Hanasaka Yui(CV: M.A.O) - Harumachi Clover‬ · forum‬

Uber

Joined May 2016

Topic Starter

Uber 2017-04-20T08:54:24+00:00

Kisses wrote:
Easy
00:08:101 (1,3) - imo you should keep the rhythm in these 2 parts the same since the rhythm of the song being mapped are very, very similar in the 2 places. So either make 00:08:101 (1) a 1/1 slider or make 00:09:791 (3) a 2/1 slider. Want 00:09:369 (2) to stand out and making 00:08:101 (1) 1 beat long would kinda destroy that and I want 00:10:636 (4) to be clickable and making 3 2 beats would destory that too
00:24:158 (1) - delete NC Fixed
[]gl thank

Eroge_master225 wrote:
NM

Easy
maybe ar2 nah

slider tick should be 2 Don't like the full beat sliders having ticks

00:08:101 (1) - move this down Why, it doesn't go off screen or anything lol

00:10:636 (4,1) - i don't think 4 should overlap 1 here overlap as well is to try to make it stand out since it's such a strong sound

00:28:383 (1) - extend this to next white tick Want 00:27:960 (2) to be clickable

polka

1,125 posts

Joined March 2014

polka 2017-04-28T00:25:50+00:00

[

General:]

Cool to see a different concept for insane. Good luck with that.

[

Easy:]

00:11:481 (1) - Touches HP bar. Not sure if you care.
00:24:158 (3) - The lyrics and pitch are very different, so i don't think using the exact same slider is a good way to represent this part.

[

Hard:]

00:00:284 (1,2) - Starting off way on the HP bar is not only a reduction of quality, but is also confusing. Start more in the playfield.
00:18:242 (1,2,3,4) - Watching this difficulty, I thought these were pretty edgy, but they're also really cool. Nice job.
00:24:158 (3,4,5) - These are more intense than 00:22:467 (3,4,5) - and I think they deserve to be unstacked.

[

Afteword:]

This set's hard and insane have some cool concepts that will really set this map apart from the billions of others. Plus no anime bg so points there.
GOOD LUCK

squishyguppy

1,256 posts

Joined March 2014

squishyguppy 2017-04-28T01:01:36+00:00

PolkaMocha wrote:
[Hard:]
00:00:284 (1,2) - Starting off way on the HP bar is not only a reduction of quality, but is also confusing. Start more in the playfield. disagree, plus not unrankable.
00:18:242 (1,2,3,4) - Watching this difficulty, I thought these were pretty edgy, but they're also really cool. Nice job.
00:24:158 (3,4,5) - These are more intense than 00:22:467 (3,4,5) - and I think they deserve to be unstacked. they are pretty close to the same for what they offer for intensity, though they are different, like the previous happening of this phrase, so I made them noticeably different similar to the previoius happening of this phrase.

Uber

141 posts

Joined May 2016

Topic Starter

Uber 2017-05-02T03:37:44+00:00

PolkaMocha wrote:

[Easy:]
00:11:481 (1) - Touches HP bar. Not sure if you care. i dont
00:24:158 (3) - The lyrics and pitch are very different, so i don't think using the exact same slider is a good way to represent this part. changed a thing

emilia

893 posts

Joined October 2012

emilia 2017-05-05T16:26:35+00:00

ok i try

[pishi]

firstly not very fond of the idea of having an unintuitive "structure" (weirdly spaced triplets indicated by combo colours) for an anime <TVsize since its rather annoying to play, at least from the players perspective. it isnt really interesting in any visual sense and only incorporates awkward movement which isnt necessarily well reflected in that intensity of the song. now that we have that out of the way:
suggest changing the green combo colour to something light as well, because i had to check the editor to see what they did in the map, since it deviated the original idea in my head that "light combo colour = weird spaced stream".
also last i remembered fully 255,255,255 white isnt rankable
00:12:115 (1,2,1) - theres also actually no triplet here
00:23:946 (1,2,1) - also i can't tell if theres a triplet here because the drum might be overlapping with the "sh" in the vocal (which also actually only starts on white). also for your reference, the top diff of one of the ranked sets doesnt have a triplet at this point (if it matters)

meh, sorry for being really unable to mod this objectively

[loli]

00:07:679 (7,8,1) - this felt a little awkward to play because of the perceived flow, but its really no biggie

plain, nothing i could see that was bad

[bor]

00:00:284 (1,2) - is this not too close to the hp bar
00:10:848 (4,5) - random stack?
00:24:369 (4,5) - ^, makes no sense to keep them if you've never had them for similar lyrics/song structure

i think theres nothing i can objectively mod about this map. i'd just like to say that i feel like the structure of this map is very haphazard and messy for a hard. things like random overlaps, weird slider shapes, inconsistent DS with no emphasis whatsoever and etc. i think the rhythmic choices and aesthetics can be further brushed up, though me pointing them out and having them being rejected would be very pointless.

