Imany - Don't Be So Shy (Filatov & Karas Remix) (Nightcore M · forum

AnimeStyle

Joined December 2012

Topic Starter

AnimeStyle 2017-07-02T22:43:32+00:00

This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Montag, 30. Oktober 2017 at 16:32:06

Artist: Imany
Title: Don't Be So Shy (Filatov & Karas Remix) (Nightcore Mix)
Tags: 2015 Nadia Mladjao Sherika Sherard Eurodance The Wrong Kind of War French Women Okorin Okoratu Sous les jupes des filles
BPM: 150,43
Filesize: 7122kb
Play Time: 02:27
Difficulties Available:

Easy (1,11 stars, 116 notes)
Insane (3,98 stars, 513 notes)
Normal (1,96 stars, 246 notes)
oko's Hard (3,38 stars, 415 notes)
oko's Intermediate (2,78 stars, 316 notes)

Download: Imany - Don't Be So Shy (Filatov & Karas Remix) (Nightcore Mix)
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Last edited by AnimeStyle 2017-10-30T15:33:25+00:00, edited 46 times in total.

LimePixel

184 posts

Joined March 2015

LimePixel 2017-07-11T21:41:40+00:00

NM request.

[Normal]
-00:16:342 (6,1) - These go against the natural movement of the slider body of 00:15:744 (5). Follow the curve line of the slider body and lead into the other objects especially when they're separated by a 1/2 gap
-00:54:034 (6) - Unnecessarily complex slider shape.
-01:49:874 (4,5,1) - Same situation as above

[Insane]
You might want to increase the CS a bit. Just a suggestion.
Imo you have too much variety in this difficulty. Examples:
-00:00:588 (1,2,3,4,5,6) / 00:05:374 (1,2,3,4) / 00:06:969 (1,2,3,4,5) / 00:08:565 (1,2,3,4) - These are all different ways to map the sounds. While they're perfectly valid, they're not really intuitive while playing. I suggest using big differences when switching from one section of the song to another. In one section use 2 ways of the above mentioned patterns, and in another section use the others. Here, it's not even 10 seconds into the map song and we see multiple patterns, all different.
Also be consistent with your placement of objects and pattern creation. Extreme example would be: 01:11:185 (3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4) - While there ARE some geometric shapes being created in other patterns, not to this extent. It just feels out of place when basically all the other same sounds are mapped a lot differently (pattern-wise).

Won't really continue since these issues take priority. I suggest remapping the Insane diff. If you decide to do so, I'd be happy to mod it again when you're finished.

AnimeStyle

653 posts

Joined December 2012

Topic Starter

AnimeStyle 2017-07-11T22:50:39+00:00

LimePixel wrote:
NM request.

[Normal]
-00:16:342 (6,1) - These go against the natural movement of the slider body of 00:15:744 (5). Follow the curve line of the slider body and lead into the other objects especially when they're separated by a 1/2 gap - (4,5,6) go in a straight line so it doesnt matter
-00:54:034 (6) - Unnecessarily complex slider shape. - fixed
-01:49:874 (4,5,1) - Same situation as above - nah I'll leave it how it is

[Insane]
You might want to increase the CS a bit. Just a suggestion. - 4,5 is the way to go
Imo you have too much variety in this difficulty. Examples:
-00:00:588 (1,2,3,4,5,6) / 00:05:374 (1,2,3,4) / 00:06:969 (1,2,3,4,5) / 00:08:565 (1,2,3,4) - These are all different ways to map the sounds. While they're perfectly valid, they're not really intuitive while playing. I suggest using big differences when switching from one section of the song to another. In one section use 2 ways of the above mentioned patterns, and in another section use the others. Here, it's not even 10 seconds into the map song and we see multiple patterns, all different. - I don't know how experienced u are - but the music pattern changed so I adapt to it - also it's consistent throughout the difficulty
Also be consistent with your placement of objects and pattern creation. Extreme example would be: 01:11:185 (3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4) - While there ARE some geometric shapes being created in other patterns, not to this extent. It just feels out of place when basically all the other same sounds are mapped a lot differently (pattern-wise). - I like variety - I really dislike using the same patterns alle the time. After I checked a few of your maps it's obvious why you suggested that - because you are fond of doing that - which is totally fine, but it doesn't float my boat.

Won't really continue since these issues take priority. I suggest remapping the Insane diff. If you decide to do so, I'd be happy to mod it again when you're finished. - sorry for refusing a lot of your suggestions but I'll like it how it is qwq

FunnyA

643 posts

Joined April 2016

FunnyA 2017-07-12T04:11:40+00:00

Hello... From FunnyA's Moddin Queue

Normal

00:34:091 (4,5) - Blanket it Perfectly
00:55:630 (2,3) - Blanket, it's better IMO
01:04:405 (1,2) - Blanket it Perfectly
01:16:370 (6,1) - Don't you do it (overlap)
01:17:168 (1) - IMO, it's better you click Ctrl H to avoid overlap.

Metadata

~Please Add the Tag in your Song Set Up (eg name or nickname artist, album name, track release year, etc.)
~Turn off or remove the checklist on Widescreen Support and Letterbox during Break (Advanced) in Normal and Insane diff. Because it is turned on your map that it has Storyboard.[/list]

General

Your hitsound is very good. You are also understand in music and I love it ^^
But you must also improve the flow especially the insane diff so the pattern is more interesting.
I'm sorry if I gave you a little advice (especially insane diff). But, if any of my suggestions that you do not change it, no problem. And it depends on you whether it's good for you or not.

Lastly, Try checking again on AiMod ... Press (Ctrl + Shift + A)

Maybe ... that's all I can modding your map. Hopefully your map can be ranked.
So, Fighting ^^

AnimeStyle

653 posts

Joined December 2012

Topic Starter

AnimeStyle 2017-07-12T14:02:58+00:00

ulfanirahmi wrote:
Hello... From FunnyA's Moddin Queue

Normal
00:34:091 (4,5) - Blanket it Perfectly - fixed
00:55:630 (2,3) - Blanket, it's better IMO - ^ - sliders slide into each other from end to beginning
01:04:405 (1,2) - Blanket it Perfectly - ^ - already fixed
01:16:370 (6,1) - Don't you do it (overlap) - overlap is only a problem when there is something hitable beneath it, also since (1) got a new combo color it's easy to grasp
01:17:168 (1) - IMO, it's better you click Ctrl H to avoid overlap. - ^

Metadata
~Please Add the Tag in your Song Set Up (eg name or nickname artist, album name, track release year, etc.) - added
~Turn off or remove the checklist on Widescreen Support and Letterbox during Break (Advanced) in Normal and Insane diff. Because it is turned on your map that it has Storyboard.- fixed [/list]

General
Your hitsound is very good. You are also understand in music and I love it ^^ - Thx I'm really pleased to hear that c:
But you must also improve the flow especially the insane diff so the pattern is more interesting. - My general mapping style on harder maps is instead os using jumps I'll like going in opposite directions - not everyone is fond of that, but well no map is liked by everyone ~
I'm sorry if I gave you a little advice (especially insane diff). But, if any of my suggestions that you do not change it, no problem. And it depends on you whether it's good for you or not. - thanks for being constructive, many people think they are omniscient around here

Lastly, Try checking again on AiMod ... Press (Ctrl + Shift + A) - I'm always doing that before recruiting modders - the spacing issues on Insane can't be fixed,
and kiai is perfectly placed, Chorus is simply shorter than 15 seconds xD

Maybe ... that's all I can modding your map. Hopefully your map can be ranked.
So, Fighting ^^

Last edited by AnimeStyle 2017-07-13T19:02:37+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

leo16834

471 posts

Joined August 2011

leo16834 2017-07-13T07:36:35+00:00

Hi~

After the work is over, I open computer and mod it quickly xD

Nice hitsound!

Normal

00:00:588 (1,2) - Fix blanket

00:24:120 (3,4) - ^

01:05:801 (4) - This one DS may to revise (0.99 vs 1.04, I think the tolerance scope on + -3)

01:18:763 (3,4) - The silder 3 has a heavy note need to click,I think silder effect is not big ,and this part DS need to revise, bcz I think be consistent.

01:21:954 (3,4) - ^

01:25:145 (3,4) - ^

01:43:094 (6) - move to x336 y233, maintain straight

02:05:031 (5,6) - Fix blanket

02:16:199 (1,2) - The flow was shelter , I think need to adjust position

Insane

00:33:393 (4) - I think this one change a circle .Although I know you want to follow vocal ,I think 00:33:493 - heavy voice need to emphasize

01:00:815 (6,1) - I think put this way is good look

01:38:807 (4) - delete this circle

02:20:387 (5,6,7) - I think this part can change 5 circles

02:28:364 (5) - I think this one can change a circle , emphasize echo hit

Nice song~

I hope can finish all the level

Time to sleep , I'm so tired after work

waiting for you~

Good Luck~

AnimeStyle

653 posts

Joined December 2012

Topic Starter

AnimeStyle 2017-07-13T16:21:16+00:00

leo16834 wrote:
Hi~

After the work is over, I open computer and mod it quickly xD

Nice hitsound! - Thx c:

Normal

00:00:588 (1,2) - Fix blanket - fixed

00:24:120 (3,4) - ^ - fixed

01:05:801 (4) - This one DS may to revise (0.99 vs 1.04, I think the tolerance scope on + -3) - fixed

01:18:763 (3,4) - The silder 3 has a heavy note need to click,I think silder effect is not big ,and this part DS need to revise, bcz I think be consistent. - slidertick does this job for me - I did this intentionally - feels better for playing purposes

01:21:954 (3,4) - ^ - ^

01:25:145 (3,4) - ^ - ^

01:43:094 (6) - move to x336 y233, maintain straight - curvy slider fits better imo

02:05:031 (5,6) - Fix blanket - fixed

02:16:199 (1,2) - The flow was shelter , I think need to adjust position - totally fine how it is - also parallel to a few seconds before

Insane

00:33:393 (4) - I think this one change a circle .Although I know you want to follow vocal ,I think 00:33:493 - heavy voice need to emphasize - I consider this oh rather weak

01:00:815 (6,1) - I think put this way is good look - would criple the pattern, also (6), (1), and (2) are all rotated by the same degree count

01:38:807 (4) - delete this circle - is neccessary beat-wise

02:20:387 (5,6,7) - I think this part can change 5 circles - Need to rethink that one

02:28:364 (5) - I think this one can change a circle , emphasize echo hit - tried it - sounds too empty imo

Nice song~ - thx again xD sorry for refusing so much stuff qwq

I hope can finish all the level

Time to sleep , I'm so tired after work

waiting for you~

Good Luck~

-Yuyuko-

15 posts

Joined May 2015

-Yuyuko- 2017-07-13T17:50:24+00:00

This is my FIRST TIME I mod a map, so it may be bad sorry
+bad grammer

Awesome hitsounds! I love it!

Normal

00:43:664 (4) - change slider shape to this:

Makes it flow more natural in my opinion.
01:25:145 (3) - make slider ends at 01:25:544, and add circle at 01:25:743. I think this is better rhythm.

Insane

00:47:653 (4) - consider deleting circle and start with a one slider
00:52:539 (5) - consider moving to x:168 y:304 and change slider form
00:56:826 (2) - reverse sliders
01:07:396 - maybe add circle
02:01:242 (4,5,6,7,8) - how about change this to 02:00:444 (2,3) pattern

Wow I need to sleep it's almost 3 AM in korea right now
Well hope this get ranked!
PM me or reply for more questions! thank you!

AnimeStyle

653 posts

Joined December 2012

Topic Starter

AnimeStyle 2017-07-13T18:58:01+00:00

Kaban wrote:
This is my FIRST TIME I mod a map, so it may be bad sorry
+bad grammer - everyone starts somewhere and no judges your grammar around here xD

Awesome hitsounds! I love it! - it's really satisfying to see that every one likes it qwq

Normal
00:43:664 (4) - change slider shape to this: - actually I like that idea

Makes it flow more natural in my opinion.
01:25:145 (3) - make slider ends at 01:25:544, and add circle at 01:25:743. I think this is better rhythm. - it feels better like that - also looks - but I get where you are coming from
Insane
00:47:653 (4) - consider deleting circle and start with a one slider - doesn't look that good imo
00:52:539 (5) - consider moving to x:168 y:304 and change slider form - fixed
00:56:826 (2) - reverse sliders -makes no sense consistency and musicaly wise
01:07:396 - maybe add circle - ^
02:01:242 (4,5,6,7,8) - how about change this to 02:00:444 (2,3) pattern - consistency - also it would break my violin hitsounding
Wow I need to sleep it's almost 3 AM in korea right now
Well hope this get ranked!
PM me or reply for more questions! thank you!

Vespirit

350 posts

Joined December 2014

Vespirit 2017-07-13T20:17:15+00:00

this song is so fkn chill xd

[

Normal]

00:06:969 (1,2) - switch these so that the slider comes first, for consistency with 00:00:588 (1,2) (it also works better this way to emphasize the higher pitch at 00:07:767)
00:42:069 (1) - ctrl+h this slider so that it leads into the next circle
02:16:199 (1) - the anchor point is really awkwardly close to the next slider, i would suggest move it to above the sliderhead and slider tail
02:21:783 (5,6) - you skip over some strong sounds on the red tick here... imo would fit the music more to have a circle followed by a 1/2 reverse slider, kinda like at 02:15:600 (6)

really well polished normal, i like it

[

Insane]

00:10:958 (5,6,7) - really weird flow here... i think you could have (5) angle downwards instead of up, and then fix the position of (6) and (7) so that it feels less awkward to play
02:13:805 (5,6) - ^
00:21:727 (2,3) - this doesnt really have to overlap (1), imo you could make this look much cleaner without the overlap
01:00:815 (6) - ^
00:23:721 (4) - anchor this slider the other way so that it points toward the sliderhead of (5)
01:01:214 (1) - move this further down to give it more space from (6) and (2)
02:20:387 (5,6,7) - weird emphasis here, maybe just make it a 5 circle stream

great job, its coming along nicely

good luck!

