なるほど
2017-02-20 21:14 yassu-: まあ俺もそれ知らなくてranked作っちゃったけど…ｗ
2017-02-20 21:15 chaica: 指摘されたこと無いけどな　BNも知らんのかな
2017-02-20 21:16 chaica: 04:34:916 (1) - はkのほうがいいんじゃないか
2017-02-20 21:18 yassu-: 04:35:134 (2,3) - この音followしたいのでdが最適だと思う
2017-02-20 21:18 chaica: ok
2017-02-20 21:18 chaica: 最後のスピンたぶん５分にするために置いた？ギリ５分なくてもrankedは出来ると思うよ
2017-02-20 21:19 yassu-: まじですか？
2017-02-20 21:19 chaica: 4:55とかでもappになってるstd譜面とかあるよ　去年とかでも
2017-02-20 21:20 chaica: 間違いだったらアレだからBNに聞いて大丈夫ならスピンはいらないと思う
2017-02-20 21:20 chaica: 音がないのにスピンは流石になあって感じ
2017-02-20 21:20 yassu-: ちょっとその譜面確認したい
2017-02-20 21:21 chaica: ちょっとまってて　探す
2017-02-20 21:22 yassu-: まあもしだめならだめだったでspiner加えるだけだけど
2017-02-20 21:23 chaica: まあそうですね　ちょっと曲名思い出せんからそういうことで
2017-02-20 21:24 chaica: 最近別のゲームしすぎでmod覚えててもやってなかった　ごめん！
2017-02-20 21:25 yass

_Rise wrote:

NM via in-game chat
久しぶりのmodなので変な指摘が多いかもしれません。

mod

[Absolute Oni]

1. HR用の譜面(DT/NC殺す譜面)にしたいなら、1/8を使用してもいいと思います。今まで1/8を使用してこなかった為に、難所でもないそこだけ使うのもちょっとって感じがします…
   00:09:269 (27,28,29,30) - 例えばここは1/6の配置になっていますが、音源のドラム音は1/8の間隔で鳴っています(速度を落として聴くとわかるはず)。
   01:19:269 (19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29,30) - ここも、音源のシンセサイザー(?)の音は1/8で鳴っているので、ddkddkddkddkdkkk(1/8)みたいな配置にしても面白いかもしれません(Unrankableならすみません)。01:20:139 - ここの隣接bigは外したくないので1/6隣接bigはまだranked譜面で前例がありますが、1/8はさすがにunrankableになるかなぁ……
   
2. 00:06:226 (10) - ここはdでもいいかなと思いました。00:06:226 - シンバル音？が鳴っているため
3. 00:30:356 (17) - Change to d. この音符の前のdk dkも音源のバスドラムにあっているのでここもそれに合わせるのはどうでしょうか。ここはddの配色を避けてるためにちょっと見た目が悪くなるかなぁ
4. 01:26:733 (17,20) - Change to k? 音が上がっているので。統一性がちょっと…
5. 01:40:646 (23,26) - ^ ^
6. 02:01:008 (25) - Change to k? 音合わせですが叩きにくくなるかも。見た目も悪いので
7. 02:10:568 (8,9) - Ctrl + G 音合わせ。うーん、音が下がっているように聞こえない
8. 02:51:076 (22,25) - Change to k. 01:26:733 (17,20) と同じ理由。同じく
9. 03:04:989 (23,26) - ^ ^
10. 03:48:395 (9) - Change to d? こっちをdkddk配置にして 03:49:916 (18,19,20,21,22) - をdkkdk、 03:51:655 (7,8,9,10,11) - をdkddkにしたほうが譜面の展開は自然かも？nice
11. 04:03:250 (17,20) - Change to k. Same as before. 同じく
12. 04:17:163 (18,21) - ^ ^

以上です。Approve頑張ってください。

1. 01:21:008 (5,6) - Ctrl+G。単にボーカルの音程なのですが、「Ｗish♪」がそれなりに高いので、dkddkよりも優先度がたかい様な気がします。後ろの音に合わせていると思いきや、バックでもボーカルと合わせたためか高音が鳴っているので、変えることをお勧めします。
   
2. 01:30:791 (2) - k。これも上と同じ理由で、これに同意した場合、01:30:899 (3) - ここを消去することをお勧めします。理由として第一サビなのでできるだけノーツ密度をラスサビで魅せたいため、前半は控えたいという点/置くために十分な音が聞こえない点の2点があげられます。
   