[dash]

why is the whole map so soft?? why dont you just take the volume points of the other diffs?
the distances are way too big for a normal, and the cs is probably too small as well. theres no need to have such a difficult normal if the song doesnt allow for it anyways (ranked set at 1.6~1.65 for reference)
00:00:284 (1,2) - consider flipping the rhythm (hitcircle first then slider)

emphasis for your map is a little messy, i think the rhythm needs remapping. you can emphasise multiple tracks, but dont overstep or you'll exceed the limits of what a normal can let you do

[uber]

o so u only mapped an easy nice lo
is the volume meant to be like that?

nothing to complain

confusing set, gl

squishyguppy

1,256 posts

Joined March 2014

squishyguppy 2017-05-06T06:48:16+00:00

Emilia wrote:
ok i try

[bor]
00:00:284 (1,2) - is this not too close to the hp bar it barely touches, and is not unrankable.
00:10:848 (4,5) - random stack? this is as random as the song.
00:24:369 (4,5) - ^, makes no sense to keep them if you've never had them for similar lyrics/song structure refer to this because these are the same because the song is the same here, though the song is different in other parts.

i think theres nothing i can objectively mod about this map. i'd just like to say that i feel like the structure of this map is very haphazard and messy for a hard. things like random overlaps, weird slider shapes, inconsistent DS with no emphasis whatsoever and etc. i think the rhythmic choices and aesthetics can be further brushed up, though me pointing them out and having them being rejected would be very pointless. you should look more into the map if you don't understand it, though if you find something that doesn't make sense, you should say why you don't think it makes sense
[/notice]

confusing set, gl

emilia

893 posts

Joined October 2012

emilia 2017-05-06T18:01:44+00:00

borborygmos wrote:
Emilia wrote:
stuff

i guess it might be better to explain my perspective

most hards i've seen contain consistent distance snap and covers the song fairly well in terms of rhythm choices. what i've been seeing in your map is rather distances that dont really make much sense with respect to the song and rhythm choices that arent very optimal for representing the song. here i think i can point out a few examples

distance:

00:01:763 (3,4,5) - not sure why there was a sudden increase in distance when nothing in the music was very indicative of anything worth emphasising. and yea, it does repeat itself, but that isnt a good enough way to justify yourself just because its repetitive and that its an "intended structure". it, in my opinion, really doesnt fit with the song
00:07:045 (4,5) - stack when 00:03:665 (4,5) - this isnt? i noticed that this repeats itself as well, but similarly to above, calling it a "structure" and justifying it is very meaningless, though its a lot milder in this case because its a stack which is applicable to hards
00:01:129 (5,1) - it would probably be understandable if something like this was a jump instead, since the instruments are a strong lead in and are worthy of emphasis
00:09:580 (1,2) - another needless massive jump
00:11:270 (1,2,3) - vs 00:24:791 (1,2,3) - perhaps require more "structured" consistency?

its more how your distances are randomly "structured" and you're just hiding behind that to make a "different" hard, and what is really the point of that? why go out of your way trying to rank a hard that can be made more consistent and simpler to a hard player? justifying anything by calling it structure seems to be too much of a cop out in my eyes

rhythm:

00:02:608 (6,1) - triplets are 100% allowed on hards, so why dont you map them? your whole map doesnt contain any triplets which makes the rhythm feel very very plain. why not just map them in anyways?
00:14:228 (5) - as with here, you're mapping to both the instruments and vocals, so why not make it more consistent
00:03:665 (4) - vocals dont actually end here, its just trailing off at this point, so why not make the white tick a clickable drum beat instead?

accommodating multiple rhythmic tracks in a hard is 100% possible, and it seems like you're trying to stick to mapping to only vocal which is really unintuitive for playing. highly highly recommend you map to the drums as well but if you're sticking to what you want then i guess no matter how much more i type it wont change anything

tl;dr if you think sticking to your style is more important, then you really dont need to read this, which was why i said it was pointless to begin with

squishyguppy

1,256 posts

Joined March 2014

squishyguppy 2017-05-07T09:31:04+00:00

Emilia wrote:
i guess it might be better to explain my perspective

most hards i've seen contain consistent distance snap and covers the song fairly well in terms of rhythm choices. what i've been seeing in your map is rather distances that dont really make much sense with respect to the song and rhythm choices that arent very optimal for representing the song. here i think i can point out a few examples