AnimeStyle

653 posts

Joined December 2012

Topic Starter

AnimeStyle 2017-07-13T21:57:54+00:00

HydroCannon13 wrote:
this song is so fkn chill xd
[ Normal]
00:06:969 (1,2) - switch these so that the slider comes first, for consistency with 00:00:588 (1,2) (it also works better this way to emphasize the higher pitch at 00:07:767) - didn't realize that I always used a slider at this part except there - good job noticing that!- also fixed it later in the map
00:42:069 (1) - ctrl+h this slider so that it leads into the next circle - fixed
02:16:199 (1) - the anchor point is really awkwardly close to the next slider, i would suggest move it to above the sliderhead and slider tail - slider is placed at this spot two times before - consistency and stuff
02:21:783 (5,6) - you skip over some strong sounds on the red tick here... imo would fit the music more to have a circle followed by a 1/2 reverse slider, kinda like at 02:15:600 (6) - completly right - fixed
really well polished normal, i like it - and now it's more polished thx to you #SOGRATEFUL
[ Insane]
00:10:958 (5,6,7) - really weird flow here... i think you could have (5) angle downwards instead of up, and then fix the position of (6) and (7) so that it feels less awkward to play - weird indead, but I like it that way
02:13:805 (5,6) - ^ ^
00:21:727 (2,3) - this doesnt really have to overlap (1), imo you could make this look much cleaner without the overlap - overlap is intentional
01:00:815 (6) - ^ - ^
00:23:721 (4) - anchor this slider the other way so that it points toward the sliderhead of (5) - fixed
01:01:214 (1) - move this further down to give it more space from (6) and (2) - unneccasry imo
02:20:387 (5,6,7) - weird emphasis here, maybe just make it a 5 circle stream - play the music at 25% you'll hear it pretty easily, I know that I didn't use that patter later in the song, but that's mainly bc of looks

great job, its coming along nicely
good luck! - thx in any regard :3

Enkrypton

217 posts

Joined November 2014

Enkrypton 2017-07-14T03:39:02+00:00

From my mod queue. Very Lewd Lyrics owo its my 69th forum post too

Normal
00:00:588 (1,5) - i would reccomend not hand-making sliders that map similar rhythm in lower star diffs, use copy paste to make these, have a pallet of sliders
00:01:784 (3,4,5) - i would shape this like a big curve, move 00:01:983 (4) - up and to the right a little. Some of this design is fine since u have a parallel straight slider right after, but alone, i think a curve looks better
00:15:744 (5,6,1) - looks kinda weird, i would move 00:16:342 (6,1) - down and to the left a little so it feels and looks like 00:15:744 (5) - curves into them
00:45:259 (1) - i would try to find a way to make this curve down wards so it looks nice and flows with 00:43:664 (4) -
00:57:823 (6) - see second mod
01:05:801 (4) - ^

Insane
00:16:342 (6,1,2) - i would try to make the straight line these 3 objects form parallel to 00:16:043 (5) -
00:21:328 (1,2,3) - avoid the overlap here it looks kinda random
00:39:077 (2,4) - try to make these have same location instead of the random overlap
01:28:137 - add a circle here
01:45:886 (1,4) - avoid the random overlap, i say stack instead
02:23:777 (5,2) - stack slider tail with circle, looks alot better

I love your violin hit sounds! Good luck with set!

AnimeStyle

653 posts

Joined December 2012

Topic Starter

AnimeStyle 2017-07-14T13:25:11+00:00

Enkrypton wrote:
From my mod queue. Very Lewd Lyrics owo its my 69th forum post too

Normal
00:00:588 (1,5) - i would reccomend not hand-making sliders that map similar rhythm in lower star diffs, use copy paste to make these, have a pallet of sliders - doesn't make easier nor harder - I really dislike the "it's easy and that's why it has to be bland and boring mentality"
00:01:784 (3,4,5) - i would shape this like a big curve, move 00:01:983 (4) - up and to the right a little. Some of this design is fine since u have a parallel straight slider right after, but alone, i think a curve looks better - I like it how it is
00:15:744 (5,6,1) - looks kinda weird, i would move 00:16:342 (6,1) - down and to the left a little so it feels and looks like 00:15:744 (5) - curves into them - would destroy the pattern - the sliders differ 180 degree from each other - also they blanket the second slider after them
00:45:259 (1) - i would try to find a way to make this curve down wards so it looks nice and flows with 00:43:664 (4) - fixed
00:57:823 (6) - see second mod - ^
01:05:801 (4) - ^ - ^

Insane
00:16:342 (6,1,2) - i would try to make the straight line these 3 objects form parallel to 00:16:043 (5) - completly agree - wasted opportunity
00:21:328 (1,2,3) - avoid the overlap here it looks kinda random - it isn't
00:39:077 (2,4) - try to make these have same location instead of the random overlap - intentional
01:28:137 - add a circle here - would have needed to apply this before - also I don't follow vocals in that part
01:45:886 (1,4) - avoid the random overlap, i say stack instead - mhhh okay - it's easily revertable so why not
02:23:777 (5,2) - stack slider tail with circle, looks alot better - I rather like those two sliders stacked sry - but that's preference

I love your violin hit sounds! Good luck with set! - thank you ^^ and sorry for rejecting so much qwq

Kensuke

1,856 posts

Joined April 2014

Kensuke 2017-07-14T15:03:20+00:00

trying to mod. sorry if my mod is rather bad.

[General]

Shouldn't the song's title named "Don't Be so Shy" (with the capital letters in Be and Shy) due to itunes.
I think you could instead replace "Sous les jupes des filles" in source and move french woman in tags instead.
I think 2015 is unnecessary. So consider delete it but it's up to your decision.
Difficulty spread between Normal and Insane is pretty high. Consider adding a diff between this spread.
I think you could lighten color 4 a little bit. It's too dark and may cause players to see since most of players use 100% dim background. If you fix this then consider darken color 5 a little too.

[Normal]

00:08:166 (3) - consider changing it to 2 circles. like you did on 00:04:975 (3,4) and the others.
00:29:305 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - aren't there a lot of circles? maybe change to sliders instead. making continuous circles might make players miss.
00:54:832 (1,2,3) - so the first kiai, you decided to use 6 circles. and the second kiai, you instead using 3 sliders here? consider making they the same for consistency in the map
01:01:214 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - ^
In my opinion, 1/2-beat triplet might be hard for newbies.

It's fairly good. I like how you did hitsounds on insane diff.
Good luck!

AnimeStyle

653 posts

Joined December 2012

Topic Starter

AnimeStyle 2017-07-14T15:54:28+00:00

- Frontier - wrote:
trying to mod. sorry if my mod is rather bad.

[General]
Shouldn't the song's title named "Don't Be so Shy" (with the capital letters in Be and Shy) due to itunes. - fixed
I think you could instead replace "Sous les jupes des filles" in source and move french woman in tags instead. fixed
I think 2015 is unnecessary. So consider delete it but it's up to your decision. - I want to keep it ^^
Difficulty spread between Normal and Insane is pretty high. Consider adding a diff between this spread. - you are right - I'm waiting for someone to do a GD (It takes me way too long to map - that's why)
I think you could lighten color 4 a little bit. It's too dark and may cause players to see since most of players use 100% dim background. If you fix this then consider darken color 5 a little too.- fixed
[Normal]
00:08:166 (3) - consider changing it to 2 circles. like you did on 00:04:975 (3,4) and the others. - I dislike using always the same mapping pattern - als long as it's rhythmwise the same it doesn't matter imo
00:29:305 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - aren't there a lot of circles? maybe change to sliders instead. making continuous circles might make players miss. - fixed
00:54:832 (1,2,3) - so the first kiai, you decided to use 6 circles. and the second kiai, you instead using 3 sliders here? consider making they the same for consistency in the map - ^
01:01:214 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - ^
In my opinion, 1/2-beat triplet might be hard for newbies. - fixed

It's fairly good. I like how you did hitsounds on insane diff. - thx fron-senpai <3
Good luck!

Azinlen

330 posts

Joined May 2016

Azinlen 2017-07-14T17:10:29+00:00

Hello from my Modding Queue!
rly? lol :^)
AWESOME HITSOUNDS!

Normal

00:13:351 (1) - maybe some this https://puu.sh/wJrKd/c609ca748c.png ?
02:09:019 (6) - some this https://puu.sh/wJvCK/df52aa82dd.png

Insane

00:10:958 (5,6) - maybe this https://puu.sh/wJvRd/d20382efa6.png ?
01:38:806 (4) - no need,delete.

yShadowXOP_

542 posts

Joined January 2016

yShadowXOP_ 2017-07-14T17:57:57+00:00

NM

INSANE

00:27:012 (4) - i do not understand why there is a circle here that has no sound :/
00:50:943 (4) - i think this should start here 00:51:043 -
00:59:120 (5) - no have sound
01:53:264 - mini reverse 1/8?

map in my opinion is great, just need to be rank XD

AnimeStyle

653 posts

Joined December 2012

Topic Starter

AnimeStyle 2017-07-14T22:41:04+00:00

YashaPlay wrote:
Hello from my Modding Queue!
rly? lol :^)
AWESOME HITSOUNDS!
Normal
00:13:351 (1) - maybe some this https://puu.sh/wJrKd/c609ca748c.png ? - 00:13:351 (1,3) - they are a happy family - pls don't part them
02:09:019 (6) - some this https://puu.sh/wJvCK/df52aa82dd.png - 02:08:221 (5,6) ^
Insane
00:10:958 (5,6) - maybe this https://puu.sh/wJvRd/d20382efa6.png ? - why does no one like that except me qwq
01:38:806 (4) - no need,delete. - needed for consistency - this time she starts to sing a little bit off-beat

AnimeStyle

653 posts

Joined December 2012

Topic Starter

AnimeStyle 2017-07-14T22:46:57+00:00

yShadowXOP_ wrote:
NM
INSANE

00:27:012 (4) - i do not understand why there is a circle here that has no sound :/ - sometimes she starts singing off-beat - thats why
00:50:943 (4) - i think this should start here 00:51:043 - ^
00:59:120 (5) - no have sound - con - sis - ten - cy
01:53:264 - mini reverse 1/8? - ^

map in my opinion is great, just need to be rank XD - [/color]

Hishiro Chizuru

Hishiro Chizuru 2017-07-15T17:28:17+00:00

Normal:

00:18:137 (4) - I would blanket this with 00:17:738 (3) -
00:41:670 (6) - Angle this so that it flows better into 00:42:069 (1) -
00:55:630 (2,3) - blanket maybe?
00:57:624 (5,6) - I would move this up and left more so that the flow into 00:58:023 (1) - is better
01:06:798 (6,7,1) - on normal this might be hard to read for new players.
01:16:370 (6) - I would move this off the 01:17:168 (1) - as it might confuse the player
01:49:874 (4,5,1) - better flow especially at this difficulty might be warranted (this statement applies to other same patterns as this)

Insane:

I'll be honest I couldn't even play the rhythm of this for some reason >.<
So I'll just focus on everything but rhythm (i'm assuming I'm just bad with these kind of songs and low bpm)

00:09:362 (5) - I would follow the flow you got from here 00:08:166 (7,1) -
00:10:958 (5,6) - I don't like the spacing here, I would just make the 6 closer to the sliderend of the 5
00:17:040 (3,4) - on this you kept flow, however here 00:13:750 (3,4) - and here 00:15:345 (3,4) - you break flow for the same sound.
00:45:658 (3,4) - ^
01:00:117 (3,4,5,6) - this was just needlessly hard to read given the music at that part
01:08:792 (6,1) - sudden overlap and flow change is awkward
other issues are just reiterations of what i mention above

On this diff, you use a lot of linear jumps and wide angle jumps, but sometimes there were sneaks of those standard sharp angle jumps/movements which felt out of place.

Overall, work on aesthetics as the map looked a bit messy and randomly placed. The rhythm, I can't really judge because I could barely read it xd

Good luck

Okoayu

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Okoayu 2017-07-16T15:02:23+00:00

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186,248,141982,1,0,0:0:0:0:
186,248,142082,1,0,0:0:0:0:
186,248,142182,1,8,0:0:0:0:
289,30,142580,6,0,B|342:48|398:45|396:46,1,82.5000025177003,6|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
482,168,142979,1,8,0:0:0:0:
368,129,143179,2,2,P|312:113|183:131,1,165.000005035401,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
93,57,143777,1,8,0:0:0:0:
120,171,143976,1,0,0:0:0:0:
4,127,144176,5,2,0:0:0:0:
31,241,144375,2,0,P|34:290|24:348,1,82.5000025177003,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
135,177,144774,2,0,B|175:162|220:172|206:185|251:200|315:175,1,165.000005035401
351,191,145273,1,0,0:0:0:0:
351,191,145372,2,0,P|341:236|342:275,1,82.5000025177003,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
437,78,145771,5,2,0:0:0:0:
330,109,145971,1,2,0:0:0:0:
220,79,146170,1,8,0:0:0:0:
108,116,146370,2,2,P|140:159|137:281,1,165.000005035401,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
143,266,146868,1,0,0:0:0:0:
143,266,146968,2,0,P|96:254|49:258,1,82.5000025177003,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
235,199,147367,5,0,0:0:0:0:
235,199,147566,2,0,B|228:259|244:352|245:352,2,123.75000377655,0|0|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:

if it breaks spread ill just make another one

CucumberCuc

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Joined January 2016

CucumberCuc 2017-07-17T06:17:10+00:00

Hi

[Normal]
00:08:166 (3,4) slightly are close, do far
00:21:328 (4) maybe end slider move left for better distance?
00:30:103 (3,4,5) slightly different range
00:34:091 (4) you probably can leave this blanket slider, but it seems to me that it would not be very convenient for players
00:35:687 (1) end slider move right for distance
00:38:878 (1) maybe move up for better distance?
01:04:006 (6,1) like for 00:08:166
01:06:798 (6,7) i think be better if you do ctrl+g
01:17:168 (1,2,3) etc. on Hard this would apply, but then you need to do something with the range as they are too close, so fix this
01:28:336 (3) move to x:326 y:178 for better distance
01:45:886 (4) like for 00:34:091
01:47:481 (1) end slider move left for better distance
02:11:014 (3) move slightly left

[oko's Hard]
00:19:533 (5) move down for better flow
00:20:929 (1) move slightly to the right to start the slider at 00:21:727 looked at him?
00:45:658 (2,3,4) if you look at the ticks, I think you should do the opposite to the slider and the circle was nearer, and the circles further apart
00:58:023 (1,2) I think that they can make some more curved for better flow
01:26:541 put circle for voice?
02:21:184 (1,2) like for 00:58:023

[Insane]
00:13:550 (2,4) - 00:15:146 (2,4) maybe make them identical in range?