3. 01:31:117 (4) - d?上を考慮した場合の色ですね。特に高くないのですが、これは個人的に良いかな、程度の提案です。
   
4. 01:50:682 (16) - delete。理由は、01:50:573 (15) - ここのシンセがとても大きく聞こえる部分なのでどうしても独立した音で表現してあげるのがいいと考えたからです。01:50:573 (15) - からつなげてしまうとせっかくの強い音も流されてしまうイメージなので、ここはムリにつなげず切ったほうがいいと判断しました。
   
5. 01:53:073 (10) - delete。おそらく01:48:834 (4) - こことのリフレインパートで区別するために詰めたノーツだと思うんですが、サビでもないので、べつに同密度でも構わないと思います。無理につなげるより、若干の配色変更のみのほうがプレイングとしては快適になると思います
   
6. 03:24:699 (10,11) - dd。明らかにタムが低く聞こえるのですが、どうでしょう
   
7. 03:25:568 (18) - 上と同じ理由でここはスネアが強く、音取自体もドラム合わせのようですので、kを強くお勧めします。
   
8. 03:32:308 (18) - ここからの16分と03:32:742 (22) - かあらの24分の違いの意味が分かりませんでした。ほぼ同じスネアの音量であるため、明確な理由がない場合はどちらかに統一したほうがいいと思います。僕ならこう置くのもありかなと思います
   https://puu.sh/ukJrz.jpg
   
   
9. 03:42:525 (12) - 03:46:003 (12) - にあるのと03:40:786 - にノーツがない理由がわかりませんでした 統一をお勧めします。特に変化を求めるようなパートでもないので、、、
   
10. 04:07:308 (2) - k。ハイハット?ライド？の音取優先のほうが聞こえがいいかと
    
11. 04:37:308 (17,18) - Ctrl+G。バックのシンセの音程取りのほうがいいと思います、一番大きく聞こえているパートです
    
12. 上に伴って提案するならば、04:37:525 (18) - と04:37:851 (20) - は同じ音程なので、04:37:742 (19,20,21) - はdkdがおすすめです
    
13. 04:46:221 (6) - ここからの配色が気になったため音程に合わせて自分なりに色変えてみたのですが、どうでしょう
    https://puu.sh/ukKi3.jpg

1. 02:23:612 - ~~　02:44:481 - 　まで1回目と提案箇所は全く同じ、sameです。

• time stamps

  1. 02:23:612 (5,6,7,8,9,10) -
  2. 02:25:568 -
  3. 02:26:003 (18,1) - k-D?
  4. 02:27:307 (6,7,8,9) -
  5. 02:29:554 (26,27,1) -
  6. 02:31:655 -
  7. 02:40:351 (2,3,1,2) -
  8. 02:40:133 - , 02:41:003 - K じゃないのは仕様？
  9. 02:43:177 (13,14,15,16,17,18) -
  10. 02:44:409 (12,13) -

1. 2番目のkiaiも基本的には同じです。ほぼ被ってるのでtimestampだけ

• timestamps

  1. 02:51:293 (25,26,1) -
  2. 02:52:308 (6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - ddkdkkk?
  3. 02:57:960 (24,25,26,27,28,1) -
  4. 03:06:221 - 周辺→D--dk-k-dkddkkd-kddkkdk ? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7453419
  5. 02:49:482 (9,10) - k-D?
  6. 03:26:112 (23,1) - remove-D?

JUDYDANNY wrote:

Hello, M4M　hi==
And, sorry 3times post..Post bag... orz

Introduction

• 
  1/6とfinisherとの兼ね合いが疑問です

1. 偶数打の一貫性が不足してます
   
2. 大音符の一貫性が1番と2番で変わってます、変化をつけるならもっと流れに変化を..
   
   後半に行くにつれてのkiaiのkの配置が蛇足感があります(dkkdk系の部分）、もう少し流れに沿わせた方がよいかと..
   
3. やはり難易度作りのバランスが気になります　局所難を責めているわけではないですが、どう見ても明らかに局所難という部分と他との差がありすぎて.. 1/6も長いですし　もう少し簡略化を図った方がいいと思います

Symbol meaning

　

• 
  | >> Little question and small suggestion.
  >> idea lol

1. >> Normal suggestion.
   Big text >> Strong suggestion.
   >> Questionable imo.
   >>> Needs to improve some. (Rhythm is not good , plays or sounds weird)
   No comment >>simple (you can notice easily: just hits on drums or simple beats) , or already explained on the other place.

　or JUST MY OPINION.