distance:
00:01:763 (3,4,5) - not sure why there was a sudden increase in distance when nothing in the music was very indicative of anything worth emphasising. and yea, it does repeat itself, but that isnt a good enough way to justify yourself just because its repetitive and that its an "intended structure". it, in my opinion, really doesnt fit with the song in this case I would say since I'm vocal mapping identifying vocal phrases is pretty important when trying to create patterns and such, in this case I identified these two beat phrases being made by the vocalist in which an audible pitch increase happens at this point where the spacing increase occurs.
00:07:045 (4,5) - stack when 00:03:665 (4,5) - this isnt? i noticed that this repeats itself as well, but similarly to above, calling it a "structure" and justifying it is very meaningless, though its a lot milder in this case because its a stack which is applicable to hards this is a good point
00:01:129 (5,1) - it would probably be understandable if something like this was a jump instead, since the instruments are a strong lead in and are worthy of emphasis its a gradual spacing increased to show the progression being made by the vocalist
00:09:580 (1,2) - another needless massive jump pitch goes up here, also slider leniency technically reduces the strength of normative spacing so I increased this to show that effect
00:11:270 (1,2,3) - vs 00:24:791 (1,2,3) - perhaps require more "structured" consistency? I can adjust the spacing of the latter one to match the former

its more how your distances are randomly "structured" and you're just hiding behind that to make a "different" hard, and what is really the point of that? why go out of your way trying to rank a hard that can be made more consistent and simpler to a hard player? justifying anything by calling it structure seems to be too much of a cop out in my eyes
rhythm:
00:02:608 (6,1) - triplets are 100% allowed on hards, so why dont you map them? your whole map doesnt contain any triplets which makes the rhythm feel very very plain. why not just map them in anyways? just because you are permitted to use a certain rhythm does not require it.
00:14:228 (5) - as with here, you're mapping to both the instruments and vocals, so why not make it more consistent its a hold to highlight the 1/4 sounds that occur when there is vocal. Its similar to song in consistency so it can't be "consistent" to something that doesn't exist at all or yet.
00:03:665 (4) - vocals dont actually end here, its just trailing off at this point, so why not make the white tick a clickable drum beat instead? this is true for all parts with sliders like this. the movement I create with these are quite valueable and prove emphasis to the beats you think require clicking.

accommodating multiple rhythmic tracks in a hard is 100% possible, and it seems like you're trying to stick to mapping to only vocal which is really unintuitive for playing. highly highly recommend you map to the drums as well but if you're sticking to what you want then i guess no matter how much more i type it wont change anything
tl;dr if you think sticking to your style is more important, then you really dont need to read this, which was why i said it was pointless to begin with

sometimes it can be rude to call things random/pointless, but this was a much better approach to a mod than the thing you originally said. thanks for your thoughts and I appreciate your discussion!

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xLolicore-

636 posts

Joined June 2014

xLolicore- 2017-05-11T14:26:24+00:00

Eroge_master225 wrote:
00:13:172 (1) - remove NC hmmm nah

00:12:960 (5) - put NC here ^

I like this diff thank

also applied all mods from kaifin, emilia and monstrata

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Combo1 : 187,187,0
Combo2 : 39,114,14
Combo3 : 233,17,12
Combo4 : 0,92,185

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Last edited by xLolicore- 2017-06-10T14:10:17+00:00, edited 3 times in total.

pishifat

osu! Paragon

3,818 posts

Joined August 2013

pishifat 2017-05-25T00:38:36+00:00

replies

Kibbleru wrote:
holy pishi's diff is so infuriating to play on ar 8

8.5 now

Lucyyyyyyy wrote:

pishi's Extra:
This map is hard to read so maybe making the AR higher to like 8,4 or so, could make it abit better with that.( At testplaying AR was close to unreadable imo.)
All the triples like this one 00:02:820 (1,2,1) - should be changed in a more readable way, there are barely noticeable through visuals. Especially this one 00:27:960 (1,2,3,4,1) -

did both

zev wrote:
pishi
[*]00:02:820 (1,2) - drum-hitfinish for those cool here, cus r mapping the bass line leaving drum additions for 00:14:651 (1,2) - so they sounddifferenta aa
[*]00:06:834 (4) - x86 y240 remapped stuff so g

Kaifin wrote:
pishi's Extra
00:27:960 (1,2,3,4,1) - okay so you want the player to move like this:
SPOILER
but in reality the player moves like this:
SPOILER
so stacking 00:28:383 (1) - on 00:27:960 (1) - will both give you the flow you want and also have the map end in the center of the screen and u know thats just cute
SPOILER

alternatively you could have it stack on 00:28:172 (3) - but i think that would encourage a wiggle more than a circular movement which seems to be what you want

did the alt

Emilia wrote:
ok i try
[notice][pishi]
firstly not very fond of the idea of having an unintuitive "structure" (weirdly spaced triplets indicated by combo colours) for an anime <TVsize since its rather annoying to play, at least from the players perspective. it isnt really interesting in any visual sense and only incorporates awkward movement which isnt necessarily well reflected in that intensity of the song. now that we have that out of the way: fixed
suggest changing the green combo colour to something light as well, because i had to check the editor to see what they did in the map, since it deviated the original idea in my head that "light combo colour = weird spaced stream". pink now
also last i remembered fully 255,255,255 white isnt rankable only in kiai time
00:12:115 (1,2,1) - theres also actually no triplet here removed
00:23:946 (1,2,1) - also i can't tell if theres a triplet here because the drum might be overlapping with the "sh" in the vocal (which also actually only starts on white). also for your reference, the top diff of one of the ranked sets doesnt have a triplet at this point (if it matters) pretty sure there is one here

meh, sorry for being really unable to mod this objectively

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/751 ... tra%5D.osu
why wont you upload with the clickbait thumbnail