Okoayu

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Okoayu 2017-07-17T20:53:27+00:00

why did you change AR and OD on it without really asking, not saying i care much about the combocolors either but that's just kinda bad manners lol

AnimeStyle

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Topic Starter

AnimeStyle 2017-07-18T03:30:39+00:00

[ amb1d3x ] wrote:
Normal:

00:18:137 (4) - I would blanket this with 00:17:738 (3) - 00:18:137 (4,1) looks better how it is
00:41:670 (6) - Angle this so that it flows better into 00:42:069 (1) - 00:40:473 (4,6) ^
00:55:630 (2,3) - blanket maybe? - 2 flows into 1 - 3 into 2
00:57:624 (5,6) - I would move this up and left more so that the flow into 00:58:023 (1) - can't go any more left - also more than a straight line going into it isn't possible
01:06:798 (6,7,1) - on normal this might be hard to read for new players. - since (1) is a NC this isn't a problem - also I playtested this diff with people of that skill level
01:16:370 (6) - I would move this off the 01:17:168 (1) - as it might confuse the player - ^
01:49:874 (4,5,1) - better flow especially at this difficulty might be warranted (this statement applies to other same patterns as this) - the only thing that newbies have a problem is stacking

Insane:

I'll be honest I couldn't even play the rhythm of this for some reason >.<
So I'll just focus on everything but rhythm (i'm assuming I'm just bad with these kind of songs and low bpm)

00:09:362 (5) - I would follow the flow you got from here 00:08:166 (7,1) - fixed
00:10:958 (5,6) - I don't like the spacing here, I would just make the 6 closer to the sliderend of the 5 - same spacing as always
00:17:040 (3,4) - on this you kept flow, however here 00:13:750 (3,4) - and here 00:15:345 (3,4) - you break flow for the same sound. - would be boring - variety is nice
00:45:658 (3,4) - ^ - ^
01:00:117 (3,4,5,6) - this was just needlessly hard to read given the music at that part - it's always the same rhythm and this is the secong chorus, after the first it should be quite obvious when you have to hit things
01:08:792 (6,1) - sudden overlap and flow change is awkward - overlap on both (1) and (5) are about the same depth - doesn't look akward to me
other issues are just reiterations of what i mention above

On this diff, you use a lot of linear jumps and wide angle jumps, but sometimes there were sneaks of those standard sharp angle jumps/movements which felt out of place. - there is not a singe jump in this diffculty - it's like you didn't even try to mod my map

Overall, work on aesthetics as the map looked a bit messy and randomly placed. The rhythm, I can't really judge because I could barely read it xd

Good luck

AnimeStyle

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Topic Starter

AnimeStyle 2017-07-18T03:54:50+00:00

CucumberCuc wrote:
Hi

[Normal]
00:08:166 (3,4) slightly are close, do far - fixed
00:21:328 (4) maybe end slider move left for better distance? - fixed
00:30:103 (3,4,5) slightly different range - fixed
00:34:091 (4) you probably can leave this blanket slider, but it seems to me that it would not be very convenient for players - they didn't had any problems with it don't worry
00:35:687 (1) end slider move right for distance - distance is fine imo
00:38:878 (1) maybe move up for better distance? - blanket fixed
01:04:006 (6,1) like for 00:08:166 - fixed
01:06:798 (6,7) i think be better if you do ctrl+g - don't like the flow it creates
01:17:168 (1,2,3) etc. on Hard this would apply, but then you need to do something with the range as they are too close, so fix this - I use a constant different DS through this - newbies get this
01:28:336 (3) move to x:326 y:178 for better distance ^
01:45:886 (4) like for 00:34:091
01:47:481 (1) end slider move left for better distance
02:11:014 (3) move slightly left - ^

[Insane]
00:13:550 (2,4) - 00:15:146 (2,4) maybe make them identical in range? - fixed

EDIT: Fixed the DS in the calm part on normal

MaridiuS

879 posts

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MaridiuS 2017-07-18T12:05:36+00:00

d mod

[Insane]
Firstly to point out, I don't like dark gray combo color, its annoying on 100% dim
And I won't be commenting that much on spacing emphasis since its an insane, but, I'll try to find some aesthetic and rhythm points. What i think is that patterns aren't really connecting, they're sometimes going linear, while sometimes filling a lot of the same portion of screen. That kind of makes me feel empty.
00:02:981 (6) - placing it here http://i.imgur.com/4z0Vtld.jpg should look better, you will fill up more of the screen in one side, meaning patterns are more connected.
00:04:875 (5,6,1,2) - it should be a good idea to make this as a square. That way 00:04:875 (5,2) - these two will have a visual relation, like other notes.
00:08:166 (7,1) - no real reason to have such diffrent sounds in same shape and angle. + I suggset doing something like this to fill up more of where you were placing notes: http://i.imgur.com/xhdmX4G.jpg
00:16:741 (2) - this is a slider but these two are not 00:13:550 (2,2) -
00:20:231 (4,5,6,7) - http://i.imgur.com/0WQfGUc.jpg this is kinda my idea of this pattern, in its current state, i don't see the 2stack and the circle connecting in a way with slider, ofc rearrange pattern after this.
00:26:513 (2,3) - its kinda problematic, since (3) here is a 3/4 slider, here it is a slider end 00:28:208 - , that's really problematic structuring, and way too big of a difference.
00:27:012 (4) - overmap
00:32:895 - here you pout a slider end on a rather strong snare.
00:27:311 (6,1,2) - for example, look how 2 is going far away from the slider here, but 00:29:305 (1,2) - here (2) is close to the slider, leading to inconsistent patterning style. Personally I'd always go like in the latter case, but that's personally it's your choice.
00:34:989 (5,6) - can you make (6) bend somehow else http://i.imgur.com/FqonurU.jpg like this for example?
00:46:057 (4,5) - doin somethin like this should look better http://i.imgur.com/kg3WbSG.jpg
00:47:653 (4,5) - if you rotate this like http://i.imgur.com/r9oXWpS.jpg, then (5) will have visual relation to the previous slider.
00:52:838 (6,1) - make them have the same shape please, leaves of a more harmonic feeling.
00:55:331 (3) - adding an anchor on the second part to make the slider symmetrical would be the way to go, this slider is too short to do unusual shapes.
00:57:225 (3) - ctrl+J and adjust imo, this angle makes me mildly uncomfortable
01:00:117 (3,4,5) - you were not using this kind of placement after 1/4 in previous kiai, it was more like this 00:34:590 (4,5,6) - on 2stacks. And it feels weird doing complete stack right after having spacing after 1/4 00:59:818 (2,3) -
01:03:009 (2,3,4) - ^

The rest is kinda the song repeated, therefore repeated patterns, so if you agree with me points on some degree, recheck your later parts on similar points, good luck. If you have questions ask me ingame.

AnimeStyle

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Topic Starter

AnimeStyle 2017-07-18T19:28:06+00:00

MaridiuS wrote:
d mod

[Insane]
Firstly to point out, I don't like dark gray combo color, its annoying on 100% dim - they were already changed to consider dimmed users - at least after the mapping rules - but I changed it anyway
And I won't be commenting that much on spacing emphasis since its an insane, but, I'll try to find some aesthetic and rhythm points. What i think is that patterns aren't really connecting, they're sometimes going linear, while sometimes filling a lot of the same portion of screen. That kind of makes me feel empty.
00:02:981 (6) - placing it here http://i.imgur.com/4z0Vtld.jpg should look better, you will fill up more of the screen in one side, meaning patterns are more connected. - fixed
00:04:875 (5,6,1,2) - it should be a good idea to make this as a square. That way 00:04:875 (5,2) - these two will have a visual relation, like other notes. - being in a straight line is enough imo
00:08:166 (7,1) - no real reason to have such diffrent sounds in same shape and angle. + I suggset doing something like this to fill up more of where you were placing notes: http://i.imgur.com/xhdmX4G.jpg - fixed
00:16:741 (2) - this is a slider but these two are not 00:13:550 (2,2) - doesn't matter as long as the rythm stays the same
00:20:231 (4,5,6,7) - http://i.imgur.com/0WQfGUc.jpg this is kinda my idea of this pattern, in its current state, i don't see the 2stack and the circle connecting in a way with slider, ofc rearrange pattern after this. - Flow of (3) is enough imo
00:26:513 (2,3) - its kinda problematic, since (3) here is a 3/4 slider, here it is a slider end 00:28:208 - , that's really problematic structuring, and way too big of a difference. - same rhythm mappingwise so it doesn't matter
00:27:012 (4) - overmap - sounds hollow without bc she starts singing at 00:27:058
00:32:895 - here you pout a slider end on a rather strong snare. - fixed
00:27:311 (6,1,2) - for example, look how 2 is going far away from the slider here, but 00:29:305 (1,2) - here (2) is close to the slider, leading to inconsistent patterning style. Personally I'd always go like in the latter case, but that's personally it's your choice. - I like it how it is
00:34:989 (5,6) - can you make (6) bend somehow else http://i.imgur.com/FqonurU.jpg like this for example? - why?
00:46:057 (4,5) - doin somethin like this should look better http://i.imgur.com/kg3WbSG.jpg - fixed
00:47:653 (4,5) - if you rotate this like http://i.imgur.com/r9oXWpS.jpg, then (5) will have visual relation to the previous slider. - destroys next pattern and it's already stacked with 00:46:057 (4)
00:52:838 (6,1) - make them have the same shape please, leaves of a more harmonic feeling. - fixed
00:55:331 (3) - adding an anchor on the second part to make the slider symmetrical would be the way to go, this slider is too short to do unusual shapes. - fixed
00:57:225 (3) - ctrl+J and adjust imo, this angle makes me mildly uncomfortable - better flow into (3)
01:00:117 (3,4,5) - you were not using this kind of placement after 1/4 in previous kiai, it was more like this 00:34:590 (4,5,6) - on 2stacks. And it feels weird doing complete stack right after having spacing after 1/4 00:59:818 (2,3) - someone who can play insane can handle that
01:03:009 (2,3,4) - ^ - ^

The rest is kinda the song repeated, therefore repeated patterns, so if you agree with me points on some degree, recheck your later parts on similar points, good luck. If you have questions ask me ingame. - it isn't, I only copied two parts, but I applied changes to those as well

Affirmation

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Affirmation 2017-07-19T06:56:00+00:00

Q

[Insane]
00:04:775 - for simplyfy rhythm, adding a beat should be better.
00:18:536 - add a beat as you did others.
01:08:792 (6,1) - weird overlap?
01:44:689 (3,4) - stack
01:57:253 (2,3,4) - this pattern looks messy.

GL

Kurai

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Kurai 2017-07-19T17:15:26+00:00

[General]
- The grey combo colour blends with the girl's hair a bit too much, especially the approach circle, it's barely visible and barely noticeable when stacked under a pink object:

SPOILER

- I believe the source "Sous les jupes des filles" should go in the tags since the nightcored version of this song is not directly from the movie but just a remix of the original song.

[Insane]

00:14:946 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3) - I don't like how this pattern is packed at the same place. Try aerating it more. For example, don't put those not so close from one another: 00:15:744 (4,5,1) -
00:24:519 (1) - I would revert this slider (ctrl+G) as it provides a better flow in my opinion.

[oko's Hard]

I really dislike the way you are introducing jumps in this difficulty. They are way above 1.5x (1.50x SV) whereas Insane almost never goes beyond 1.5x (1.40 SV). Moreover you do not use them consistently throughout the difficulty as they seem to be placed at random without much consideration to the music. I believe those jumps are too much for a Hard difficulty. Also, this makes the difficulty gap between Normal and Hard unacceptable from the perspective of the RC.

Here are some examples of what I am talking about (I did not list them all):
1. 00:20:131 (2,3) -
2. 00:23:721 (3) -
3. 00:27:510 (6,1) -
4. 00:58:023 (1,2,3) -
5. 01:57:054 (1,2) -
6. 01:58:649 (1) -
7. 02:00:244 (1) -
01:24:946 (3) - Stack the end properly on the white tick please.
01:28:137 (4) - Can't you make a better-looking slider here? A bit too stuffy compared to the 3 previous long sliders.
02:05:529 - I find it extremely weird to ignore this beat here. Even if you wanted to focus on whatever instrument this is.

[Normal]

00:26:114 (1) - This anti-jump might be a little bit too confusing for the easiest diffiulty of the mapset. Beginners will play this difficulty and having this not too close from the previous slider is not a good idea as they are going to hit too early instead of waiting the 3 beats separating the two objects.

Okoayu

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Okoayu 2017-07-19T17:27:01+00:00

AnimeStyle

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Topic Starter

AnimeStyle 2017-07-19T17:27:38+00:00

Neoskylove wrote:
Q

[Insane]
00:04:775 - for simplyfy rhythm, adding a beat should be better. - doesn't fit with rhythm I want to use
00:18:536 - add a beat as you did others. - Takes away from the accentuation
01:08:792 (6,1) - weird overlap? - made it cleaner
01:44:689 (3,4) - stack - it is
01:57:253 (2,3,4) - this pattern looks messy. - nah I like it

GL

AnimeStyle

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Topic Starter

AnimeStyle 2017-07-19T18:11:17+00:00

Kurai wrote:
[General]
- The grey combo colour blends with the girl's hair a bit too much, especially the approach circle, it's barely visible and barely noticeable when stacked under a pink object:
SPOILER
[/color]
- fixed

- I believe the source "Sous les jupes des filles" should go in the tags since the nightcored version of this song is not directly from the movie but just a remix of the original song. - fixed

[Insane]
00:14:946 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3) - I don't like how this pattern is packed at the same place. Try aerating it more. For example, don't put those not so close from one another: 00:15:744 (4,5,1) - fixed
00:24:519 (1) - I would revert this slider (ctrl+G) as it provides a better flow in my opinion. - sorry but there isn't a single jump in this difficulty and this would create one qwq
[Normal]
00:26:114 (1) - This anti-jump might be a little bit too confusing for the easiest diffiulty of the mapset. Beginners will play this difficulty and having this not too close from the previous slider is not a good idea as they are going to hit too early instead of waiting the 3 beats separating the two objects. - fixed

Ohwow

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Ohwow 2017-07-19T21:59:43+00:00

wrong map

Last edited by Ohwow 2017-07-19T23:36:14+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

AnimeStyle

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AnimeStyle 2017-07-19T23:26:11+00:00

I think you posted in the wrong Maphood.

Next Time post it here: t/608908

(why did I bother to search it out? I don't know)

Ohwow

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Ohwow 2017-07-19T23:35:09+00:00

AnimeStyle wrote:
I think you posted in the wrong Maphood.

Next Time post it here: t/608908

(why did I bother to search it out? I don't know)

shit my bad

Ohwow

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Ohwow 2017-07-19T23:35:47+00:00

~~Doing mod for you next lol~~

edit:

[Normal]
02:01:840 (3) - Mmm this slider doesn't look too good. You should try to make it symmetrical. I see you're trying to do a lot of things with this slider (blanketing, mirroring, stacking on to 02:00:244 (1) - ) but it results in this weird looking slider that doesn't really look good imo.

[oko's Hard]
00:27:510 (6,1) - might be too big of a spacing for a hard diff (and compared to the rest of the spacing throughout the whole song.)
00:42:268 (1,2,3) - I'd recommend just using a 3/4 repeat slider cause this might be tricky to read for players.
00:47:553 (3) - Hmm dunno why this is a 1/4 slider when there's no sound on the blue tick (maybe there's a tiinnny little sound there but... xD)
00:48:849 - missing this loud sound here at the white tick.
[Insane]
00:04:875 (5) - Make it a double instead of 1/4 slider. It's really weird to see a 1/4 slider start on a blue tick and ending on a white tick. The white tick imo is just as strong (if not stronger) as the blue tick, so it would make more sense to make it a double. It also makes it more fun to play.

00:15:345 (3) - in this case the blue tick is louder than the white tick, so it should be clickable as well.

00:16:043 (5) - again, not a big fan of how you're using the 1/4 sliders. I'd suggest you to just make the blue tick and the white tick clickable. Maybe a circle on the blue tick and a 1/2 slider on the white tick to follow the vocal. or a double then a circle would work as well.

the 1/4 slider thing applies to all instances.

01:12:980 (4,5) - not good flow

01:44:689 (3,4) - just stack, idk why this is the only one like this. possible mis-stack?

01:50:074 (5,6,7,8,9,10) - you should make a different rhythem to actually emphasize the sounds that are there. i.e. 01:50:174 (6,7) - claps & 01:50:473 (9) - clap and a vocal. Putting a stream there just doesn't follow the music that well. imo, 01:50:074 (5) - follows the music better.

Also thing to note, you aren't using spacing to emphasize strong beats. Making everything distance snapped makes it really uninteresting to play. Needs more spacing variation. It's insane diff, not easy or normal. Even the Hard diff has some spacing emphasis

gl

AnimeStyle

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AnimeStyle 2017-07-21T01:22:05+00:00

Ohwow wrote:
~~Doing mod for you next lol~~

edit:

[Normal]
02:01:840 (3) - Mmm this slider doesn't look too good. You should try to make it symmetrical. I see you're trying to do a lot of things with this slider (blanketing, mirroring, stacking on to 02:00:244 (1) - ) but it results in this weird looking slider that doesn't really look good imo. - it's as good as it can get and I like it

[Insane]
00:04:875 (5) - Make it a double instead of 1/4 slider. It's really weird to see a 1/4 slider start on a blue tick and ending on a white tick. The white tick imo is just as strong (if not stronger) as the blue tick, so it would make more sense to make it a double. It also makes it more fun to play.