[Timing]

• 
  03:46:003 (12) - もっとガッツリ減速掛けましょう...　イントロよりもﾊﾞｯｸの音の種類は少ないので曲調的にcalmerでいいはずです　fixed

1. 01:47:041 - 95%のままでもよいと思います 2ndも同様。^

[Inner Oni]

1. 00:22:965 (27,28,29) - dkdにchange or ddk, kddkkkdのパターン云々よりもその前のdkkdkの1/4に疑問が残ります。落ち着いているのでピッチ・バス音ともにフォローするためにｄ音もう少し多めに。fixed
   
2. 00:28:291 (6,7) - kd? for consistency with 00:24:813 (6,7) - .^
3. 00:51:298 (26,27,1) - (26,27) remove ⅙, (1) change finisher. 大音符のバランスが非常に気になる..1/6を無理に繋げなくてもカバーは出来ると思いますし01:04:921 (22,23,24,25,26,27,1) - とパターンを組みたいです。
4. 02:15:568 (27,28,29,1) - same.02:15:351 (24,25,26,27,28,29,1) - ^
5. 00:54:378 - change to d, and 00:54:921 - change K ? fixed
   
   
   00:57:856 (23,24) - dk? なんかものすごくやりにくいと思ったら。。そもそも1/4の配色がおかしい気がする.. 1/4だけのリズムを考えたらdk-dkの方が十分に合うと思うんですが...これまでの流れを考えたら.. ここはパターンも考えていろいろ考えます。
   
   00:59:269 (5,6,7,8,9,10) - change to, d-ddk-d-K or dk-dk-d-K? 周辺のパターンは任せますが..ボーカルの高さとここ周辺のmappingを見たらfinisherの　Kが最優先事項だと思われます。
   また偶数に関しては　ここだけ意図的に配置したのかわかりませんが,,,少し疑問です。これは似た部分の繰り返しがkiai手前まで同じパターン続いてるので気になった部分だけ提案続きます
   (dk-dkに関しては01:07:965 (16,17,18,19) - あたりを参照に) fixed
   
   
   1. 01:01:226 - move to ¼ left..? 偶数2-2の配置を前者でした場合。
   2. 01:10:791 - ^
   3. 01:16:008 (2,3,4,5) - そして同じように(2)の位置のブレイクはほしい... ここのパターンをKから始めてK-dk-dk　→ K--dk-d or K--kk-d ? fixed
   4. K--kkを取った場合01:16:878 - も意図的にchange kすると個性もあり、変化をどこでっとりたいかしっかりインパクトにもなると思います 第二kiaiでの変化に使います(*'ω'*)
   5. 01:27:312 (21,22) - change to (remove,d).
   6. 01:41:225 (2,3) - same, fixed 01:41:986 (6,7,8,9,10) - change to dkdkkd-(kd-kkdk or kk-dkkd)? , ここはよくわからないので後で聞こうかな
6. 01:02:965 (6,7,8,9) - change ddk-d or kdk-d? これまで01:03:400 (9,10) - こういった配色を意図的に避けてるようにも見えますし..　一貫性で？fixed
7. 01:05:211 (26,27,1) - kk remove, d finisher? パート間での大音符との折り合いで。考えます
   
   01:19:994 (29,30) - remove　再三言ってますが、大音符との兼ね合いです　一応こういう大音符配置のranked譜面はありますしbpmも同様に低いので許容されると思う。。。けど。。。　https://osu.ppy.sh/b/307654&m=1
8. 01:26:950 (20,21,1) - same. finisherも必要だと思います　01:20:139 - と比べて強調する必要はないと思います。
9. 01:40:863 (26,27,1) - same. ^
10. 01:47:820 (35,36,1) - same. ^
11. 01:33:617 (24,25,26,27,28,1) - change to (⅙)dddk-””-D? うーんdddkにすると叩きにくいのと、上と同様に強調する必要もないかなと思います。
    
12. 01:19:124 - d? と言いたいですが..01:19:124 - 01:19:197 - は削ってもいい気がします(余った4打の1/6はdddkで？)　聞いてみてもそこまで重要度が高いようにも聞こえない　
    削ってプレイしてもメリハリという意味ではつきそうです。自分の考えでは、03:55:351 (13,14,15,16,17,18) - は音が下がっているのと比べて01:18:834 (13,14,15,16,17,18) - では音が上がっているので、変化をつけるためにddkdkkが最適だと思います。それにSV変化によって分けているので、メリハリも多分問題ないかと。
    
    
13. 01:20:791 (4,5) - either change k? ボーカルのメリハリがつきすぎてるので..　うーむ。。パターンの問題もあるので、考えます。
14. 01:27:747 (23,24) - ^ 5連打も少し見直した方がいいと思います. k-ddkdk ?　^
    