Dashyy-

752 posts

Joined May 2015

Dashyy- 2017-05-25T00:47:28+00:00

hi mod

Dash's Normal:

fix ur fukin volume lol!!!!!!!!!!!

Dashyy-

752 posts

Joined May 2015

Dashyy- 2017-05-25T00:53:07+00:00

Dashyy- wrote:
hi mod

Dash's Normal:

fix ur fukin volume lol!!!!!!!!!!! no fix

https://pastebin.com/9SB8QikF

Uber

141 posts

Joined May 2016

Topic Starter

Uber 2017-05-25T01:27:38+00:00

trying to make thumbnail jailbait

Hobbes2

osu! Alumni

2,253 posts

Joined March 2016

Hobbes2 2017-05-26T06:53:19+00:00

pishi diff was more fun at ar 8, I don't see how it was unreadable. It was okay for me even without combo colors. get gud tbh

remapped version is a lot of fun, and i guess its fine at ar 8.5 too. great map tbh

Strategas

1,394 posts

Joined July 2013

Strategas 2017-06-03T21:57:13+00:00

pishi
00:14:651 (1) - reads easier if no nc here, the white color is much easier to tell that it's the stream instead of the first time appearing new color

bor
00:22:890 (5,1) - 00:24:580 (5,1) - more spacing pls since strong sound, something like 00:21:411 (5,1) - would be cool
00:30:284 - end spinner here pls since the instrument ends here, and you need the extra time to make it rankable, it's below 30 seconds rn

Dash
00:09:580 (4,6) - you can easily avoid this unnecessary overlap if you just moved it down http://i.imgur.com/1D22ZVH.jpg
00:14:017 (5,6) - moving these more to the right would make your pattern look better http://i.imgur.com/ViRYyVQ.jpg
00:18:242 (1,2,3) - ds

Monstrata

Elite Mapper: Aspirant

4,661 posts

Joined May 2013

Monstrata 2017-06-04T04:09:25+00:00

pishi

00:22:256 (1,2,1,2,3,1) - Do something symmetrical here instead of copying the pattern again? That way you can transition from Left > center > Right and use more of the screen area. You had the right idea making 00:23:101 (1) - in the center.

~

00:28:277 (4,1) - This breaks flow and momentum xP. Take advantage of the momentum and do something like this instead:

~

Loli's Insane

00:05:989 (3,4,1) - Make 4>1 bigger than 3>4 smaller for better emphasis control
00:14:439 (4,5,1) - Make the spacing more even between 4>5 and 5>1?

ideas

bor's Hard

00:10:848 (4,5) - I wouldnt stack cuz of pitch change, and because you didnt stack earlier. do a triangle?
00:24:369 (4,5) - ^
00:26:481 (1) - Ctrl+G flows so nice tho

Dash's Normal

00:09:580 (4,6) - Can you avoid overlaps like this, makes the pattern feel unpolished

~

00:14:862 (1,2,3) - Not good. Your flow is counter intuitive to the way you've set up your pattern. 1>2 creates a clockwise motion going up and rightward, so 3 is in a very unexpected location, and the direction of 3 is also not very expected imo.
00:18:242 (1,2) - Spacing is inconsistent

Easy

00:02:186 (2,3) - Your visual spacing could be better. do stuff like 00:19:087 (2,3) - so the slider flows better coming out of the previous slider.
00:03:031 (3,1) - I'd really try to avoid this kind of set up because it creates a flowbreak betweem 3>1. your flow is going downward and maybe a bit leftward depending on the slidershape, but 1 is way to the left and requires a rightward movement so it doesn't fit the flow you set up with your sliders.
00:05:566 (2,3) - Same idea.

pishifat

osu! Paragon

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Joined August 2013

pishifat 2017-06-04T05:26:00+00:00

fix https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/751 ... tra%5D.osu

squishyguppy

1,256 posts

Joined March 2014

squishyguppy 2017-06-05T22:43:02+00:00

Strategas wrote:
bor

Monstrata wrote:
bor's Hard
00:26:481 (1) - Ctrl+G flows so nice tho subjective
I think it plays alright regardless plus if I ctrl g rip quadrant map

otherwise fix

https://bor.s-ul.eu/E5dctHkz.osu

Uber

141 posts

Joined May 2016

Topic Starter

Uber 2017-06-05T22:46:54+00:00

Monstrata wrote:
Easy

fixed all thank mr. monstrata

7ambda

2,599 posts

Joined January 2015

7ambda 2017-06-05T23:02:19+00:00

255,255,255 is unrankable. Use a dimmer white.

squishyguppy

1,256 posts

Joined March 2014

squishyguppy 2017-06-06T00:58:28+00:00

F1r3tar wrote:
255,255,255 is unrankable. Use a dimmer white.