00:15:345 (3) - in this case the blue tick is louder than the white tick, so it should be clickable as well.

00:16:043 (5) - again, not a big fan of how you're using the 1/4 sliders. I'd suggest you to just make the blue tick and the white tick clickable. Maybe a circle on the blue tick and a 1/2 slider on the white tick to follow the vocal. or a double then a circle would work as well.

the 1/4 slider thing applies to all instances. - Won't change something that I like

01:12:980 (4,5) - not good flow - better flow for the following pattern

01:44:689 (3,4) - just stack, idk why this is the only one like this. possible mis-stack? - fixed

01:50:074 (5,6,7,8,9,10) - you should make a different rhythem to actually emphasize the sounds that are there. i.e. 01:50:174 (6,7) - claps & 01:50:473 (9) - clap and a vocal. Putting a stream there just doesn't follow the music that well. imo, 01:50:074 (5) - follows the music better. - well and I think it does.

Also thing to note, you aren't using spacing to emphasize strong beats. Making everything distance snapped makes it really uninteresting to play. Needs more spacing variation. It's insane diff, not easy or normal. Even the Hard diff has some spacing emphasis - I dislike using jumps and no one can force me to

gl

riffy

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riffy 2017-08-02T19:48:12+00:00

not sure if you still need, but here we go. who's oko, btw?

General

The following hitsounds appear to be unused confirm whether it is actually so and remove them.
normal-sliderwhistle.wav
normal-sliderwhistle2.wav
Is there a reason for your image to be a .png file? Converting it to jp could potentially save us extra ~300kb of space.
Can we talk about metadata stuff? Where did you get it from? I'd probably refer to the person who remixed this. Here
So, we'd get something like:
Artist: Imany (that's fairly obvious)
Title: Don't be so shy (Filatov & Karas Remix) (Nightcore Mix) (since we add the (Nightcore Mix) thingy to the original title)

Normal

00:38:080 (4,1) - since this part is meant as a bit of a gap to let players relax I doubt that spacing should be increased here. I'd do the opposite and use lower spacing value for this gap.
01:17:168 (1) - I can't quite agree with the rhythm/hitsounding choice here. If you feel like the clap thing on 01:17:567 - deserves a specific hitsound, than it defenitely deserves an individual object or at least a slider-reverse as well. Beginners usually associate hitsounds with some kind of a visible object. Either releasing a slider or clicking a circle/slider. In this case, mapping those beats to make them clickable or not hitsounding them would be a better thing, I believe.

I am quite concerned about the density of 1/2 objects n the final part of the song. This is the only difficulty with a difficulty increase near the end and there is no objective reason to do so. I would rather remove a few circles to tone down density and make the difficulty more consistent as well as more beginner friendly.

oko's Hard

The only thing I did not quite like about the difficulty is 00:01:186 (3) - 00:04:377 (4) - and similar 2/1 sliders. I feel like they'd work a lot better as 3/2 sliders and keep the rhythm density more consistent as well.

I'd say that the difficulty works wit hthe edgy spread quite well.

Insane

Tthe thing about the song that I like a lot is the 3/4 beats, I expected you to highlight them a lot more. Basically, I would use actual circles instead of sliders in patterns like 00:18:337 (7) - 00:43:863 (2) - and such.I guess I just feel like clicking stuff a bit more often, though this is subjective.

Then again, I generally don't really like the way the main bass line is ignored in triplets like 01:08:094 (3) - I guess I just see the song differently.

I know it didn't help much, but I feel like the map as it is is more or less fine, except that the Normal definitely feels too heavy for the easiest difficulty. I'll leave the rest up to Kurai since he has already starred it.

Okoayu

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Okoayu 2017-08-02T21:31:00+00:00

CucumberCuc wrote:
Hi

[oko's Hard]
00:19:533 (5) move down for better flow rearranged pattern
00:20:929 (1) move slightly to the right to start the slider at 00:21:727 looked at him? i have no idea what this wants me to do, i tried the thing you suggested but it just looks kind of odd and plays weird
00:45:658 (2,3,4) if you look at the ticks, I think you should do the opposite to the slider and the circle was nearer, and the circles further apart i'm treating the short slider as a circle in this pattern because that's how it plays - this is approximately equidistant
00:58:023 (1,2) I think that they can make some more curved for better flow angled 2 differently
01:26:541 put circle for voice? but this part ignores vocals
02:21:184 (1,2) like for 00:58:023 i did something but i dont think it's according to anything that you meant l ol

Kurai wrote:
[General]
- The grey combo colour blends with the girl's hair a bit too much, especially the approach circle, it's barely visible and barely noticeable when stacked under a pink object:
SPOILER

i had russian combocolors but then someone overwrote them
- I believe the source "Sous les jupes des filles" should go in the tags since the nightcored version of this song is not directly from the movie but just a remix of the original song.

[oko's Hard]
I really dislike the way you are introducing jumps in this difficulty. They are way above 1.5x (1.50x SV) whereas Insane almost never goes beyond 1.5x (1.40 SV).idk how base sv and actual percieved difficulty are related, the insane is much harder to execute rhythmically than my diff Moreover you do not use them consistently throughout the difficulty as they seem to be placed at random without much consideration to the music. i dont remember turning off my brain and just doing stuff at random I believe those jumps are too much for a Hard difficulty. Also, this makes the difficulty gap between Normal and Hard unacceptable from the perspective of the RC. true brb mapping one more thing

Here are some examples of what I am talking about (I did not list them all):

00:20:131 (2,3) - no idea what's wrong about this
00:23:721 (3) - players do not follow sliders all the way to their ends because the follow circle allows them not to, i'm using said mechanic to create dropped off patterns.
00:27:510 (6,1) - good point, i will need a way to nerf this, especially considering 00:53:037 (6,1) - and 01:52:068 (6,1,2) - can use a nerf as well, good catch
00:58:023 (1,2,3) - same dropoff mechanic in play
01:57:054 (1,2) - used to create a distinct difference to the previously used patterns for this sort of thingbecause this is the only part where you ahve vocals and this sort of double crash pattern - it being spaced further is the way to make it abundantly clear that this pattern is musically different
01:58:649 (1) - nerfed 2 circles before this one, good catch
02:00:244 (1) - idk if i will nerf this currently this doesnt really feel out of place at all
i will rework a few places accordingly if i spot anything similar to what i've agreed to!

01:24:946 (3) - Stack the end properly on the white tick please. that's not where the stretched sound ends?? if i have it like this it sounds off
01:28:137 (4) - Can't you make a better-looking slider here? A bit too stuffy compared to the 3 previous long sliders. pitch wise last instrument is doing something different entirely from the previous two sliders so i will make it prettier while keeping the idea of having the different sounds be different patterns
02:05:529 - I find it extremely weird to ignore this beat here. Even if you wanted to focus on whatever instrument this is. 02:05:230 (3) - will become an 1/2 slider
[Normal]
00:26:114 (1) - This anti-jump might be a little bit too confusing for the easiest diffiulty of the mapset. Beginners will play this difficulty and having this not too close from the previous slider is not a good idea as they are going to hit too early instead of waiting the 3 beats separating the two objects.

thanks for giving me a bunch of ideas for things i can rework i wanted to revisit the diff anyways and do a few changes!

Ohwow wrote:
~~Doing mod for you next lol~~

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[oko's Hard]
00:27:510 (6,1) - might be too big of a spacing for a hard diff (and compared to the rest of the spacing throughout the whole song.) will nerf this already
00:42:268 (1,2,3) - I'd recommend just using a 3/4 repeat slider cause this might be tricky to read for players. this was included in my self changes and so is the 2nd pattern i havent just quite figured out what to do on it
00:47:553 (3) - Hmm dunno why this is a 1/4 slider when there's no sound on the blue tick (maybe there's a tiinnny little sound there but... xD) i liek the quiet but dumb sound on it - it forces people to listen to the song properly
00:48:849 - missing this loud sound here at the white tick. i dont know how to address this, i will just do the same as for the previous pattern here though
gl

@Bakari i dont get the point youre making
like the sliders you say are 2/1 sliders are 3/2 sliders already and u suggest to make them 3/2 sliders
so do you mean 1/1 sliders instead or wat

riffy

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riffy 2017-08-03T12:40:41+00:00

Jesus Christ, yes, I meant 1/1 sliders, totally messed that up.

AnimeStyle

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AnimeStyle 2017-08-03T22:37:50+00:00

Bakari wrote:
not sure if you still need, but here we go. who's oko, btw?

General
The following hitsounds appear to be unused confirm whether it is actually so and remove them. - they are both used in oko's diff
normal-sliderwhistle.wav
normal-sliderwhistle2.wav
Is there a reason for your image to be a .png file? Converting it to jp could potentially save us extra ~300kb of space. - fixed
Can we talk about metadata stuff? Where did you get it from? I'd probably refer to the person who remixed this. Here
So, we'd get something like:
Artist: Imany (that's fairly obvious)
Title: Don't be so shy (Filatov & Karas Remix) (Nightcore Mix) (since we add the (Nightcore Mix) thingy to the original title)
fixed

Normal
00:38:080 (4,1) - since this part is meant as a bit of a gap to let players relax I doubt that spacing should be increased here. I'd do the opposite and use lower spacing value for this gap. - fixed
01:17:168 (1) - I can't quite agree with the rhythm/hitsounding choice here. If you feel like the clap thing on 01:17:567 - deserves a specific hitsound, than it defenitely deserves an individual object or at least a slider-reverse as well. Beginners usually associate hitsounds with some kind of a visible object. Either releasing a slider or clicking a circle/slider. In this case, mapping those beats to make them clickable or not hitsounding them would be a better thing, I believe. I really dislike having HS missing just because I use a slider - it sounds way to empty, also the emphasis is on the whistle hitsound, and they are all clickable.

I am quite concerned about the density of 1/2 objects n the final part of the song. This is the only difficulty with a difficulty increase near the end and there is no objective reason to do so. I would rather remove a few circles to tone down density and make the difficulty more consistent as well as more beginner friendly. -I removed two circles at the most crowded parts - I removed the two most problamatic circles.
Insane
Tthe thing about the song that I like a lot is the 3/4 beats, I expected you to highlight them a lot more. Basically, I would use actual circles instead of sliders in patterns like 00:18:337 (7) - 00:43:863 (2) - and such.I guess I just feel like clicking stuff a bit more often, though this is subjective.

Then again, I generally don't really like the way the main bass line is ignored in triplets like 01:08:094 (3) - I guess I just see the song differently. - probably, because I'm really satisfied on how it turned out after all xD
I know it didn't help much, but I feel like the map as it is is more or less fine, except that the Normal definitely feels too heavy for the easiest difficulty. I'll leave the rest up to Kurai since he has already starred it. - don't worry, I appreciate that you took time out of your day for me, I mean you didn't had to ^^

Okoayu

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Okoayu 2017-08-05T21:07:38+00:00

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some hitsounds may be broken and for some reason meta is too

AnimeStyle

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Joined December 2012

Topic Starter

AnimeStyle 2017-08-05T21:47:44+00:00

I'll fix it don't worry xD

Okoayu

Nomination Assessment Team / Elite Nominator

4,959 posts

Joined May 2012

Okoayu 2017-08-05T22:29:16+00:00

im at like 30% of the other diff just fyi

Last edited by Okoayu 2017-08-08T21:25:13+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Okoayu

Nomination Assessment Team / Elite Nominator

4,959 posts

Joined May 2012

Okoayu 2017-08-12T20:31:47+00:00

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AnimeStyle

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AnimeStyle 2017-08-12T23:00:06+00:00

Okorin wrote:

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Tags:2015 Nadia Mladjao Sherika Sherard Eurodance The Wrong Kind of War French Women Okorin Okoratu Sous les jupes des filles
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>I'm so wet right now.

[-obee58-]

275 posts

Joined November 2011

[-obee58-] 2017-08-17T13:55:07+00:00

okay random mod asked for over irc
a bit of the aesthetic mods are based on my style so it's probably fine normally
serious stuff is marked in BF0000
[Easy]
um so far there's literally nothing really wrong here so have some really dumb lines
00:04:576 (2) - move this 1px right + 2px down
00:17:339 (2,3) - rotate -1 degrees to fit 00:19:733 (1)
00:23:721 (2,3) - change to something like this maybe? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8866741 it may screw with distance snap though
00:34:091 (3) - move 2px down
00:43:664 (5) - rotate -40 degrees
00:46:855 (2,3,4,5,6) - make this a bit more circular flowy and change 00:49:248 (5,6) - to be more upwards/sideways pointed in the process
01:09:191 (3) - place RED DOT on SLIDE RTICK
01:12:382 (2) - ^
01:10:786 (1) - not important but why do you use 3 red points on these? they work fine without the one in the middle
01:53:863 (1) - and speaking of those sliders, some of them feel way too squished but that's my crappy opinion style
rest of map is good aside from some weird blankets which idk how to fix and kinda work anyways

[okorin's Hard*]
*actually a light insane/hyper probably
00:01:983 (4,1,2) - i don't like this 4 stacked on 1,2, you could move the 1,2 to the right a bit (ex. https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8866840)
00:10:758 (4) - move like 1px left to fit diamond triangle thing
00:12:154 (3,4,5,6) - is it possible to stack the triple on the head of 00:10:758 (4) ?
00:17:738 (4) - copy 00:18:137 (1) after it and rotate 120, replace
00:50:245 (2,1) - really stupid stuff here on my end, but can u blanket 1 with 2? and then change snap from 1 to rest of section to be higher since u did that last kiai
01:02:410 (4) - aaaaa its UGLY, please use a red point in the middle or something
01:42:695 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - possibly a bit uncomfortable but idk
ok

[okorin's Intadvancard]
modding speedrun here, i haven't tried mapping this difficulty yet
also lots of ugly 4 point sliders
00:06:471 (6,7,8,1) - this will trip up players and probably fits better in the not-actually-a-hard diff
00:08:365 (4,5) - blanket/slider is ew but no idea how to fix that
00:25:450 (3) - now that i think about it this will also probably be hit off-time by most players, i suggest NC to signal a bit better like you did at 00:50:976 (1)
00:31:100 (4) - there's not even a proper curve here ffs
00:55:231 (2,3) - slider head is going to die of asphyxiation if u dont fix its curve and properly blanket 00:56:627 (4)
01:03:208 (5) - why did u even bother putting 4 points in this
01:28:137 (3) - okay i mean i guess it looks nicer this way but this slider is boring compared to the others, you could do a (((proper))) 4 point slider curve thingy and it would be really nice
01:41:498 (2) - uhh wtf? i guess it's fine but weird
01:54:262 (2,3) - i know it would mess up and make a massive jump to 01:55:658 (4) but that's 2.04x ds between these two and it would fit better if you ctrl-g 3
02:01:840 (1) - the end curve of this slider needs to be rounded off a bit more - currently if u look at the hole in the middle its like squished
02:07:224 (3) - see why can't u make the s/z sliders look like this
02:15:002 (3) - make a triangle
02:19:788 (2,3) - blanket off 2~3px to the left plz

okay that was a long and very stupid mod but you're welcome anyways
give kD

AnimeStyle

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AnimeStyle 2017-08-17T14:46:13+00:00

[-obee58-] wrote:
okay random mod asked for over irc
a bit of the aesthetic mods are based on my style so it's probably fine normally
serious stuff is marked in BF0000
[Easy]
um so far there's literally nothing really wrong here so have some really dumb lines
00:04:576 (2) - move this 1px right + 2px down - can't move it more to the right - but fixed what you wanted me to fix
00:17:339 (2,3) - rotate -1 degrees to fit 00:19:733 (1) - already identical
00:23:721 (2,3) - change to something like this maybe? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8866741 it may screw with distance snap though - 00:21:328 (2,2) - don't want to ruin their co-existence
00:34:091 (3) - move 2px down - already fine imo
00:43:664 (5) - rotate -40 degrees - 00:43:664 (5,1) - would kill flow and pattern
00:46:855 (2,3,4,5,6) - make this a bit more circular flowy and change 00:49:248 (5,6) - to be more upwards/sideways pointed in the process - 00:45:259 (1,5) - played around with the pattern - I think it's better now
01:09:191 (3) - place RED DOT on SLIDE RTICK - fixed
01:12:382 (2) - ^ - fixed
01:10:786 (1) - not important but why do you use 3 red points on these? they work fine without the one in the middle - without it the slider becomes 1/16 shorter
01:53:863 (1) - and speaking of those sliders, some of them feel way too squished but that's my crappy opinion style
rest of map is good aside from some weird blankets which idk how to fix and kinda work anyways - same slider as before, I like them but everyone has his or her own opinion on those~

okay that was a long and very stupid mod but you're welcome anyways
give kD - why shouldn't I xD

Chanyah

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Chanyah 2017-08-17T22:25:11+00:00

I only modding the Hard difficulty since there isn't much for me to mod at any other diff..