15. 02:03:612 (2,3) - kd?　ボーカル配置をしてないので素直にバックのピッチに合わせた方が自然だと思います。03:15:786 - のように。　fixed
16. 02:10:568 (8,9) - same. ^
    
17. 02:17:959 - remove, 1/4までは必要ないと思います, 4拍子にこれ以上置いたらドラムっぽくなってしまう.. ^
18. 02:21:438 - same. ^
19. 02:18:177 (9,10,11) - k-d-d? 個人的に変えてみました
20. 02:19:264 - K?　fixed

1. 02:23:612 - ~~　02:44:481 - 　まで1回目と提案箇所は全く同じ、sameです。同様に修正[/list:1337]
   
   • time stamps

     1. 02:23:612 (5,6,7,8,9,10) -
     2. 02:25:568 -
     3. 02:26:003 (18,1) - k-D?
     4. 02:27:307 (6,7,8,9) -
     5. 02:29:554 (26,27,1) -
     6. 02:31:655 -
     7. 02:40:351 (2,3,1,2) -
     8. 02:40:133 - , 02:41:003 - K じゃないのは仕様？変えた
     9. 02:43:177 (13,14,15,16,17,18) -
     10. 02:44:409 (12,13) -

1. 2番目のkiaiも基本的には同じです。ほぼ被ってるのでtimestampだけ

• timestamps

  1. 02:51:293 (25,26,1) -
  2. 02:52:308 (6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - ddkdkkk?
  3. 02:57:960 (24,25,26,27,28,1) -
  4. 03:06:221 - 周辺→D--dk-k-dkddkkd-kddkkdk ? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7453419　03:07:090 (12,16,19) - ここを同じ色にしないと違和感が出ると思います。
  5. 02:49:482 (9,10) - k-D?
  6. 03:26:112 (23,1) - remove-D?

• 
  03:34:482 (9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19) - no ⅓ mapping? 自分もちょっと違和感があったけど1/3は無いかなと思ったので個人的に変えてみました。
  3rdのkiaiもカットで

1. 04:24:482 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - not ¼ dkdkdkdk?それか2拍ごとに1/4→1/6→1/4→1/6のパターンでもいっそいい気はします.. そこまで音が強くない..　うーんこれまで指摘されなかったので、違和感は無い気がしますが…一応密度を減らしてみました。
2. 04:45:351 - remove finish　ここは強調が必要な気がします
3. 04:34:699 - , 04:41:656 - ,04:48:612 - もう少し簡易化を図っては？ピークが終わったのに対し、ここも難易度が高いままなのは気になる..特に１・３回目。ピークが終わったとはいえ一応kiaiなのでkeepかな…

APP目指すなら他のBNにもしっかり意見を取った方がいいと思います。
Good Luck.

Nofool wrote:

really cool map, mostly personnal pref suggestions/maybe SV changes could be made better

[Absolute Oni]
* - 00:10:574 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13) - try dk kddk dk kd? fits better melody/emphasize - 00:11:552 - as k. fixed
* - 00:17:530 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13) - ^.^
* - 00:22:639 (24,25) - swap colors? i think kdkdk plays well with the melody. fit to dram
* - 00:34:704 - sad to miss vocal because - 00:33:834 (17,18,1) - follows vocal. try moving - 00:35:030 (6) - to - 00:34:595 - as d, and also add k at - 00:35:900 - ? => fits more vocal and other sections like - 00:25:682 (10,11,12,13,14,15,16) -.fixed
* - 01:17:530 - to - 01:20:139 - i think the stream would look better with progressive speed up. same for all similar streams before kiais.I could not understand the meaning
* - 01:30:791 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - change to dk k D ? as you did at - 01:23:943 (2,3,4,5) -, i think it plays better. pattern change
* (important) - 01:48:399 (3) - x1.20SV green line is not working here because snapped one ms too late. change its offset to 108399.fixed
* - 02:14:590 (17) - i think you can keep it as d, ddkkddkkddkk monotony isnt bad here.I think it's too simple.
* - 02:55:134 (2,3,4,5,6) - as suggested in first kiai, remove 1st and 4th note ? ddkdk => dk k, emphasize previous finisher as you did at - 02:47:960 (1,2,3,4) -.01:30:791 (2,3,4,5,6) - same as
* - 03:12:416 - to - 03:19:264 - i think you can make a cool speed up here. => change - 03:12:416 - line to x0,90SV, and then make a progressive speed up from - 03:17:525 (3) - to - 03:19:264 (1) - (x0,94 to x1,10 => + 0,01 for each 1/4 tick)? i think it looks cool and fits the song.thinking
* - 03:31:329 (11,12) - swap colors? fits better the melody. dram follow
* - 03:55:786 - sure about no d here? no
* - 04:07:090 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - D ddkkd D => D -dk d K ? refer to my other suggestions in kiais/emphasize the first D. same
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good luck!