Its only unrankable during kiai times, which there are no kiai times during this color so its rankable, pishi already explained this in an earlier post

7ambda

2,599 posts

Joined January 2015

7ambda 2017-06-06T02:06:02+00:00

borborygmos wrote:
Its only unrankable during kiai times, which there are no kiai times during this color so its rankable, pishi already explained this in an earlier post

o lol

Strategas

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Joined July 2013

Strategas 2017-06-14T07:13:53+00:00

ResidentSleeper

Dashyy-

752 posts

Joined May 2015

Dashyy- 2017-06-14T17:20:42+00:00

where's the bubble

Strategas

1,394 posts

Joined July 2013

Strategas 2017-06-14T17:41:23+00:00

I think you forgot to respond to mods along with someone

_Meep_

1,725 posts

Joined April 2014

_Meep_ 2017-06-14T17:55:08+00:00

wheres the nuke

Dashyy-

752 posts

Joined May 2015

Dashyy- 2017-06-14T18:06:28+00:00

ok fixed all

Uber

141 posts

Joined May 2016

Topic Starter

Uber 2017-06-14T18:36:30+00:00

not sure who this "other person" is lol maybe you didn't see but lolicore edited his responce and applied changes

Strategas

1,394 posts

Joined July 2013

Strategas 2017-06-14T21:16:21+00:00

lol, who even does that, that's like hella inpractical

anyways, seems like mods were applied so you should call back monstrata, before I can icon

xLolicore-

636 posts

Joined June 2014

xLolicore- 2017-06-14T21:54:57+00:00

kinda breaks the purpose of a placeholder wouldn't it lo
yea anyway i did apply all the mods in one go

Monstrata

Elite Mapper: Aspirant

4,661 posts

Joined May 2013

Monstrata 2017-06-22T04:09:44+00:00

Lolicore's GD isn't updated cuz he edited a post he made a month ago and put his update there...?

@ Lolicore post your update in a new post please, don't edit a previous post from 28 days ago and expect the mapper to recheck that post and update your diff there...

Uber

141 posts

Joined May 2016

Topic Starter

Uber 2017-06-22T14:12:27+00:00

well he actually messaged me ingame i just kinda forgot to apply the update i guess lolz

updated now!

Monstrata

Elite Mapper: Aspirant

4,661 posts

Joined May 2013

Monstrata 2017-07-06T06:54:48+00:00

Remind me harder xd

-Kazuto

345 posts

Joined October 2013

-Kazuto 2017-07-06T13:03:28+00:00

Step Zero to One :3c:

_Meep_

1,725 posts

Joined April 2014

_Meep_ 2017-07-06T13:04:27+00:00

step one to negative 99

Strategas

1,394 posts

Joined July 2013

Strategas 2017-07-07T09:46:56+00:00

normal

00:20:566 (6,1) - ds, looks like 1/2 gap by time distance equality

Dashyy-

752 posts

Joined May 2015

Dashyy- 2017-07-07T15:06:44+00:00

looks ugly but i did it!!!!!!!!

Strategas

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Strategas 2017-07-07T15:14:04+00:00

00:24:158 (2,3) - normal

Dashyy-

752 posts

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Dashyy- 2017-07-07T15:39:27+00:00

looks ugly but i did it!!!!!!!!

Strategas

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Strategas 2017-07-07T18:29:13+00:00

!!!!!!!!ti did i tub ylgu skool

RockStyle

40 posts

Joined December 2016

RockStyle 2017-07-07T19:52:07+00:00

Easy diff:
00:00:284 (1) - sounds starts a bit earlier
00:06:411 (3) - idk if this is intended but it doesnt end on the vocal but nearly every other slider does so this is kinda weird
00:09:791 (3) - this aswell, like she says 'ngo but when it ends the slider begins ?
o0:19:932 (3) - this also doesnt end on the vocal which is also weird
00:26:481 (1) - maybe make this one tick shorter so it also fits the rythm and is better to play
00:13:172 (2) - 00:13:594 (3) - 00:14:017 (4) - these three fit to the music but there is no point in puting them in the middle the song doesnt change