00:12:753 - Hey I notice that this feels empty here...It is fine like it is but the intermediate difficulty have atleast a slider around this part -

00:47:553 (3) - I don't really hear a sound here and if it is not that noticeable (might just be my hearing)

- Ugh... Sorry for really short mod and no need to kd if u don't have to

AnimeStyle

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AnimeStyle 2017-08-17T22:39:57+00:00

DJ Lucky wrote:
I only modding the Hard difficulty since there isn't much for me to mod at any other diff..

00:12:753 - Hey I notice that this feels empty here...It is fine like it is but the intermediate difficulty have atleast a slider around this part -

00:47:553 (3) - I don't really hear a sound here and if it is not that noticeable (might just be my hearing)

- Ugh... Sorry for really short mod and no need to kd if u don't have to

Looked at your other mods and since you're mods are generally decent - I believe you c: so you get a Kudos for trying

CucumberCuc

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CucumberCuc 2017-08-19T18:39:14+00:00

Hi again

[Easy]
check AiMod
00:28:507 (4) move right for better distance?
01:09:191 (3,1,2) not sure what such a flow/blanket is comfortable, can slightly change the slider 1?

[Normal]
01:47:082 (6,1) far, do are close

[oko's Intermedidate]
00:02:183 (4,5) this sliders have the same distance on ticks like for 5,6; maybe do far?
00:11:755 (6,7,8) do the same distance?
00:13:351 I think you can be a little change here the arrangement of objects and you can do this:

if the last set circle not like it, then you can dismiss it
00:38:878 ^
00:39:875 (5) move right-up for distance like on 00:41:271 (7,8) ?
00:49:248 (3,4) - 00:23:721 (3,4) - 01:03:607 (6,7) different range
01:13:977 (1,2,3) do the same distance?
01:17:168 (1,2,1,2,1,2) fix stacks?
01:48:678 (3,4) - 01:57:851 (3,4) - 02:00:244 (1,2,3,4) different range
02:12:210 you have sound, why miss?

[oko's Hard]
00:29:704 (2,3,4,5) - 00:36:086 (2,3,4,5) - 01:01:613 slightly different range
00:26:513 (2,4) - 00:32:895 (2,4) ^
00:54:832 (1,2) fix stack?

yaspo

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yaspo 2017-08-20T21:47:40+00:00

[Insane]

These hitsounds are cool yo

I think this difficulty's main issue is in how it deals with distance snap. When you use distance snap for an entire map, you effectively remove the option of reflecting intensity through spacing. In that sense it would be best to express differences in intensity through rhythm and movement instead. Sadly, I feel like differences in those aspects are also rather lacking, aside from the streams in the kiai sections and the slow section, intensity seems to be pretty much equal throughout the map. That leads to it being rather bland, in my opinion.
Out of that follows another issue, your use of variation. While good variation can stop a map from being boring, the variations you use sometimes seem random and even unfitting, though that might just be me. As a result, I personally feel like those variations don't help the map, but are a bit of a detriment instead.
Variation is not justification.

00:04:377 - This one of the strongest sounds in the section, yet it's mapped to a sliderend. This feels a bit weak in comparison to triplets like 00:00:986 (3,4,5) - .
I suggest trying an alternative rhythm that has a click on this sound. Maybe something like what you did here 00:10:359 (2,3,4) - .

00:06:371 (5,6,7,8,9,1) - This pattern seems a bit strange to me. You're drawing a lot of attention right when there is a lack of main instruments, which seems backwards to me. While it's nice that you're representing something unique in a unique way, the spacing makes it a bit unfitting.
You could try a pattern that isn't as spaced, maybe something like this http://i.imgur.com/lhucaoQ.png .

00:07:966 (6) - It's a bit weird to have a click here, in my opinion. There aren't any prominent sounds here, and it is surrounded by more interesting sounds.
So, I suggest removing this circle and using a different rhythm. You could try making this 00:07:567 (5) - a single repeat, or replace it by a circle + 1/2 slider.

00:08:963 (2,3,4) - Just like the triples I mentioned before, this one stands out for no real reason.
I suggest stacking this triple like you did before 00:02:582 (3,4,5) - .

00:18:337 (7) - I'm personally not very fond of this repeat, as it skips 00:18:536 - this sound, yet ends on 00:18:935 - the same sound.
As a result, it misrepresents the music. I suggest trying to find a more suitable rhythm. This goes for all other repeats like this one.

00:22:325 (4,5) - you could try changing this into a 1/2 slider to represent the held sound in the background, just like you did here 00:47:752 (5) - .

00:28:807 - Skipping this sound (here and in other places) feels pretty odd, as they're so prominent. You could try placing a circle here, or use a different rhythm that includes them. Like you did here 00:35:089 (6) - , for example. Doing this everywhere would also help raise the intensity of the kiai sections.

00:30:302 (5,6,7,8,9) - While this stream has clicks on all sounds in the music, it doesn't really take into account that those 5 sounds are made up by 3 different instruments. As a result, it doesn't really follow anything.
I suggest trying some more rhythmic options that express the different instruments better. Something like this could work http://i.imgur.com/ndccocv.png
Alternatively, you could try using a different streamshape that reflects the music through movement. Something like this, for example http://i.imgur.com/CuTrtbh.png

00:41:769 (6) - There is no sound on the sliderend of this slider, while pretty much every other slider in the map has a sound on its end.
It seems a bit overmapped in that sense, It might be better if this was just a single click instead.

00:42:866 (3,4,5,1) - This vocal arrange occurs 4 times in the song. 3 out of those 4 times you mapped it like 00:17:339 (4,5,6) - . Yet, here you decide to do something different for no real reason.
I personally would change this to be the same rhythm as 00:17:339 (4,5,6) - , so it's more consistent.

00:46:057 (4) - Just like before, this slider doesn't end on any sound.
I suggest you just put a click here instead, as the music doesn't have any sounds during the sliderbody.

00:57:624 (4,1) - This is extremely undermapped in comparison to the same sounds in the first kiai 00:32:097 (5,6,1,2) - .
Going from 4 circles to 2 sliders is a big difference in intensity, so I would suggest changing this to be 4 circles as well.

01:10:587 (6,1) - This is the first time you map a 1/4 slider with a 1/4 gap after it, which is pretty late into the map.
While I can understand that there is something new going on in the background, it's a bit harsh to introduce this kind of difficulty element as late into the map. This only becomes more true as the next time this kind of rhythm occurs is a full minute later 02:19:788 (3,4) - .
I suggest you introduce these rhythms earlier and more often in the map, or at least try adjusting this rhythm to not be a 1/4 slider with a 1/4 gap after.

01:37:909 - 01:49:874 - So, this section. I'm not going to lie here, I am honestly a bit triggered.
You simply copy pasted the first kiai and flipped it horizontally and vertically. While I'm not necessarely against copy pasting, there are some key issues here.

You're copying a section that is a kiai into a section that isn't a kiai. As a result, they are the exact same in terms of intensity, while one is obviously more intense than the other. This is one of the major reason why your map is lacking in contrast when it comes to intensity.
You're copying a section mapped to a similar part of music, but it's far from the same. The main differences are the lack of percussion sounds like these 01:40:601 - and the background beat being much less active in this section.
As a result, a lot of the rhythms are simply unfitting. Streams like this 01:42:097 (5,6,7,8,9) - don't belong here rhythmically in the context of this map.
You're copying a section that is 13 seconds long. Considdering the problems above, this seems more like a sign of lazyness rather than it being a reasoned choice.
You're copying a section, even though this goes directly against prior mod replies, where you say you dislike mapping the same patterns.

I apologise if this comes over as rude or agressive, but this makes no sense. The only real fix here is to remap it, or at least making the necessary adjustments for it to actually fit the song and map.

01:50:373 (8,10) - These aren't mapped to any sound at all, it might be more fitting to simply remove these circles.

02:03:435 - 02:15:401 - and you do it again, copy pasted the intro and flipped in both directions. It's not as bad as before, as the sole difference with the intro is that the background beat is stronger here, though that's still a difference that should have been reflected.

02:20:387 (5,6,7) - As said before, with how infrequently you use 1/4 gaps after a 1/4 slider, and with how you late you introduce those rhythms, it's probably a good idea to express the music with a different rhythm here.

This song has a lot of potential to have a cool map, so good luck!

AnimeStyle

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AnimeStyle 2017-08-21T05:26:45+00:00

I'm in the hospital rn so I can't respond properly to mods atm.
Yaspo, it's completly understandable that you get triggered by someone copying and flipping stuff around, but I only did this because it takes me way too long to do one difficulty and let alone three. Imo this doesn't really hurt my map quality since I don't really map horizontically or vertically but that's something that depends on the mapper. This mapset is in the work since febuary so please do me a favor and don't call me lazy, especially for something that I don't have to do - I mean this isn't my job or anything.
Is it lazy to use my own freetime to create something for others to enjoy? I don't think so.

AnimeStyle

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AnimeStyle 2017-08-29T11:22:17+00:00

CucumberCuc wrote:
Hi again

[Easy]
check AiMod
00:28:507 (4) move right for better distance? - fixed but moved (1) instead
01:09:191 (3,1,2) not sure what such a flow/blanket is comfortable, can slightly change the slider 1? - 01:53:863 (1) - fixed this one as well

[Normal]
01:47:082 (6,1) far, do are close - 00:35:288 - fixed that one as well

Thanks again <3

AnimeStyle

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AnimeStyle 2017-08-29T12:43:34+00:00

yaspo wrote:
[Insane]

These hitsounds are cool yo

I think this difficulty's main issue is in how it deals with distance snap. When you use distance snap for an entire map, you effectively remove the option of reflecting intensity through spacing. In that sense it would be best to express differences in intensity through rhythm and movement instead. Sadly, I feel like differences in those aspects are also rather lacking, aside from the streams in the kiai sections and the slow section, intensity seems to be pretty much equal throughout the map. That leads to it being rather bland, in my opinion. - I don't have to DS all the time nor did I want to use it for this song since it didn't feel right imo. Jumps are pretty much just used at the moment to make diffis harder, at least there some people who use them to match the music.
Out of that follows another issue, your use of variation. While good variation can stop a map from being boring, the variations you use sometimes seem random and even unfitting, though that might just be me. As a result, I personally feel like those variations don't help the map, but are a bit of a detriment instead.
Variation is not justification. - it's my decision as an artist on how to map - if I dislike using the same pattern all the time - well I don't have to

00:04:377 - This one of the strongest sounds in the section, yet it's mapped to a sliderend. This feels a bit weak in comparison to triplets like 00:00:986 (3,4,5) - .
I suggest trying an alternative rhythm that has a click on this sound. Maybe something like what you did here 00:10:359 (2,3,4) - . - My hitsounds are not mapped to this musical line

00:06:371 (5,6,7,8,9,1) - This pattern seems a bit strange to me. You're drawing a lot of attention right when there is a lack of main instruments, which seems backwards to me. While it's nice that you're representing something unique in a unique way, the spacing makes it a bit unfitting.
You could try a pattern that isn't as spaced, maybe something like this http://i.imgur.com/lhucaoQ.png . - on every circle there is a sound. Use 25% speed if you can't hear it. I wouldn't like to change DS here - would be the only time and I really dislike that.

00:07:966 (6) - It's a bit weird to have a click here, in my opinion. There aren't any prominent sounds here, and it is surrounded by more interesting sounds.
So, I suggest removing this circle and using a different rhythm. You could try making this 00:07:567 (5) - a single repeat, or replace it by a circle + 1/2 slider. - Mapped objects in this map revolve around the rhythm instruments in this song. There is clearly one on this beat. As always 25% is your friend.

00:08:963 (2,3,4) - Just like the triples I mentioned before, this one stands out for no real reason.
I suggest stacking this triple like you did before 00:02:582 (3,4,5) - . - 00:08:565 (1,2,3,4,5) - they form a nice pattern altogether - I see no reason to change it.

00:18:337 (7) - I'm personally not very fond of this repeat, as it skips 00:18:536 - this sound, yet ends on 00:18:935 - the same sound.
As a result, it misrepresents the music. I suggest trying to find a more suitable rhythm. This goes for all other repeats like this one. - sliderstart, repeat and end are referring to the same sound. The sound that everything in the refrain is mapped to. You really need to understand my intentions as a mapper before you re trying to point something like this out.

00:22:325 (4,5) - you could try changing this into a 1/2 slider to represent the held sound in the background, just like you did here 00:47:752 (5) - . - vocal line is used here as mapping base, and since she accentuates it differently in both parts I adapted the map to it.

00:28:807 - Skipping this sound (here and in other places) feels pretty odd, as they're so prominent. You could try placing a circle here, or use a different rhythm that includes them. Like you did here 00:35:089 (6) - , for example. Doing this everywhere would also help raise the intensity of the kiai sections. - it felt better in the long run to not map this sound- since the objects more refer to the vocal line in the second part of the bar for the chorus, also it's extremly weak in comparison

00:30:302 (5,6,7,8,9) - While this stream has clicks on all sounds in the music, it doesn't really take into account that those 5 sounds are made up by 3 different instruments. As a result, it doesn't really follow anything.
I suggest trying some more rhythmic options that express the different instruments better. Something like this could work http://i.imgur.com/ndccocv.png
Alternatively, you could try using a different streamshape that reflects the music through movement. Something like this, for example http://i.imgur.com/CuTrtbh.png - I used HS to accentuate it, every one of those 1/8 got another kind of sound, there is no way to represent that visually, also a small stream is way more fitting than breaking it with a slider in between.