iceOC wrote:

hi~ from game-in chat
遅くなってすみません
初Modです(大嘘)

[General]

d = don
k = kat
D and K = big note

[Absolute Oni]

00:49:052 (6) - delete 00:47:965 (1,2,3) のリズムに合わせるほうが自然かなと思いました。fixed
01:01:226 (15,16,17) - kkd? 前の小節の反転パターンのほうが自然だと思いました。少し音に合わないような気がします。
02:17:851 (8) - delete ここは消してbigを主張させる方が自然かなと思いました。一番と比べて変化が必要だと思います
02:22:742 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - ここと00:58:400(1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9)を同じにしてはどうでしょうか。vocalが変化しているので変化が必要だと思います
02:53:829 (17) - d 似た配置 01:43:399 (17) もdだったので。01:29:160 (13,14,15,16) - と比較するのはわかりますが、そこと比較するのはあまり良いとは思いません
02:54:916 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - D ddkkd D ddk 01:30:573 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10)と04:07:090 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10)がこの配置なので。02:56:221 (10)は音が高いのでdkkでもいいかもしれませんが。第一,第三kiaiとは歌詞が違うのでそれの変化を表現しているつもりです。

時間かけた割にあんまり指摘できなくてスマン

JUDYDANNY wrote:

#1

Recheck Log 【Japanese】

• 12:08 JUDYDANNY: こんにちわ～ :3　 absolute wishはじめますね
  12:10 yassu-: 了解です～

1. 12:29 JUDYDANNY: 01:05:682 (2,3,4,5) - kd-k-d?　 , 01:09:487 (4,5) - dk? , 01:12:639 (2,3) - kd?
   12:30 JUDYDANNY: 1つ前の00:58:400 (1,2,3,4) - D--kd-kとかあたりと比較してよーく聞いてみても見てみても　なんか配色・打音ともにスッキリしない
   12:33 yassu-: うーむ
2. 12:33 JUDYDANNY: 2番目も同じように
   1. 12:33 JUDYDANNY: 02:23:068 (2,3) - kd? 02:24:807 (11,12) - dk? 02:26:546 (2,3) - kd?
   2. 12:33 JUDYDANNY: 02:30:025 (2,3,4,5,6) - kddk-d?　　02:33:503 (2,3,4,5,6) - dkkd-k?　　02:36:981 (2,3) - kd？
   12:38 yassu-: 変更しました～
   
   
3. 12:38 JUDYDANNY: 02:18:177 (9,10) - kd?　♪け～め～ぐり～　 →down to down.
   12:40 yassu-: ok
   
   
4. 12:42 JUDYDANNY: 03:47:525 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - dkd-k-dk--kっ的な感じでもう少し物量感をへしてほしい..
5. 12:42 JUDYDANNY: でここから同じように　03:50:134 - remove,　　03:51:003 (3,4,5,6) - dkd-kに　して
   12:42 JUDYDANNY: 段々とビルドアップ的な
   12:42 JUDYDANNY: （ビルドアップし始める密度をもう少し落としたいというか）
   12:46 yassu-: ok
   
   12:52 JUDYDANNY: http://puu.sh/uDB5M/c87aa7b135.png
   12:52 yassu-: ふむ。。。
   12:52 JUDYDANNY: 被ってる２つめ 03:47:090 - を削除で
   12:52 JUDYDANNY: 　それか80%のミス？
   12:55 yassu-: 削除しました
   
   
6. 13:03 JUDYDANNY: Nanjo Yoshino 南條愛乃
   13:03 JUDYDANNY: 入れた方が無難ですtagに
   13:04 yassu-: あぁ、了解です
   13:06 JUDYDANNY: これでアップお願いします～

Surono wrote:

recheck

01:47:095 (25,26,27,28,29,30,31,32,33,34,35,36,1) - and 03:11:438 (25,26,27,28,29,30,31,32,33,34,35,36,1) - this burst stream really too over imo and the sounds flow of 1/6 are "weak"
change like this screenshot: http://puu.sh/wBra9/db77f04a8c.jpg dkkkd 1/4 are to emphasize the flow sounds, it still makes sense on following drum 1/4 and so that 03:11:873 - dkkdkkd 1/6 are mapped for 1/6 drum *not only flowsounds*

01:18:834 - the 1/8 drums are just 01:18:943 - 01:18:997 - 01:19:052 - so I think its too over if you put simpler pattern in 01:19:124 - 01:19:197 - , change like this ss http://puu.sh/wBrvO/f8a224fe8e.jpg 01:18:834 - from here

02:43:177 - like above

03:55:496 - wrong emphasized, 03:55:568 - should be swap with this

04:27:742 - I dont think its 1/6, the flows of pitch are simple/weak. should be kkd

all fixed

call me back for rebubble

Surono wrote:

rebubbled

1. 01:18:834 - changed 1/4(ddkk) to make a similar flow 01:25:682 - →01:26:225 - .
   Seems better way to avoid 1/6 ddkddk or 1/6+1/4 dddk-k.
2. 02:43:177 - and 03:55:351 - , same as above.
   