Uber

141 posts

Joined May 2016

Topic Starter

Uber 2017-07-07T20:01:51+00:00

RockStyle wrote:
Easy diff:
00:00:284 (1) - sounds starts a bit earlier timing is fine lol
00:06:411 (3) - idk if this is intended but it doesnt end on the vocal but nearly every other slider does so this is kinda weird but all of my wave sliders like this one don't end on a vocal
00:09:791 (3) - this aswell, like she says 'ngo but when it ends the slider begins ? want the bell sound to be clickable
o0:19:932 (3) - this also doesnt end on the vocal which is also weird same
00:26:481 (1) - maybe make this one tick shorter so it also fits the rythm and is better to play imo the kick there is more important than the red tick prior so I ended the slider there
00:13:172 (2) - 00:13:594 (3) - 00:14:017 (4) - these three fit to the music but there is no point in puting them in the middle the song doesnt change
it's the climax of the song there and I thought placing those objects center screen complemented it nicely

Last edited by Uber 2017-07-09T00:07:42+00:00, edited 2 times in total.

_Meep_

1,725 posts

Joined April 2014

_Meep_ 2017-07-07T20:23:37+00:00

dq!
dq!
dq!
stop loli from having ranked map!!
jks

Kyouren

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Joined October 2012

Kyouren 2017-07-07T23:56:12+00:00

Congrulations!

booty

225 posts

Joined July 2014

booty 2017-07-08T00:50:12+00:00

god is dead

-Kazuto

345 posts

Joined October 2013

-Kazuto 2017-07-08T02:19:45+00:00

_Meep_ wrote:
dq!
dq!
dq!
stop loli from having ranked map!!
jks

lcfc

813 posts

Joined October 2015

lcfc 2017-07-08T09:10:10+00:00

My apologies, but I have found some issues that are a must to be fixed on this map.

mod

The insane difficulty has a big unrankable issue. It is made by the user "xLolicore-", something that definitely must not occur under any circumstances. Therefore, I am requesting a DQ this instant to save the meta of mapping. gratz btw

Uber

141 posts

Joined May 2016

Topic Starter

Uber 2017-07-08T15:30:45+00:00

LowComboFC wrote:
My apologies, but I have found some issues that are a must to be fixed on this map.

The insane difficulty has a big unrankable issue. It is made by the user "xLolicore-", something that definitely must not occur under any circumstances. Therefore, I am requesting a DQ this instant to save the meta of mapping. gratz btw

its my style

Xinely

5,014 posts

Joined April 2012

Xinely 2017-07-08T16:09:51+00:00

just saying for your next project, easy diff OD is quite high with 4. usually easy has 2 or 3 OD

-Kazuto

345 posts

Joined October 2013

-Kazuto 2017-07-08T16:39:57+00:00

Also, for next project, remember to tag person that the diff name isn't thr same with the user name, for ex: xLolicore- with the diff name Loli's insane, add Loli to the tags. Thanks

lit120

3,276 posts

Joined August 2013

lit120 2017-07-08T17:03:01+00:00

ANOTHER ONE!!!

but something's not right...

[general]

hitsounds aren't rly right based on the song as it has provided its beat. tbh when i tried to review the reason why u did this and that based on the hitsound, i couldn't get any reason why you did it as well. example (using loli's insane for this), 00:04:721 (1) - is no sense using finish hitsound here, since it's just a bell sound, that doesn't emphasize any downbeat there. and then, triplets like 00:07:679 (7,8) - are normal sampleset, but why 00:07:045 (4,5) - isn't? makes no sense and difference at all to me tbh
about all diffs when it comes to hitsounds, they aren't consistent. srsly
considering to have a silent slider on sliders if u have those in 00:00:284 - to 00:01:341 - on each diffs

[uber]

Xinely's post about OD (well for next time)
00:04:298 - this feels so sad to have a beat with no note to click by its snare. i admit that 00:03:031 (3) - is ok since this slider makes sense enough for me. but how about adding a note there wouldn't making it lonely? there are other cases like 00:07:679 - , 00:12:749 - and the rests as well
00:11:481 (1,2,3,4) - think about the note suggestion here http://puu.sh/wEHKu/22a17e046a.jpg . it follows well on both vocal and instrument
00:14:862 (1,3) - overlapping here would make the visual in editor view (not in gameplay, but this happens sometime in mapping) a bit sad to see, since the rhythm of the start here looks the same as 00:01:341 - , but not overlapped to each other
00:25:848 - should be clickable here. it's fine for leaving a gap of 3/2 beat in Easy diffs ya know
00:26:481 (1) - ok for the ending part, this looks ok, but i'd set 00:27:538 - as an clickable object before the song is about to end, so try to set the slider end to 00:27:115 - at least

[dash]

NCs could be worked on better here next time, but this time, let's see... 00:11:270 (8) - could work as an NC based on an emphasize vocal well here, and then 00:13:172 (3) - for NC since it's an intense part. 00:23:735 (1) - remove NC, then 00:24:791 (4) - NC, since the emphasize keeps on going starting on red tick
can't tell if that diff settings are intentional or what, but i'd set the AR to 5 for that next time. CS is ok for me
00:00:284 (1,2) - too sudden to have the intro part like this for Normal diff. would suggest to have 3/2 slider instead
00:28:172 - no note? it'd be better to have one for such an intense part before the song is about to end

[bor]

that AR jumps the gap of Normal and Insae there and doesn't balanced it well imo. could've set it to 7 there at least
oh the HP as well. should be 6 for that. it isn't that hard though, but Insane diff executes the HP setting well based on how its play

[loli]

00:13:066 (6) - this is overmapped. same goes to 00:21:517 (8) - 00:24:052 (3) -
00:17:820 (4) - personally, i'd just avoid the overlap here and stack at 00:16:552 (1) - head for an emphasize with the instrument well
00:19:827 (5) - usually you would add a note here as a triplet, since i could hear sth that supports the song well, but u didn't
00:26:059 (6) - this clearly is different from 00:24:369 (5,6) - as it should be clickable
00:27:960 (1,2,3,4,5) - would recommend to have the stream spacing a bit wider for the ending part

-Kazuto wrote:
Also, for next project, remember to tag person that the diff name isn't thr same with the user name, for ex: xLolicore- with the diff name Loli's insane, add Loli to the tags. Thanks

it's not really an issue. really

Dashyy-

752 posts

Joined May 2015

Dashyy- 2017-07-08T18:03:12+00:00

lit120 wrote:
[dash]
NCs could be worked on better here next time, but this time, let's see... 00:11:270 (8) - could work as an NC based on an emphasize vocal well here, and then 00:13:172 (3) - for NC since it's an intense part. 00:23:735 (1) - remove NC, then 00:24:791 (4) - NC, since the emphasize keeps on going starting on red tick did one for the intense section
can't tell if that diff settings are intentional or what, but i'd set the AR to 5 for that next time. CS is ok for me ok
00:00:284 (1,2) - too sudden to have the intro part like this for Normal diff. would suggest to have 3/2 slider instead the people who playtested it/played it while qualified didn't seem to have a problem with this + wanted to have a nice skill gap between uber and bor
00:28:172 - no note? it'd be better to have one for such an intense part before the song is about to end wanted to give players enough time to recognize that a spinner is coming

Last edited by Dashyy- 2017-07-08T23:56:16+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Uber

141 posts

Joined May 2016

Topic Starter

Uber 2017-07-08T20:47:39+00:00

lit120 wrote:
ANOTHER ONE!!!

but something's not right...

[general]
hitsounds aren't rly right based on the song as it has provided its beat. tbh when i tried to review the reason why u did this and that based on the hitsound, i couldn't get any reason why you did it as well. example (using loli's insane for this), 00:04:721 (1) - is no sense using finish hitsound here, since it's just a bell sound, that doesn't emphasize any downbeat there. and then, triplets like 00:07:679 (7,8) - are normal sampleset, but why 00:07:045 (4,5) - isn't? makes no sense and difference at all to me tbh
about all diffs when it comes to hitsounds, they aren't consistent. srsly
considering to have a silent slider on sliders if u have those in 00:00:284 - to 00:01:341 - on each diffs
I just copied hitsounds from pishi's to all diffs
[uber]
Xinely's post about OD (well for next time) I guess it's too high altho don't think its a big deal especially considering there is only 4 circles lol
00:04:298 - this feels so sad to have a beat with no note to click by its snare. i admit that 00:03:031 (3) - is ok since this slider makes sense enough for me. but how about adding a note there wouldn't making it lonely? there are other cases like 00:07:679 - , 00:12:749 - and the rests as well Want there to be a break in objects after every held vocal sound
00:11:481 (1,2,3,4) - think about the note suggestion here http://puu.sh/wEHKu/22a17e046a.jpg . it follows well on both vocal and instrument same
00:14:862 (1,3) - overlapping here would make the visual in editor view (not in gameplay, but this happens sometime in mapping) a bit sad to see, since the rhythm of the start here looks the same as 00:01:341 - , but not overlapped to each other Yea, would be better if the overlap wasnt there altho I don't think its a big deal
00:25:848 - should be clickable here. it's fine for leaving a gap of 3/2 beat in Easy diffs ya know same
00:26:481 (1) - ok for the ending part, this looks ok, but i'd set 00:27:538 - as an clickable object before the song is about to end, so try to set the slider end to 00:27:115 - at least upon reconsideration actually like this better ye

Last edited by Uber 2017-07-09T00:30:36+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

squishyguppy

1,256 posts

Joined March 2014

squishyguppy 2017-07-08T22:03:12+00:00

lit120 wrote:
[bor]
that AR jumps the gap of Normal and Insae there and doesn't balanced it well imo. could've set it to 7 there at least
oh the HP as well. should be 6 for that. it isn't that hard though, but Insane diff executes the HP setting well based on how its play

yeah can the hp be 4.5 on my diff
and the AR 6.5
(also OD 6 lol)
uber pls do

pishifat

osu! Paragon

3,818 posts

Joined August 2013

pishifat 2017-07-08T22:13:18+00:00

uber's changing stuff

Uber

141 posts

Joined May 2016

Topic Starter

Uber 2017-07-08T22:14:47+00:00

how do you hitsound

Yuii-

2,501 posts

Joined July 2013

Yuii- 2017-07-08T23:16:05+00:00

RockStyle's mod wasn't properly replied. Saying "subjective" does not explain your points in a proper way.
May you please address it again?

xLolicore-

636 posts

Joined June 2014

xLolicore- 2017-07-09T00:11:27+00:00

Will have a look through lit120's mod soon. Not home rn to address these issues

lit120

3,276 posts

Joined August 2013

lit120 2017-07-09T03:12:05+00:00

Want me to do a proper hitsounds?

squishyguppy

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Joined March 2014

squishyguppy 2017-07-09T03:15:28+00:00

lit120 wrote:
Want me to do a proper hitsounds?

us gders can't do the hitsounds cuz the rules :/

lit120

3,276 posts

Joined August 2013

lit120 2017-07-09T03:16:57+00:00

borborygmos wrote:
lit120 wrote:
Want me to do a proper hitsounds?
us gders can't do the hitsounds cuz the rules :/

What "rules"?

Dashyy-

752 posts

Joined May 2015

Dashyy- 2017-07-09T03:31:11+00:00

lit120 wrote:
Want me to do a proper hitsounds?

dw i fixed it we good

Xinely

5,014 posts

Joined April 2012

Xinely 2017-07-09T08:51:34+00:00

since its dq'ed there is something bothered me while i saw this map

00:09:369 (3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1) - on normal the rhyhtms are quite long, i think its quite hard because no recover time more than 3 secs while the easy is like beginner diff at all. 00:12:960 (2) - i would say remove this would be enough to keep the rhythm spread

00:27:960 (2) - also for easy, missing normal sampleset

xLolicore-

636 posts

Joined June 2014

xLolicore- 2017-07-09T13:41:24+00:00

Fixed all, Uber pls fix hitsounds thx

update

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TitleUnicode:春待ちクローバー
Artist:Hanasaka Yui(CV: M.A.O)
ArtistUnicode:花坂結衣(CV：Ｍ・Ａ・Ｏ)
Creator:Uber
Version:Loli's Insane
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lit120

3,276 posts

Joined August 2013

lit120 2017-07-09T18:08:22+00:00

Xinely wrote:
00:09:369 (3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1) - on normal the rhyhtms are quite long, i think its quite hard because no recover time more than 3 secs while the easy is like beginner diff at all. 00:12:960 (2) - i would say remove this would be enough to keep the rhythm spread

more like "Advanced" diff ish i have to say. agreed on this

Uber

141 posts

Joined May 2016

Topic Starter

Uber 2017-07-09T18:24:24+00:00

k hitsounding fixed (i think), placement changes made for easy, normal, and insane, difficulties settings changed, and properly responded to other mods

lit120

3,276 posts

Joined August 2013

lit120 2017-07-10T03:00:59+00:00

Uber wrote:
k hitsounding fixed (i think), placement changes made for easy, normal, and insane, difficulties settings changed, and properly responded to other mods

Why not responding it properly on new post instead?

Uber

141 posts

Joined May 2016

Topic Starter

Uber 2017-07-10T04:55:26+00:00

lit120 wrote:
Uber wrote:
k hitsounding fixed (i think), placement changes made for easy, normal, and insane, difficulties settings changed, and properly responded to other mods
Why not responding it properly on new post instead?

don't really see the point i can do it if you want lolz

-Kazuto

345 posts

Joined October 2013

-Kazuto 2017-07-11T14:02:01+00:00

Don't forget add "Loli" to tags

xLolicore-

636 posts

Joined June 2014

xLolicore- 2017-07-11T17:11:04+00:00

^ ???????

lit120

3,276 posts

Joined August 2013

lit120 2017-07-11T17:31:18+00:00

-Kazuto wrote:
Don't forget add "Loli" to tags

Like i said, that's not rly necessary

Uber

141 posts

Joined May 2016

Topic Starter

Uber 2017-07-11T18:12:32+00:00

-Kazuto wrote:
Don't forget add "Loli" to tags

don't think loli makes sense as a tag cause of all the other maps that will pop up from the search function if you type that and in-game it's already covered cause 'loli' fits in xlolicore-

Monstrata

Elite Mapper: Aspirant

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Joined May 2013

Monstrata 2017-07-16T22:31:04+00:00

Rebub

Strategas

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