00:41:769 (6) - There is no sound on the sliderend of this slider, while pretty much every other slider in the map has a sound on its end.
It seems a bit overmapped in that sense, It might be better if this was just a single click instead. - vocals - also even if this part would be mapped over the rhythm instruments - a circle is way more impactful than a sliderend and would overmap it even more

00:42:866 (3,4,5,1) - This vocal arrange occurs 4 times in the song. 3 out of those 4 times you mapped it like 00:17:339 (4,5,6) - . Yet, here you decide to do something different for no real reason.
I personally would change this to be the same rhythm as 00:17:339 (4,5,6) - , so it's more consistent. - it's 100% the same rhythm just with using a different compostion of sliders and circles hence it's consistent.

00:46:057 (4) - Just like before, this slider doesn't end on any sound.
I suggest you just put a click here instead, as the music doesn't have any sounds during the sliderbody. - 00:46:456 - vocal starts before this timestamp - I need to end the slider or else this will sound akward. That also the reason why I did use triplets in the chorus even though they are not supported by no sounds, it's kinda funny that you didn't point out that as well xD

00:57:624 (4,1) - This is extremely undermapped in comparison to the same sounds in the first kiai 00:32:097 (5,6,1,2) - .
Going from 4 circles to 2 sliders is a big difference in intensity, so I would suggest changing this to be 4 circles as well. - it doesn't make any difference at all imo.

01:10:587 (6,1) - This is the first time you map a 1/4 slider with a 1/4 gap after it, which is pretty late into the map.
While I can understand that there is something new going on in the background, it's a bit harsh to introduce this kind of difficulty element as late into the map. This only becomes more true as the next time this kind of rhythm occurs is a full minute later 02:19:788 (3,4) - .
I suggest you introduce these rhythms earlier and more often in the map, or at least try adjusting this rhythm to not be a 1/4 slider with a 1/4 gap after. - this is the hardest diff of this mapset, it doesn't matter at all - also the song isn't even half over xD - aslo also this composition is easier to grasp then the 1/8 triplets in the beginning

01:37:909 - 01:49:874 - So, this section. I'm not going to lie here, I am honestly a bit triggered.
You simply copy pasted the first kiai and flipped it horizontally and vertically. While I'm not necessarely against copy pasting, there are some key issues here.
You're copying a section that is a kiai into a section that isn't a kiai. As a result, they are the exact same in terms of intensity, while one is obviously more intense than the other. This is one of the major reason why your map is lacking in contrast when it comes to intensity. - It doesn't matter that there isn't kiai, what matters is that it isn't backed up with the same instruments as the chorus. this change is reflected in not using the violin HS, also even if I could map faster I would do as I did just bc this part functions as a musical throwback to bridge to the final chorus - which is mapped fresh oc bc it's the grand final song wise
You're copying a section mapped to a similar part of music, but it's far from the same. The main differences are the lack of percussion sounds like these 01:40:601 - and the background beat being much less active in this section. - mapping wise everything is there as before, so even if I copy it fits perfectly
As a result, a lot of the rhythms are simply unfitting. Streams like this 01:42:097 (5,6,7,8,9) - don't belong here rhythmically in the context of this map. - no still fits
You're copying a section that is 13 seconds long. Considdering the problems above, this seems more like a sign of lazyness rather than it being a reasoned choice. - I explained why I did it already and calling my lazy is just rude when considering that I don't have to map anything. I do what I can as best as I can.
You're copying a section, even though this goes directly against prior mod replies, where you say you dislike mapping the same patterns.
I apologise if this comes over as rude or agressive, but this makes no sense. The only real fix here is to remap it, or at least making the necessary adjustments for it to actually fit the song and map. - if this would be an issue wouldn't you think that Kurai or Okorin would have told me? I mean you read past mods as you were referring to them.

01:50:373 (8,10) - These aren't mapped to any sound at all, it might be more fitting to simply remove these circles. - they are there to create a better bridge between those - also your favorite word "intensity" was considered here

02:03:435 - 02:15:401 - and you do it again, copy pasted the intro and flipped in both directions. It's not as bad as before, as the sole difference with the intro is that the background beat is stronger here, though that's still a difference that should have been reflected. - the artist repeated the intro to close out the song - I do the same to reflect that.

02:20:387 (5,6,7) - As said before, with how infrequently you use 1/4 gaps after a 1/4 slider, and with how you late you introduce those rhythms, it's probably a good idea to express the music with a different rhythm here. - 02:20:387 (5,7) - they have the same sound on start and end. This is the best way to reflect the music here.

This song has a lot of potential to have a cool map, so good luck! - thx for calling my map not cool and only modding Insane xD (Yes I'm tilted by now

Okoayu

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Okoayu 2017-09-14T19:52:33+00:00

ah wait i forgot about this gimme a day or two

AnimeStyle

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AnimeStyle 2017-09-15T12:06:12+00:00

Okorin wrote:
ah wait i forgot about this gimme a day or two

didnt want to bother you again with reminding you c: thx for noticing

Okoayu

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Okoayu 2017-10-01T09:32:12+00:00

[-obee58-] wrote:
okay random mod asked for over irc
a bit of the aesthetic mods are based on my style so it's probably fine normally
serious stuff is marked in BF0000

[okorin's Hard*]
*actually a light insane/hyper probably hyper is a term for hard in another rhythm game and light is just a weird word
00:01:983 (4,1,2) - i don't like this 4 stacked on 1,2, you could move the 1,2 to the right a bit (ex. https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8866840) i dont know what the problem with this is, i mean i made it this way because i like it
00:10:758 (4) - move like 1px left to fit diamond triangle thing sure why not
00:12:154 (3,4,5,6) - is it possible to stack the triple on the head of 00:10:758 (4) ? nah, but the things overlapped while being visible so i fixed that instead (should solve your problem)
00:17:738 (4) - copy 00:18:137 (1) after it and rotate 120, replace but why?
00:50:245 (2,1) - really stupid stuff here on my end, but can u blanket 1 with 2? and then change snap from 1 to rest of section to be higher since u did that last kiai moved this completely away i think that works better
01:02:410 (4) - aaaaa its UGLY, please use a red point in the middle or something i have a thing for odd wave sliders so uhh i dont find this ugly
01:42:695 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - possibly a bit uncomfortable but idk fixed this... i think i dont know i can't tell
ok

[okorin's Intadvancard]
modding speedrun here, i haven't tried mapping this difficulty yet
also lots of ugly 4 point sliders
00:06:471 (6,7,8,1) - this will trip up players and probably fits better in the not-actually-a-hard diff i need to introduce doubles and triples before the hard because it assumes they are second nature, so i'm opting for this because in this scenario even if you fuck them up you had a lot of time to prepare for the upcoming patterns and thus won't just easily fail for not comprehending what 1/4 is
00:08:365 (4,5) - blanket/slider is ew but no idea how to fix that i dont think this needs fixing, curving the first slider more makes it play noticably different
00:25:450 (3) - now that i think about it this will also probably be hit off-time by most players, i suggest NC to signal a bit better like you did at 00:50:976 (1) actually i have it nc'd later i think i just forgot, and i think this will be hit off time no matter the player's skill since it's just off tempo a bit
00:31:100 (4) - there's not even a proper curve here ffs yes there isnt, i like the looks of it though - the alternative would be just a straight slider in the scenter so i think this looks more interesting
00:55:231 (2,3) - slider head is going to die of asphyxiation if u dont fix its curve and properly blanket 00:56:627 (4) i attempted to do this but be warned i dont give much of a damn about blankets
01:03:208 (5) - why did u even bother putting 4 points in this it looked funny
01:28:137 (3) - okay i mean i guess it looks nicer this way but this slider is boring compared to the others, you could do a (((proper))) 4 point slider curve thingy and it would be really nice i guess that's the point, if you listen to the music, the backing sound for this slider is falling in pitch while the others are rising or equal. It was made less fancy to stick out and describe something in the song being different, so making it a more fancy slider defeats the purpose
01:41:498 (2) - uhh wtf? i guess it's fine but weird xD yes
01:54:262 (2,3) - i know it would mess up and make a massive jump to 01:55:658 (4) but that's 2.04x ds between these two and it would fit better if you ctrl-g 3 this is only minimally larger than the other patterns, patterns that big are actually common around there if you look at 01:53:464 (5,1) - , for now i dont know what to do with this
02:01:840 (1) - the end curve of this slider needs to be rounded off a bit more - currently if u look at the hole in the middle its like squished rounded off more
02:07:224 (3) - see why can't u make the s/z sliders look like this i dont know what to do here, mind clarifying?
02:15:002 (3) - make a triangle ok
02:19:788 (2,3) - blanket off 2~3px to the left plz curved previous slider differently

okay that was a long and very stupid mod but you're welcome anyways
give kD

this mod was pretty neat for what it's worth, but i only wished you explained some things that you wanted me to do more thoroughly because to multiple suggestions doing something else was the solution for me because you didnt mention the thing you take issue with clearly

DJ Lucky wrote:
I only modding the Hard difficulty since there isn't much for me to mod at any other diff..

00:12:753 - Hey I notice that this feels empty here...It is fine like it is but the intermediate difficulty have atleast a slider around this part - that's because the intermediate has less of a diffspike in that point - i wanted to give hard players a bit time to breathe if they fuck up anything in that pattern so i left out a bit more than usual so that they can grab the next entry point and read approach circles

00:47:553 (3) - I don't really hear a sound here and if it is not that noticeable (might just be my hearing) there's a random and very lol double there and i thought that's more interesting to follow

- Ugh... Sorry for really short mod and no need to kd if u don't have to

CucumberCuc wrote:
Hi again

[oko's Intermedidate]
00:02:183 (4,5) this sliders have the same distance on ticks like for 5,6; maybe do far? increased distance slightly
00:11:755 (6,7,8) do the same distance? sure
00:13:351 I think you can be a little change here the arrangement of objects and you can do this: if the last set circle not like it, then you can dismiss it
00:38:878 ^ that decreases contrast to the previous section though which is what im going for here
00:39:875 (5) move right-up for distance like on 00:41:271 (7,8) ? looks a bit better yes
00:49:248 (3,4) - 00:23:721 (3,4) - 01:03:607 (6,7) different range all of them are clearly overlapping so i think changing this is purely cosmetic and i dont think it matters
01:13:977 (1,2,3) do the same distance? it's a slight crescendo here so i went with mapping that
01:17:168 (1,2,1,2,1,2) fix stacks? yea
01:48:678 (3,4) - 01:57:851 (3,4) - 02:00:244 (1,2,3,4) different range same as previous
02:12:210 you have sound, why miss? to introduce solo-standing doubles to the diff

[oko's Hard]
00:29:704 (2,3,4,5) - 00:36:086 (2,3,4,5) - 01:01:613 slightly different range
00:26:513 (2,4) - 00:32:895 (2,4) ^ again, i dont think these matter
00:54:832 (1,2) fix stack? fixed but it keeps breaking itself so i dont know for how long itll be fixed

*week or two, sry about that ):
Thanks for the feedback!

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Tags:2015 Nadia Mladjao Sherika Sherard Eurodance The Wrong Kind of War French Women Okorin Okoratu Sous les jupes des filles
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Tags:2015 Nadia Mladjao Sherika Sherard Eurodance The Wrong Kind of War French Women Okorin Okoratu Sous les jupes des filles
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btw @AnimeStyle, dir is klar dass du 1920x1080 images benutzen darfst als bg? https://puu.sh/xNghK/7a844aaa58.jpg

AnimeStyle

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Topic Starter

AnimeStyle 2017-10-01T21:36:34+00:00

Okorin wrote:
btw @AnimeStyle, dir is klar dass du 1920x1080 images benutzen darfst als bg? https://puu.sh/xNghK/7a844aaa58.jpg

Nein, ist es nicht xD Danke für die Info

riffy

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riffy 2017-10-05T17:30:33+00:00

soon tm

AnimeStyle

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Topic Starter

AnimeStyle 2017-10-05T18:02:37+00:00

Bakari wrote:
soon tm

The anticipation is more than real.

riffy

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riffy 2017-10-05T20:51:36+00:00

General

According to Modding assistant the following hitsounds are unused: normal-sliderwhistle.wav and normal-sliderwhistle2.wav
normal-slidertick9.wav and normal-hitwhistle4.wav are louder on the right ear, is that intentional?
not too much, but still

easy
I don't really see where Approach Rate 4 comes from, 3 would actually look more natural and line up with the difficulty spread better.

normal

01:17:567 - I'd finish the slider here, as 01:17:966 - this would require a circle to click on to emphasize the way the music goes.
Note: 01:20:758 -01:26:741 (1) - and similar - same

oko's intermediate

00:43:265 (3,4) - the jump here feels like a bit of an overkill, actually. There is not much that'd justify the jump and players may feel confused.
Note: 01:15:573 (6,7,8) - i'd probably tone down this one as well. I'd generally keep jumps toned down unless music absolutely requires something jumpy.

just a couple of jumps that i dont find really necessary

oko's hard
wouldn't really change much, if anything, just a jump for 00:46:855 (1) -

insane

01:50:373 (8,10) - I'd probably remove these tow to highlight the other 1/s which is much louder

Bakari wrote:
Tthe thing about the song that I like a lot is the 3/4 beats, I expected you to highlight them a lot more. Basically, I would use actual circles instead of sliders in patterns like 00:18:337 (7) - 00:43:863 (2) - and such.I guess I just feel like clicking stuff a bit more often, though this is subjective.
I'd still mention that one more time

not entirely sure how i feel about the set, but it's definirely not bad

AnimeStyle

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AnimeStyle 2017-10-06T12:51:58+00:00

Bakari wrote:
General
According to Modding assistant the following hitsounds are unused: normal-sliderwhistle.wav and normal-sliderwhistle2.wav - they are both used in oko's difficulties, for reference 00:01:186 (3) and 00:10:758 (8).
normal-slidertick9.wav and normal-hitwhistle4.wav are louder on the right ear, is that intentional? - no it isn't, but I have no clue on how to fix it - can you help me with that? - also could you check whistle 4 5 6 and 7 concerning that problem?
not too much, but still
easy
I don't really see where Approach Rate 4 comes from, 3 would actually look more natural and line up with the difficulty spread better. - fixed

normal
01:17:567 - I'd finish the slider here, as 01:17:966 - this would require a circle to click on to emphasize the way the music goes.
Note: 01:20:758 -01:26:741 (1) - and similar - same
- remapped that part, since you're not the only one, who has been suggesting that.

insane

01:50:373 (8,10) - I'd probably remove these tow to highlight the other 1/s which is much louder - fixed

not entirely sure how i feel about the set, but it's definirely not bad

definitely not bad is better than bad so I'm satisfied xD

Okoayu

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Okoayu 2017-10-07T19:05:05+00:00

did both things on intermediate, but if it's slider-slider i dont think jumps matter as much because they basically force you to play guided 1/1 and not actual 1/2

the thing on hard played worse as a jump so i didnt do that

hard

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Tags:2015 Nadia Mladjao Sherika Sherard Eurodance The Wrong Kind of War French Women Okorin Okoratu Sous les jupes des filles
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AnimeStyle

653 posts

Joined December 2012

Topic Starter

AnimeStyle 2017-10-08T09:26:51+00:00

Updated~

riffy

osu! Alumni

8,061 posts

Joined December 2010

riffy 2017-10-08T10:35:41+00:00

https://bakarisu.s-ul.eu/U52v6Aue.zip I basically converted them to mono, everything else seemed okay when I was checking them.