   
3. 01:47:095 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - , 03:11:438 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - , return the 1/6 flows.
4. 00:22:747 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - , 02:01:008 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - , 03:39:264 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - change the 1/6 flows.
   These are following the synthesizer, not only drums. like 01:19:269 (17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,1) - them.
   
   And, its for adjustment the same 1/6 strategy "" 04:24:482 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - , 04:25:351 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - , and 04:54:916 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - ""
   (Because they're not mentioned.We can adjust, and we decided to change them.)

Surono wrote:

hmm you bring back some of them again and something I dont know 00:22:747 - maybe or nevermind, well its needed rebubble but not from me because I disagreed.

good luck

JUDYDANNY wrote:

[*]01:47:095 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - , 03:11:438 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - , return the 1/6 flows.
[*]00:22:747 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - , 02:01:008 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - , 03:39:264 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - change the 1/6 flows.
These are following the synthesizer, not only drums. like 01:19:269 (17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,1) - them.

And, its for adjustment the same 1/6 strategy "" 04:24:482 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - , 04:25:351 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - , and 04:54:916 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - ""
(Because they're not mentioned.We can adjust, and we decided to change them.)[/list]

Raiden wrote:

00:22:747 (25,26,27,28,29,30,31) - This should be 1/4, I see absolutely no reason to use 1/6 here. These are following the synthesizer. not only drums 　→Talked with Juda (and Juda asked Nardo about them a little).

00:20:139 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24) - In fact, I see also little reason to make this a full 1/4 stream considering the density you used previously was -at best- 9plets. The buildup idea is fine, the execution is not imo. Follow of drum,and I also want to direct the gap of the density of the part after this. It will makes player feel more like a quiet part.

01:18:834 - This SV up is done in a suboptimal way. You should probably smooth it out. I do not want to smoothen SV up for finish at 01: 20: 139 -, and 01:18:834 - Expression of drum change by SV up

01:26:225 (10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,1) - melody does not do 1/6 unlike in 01:19:269 (17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,1) - so, again, I see little reason to be 1/6. Should be 1/4. The actual melody sounds 1/8, but truly 1/8 putting is impossible to ranked. Since 1/8 can not be expressed well in 1/4, I set 1/6.

01:40:139 (17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,1) - same issue ^ ^

02:01:008 (25,26,27,28,29,30,31) - Same issue as the first one. This is not 1/6 same　same

01:58:399 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25) - Same as 2nd issue ^

03:11:438 (25,26,27,28,29,30) - Same, it's not 1/6 till 03:11:873 (31) - same

03:39:264 (25,26,27,28,29,30) - Same ^ ^

03:53:721 (21) - there is actually no note here but it works as a connection I guess 03:47:090 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) → 03:48:829 (10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19) → 03:50:568 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) → 03:52:308 (12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23) - buildup

03:55:351 (13,14,15,16) - ??? where are the 1/6 now? lol 02:43:177 (13,14,15,16) - 01:18:834 (13,14,15,16) - pattern


and same for last kiai

I can't really agree with the 1/6 usage in this specific map and I'd like this to have more opinions before being it's moved to ranked.

yassu- wrote:

Raiden wrote:

00:22:747 (25,26,27,28,29,30,31) - This should be 1/4, I see absolutely no reason to use 1/6 here. These are following the synthesizer. not only drums 　→Talked with Juda (and Juda asked Nardo about them a little). synthesizer is not doing any 1/6. My point still stands. Should be 1/4.

00:20:139 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24) - In fact, I see also little reason to make this a full 1/4 stream considering the density you used previously was -at best- 9plets. The buildup idea is fine, the execution is not imo. Follow of drum,and I also want to direct the gap of the density of the part after this. It will makes player feel more like a quiet part. I do not understand you. If you want to make it feel like a build up, make it denser progressively, not just jump from triplets-quints to a full on deathstream.