Everything else is fine with me.

AnimeStyle

653 posts

Joined December 2012

Topic Starter

AnimeStyle 2017-10-08T22:12:57+00:00

Bakari wrote:
https://bakarisu.s-ul.eu/U52v6Aue.zip I basically converted them to mono, everything else seemed okay when I was checking them.

Everything else is fine with me.

Yeah~ Updated again, and thank you <3

riffy

osu! Alumni

8,061 posts

Joined December 2010

riffy 2017-10-09T11:35:13+00:00

Let's just pretend I'm Kurai for a second.

Bubbled!

AnimeStyle

653 posts

Joined December 2012

Topic Starter

AnimeStyle 2017-10-09T14:11:17+00:00

Bakari wrote:
Let's just pretend I'm Kurai for a second.

Bubbled!

Happiness intensifies

Nozhomi

Global Moderator

4,569 posts

Joined May 2013

Nozhomi 2017-10-09T17:33:15+00:00

Reminder doing smth in more or less ~~24h~~ hope before end of the week, will update.
Yes

[General :]

Disable Widescreen Support on all diffs.
Why there's a comboburst alone ?

[oko's Intermediate :]

00:26:912 (3,4) - Was just wondering if 1/2 stacks like 00:26:912 (3,4) - could be confused for a 1/4 stack like you did for 00:06:471 (6,7) - . 01:43:293 (5,6) - this one is probably the best example since there's 1/4 before and after.

[Insane :]

00:31:698 (4) - Since you ignore or put vocal beat as weak sound, I think you could do smth like did oko on Hard diff, a triplet on 00:31:898 - to match the fast drum sound. If you do it, same for other kiai parts.
01:01:712 (3) - These kind of sliders don't fit your global aesthetic you use here. A less angled one would works better.

Note for you, for future maps, don't break flow that much on your patterns, it makes them a bit weird to catch especially on lower diff and don't looks that good.

Mukyu~

AnimeStyle

653 posts

Joined December 2012

Topic Starter

AnimeStyle 2017-10-19T19:48:53+00:00

Nozhomi wrote:
Reminder doing smth in more or less ~~24h~~ hope before end of the week, will update.
Yes

[General :]
Disable Widescreen Support on all diffs. - fixed
Why there's a comboburst alone ? - because it fits the background nicely imo

[Insane :]
00:31:698 (4) - Since you ignore or put vocal beat as weak sound, I think you could do smth like did oko on Hard diff, a triplet on 00:31:898 - to match the fast drum sound. If you do it, same for other kiai parts. - 00:32:197 - since I hear no drum here, I don't feel confident in placing something there - it also just fits so nicely in oko's hard because of the different arrangement of the violin sounds.
01:01:712 (3) - These kind of sliders don't fit your global aesthetic you use here. A less angled one would works better. - 01:00:815 (6,1) - the two sliders beforehand were rotated by 60 and so was (1) to (3) - I REALLY like this pattern, please let me have it qwq

Note for you, for future maps, don't break flow that much on your patterns, it makes them a bit weird to catch especially on lower diff and don't looks that good. - I simply like breaking flow now and then, but I'll defintely regulate myself concerning easier difficulties :3

Mukyu~

Okoayu

Nomination Assessment Team / Elite Nominator

4,959 posts

Joined May 2012

Okoayu 2017-10-22T13:52:49+00:00

talked to noz irl and fixed ... mostly everything? i mean stuff is still stacked but it's not stacked in thin air now or something

code

osu file format v14

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AnimeStyle

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AnimeStyle 2017-10-22T15:31:56+00:00

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Nozhomi

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Nozhomi 2017-10-22T18:13:09+00:00

K then go~

Mun

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Mun 2017-10-23T19:59:56+00:00

Hello there!
I have some concerns with the highest difficulty, and do not think that it is quite yet ready for ranking.

Insane

Important:
01:37:909 - Why is this section 00:26:114 - copy+pasted and rotated 180 degrees?

Rhythm
00:06:371 (5,6,7,8,9,1) - These are some of the quietest notes in this part of the song, being only quiet hihats. Why are they so highly spaced compared to all other 1/4 rhythms in this section?
00:06:969 - Throughout this section, the rhythm appears to be fairly inconsistent. Specifically, the snare at 00:07:368 (3) - is part of a constant kick-snare pattern, in which every second and fourth white tick has a snare. However, this is not emphasized in any consistent way. After the aforementioned hit circle, consider the following: 00:08:166 (7) - 00:08:963 (2) - 00:09:362 (5) - 00:10:359 (2) - 00:11:257 (6) - . As you can see, this snare is all over the place: it's in the start of sliders, it's the first beat in triples, and it's on several sliderends after that. I recommend fixing this by establishing a single, consistent rhythm that encompasses the (fairly repetitive) instrumental, then repeating that same rhythm whenever it repeats in the song.
00:13:351 - Apply what I just stated to this section as well - notice how this measure's rhythm is mapped compared to 00:14:946 - and then to 00:16:542 - the first and second are the same thing, but the third changes despite a lack of changes in the song.
00:27:012 (4,5) - Despite 00:27:012 (4) - not existing in the music at all and 00:27:111 (5) - being extremely quiet, this triple is mapped with unnecessarily high spacing.
00:39:875 (5) - Sliders should start on strong beats and end on beats of equal or lesser strength. I'd advise against responding to this by saying that it is following the vocals - while that is entirely true, 00:42:866 (3,4,5,1,2) - this closely following segment does not follow the vocals at all, despite them being there - making this part inconsistent with what comes before it.
01:16:370 (4) - This slider ends on a downbeat, which is strongly advised against.
01:18:365 (3) - This repeat slider ignores several fairly important beats, consider replacing it with a hit circle and making a 4/4 slider from 01:18:564 - to 01:18:963 - .
01:17:567 - Throughout this section, the map seems to swap between ignoring and following different tracks. For example, 01:18:165 (2) - follows a vocal beat, but nothing else in the 01:17:567 (1,2,3) - pattern accurately follows vocals. Everything is making a strong effort to follow the kick-snare pattern, but that causes the map to sacrifice the ability to follow the rest of the song.

The issues I've pointed out here exist throughout the map, please look over it all with these points in mind!

I'll mod more if the map is DQ'd.

AnimeStyle

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AnimeStyle 2017-10-23T20:16:34+00:00

Mun wrote:
01:37:909 - Why is this section 00:26:114 - copy+pasted and rotated 180 degrees?

Do me a favor and have at least a look at prior mods before trying to get my map disqualified.

Mun

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Mun 2017-10-23T20:29:17+00:00

AnimeStyle wrote:
Do me a favor and have at least a look at prior mods before trying to get my map disqualified.

Being passive-aggressive at a single point isn't a response.
Also, I honestly am not just "trying to get your map disqualified" - I genuinely think that you should improve this, not that it should not be ranked.
Please consider and respond to the rest of the mod.

Also, the only response I see to the problem with just copy+pasting and rotating is that you just didn't want to map the rest of the song. You're openly admitting to being lazy - I am quite sure that in the time that it takes you to find a reason to deny everything, you could complete the rest of the map and more - it's only about 10-30 seconds after all, what makes that so hard to do?

Sieg

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Sieg 2017-10-23T20:49:08+00:00

yo, randomly passing by

Mun wrote:
Rhythm
00:39:875 (5) - Sliders should start on strong beats and end on beats of equal or lesser strength. I'd advise against responding to this by saying that it is following the vocals - while that is entirely true, 00:42:866 (3,4,5,1,2) - this closely following segment does not follow the vocals at all, despite them being there - making this part inconsistent with what comes before it.

actually, this is a great example switching between strong lines in music and bringing variety to the play-rhythm

Mun

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Mun 2017-10-23T20:57:58+00:00

Sieg wrote:
actually, this is a great example switching between strong lines in music and bringing variety to the play-rhythm

Completely understandable, and I agree that it's a good idea to bring a healthy amount of variety to gameplay to make a map engaging - it is, after all, a level in a game.
However, from where I see it, the change in rhythm here was very arbitrary. Variety that betrays the player's expectations to this degree should be reserved for more major changes in the song, as this is basically a complete switch away from the prior rhythm. There are better ways to both follow the music and provide an engaging level of variety.

Trust

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Trust 2017-10-23T22:26:33+00:00

grats

also the map is fine lol. the rhythms you mapped play intuitively and you did a good job of incorporating different layers of the track d('-'d

it's also pretty catchy

AnimeStyle

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AnimeStyle 2017-10-23T22:35:37+00:00

Talking about many things with Mun:

SPOILER

22:59 AnimeStyle: Could we talk about it?
22:59 Mun: Of course.
22:59 AnimeStyle: Thanks
22:59 Mun: My goal isn't to fight with you - if it was, I'd be PMing you about how your map sucks and i hate you for having mapped it
23:00 AnimeStyle: Sorry if i sent the wrong signal, I didn't want to attack you with this whole "prior mod thing"
23:00 Mun: but none of that is true, and I'm just here to tell you how I think you could make your map better
23:00 Mun: ye ye, I get it - everyone words stuff badly in the heat of the moment
23:01 Mun: so anyway, that doesn't matter
23:01 AnimeStyle: I'm getting way to anxious when someone attacks my work
23:01 AnimeStyle: And I'm deeply sorry for that
23:02 Mun: I'm sorry if I came across as attacking your work
23:02 AnimeStyle: That's why I contacted you right away
23:02 AnimeStyle: I'm just to sensible
23:02 AnimeStyle: that's all
23:02 Mun: I get it ^^
23:03 Mun: one of the most important policies I use when I'm modding or responding is that the mod is about your map, not about you
23:03 Mun: and getting criticism is honestly one of the worst feelings, but taking something from that and visibly getting better because of it feels great
23:03 AnimeStyle: I mean why should you attack me and stuff xD It should be more then obvious
23:04 AnimeStyle: I can get along with criticsm well. Except for osu
23:04 Mun: haha
23:04 AnimeStyle: Because it takes me a lot of time. And it's something I don't do for me
23:05 Mun: Beatmapping should totally be something you do for you
23:06 AnimeStyle: At the point when I'm presenting my work for others to consume, it immeditaly doesn't feel like it
23:06 AnimeStyle: maybe that's just me
23:06 Mun: Everyone feels differently about it
23:07 AnimeStyle: It's just that I want to give something back. I'm playing so many maps or rather did. And everyone had to work so hard for making it. That's my way of showing gratidute.
23:08 AnimeStyle: And that's why I feel so bad when I get critized for it. Because then it feels like it wasn't good enough.
23:08 Mun: I get you, yeah
23:09 Mun: It feels like you worked hard on something and then the people you show it to didn't appreciate it, right?
23:09 AnimeStyle: exactly
23:09 AnimeStyle: I don't really need a thank you. But some kind of "I like it"
23:09 Mun: Yeah, I understand
23:10 AnimeStyle: Because what is it worth if I can't satisfy the one
23:10 AnimeStyle: I'm overcomplicating things way too much
23:11 Mun: There's nothing more complicated or less understandable than emotions
23:11 AnimeStyle: So true
23:12 Mun: But you see, the osu community isn't a monolith
23:12 AnimeStyle: but at least this time I know my problem xD
23:12 Mun: XD
23:12 AnimeStyle: I can't please everyone
23:13 Mun: and personally, I'm one of the hardest guys to please on that front
23:13 AnimeStyle: My map will never please you, because you map in a different way
23:13 Mun: It's even hard for me to make a map because when I look at it, I think it's bad XD
23:13 AnimeStyle: more jump heavy
23:13 AnimeStyle: my map is disgrace in that regard
23:13 AnimeStyle: xD
23:14 Mun: i mean, nozhomi liked your map - he thinks that it could be a lot better, but reminds him of his own mapping from back when he started
23:15 AnimeStyle: I like what I did. And what it has become after all those mods, that's why it bothered me so much when you posted something
23:16 Mun: I can totally understand why that's frustrating
23:16 AnimeStyle: But that shouldn't stop me from improving
23:16 AnimeStyle: I know xD
23:16 AnimeStyle: I'm not perfect and won't ever be, but I can try to get "more" perfect
23:17 Mun: and that's why i personally map
23:17 Mun: specifically for the sake of improving
23:18 Mun: so
23:18 Mun: want to work together to make your map better, or do you just want to leave it as is?
23:18 Mun: because if you want to leave it as is, honestly I won't stop you
23:18 AnimeStyle: Firstly I want to have a proper look at your mod
23:19 AnimeStyle: because I just had a quick look
23:19 AnimeStyle: because triggered as fuck and stuff
23:19 Mun: lol ye
23:20 Mun: I have a lot more to say if you do decide to work on it some more
23:20 AnimeStyle: only thing I checked was the part sieg talked about
23:20 Mun: yeah
23:21 AnimeStyle: And well, I won't change that xD The switch between what muscial line i follow is consistent throughout the parts
23:22 Mun: but the switch itself is an inconsistency
23:22 AnimeStyle: Many maps switch between vocals and baseline
23:22 AnimeStyle: And this song is pretty basic
23:22 Mun: right, of course they do, but there is some sort of catalyst for that, and it still keeps some sort of relation to prior parts
23:23 Mun: in this case, it's fairly spontaneous
23:23 AnimeStyle: rhythm wise it's allways the same
23:23 AnimeStyle: And the vocals don't do anything special
23:23 AnimeStyle: after the first refrain/chorus it's set in stone
23:24 AnimeStyle: And it's quite easy to get the hang of it imo
23:24 AnimeStyle: I tried it with people with the respective skilllevel
23:24 AnimeStyle: really xD
23:24 Mun: For the most part, I'm not arguing playability
23:25 Mun: I'm arguing representation
23:26 AnimeStyle: Could you try to give me a better idea on what you mean by that?
23:26 Mun: sure, sure
23:26 Mun: good representation: consistently following the most important parts of a song with both rhythm and movement
23:27 Mun: the major issue you have is that changes in what you follow are arbitrary, and the only thing you follow very consistently is arguably the least prominent part of the song
23:28 AnimeStyle: they don't seems arbitrary to me, I think that's the problem xD
23:29 Mun: 01:17:567 - Then if you don't mind, some explanation of this section would be helpful
23:30 Mun: it swaps between sort of following the vocals and completely ignoring them
23:30 AnimeStyle: this part doesn't follow vocals
23:30 AnimeStyle: it's an own rhythm
23:30 Mun: an own rhythm?
23:30 AnimeStyle: yes
23:30 Mun: in other words, one that does not follow the song
23:31 AnimeStyle: but it's alligned to the basic rhythm of the song
23:31 AnimeStyle: that's why you can follow it
23:31 Mun: the basic rhythm of the song is kick-snare-kick-snare on every white tick
23:31 AnimeStyle: and why it doesn't sound off
23:31 AnimeStyle: xDDD
23:31 Mun: which is basically saying "it's mapped at 150.43 bpm, and the song is also mapped at 150.43 bpm, so there's no problem"
23:32 Mun: that in itself is a pretty major issue
23:32 Mun: on top of that
23:32 Mun: this section repeats
23:33 Mun: 01:17:168 - then 01:20:359 - then 01:23:550 - 01:26:741 -
23:33 AnimeStyle: i mean with the basic rhythm the 00:13:351 (1) - synth in that part
23:33 Mun: every single one of these is mapped very differently
23:33 Mun: which is a major consistency problem
23:33 AnimeStyle: it's the driving force of the entire song
23:33 Mun: but here, that synth does not exist
23:33 Mun: and this part doesn't follow that same rhythm anyway
23:34 Mun: and this is totally arbitrary, but the hitsounds you use for the calm part i'm talking about are way too intense
23:34 Mun: an extremely loud open snare really overwhelms the quiet clap that takes the place of the snare
23:35 Mun: i can make a different sample for you if you want one
23:35 AnimeStyle: It's basically a stripped down version of the basic beat. That's why it even works as a standalone rhythm
23:36 AnimeStyle: I like it how it is
23:36 Mun: but as i said
23:36 Mun: the basic beat does not exist there
23:36 AnimeStyle: and it doesn't have to be there
23:37 AnimeStyle: because it's already ingraved into the players mind
23:37 Mun: mapping something that doesn't exist in favor of the many things that do exist is basically the same as ignoring the song entirely - and if we just did that all the time, could we still call osu! a rhythm game?
23:37 Mun: but i'm not talking about playability
23:37 Mun: the players are heavily acclimated to anime maps that don't follow anything at all
23:37 AnimeStyle: You get way to worked-up on that one
23:37 Mun: they can deal with another rhythm that doesn't follow the song
23:37 AnimeStyle: there a so many maps who expand on the song
23:38 Mun: i'm not worked up, just trying to explain that the rhythm just doesn't work
23:38 Mun: expand on != ignore
23:38 AnimeStyle: and that's what I'm trying to do with my maps
23:38 Mun: ok let's see
23:39 Mun: instead of pushing against you i'll see if there's a way that you can use that bass rhythm here that isn't detrimental
23:39 AnimeStyle: You are way to hung up on this, really. You can create something on your own as long as it fits the song
23:39 AnimeStyle: Do you really feel and I really mean feel that it doesnt sound right?
23:39 Mun: Yes, very much so
23:40 Mun: That's why I have a problem here - not because you are not following the song, but because your map isn't doing what you say it is
23:40 AnimeStyle: But it is xD And neither oko nor bakari or noz had a problem with it
23:41 AnimeStyle: and they have more experience then me or you
23:41 Mun: no they definitely had problems with it
23:41 Mun: they just took a different approach of "do better on future maps"
23:42 Mun: while i'm taking the much more aggressive "do better on this map" route
23:42 Mun: which may be why i sound so worked up when i'm not
23:42 AnimeStyle: i talked with them
23:42 AnimeStyle: at least with oko
23:42 Mun: about how my mod is cancer? :thonkin:
23:42 AnimeStyle: I can create my own rhythm als long as it fits and it's graspable
23:42 Mun: i personally will not speak for any of them
23:42 Mun: but what i am saying here is not that you can't do that
23:43 Mun: what i'm trying to get to now is that you could do that better
23:43 AnimeStyle: I started making this map in febuary
23:43 AnimeStyle: I worked constantly on it and made rhythm drafts
23:43 AnimeStyle: I did consider going with the basic beat
23:44 AnimeStyle: Or doing what oko did
23:44 AnimeStyle: using a combination of vocals and the synth
23:44 AnimeStyle: but it sounded the best while applying my own rhythm
23:44 AnimeStyle: and I also had different drafts for that
23:45 AnimeStyle: Yes this a thing of "I like it best this way"
23:45 AnimeStyle: But I DID consider everything else i promise you that
23:45 Mun: you certainly didn't consider everything else
23:45 Mun: you considered every other method, I believe that
23:45 Mun: but if you considered EVERYTHING else you'd still be making this map a thousand years later
23:46 Mun: XD
23:46 AnimeStyle: probably
23:46 AnimeStyle: but everything that seemed plausible and okay for me
23:51 AnimeStyle: I want to be happy with what I did. And using this rhythm made me the most happy, because it felt the best to play and listen to
23:52 AnimeStyle: Normal does something on it's own as well
23:53 AnimeStyle: To better understand you, could you tell me why you don't have a problem with it
23:53 Mun: well that's a Normal diff
23:53 Mun: those never follow the song
23:53 AnimeStyle: they do
23:53 AnimeStyle: just on a more minimalstic attempt
23:53 Mun: i'm meming
23:53 Mun: I never said I didn't have a problem with your normal
23:54 AnimeStyle: I'm dying
23:54 AnimeStyle: xD
23:54 AnimeStyle: 2x
23:54 Mun: I only even modded one diff, and only partially at that
23:54 AnimeStyle: I'm starting to believe that we really just have a really different view on things
23:55 Mun: well that's part of it
23:55 AnimeStyle: But at least I kinda get now where you are coming from
23:55 Mun: the major thing is
23:55 Mun: well things
23:55 Mun: are 1) we have different viewpoints on mapping in general
23:55 Mun: 2) we're on opposite sides of an argument
23:56 Mun: and 3) you seem to think that spending more time = making a better product
23:56 Mun: i may be wrong on 3, that's just my observation
23:56 Mun: but you've repeatedly used the argument that you spent lots of time making this to justify what you did
23:58 Mun: anyway, moving on from that part because it seems the rhythms themselves don't bother you
23:59 Mun: why are 00:14:946 - and 00:16:542 - different?
00:00 AnimeStyle: I did it one time i believe - just to prove that I actually did think things through
00:00 AnimeStyle: because I get the feeling that you don't believe in that xD
00:01 AnimeStyle: and yes i think time is needed to make something better, but it doesn't equate to that
00:01 AnimeStyle: I can spend one year
00:01 AnimeStyle: and it still can be shit
00:02 Mun: yep
00:03 AnimeStyle: they are rhythm-wise identical. Only difference is the usage of slider circle usage
00:03 Mun: they aren't rhythmically identical though
00:04 Mun: i mean yes, objects are on the same spots
00:04 Mun: but that's not rhythmically identical
00:04 Mun: they're hardly even rhythmically similar
00:04 AnimeStyle: they are rhythm-wise identical
00:04 AnimeStyle: turn the music off
00:04 Mun: oh I see
00:05 AnimeStyle: listen to it standalone
00:05 Mun: so this is where your problem is
00:05 Mun: no no I get that
00:05 Mun: yes, objects are on the same spots
00:05 AnimeStyle: I can use slider/cirlce in any variety i want
00:05 Mun: but as I said, the patterns are hardly even rhythmically similar
00:05 Mun: that's a misconception
00:05 AnimeStyle: I changed it this time to refelct on vocals
00:06 Mun: you use hit circles and sliderheads on strong beats, and sliderends on weaker beats
00:06 Mun: as sliderends are an inherently weaker object
00:07 AnimeStyle: I'm trying to avoid that
00:07 AnimeStyle: but i don't stick to it just because
00:08 AnimeStyle: If I got a reason I do change things up
00:08 AnimeStyle: but yes generally speaking you should avoid that
00:08 Mun: wait
00:08 Mun: you don't stick to it "just because"?
00:08 AnimeStyle: nah
00:09 Mun: or are those 2 messages together
00:09 Mun: because im like halfway to ubertriggered
00:09 AnimeStyle: i meant that i won't stick to it just because you should
00:10 AnimeStyle: I'm not afraid to disregard something if I want to accentuate something different
00:10 Mun: of course, of course
00:10 AnimeStyle: Yes you have to stick to formular for structure
00:10 AnimeStyle: But I really dislike getting forced into it
00:11 Mun: there isn't a single formula, though
00:11 Mun: structure is basically just putting all objects in a map with a specific unchanging train of thought
00:11 Mun: not as in a set of instructions, but a certain way that you interpret what the song gives you
00:11 AnimeStyle: Sticking to the sliderend rule is one
00:11 AnimeStyle: or keeping the flow
00:12 AnimeStyle: I break flow - if i feel it looks nice
00:12 AnimeStyle: or rather better
00:13 Mun: those aren't parts of structure, really
00:13 Mun: and there are different ways to handle flow
00:13 AnimeStyle: they are, because they make maps more heterogen
00:14 AnimeStyle: I really don't know if this word exists as that in the english language
00:14 Mun: you mean homogeneous
00:14 Mun: cohesive
00:14 AnimeStyle: Yes
00:14 AnimeStyle: I must look like a real idiot
00:15 AnimeStyle: if you didn't think that beforehand
00:15 AnimeStyle: xD
00:15 Mun: lol
00:15 Mun: why would that be?
00:16 Mun: oh also one major issue, big thing
00:16 Mun: 02:28:364 (5) - this kickslider is placed afTER THE SONG ENDS REEEEE
00:17 AnimeStyle: I just slipped up heterogen and homogen, and just stating yes after you corrected me is generally a sign of I'm stupid and won't acknowledge it
00:17 Mun: wat
00:17 AnimeStyle: nvm
00:17 AnimeStyle: already talked with someone about it
00:17 Mun: making a mistake and then acknowledging someone's correction of it, especially when it's in a language you aren't native to, doesn't make you look like an idiot lol
00:18 AnimeStyle: i don't like it ending on 02:28:364 (5) -
00:18 Mun: then fix it dude!
00:19 AnimeStyle: you got me wrong
00:19 AnimeStyle: xD
00:19 AnimeStyle: the red tick
00:19 AnimeStyle: placing a slider there is meh
00:19 Mun: song ends on 02:28:164 -
00:19 AnimeStyle: and ending on 4/4 is meh 2
00:19 Mun: anything after it is due to the echo effect
00:19 AnimeStyle: it is
00:20 AnimeStyle: that's right
00:20 Mun: so this is literally the end of the song 02:28:164 -
00:20 Mun: why would you place anything after it
00:20 AnimeStyle: because it felt right
00:20 AnimeStyle: it looks pleasant
00:20 Mun: it feels very wrong
00:20 AnimeStyle: and it doesn't sound off
00:20 Mun: it looks alright
00:20 AnimeStyle: it doesn't for me
00:20 AnimeStyle: xD
00:21 Mun: but you can accomplish the same visual with different rhythm like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9384061
00:22 AnimeStyle: 02:28:065 - 02:28:264 - i dont want sound there
00:22 AnimeStyle: and even if i would end it on the new beat - i dislike it xD
00:22 AnimeStyle: disregarding looks
00:23 Mun: but why
00:23 Mun: I find it strange and hard to understand that you have such a strong aversion to ignoring the actual ending of the song
00:24 AnimeStyle: because it sounds complete then I suppose
00:24 Mun: because it sounds complete when you end it on the right beat?
00:25 AnimeStyle: 02:27:766 - the first beat and repeat create a tension that is only solved when using the slide at the end
00:25 AnimeStyle: It feels like I'm explaining why I'm gay right now
00:25 Mun: then you're forcing the map into patterns that don't actually follow the music, and should pick something else entirelyt
00:25 AnimeStyle: problem is the first slider fits the music
00:26 Mun: anyway I'm out of time
00:26 Mun: I haven't really seen any explanation of why any of what I'm having issues with actually works
00:26 Mun: just "I like this more"
00:26 Mun: and no explanation of why anything fits the music, just that it does
00:26 Mun: I'm gonna go now, make a formal reply to my mod so none of the QATs come along like "DQd for discussion"
00:27 AnimeStyle: I tried, believe me
00:27 AnimeStyle: well ciao then
00:27 Mun: thanks for not being an asshole about it ^^
00:27 Mun: and i'm sorry if i sounded like one at all
00:28 Mun: but believe me, it's easier to explain why two things relate than it is to explain something with no real explanation
00:28 AnimeStyle: I feel kinda kicked into the dumpster. But this won't kill me xD
00:28 AnimeStyle: so it's okay

I'll reply to the mod properly tomorrow.

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AnimeStyle 2017-10-24T19:51:54+00:00

Mun wrote:
Hello there!
I have some concerns with the highest difficulty, and do not think that it is quite yet ready for ranking.

Insane
Important:
01:37:909 - Why is this section 00:26:114 - copy+pasted and rotated 180 degrees? - because it's the same thing music-wise and I don't feel it's needed to map something new imo. You can call it lazyness, and it is. But as long as I can live with that, it's nobody's concern.

Rhythm
00:06:371 (5,6,7,8,9,1) - These are some of the quietest notes in this part of the song, being only quiet hihats. Why are they so highly spaced compared to all other 1/4 rhythms in this section? - they have the same 1,5 x DS as the rest of the map, also they are 1/16 not 1/4
00:06:969 - Throughout this section, the rhythm appears to be fairly inconsistent. Specifically, the snare at 00:07:368 (3) - is part of a constant kick-snare pattern, in which every second and fourth white tick has a snare. However, this is not emphasized in any consistent way. After the aforementioned hit circle, consider the following: 00:08:166 (7) - 00:08:963 (2) - 00:09:362 (5) - 00:10:359 (2) - 00:11:257 (6) - . As you can see, this snare is all over the place: it's in the start of sliders, it's the first beat in triples, and it's on several sliderends after that. I recommend fixing this by establishing a single, consistent rhythm that encompasses the (fairly repetitive) instrumental, then repeating that same rhythm whenever it repeats in the song. - That's boring and unnecessary, the hitsound is placed consistent except in the closing seconds before the next part to reflect the beat change. By now I know that you're fond of having the exact same Slider Circle composition for the same beat, but I don't have to do that, and also as I said, it's boring to play.
00:13:351 - Apply what I just stated to this section as well - notice how this measure's rhythm is mapped compared to 00:14:946 - and then to 00:16:542 - the first and second are the same thing, but the third changes despite a lack of changes in the song. ^ there isn't just a beat to a song and reflecting to vocals as well by using sliders is something I like.
00:27:012 (4,5) - Despite 00:27:012 (4) - not existing in the music at all and 00:27:111 (5) - being extremely quiet, this triple is mapped with unnecessarily high spacing. - same 1,5 spacing as always.
00:39:875 (5) - Sliders should start on strong beats and end on beats of equal or lesser strength. I'd advise against responding to this by saying that it is following the vocals - while that is entirely true, 00:42:866 (3,4,5,1,2) - this closely following segment does not follow the vocals at all, despite them being there - making this part inconsistent with what comes before it. - I'm more on the variety side opposed to the "follow all guidelines all the time", and it does follow the vocals. Even if you don't agree, Sieg has more experience than you and me combined, and if he says it's fine, it probably is.
01:16:370 (4) - This slider ends on a downbeat, which is strongly advised against. - By now I know this basic stuff and I consider something like this when mapping, but I sounded the best using a slider to reflect the vocals there.
01:18:365 (3) - This repeat slider ignores several fairly important beats, consider replacing it with a hit circle and making a 4/4 slider from 01:18:564 - to 01:18:963 - .
01:17:567 - Throughout this section, the map seems to swap between ignoring and following different tracks. For example, 01:18:165 (2) - follows a vocal beat, but nothing else in the 01:17:567 (1,2,3) - pattern accurately follows vocals. Everything is making a strong effort to follow the kick-snare pattern, but that causes the map to sacrifice the ability to follow the rest of the song.- we talked about that one already

The issues I've pointed out here exist throughout the map, please look over it all with these points in mind!
I'll mod more if the map is DQ'd.

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