1. 00:20:900 (8) -
2. 00:21:769 (16) -

Delete those notes for a more appropriate build up

01:18:834 - This SV up is done in a suboptimal way. You should probably smooth it out. I do not want to smoothen SV up for finish at 01: 20: 139 -, and 01:18:834 - Expression of drum change by SV up Expression of drum by making the snap almost unreadable? Not buying this one, at all.

01:26:225 (10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,1) - melody does not do 1/6 unlike in 01:19:269 (17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,1) - so, again, I see little reason to be 1/6. Should be 1/4. The actual melody sounds 1/8, but truly 1/8 putting is impossible to ranked. Since 1/8 can not be expressed well in 1/4, I set 1/6. Melody does 1/8 in the FIRST iteration, it does NOT on the second. Not buying this one, either.

01:40:139 (17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,1) - same issue ^ ^

02:01:008 (25,26,27,28,29,30,31) - Same issue as the first one. This is not 1/6 same　same

01:58:399 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25) - Same as 2nd issue ^

03:11:438 (25,26,27,28,29,30) - Same, it's not 1/6 till 03:11:873 (31) - same

03:39:264 (25,26,27,28,29,30) - Same ^ ^

03:53:721 (21) - there is actually no note here but it works as a connection I guess 03:47:090 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) → 03:48:829 (10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19) → 03:50:568 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) → 03:52:308 (12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23) - buildup

03:55:351 (13,14,15,16) - ??? where are the 1/6 now? lol 02:43:177 (13,14,15,16) - 01:18:834 (13,14,15,16) - pattern They are certainly not the same, so 1/6 is missing here.


and same for last kiai

I can't really agree with the 1/6 usage in this specific map and I'd like this to have more opinions before being it's moved to ranked.

Raiden wrote:

00:22:747 (25,26,27,28,29,30,31) - This should be 1/4, I see absolutely no reason to use 1/6 here. These are following the synthesizer. not only drums 　→Talked with Juda (and Juda asked Nardo about them a little). synthesizer is not doing any 1/6. My point still stands. Should be 1/4.
→ok..

00:20:139 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24) - In fact, I see also little reason to make this a full 1/4 stream considering the density you used previously was -at best- 9plets. The buildup idea is fine, the execution is not imo. Follow of drum,and I also want to direct the gap of the density of the part after this. It will makes player feel more like a quiet part. I do not understand you. If you want to make it feel like a build up, make it denser progressively, not just jump from triplets-quints to a full on deathstream.

1. 00:20:900 (8) -
2. 00:21:769 (16) -

Delete those notes for a more appropriate build up
→i deleted 00:20:682 - 00:21:552 - This can express build-up more.

01:18:834 - This SV up is done in a suboptimal way. You should probably smooth it out. I do not want to smoothen SV up for finish at 01: 20: 139 -, and 01:18:834 - Expression of drum change by SV up Expression of drum by making the snap almost unreadable? Not buying this one, at all.
→01:18:834 - 02:43:177 - SV change green line deleted


01:26:225 (10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,1) - melody does not do 1/6 unlike in 01:19:269 (17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,1) - so, again, I see little reason to be 1/6. Should be 1/4. The actual melody sounds 1/8, but truly 1/8 putting is impossible to ranked. Since 1/8 can not be expressed well in 1/4, I set 1/6. Melody does 1/8 in the FIRST iteration, it does NOT on the second. Not buying this one, either.
→I can't approve of 01:26:225 (10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,1) - . most of the players are almost the same melody 01:19:269 (17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,1) -. One thing that sounds like 1/4 is the fact that other sounds are mixed. The other is that 01:26:225 - is weaker than 01:19:269 - . But essentially the sound is the same.

03:55:351 (13,14,15,16) - ??? where are the 1/6 now? lol 02:43:177 (13,14,15,16) - 01:18:834 (13,14,15,16) - pattern They are certainly not the same, so 1/6 is missing here.
→Actually there are also 1/6 01:18:834 - 02:43:177 - , But 1/6 is prominent at 03: 55: 351 - , i added 03:55:351 - 1/6

Considering that technically no change was made for this map and that it could technically become requalified without further moderation, I am placing a pop on JUDY's bubble to prevent it from being valid unther further argumentation is made or until you find a 3rd person that agrees with you. Let's find more opinions, shall we? I am sadly not very convinced with your argumentation.

Have a good day.

→I can't approve of 01:26:225 (10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,1) - . most of the players are almost the same melody 01:19:269 (17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,1) -. One thing that sounds like 1/4 is the fact that other sounds are mixed. The other is that 01:26:225 - is weaker than 01:19:269 - . But essentially the sound is the same.

Raiden wrote:

→I can't approve of 01:26:225 (10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,1) - . most of the players are almost the same melody 01:19:269 (17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,1) -. One thing that sounds like 1/4 is the fact that other sounds are mixed. The other is that 01:26:225 - is weaker than 01:19:269 - . But essentially the sound is the same.

I can't approve it either. Sound is not the same. At all. It is entirely different. It's not weaker, it's different. Therefore 1/6 is not justified here. Not only it's wrong snap-wise, but it's also inconsistent, so the improvisation argument would not work in this case.

The only justified 1/6 are:

01:19:269 (17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,1) -

02:43:612 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13) -

The rest sound like 1/4 dkdkdkd. So my final stand is to make them 1/4 patterns.

Surono wrote:

I tried to make it sure

* 01:47:095 - ~ 01:47:457 - previously you said to overall follow drums? change it to 1/4 then, high burst sounds are from 01:47:530 - here, just like my pop post that I've pointd them b4. my suggestion: from 01:46:225 - here = dkddkkddkkdkd, it sounds not monotone imo. try, why not?
hmmm...keep.. dkddkkddkkdkd is not fit to drum. 01:26:225 (10,11,12,13,14,) - 01:33:182 (20,21,22,23,24) - I follow the sounds of this pattern.

* 03:10:568 - same above same

* 01:32:095 - 02:56:438 - 04:08:612 - feels awkward if you leave them empty. drum follow ^

just comment
when I pop'd it b4, my concern is about emphasized purpose on patterning. yeah now looks better to follow drum since the synth in there is weak, so safe. tbh im 01:26:225 - fine with previously snap cuz suppossed to follow synth than drum. but when I listen 01:47:095 - from here, this is actually my main concern.. different burst sound and weak synth thats actually seems over to mapped as 1/6 at all

call me back if you consindered to fix those 3 points.

yassu- wrote:

Surono wrote:

I tried to make it sure

* 01:47:095 - ~ 01:47:457 - previously you said to overall follow drums? change it to 1/4 then, high burst sounds are from 01:47:530 - here, just like my pop post that I've pointd them b4. my suggestion: from 01:46:225 - here = dkddkkddkkdkd, it sounds not monotone imo. try, why not?
hmmm...keep.. dkddkkddkkdkd is not fit to drum. 01:26:225 (10,11,12,13,14,) - 01:33:182 (20,21,22,23,24) - I follow the sounds of this pattern. but those are different, i meant 01:47:095 - ~ 01:47:965 - compare with 01:19:269 - ~ 01:20:139 - this because its more high on synth. 01:47:095 - ~ 01:47:457 - you should change it to 1/4 because its similar synth with 01:26:225 - ~ 01:27:095 - and i dont think there is 1/6 clearly sound or something high burst like 01:47:530 - ~ 01:47:965 - this,

* 03:10:568 - same above same ^

* 01:32:095 - 02:56:438 - 04:08:612 - feels awkward if you leave them empty. drum follow ^ there is hithat sound, if you still thought them is empty cuz only follow drum you should 01:28:617 - delete this etc. so add them to keep density

Surono wrote:

I tried to make it sure

* 01:47:095 - ~ 01:47:457 - previously you said to overall follow drums? change it to 1/4 then, high burst sounds are from 01:47:530 - here, just like my pop post that I've pointd them b4. my suggestion: from 01:46:225 - here = dkddkkddkkdkd, it sounds not monotone imo. try, why not?
hmmm...keep.. dkddkkddkkdkd is not fit to drum. 01:26:225 (10,11,12,13,14,) - 01:33:182 (20,21,22,23,24) - I follow the sounds of this pattern. but those are different, i meant 01:47:095 - ~ 01:47:965 - compare with 01:19:269 - ~ 01:20:139 - this because its more high on synth. 01:47:095 - ~ 01:47:457 - you should change it to 1/4 because its similar synth with 01:26:225 - ~ 01:27:095 - and i dont think there is 1/6 clearly sound or something high burst like 01:47:530 - ~ 01:47:965 - this, fixed?

* 03:10:568 - same above same ^ ^

* 01:32:095 - 02:56:438 - 04:08:612 - feels awkward if you leave them empty. drum follow ^ there is hithat sound, if you still thought them is empty cuz only follow drum you should 01:28:617 - delete this etc. so add them to keep density^

Surono wrote:

change diffname

Absolute Oni -> absolute oni to fit with capital letter of title song
ok,changed

1. 04:55:713 - ~ 04:55:786 - add kiai lol.
2. 01:26:878 (16,17) - , 02:51:221 (21,22) - etc... changed to kk, for emphasized the next part.

zigizigiefe wrote:

おめでとう o: