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KikuoHana - Nobore! Susume! Takai Tou

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_handholding
3,109 posts
Joined April 2014
_handholding
This note 04:00:700 (5) wasn't here when I first dl'd the map. How come you added it in? i think it's better to take it out because of the fact there is no sound here and not having a clickable object here plays better towards the song imo.
Also blankets?? 04:06:753 (2) - 04:07:844 (4) -
Also Also, you have a few objects unsnapped. You can open ai mod to check them
Nathan
2,161 posts
Joined August 2014
Nathan
cool
Karen
2,874 posts
Joined August 2013
Topic Starter
Karen

Kisses wrote:

This note 04:00:700 (5) wasn't here when I first dl'd the map. How come you added it in? i think it's better to take it out because of the fact there is no sound here and not having a clickable object here plays better towards the song imo.
Also blankets?? 04:06:753 (2) - 04:07:844 (4) -
Also Also, you have a few objects unsnapped. You can open ai mod to check them
thanks for your feedback, the map is still wip and i'll rework some patterns
Lavender
Beatmap Nominator
892 posts
Joined January 2014
Lavender
小夏恋已经这么强了
Kaifin
745 posts
Joined April 2013
Kaifin


one of my favorite maps this year by far

testplay + suggestion chatlog
22:00 Karen: HI!!
22:00 Karen: could you testplay my map? o.o
22:00 Kaifin: hello
22:00 Kaifin: sure
22:00 Kaifin: i just got home though so im a little cold
22:01 *Karen is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1121504 Hanatan - Nobore! Susume! Takaitou]
22:01 Karen: it's ok
22:01 Karen: easy map for you
22:06 Kaifin: WOW
22:06 Kaifin: super cool
22:06 Karen: holy
22:06 Kaifin: im not sure what happened for me to drop acc on the last stream lol
22:07 Karen: !!
22:07 Karen: super pro
22:07 Karen: i thought the last streams are too hard
22:07 Kaifin: very cool map
22:08 Kaifin: the hardest part of the stream is stopping for 05:09:143 (1,2,3) -
22:08 Karen: thank you xd
22:08 Kaifin: the stacked stop makes it very hard
22:08 Kaifin: cause you have to jump fast from 05:09:037 (8,1) - then stop
22:08 Karen: yea but it fits the music here
22:08 Kaifin: yes
22:08 Kaifin: im just letting you know
22:09 Karen: :D
22:09 Karen: any other suggestions?
22:09 Kaifin: hit you with the favourite
22:10 Karen: i'm too noob to play this
22:10 Kaifin: that one part at 700x~
22:10 Kaifin: let me see if i can find
22:10 Kaifin: i got like 9 100s in a row there
22:10 Kaifin: couldnt read that properly
22:10 Kaifin: the rest was fine to read though
22:11 Karen: 02:47:178 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - maybe this one?
22:11 Kaifin: imo that plays fine
22:12 Kaifin: i know it kind of ruins the square but if you move 02:47:812 (1,2,1) - to the left a little, it plays a lot better
22:12 Kaifin: something like this
22:12 Kaifin: http://puu.sh/s9ddL/9ff6666eb4.jpg
22:12 Kaifin: its very linear as is
22:12 Karen: o sure, i was going to rework this part
22:13 Kaifin: oh okay :D
22:14 Karen: how about this one? 03:00:700 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) -
22:14 Karen: is it harder or easier compared to the previous one
22:14 Kaifin: i'd call it harder, because the movement from 03:00:805 (2,1) - being less sharp makes it harder
22:15 Kaifin: if you bring them up a bit more like this imo it flows better
22:15 Kaifin: http://puu.sh/s9do1/1ba5099305.jpg
22:16 Kaifin: something like that
22:17 Karen: yes, fixed this
22:17 Kaifin: okok
22:17 Karen: 03:54:784 (2,3,4,5) - btw you missed these notes, what's the problem here?
22:19 Kaifin: the problem is i suck :D
22:19 Kaifin: i just was cold and hit too early by accident
22:20 Karen: lol okay
22:20 Karen: anything else? o.o
22:20 Kaifin: nope
22:21 Karen: w
22:21 Karen: thank you for the feedback
22:21 Karen: super useful
22:21 Kaifin: no problem :D

take my stars
Karen
2,874 posts
Joined August 2013
Topic Starter
Karen
WOW
Thank you so much!! glad you like it c:

sukiNathan wrote:

cool
nene
Azure
771 posts
Joined November 2010
Azure
stress :o
不是很會用初始音效 所以 (ry

重新改過音效的，麻煩你了~
osu.
Garden
Beatmap Nominator
1,369 posts
Joined June 2013
Garden
Expert
  1. check aimod
  2. 00:28:798 (1,1,1) - 00:49:080 (1,1,1) - 考虑whistle?
  3. 01:12:530 (5) - 01:15:911 (5) - 01:19:291 (2) - 感觉上是比较独立的梗要不要nc一下
  4. 01:14:221 (5) - 这个应该和 01:10:840 (1) - 一样nc吧
  5. 01:32:812 (1,2,3,4) - 打图角度个人建议这四个以1为中心再顺时针转一点点
  6. 02:44:221 (5,6) - 两个都ctrl-g? 从1234一个flow绕过来比较好打，往下一甩的有可能提早读图4按不到
  7. 03:04:925 - 或许考虑这里再burst一下kiai
  8. 04:10:026 (1) - 感觉头尾也加上normalwhistle听上去效果更好
  9. 04:49:706 (1,1,1,1) - 去掉kiai?
  10. 05:05:340 (5,6,7,8) - 这里怎么忽然没弧度了啊，和这段有点不搭调，如果是打算弄直的话再搞个滑条调整下看上去不够直
  11. 05:09:143 (1,2,3) - 感觉会刹不住车.. 手动把那个朝下的自动stack搞成往上的可能看起来比较舒服->大概这感觉
  12. 05:09:143 (1,2) - 这两个换drumclap? 同 03:17:812 (6,7,8) - 的效果
Azure
  1. 00:42:108 (1) - 这个是打算滑条头和3,4对称吗，需要稍微调整下位置
  2. 01:41:897 - 这里背景里还是有音，5%不太好吧
  3. 02:06:192 (8,9) - 或许可以试试->https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6564919，891直线减距离感觉不太顺手
  4. 02:10:418 (1) - 感觉这个是独立的梗，02:10:840 (2) - 这里加个nc
  5. 02:30:700 (6,1) - 这个stack搞得前面三连看上去有点歪，可以微调一下
  6. 02:56:685 (2,4) - 不overlap比较符合这段整体
  7. 03:09:573 (3,4,1) - 间距大概是放错了
  8. 03:30:700 (4,5) - 微调一下不碰到
  9. 04:47:171 - 音效下到滑条身上啦
  10. 04:56:467 (1,2,3,4) - vocal音调升高考虑加大这里间距
两个难度都很好玩1111
Karen
2,874 posts
Joined August 2013
Topic Starter
Karen

Garden wrote:

Expert
  1. 04:10:026 (1) - 感觉头尾也加上normalwhistle听上去效果更好 尾巴静音感觉比较好，头上的加了
  2. 05:09:143 (1,2,3) - 感觉会刹不住车.. 手动把那个朝下的自动stack搞成往上的可能看起来比较舒服->大概这感觉 换了个比较舒服的方向
其他全部都改了，非常感谢。
Azure
771 posts
Joined November 2010
Azure

Garden wrote:

Azure
  1. 00:42:108 (1) - 这个是打算滑条头和3,4对称吗，需要稍微调整下位置 雖然重新調了但還是覺得歪歪的 (ry
  2. 01:41:897 - 这里背景里还是有音，5%不太好吧 嗯，還是留著聲音好
  3. 02:06:192 (8,9) - 或许可以试试->[url]https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/656491[[/url]，891直线减距离感觉不太顺手 這裡我自己再打的時候也覺得怪怪的，這樣不錯
  4. 02:10:418 (1) - 感觉这个是独立的梗，02:10:840 (2) - 这里加个nc k
  5. 02:30:700 (6,1) - 这个stack搞得前面三连看上去有点歪，可以微调一下 雖然不太懂意思，但姑且還是調了 (????)
  6. 02:56:685 (2,4) - 不overlap比较符合这段整体 k
  7. 03:09:573 (3,4,1) - 间距大概是放错了對XD
  8. 03:30:700 (4,5) - 微调一下不碰到 k
  9. 04:47:171 - 音效下到滑条身上啦 好聽力!!
  10. 04:56:467 (1,2,3,4) - vocal音调升高考虑加大这里间距 加是加了但好像加的太過分惹 (


两个难度都很好玩1111
謝謝你，全都改了~ :)

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pkhg
2,507 posts
Joined May 2010
pkhg
[Expert]
  1. increase the od a bit? its the same as Insane right now
  2. 00:15:383 (1) - ctrl g?
  3. 00:18:763 (1) - the slider should end on the red tick 00:19:080 -
  4. 00:46:756 (2) - nc maybe? its more readable with a different combo color. like you did here 01:07:038 (1) -
  5. since 01:16:122 (2) - is stacked on the next slider's head wouldnt make sense to stack 01:16:544 (4) - on 01:15:911 (1) - this slider's head?
  6. 01:30:488 (2,3,4,5,6,2,3,4,5,6) - would be cool if they were perfectly curved
  7. 01:32:178 (2,3,1) - autostack ruins this pattern. enable stacking on editor to check it
  8. 01:46:967 (1,2) - i dont get why are they stacked
  9. 02:57:953 (6) - 2 circles works better imo. the music on its tail has the same intensity as its head
  10. 04:00:700 (1) - you better delete this. theres literally nothing here but silence
[Azure's Insane]
  1. hp is higher than karen's diff. is that intentional?
  2. 00:48:657 (2) - ctrl+g helps to not break here lol
  3. 00:49:714 (1,2) - this plays weird cuz theyre too close each other. increase the spacing more like you did with 00:29:432 (1,2) - it plays way better
  4. 00:51:826 (2,3) - ctrl+g here works better rhythm wise. right now youre making the blue tick clickable with the sliderhead which doesnt really have something really important as the red and white tick around it
  5. 01:02:812 (1) - do it like karen and make that cymbal clickable. slidertails dont give enough emphasis to such a strong beat
  6. 01:12:742 (1,2) - 01:16:122 (1,2) - 01:19:291 (1,2) - http://puu.sh/siLMX/4cd09c9713.jpg this works better. same reason as above
  7. 01:28:587 (5) - nc maybe?
  8. 02:09:995 (7,8,1) - autostack kinda ruins this pattern. try stacking it manually like http://puu.sh/siM4m/320df6055b.jpg
tricky
Karen
2,874 posts
Joined August 2013
Topic Starter
Karen

pkhg wrote:

[Expert]
  1. increase the od a bit? its the same as Insane right now increased to 8.5
  2. 00:15:383 (1) - ctrl g? that would make the stacking pattern too easy
  3. 00:18:763 (1) - the slider should end on the red tick 00:19:080 -
  4. 00:46:756 (2) - nc maybe? its more readable with a different combo color. like you did here 01:07:038 (1) -
  5. since 01:16:122 (2) - is stacked on the next slider's head wouldnt make sense to stack 01:16:544 (4) - on 01:15:911 (1) - this slider's head? this 01:16:122 (2,3) - stack was made to emphasize the slider head, not for the stack itself
  6. 01:30:488 (2,3,4,5,6,2,3,4,5,6) - would be cool if they were perfectly curved
  7. 01:32:178 (2,3,1) - autostack ruins this pattern. enable stacking on editor to check it
  8. 01:46:967 (1,2) - i dont get why are they stacked here's special sound orz
  9. 02:57:953 (6) - 2 circles works better imo. the music on its tail has the same intensity as its head it's for consistency with 02:44:432 (6) - and i want to keep circle*4 + slider*2, it's much easier to read and play, making random doubles would be too evil
  10. 04:00:700 (1) - you better delete this. theres literally nothing here but silence deleted the previous circle as well
tricky
no commented = fixed
thank you very much!
Lami
1,756 posts
Joined June 2011
Lami

pkhg wrote:

tricky
[Azure's Insane]

00:36:192 (7,1) - hmm..swap NC?
00:48:657 (2) - consider to ctrl+G as comfortable readability
01:44:854 (3,1) - hmm.. i guess swap NC more fit with music and partten(DS).
02:02:390 (6) - NC?
02:14:221 (5) - nc?
03:07:038 (3,4,5) - nazi DS
03:37:038 (8) - nc as regular previous nc cycle
03:50:347 (8,1) - maybe increase DS better as kinda strong beat music
04:46:748 (6,7) - decrease DS? feel so huge, compare with others.
05:03:650 (5) - NC?
04:53:931 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - need to consider to change diff naming 'extra', instead of 'insane'
this partten pretty harder for me, than normal over 5.6 stars map.


[Expert]

01:34:502 (3) - speed up sv?
01:46:967 (1,2) - maybe, it have more better way than stacking.
i know that these 2 beat have some different sound in here.
but stacking don't give good feedback well in strong beat.
01:53:939 (1) - one circle better as 01:50:559 (1,1) - , or 01:54:784 (7) -
because they are just circle, in finish sound.
02:10:312 (2) - NC? as change beat
03:10:840 (5) - NC? like 02:30:277 (1) -
03:40:418 (1,2,3,4,5) - better choice if you keep consistent DS with 03:43:798 (1,2,3,4,5) -
04:00:594 (8) - if more follow music, consider to remove 04:00:594 (8) - like previous rhythm usage.
04:55:093 (4,5) - i'd like some trick in here, as 04:54:248 (4,1) -
Karen
2,874 posts
Joined August 2013
Topic Starter
Karen

Lami wrote:

[Expert]

01:34:502 (3) - speed up sv? not really needed
01:46:967 (1,2) - maybe, it have more better way than stacking.
i know that these 2 beat have some different sound in here.
but stacking don't give good feedback well in strong beat. adjusted a bit
01:53:939 (1) - one circle better as 01:50:559 (1,1) - , or 01:54:784 (7) -
because they are just circle, in finish sound.
02:10:312 (2) - NC? as change beat
03:10:840 (5) - NC? like 02:30:277 (1) -
03:40:418 (1,2,3,4,5) - better choice if you keep consistent DS with 03:43:798 (1,2,3,4,5) -
04:00:594 (8) - if more follow music, consider to remove 04:00:594 (8) - like previous rhythm usage. i don't see any readon, this part is totally different
04:55:093 (4,5) - i'd like some trick in here, as 04:54:248 (4,1) - it's consistent with 04:56:044 (5) - xd, don't want to make this too hard
thanks.
Stjpa
901 posts
Joined July 2013
Stjpa
If you are into weird stuff from Hanatan, I have Asasan Yorusan in my graveyard. Feel free to take it if I can make a GD. :^)

[Azure]
  1. Why that high HP? You have ridiculous patterns that are not even recommended for this kind of difficulty. Also, the HP on Expert is lower as well lol.
  2. 00:36:087 (6) - What's the purpose of this overmapped circle? I don't hear anything there and imo it ruins the emphasize (7) could have.
  3. 00:42:108 (1) - It bothers me that this slider overlaps with (4) but it doesn't with (3), looks a bit messy and unstructured.
  4. 00:48:446 (1,2,3,4) - Do you mind spacing them a bit more? Unlike the other patterns before this one is pretty hard to read and the slider that goes into the different directions makes it pretty harsh for this difficulty level.
  5. 00:49:714 (1,2) - Weird that you are not spacing them like you did 00:29:432 (1,2) - here.
  6. 01:33:130 (4,1,2) - Shaped streams should be used really carefully in diffs below Extra, but in this case you don't only have a back'n'forth thingy that is already really controversial but you also use spacing that makes it way too harsh.
  7. 04:53:931 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - I'm completely against this pattern, but it'd be borderline fine if you at least nerf the pattern and make it similar to the next streamjump section with a lot less spacing. Right now it's even harder than in the Extra diff. >_>
[Ex]
  1. 02:17:178 (6) - Might as well use a NC here if you already used one 02:10:312 (1) - here?
  2. 00:43:798 (6,7,8,9) - Idk I dislike them because you have normal spaced patterns 00:45:277 (5,6,7) - here.
Call me back.
Karen
2,874 posts
Joined August 2013
Topic Starter
Karen

Stjpa wrote:

If you are into weird stuff from Hanatan, I have Asasan Yorusan in my graveyard. Feel free to take it if I can make a GD. :^) oh wow that's a cool song, i might map once i have good ideas for it? but lazy to make a set :c

[Ex]
  1. 02:17:178 (6) - Might as well use a NC here if you already used one 02:10:312 (1) - here? yes
  2. 00:43:798 (6,7,8,9) - Idk I dislike them because you have normal spaced patterns 00:45:277 (5,6,7) - here. changed 00:45:277 (5,6,7) - this instead >_>
Call me back.
thank you!
Azure
771 posts
Joined November 2010
Azure
SPOILER

pkhg wrote:

[Azure's Insane]
  1. hp is higher than karen's diff. is that intentional?I didn't notice about this :? fixed it
  2. 00:48:657 (2) - ctrl+g helps to not break here lol ok
  3. 00:49:714 (1,2) - this plays weird cuz theyre too close each other. increase the spacing more like you did with 00:29:432 (1,2) - it plays way better you're right, I adjusted it to another side x100 y344
  4. 00:51:826 (2,3) - ctrl+g here works better rhythm wise. right now youre making the blue tick clickable with the sliderhead which doesnt really have something really important as the red and white tick around it no.. it's same as 00:53:566 and it's parallel
  5. 01:02:812 (1) - do it like karen and make that cymbal clickable. slidertails dont give enough emphasis to such a strong beat no.. i want to make it compared with the following part, so put a slow slider and ended on red tick.
  6. 01:12:742 (1,2) - 01:16:122 (1,2) - 01:19:291 (1,2) - http://puu.sh/siLMX/4cd09c9713.jpg this works better. same reason as above
    no.. I'm mean to do this
  7. 01:28:587 (5) - nc maybe?k
  8. 02:09:995 (7,8,1) - autostack kinda ruins this pattern. try stacking it manually like http://puu.sh/siM4m/320df6055b.jpg k
tricky

SPOILER

Lami wrote:

[Azure's Insane]

00:36:192 (7,1) - hmm..swap NC?
00:48:657 (2) - consider to ctrl+G as comfortable readability
01:44:854 (3,1) - hmm.. i guess swap NC more fit with music and partten(DS).
02:02:390 (6) - NC?
02:14:221 (5) - nc?
03:07:038 (3,4,5) - nazi DS what..? it's same with 03:05:559 :?
03:37:038 (8) - nc as regular previous nc cycle
03:50:347 (8,1) - maybe increase DS better as kinda strong beat music no I followed the vocal here and stack looks better
04:46:748 (6,7) - decrease DS? feel so huge, compare with others.
05:03:650 (5) - NC?
04:53:931 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - need to consider to change diff naming 'extra', instead of 'insane'
this partten pretty harder for me, than normal over 5.6 stars map. it's up to Karen :?
others are fixed, thank you

SPOILER

Stjpa wrote:

[Azure]
  1. Why that high HP? You have ridiculous patterns that are not even recommended for this kind of difficulty. Also, the HP on Expert is lower as well lol. yes, I fixed that
  2. 00:36:087 (6) - What's the purpose of this overmapped circle? I don't hear anything there and imo it ruins the emphasize (7) could have. ok, deleted it
  3. 00:42:108 (1) - It bothers me that this slider overlaps with (4) but it doesn't with (3), looks a bit messy and unstructured. adusted two sliders
  4. 00:48:446 (1,2,3,4) - Do you mind spacing them a bit more? Unlike the other patterns before this one is pretty hard to read and the slider that goes into the different directions makes it pretty harsh for this difficulty level. yes, i fixed the space and ctrl+g
  5. 00:49:714 (1,2) - Weird that you are not spacing them like you did 00:29:432 (1,2) - here. fixed, too
  6. 01:33:130 (4,1,2) - Shaped streams should be used really carefully in diffs below Extra, but in this case you don't only have a back'n'forth thingy that is already really controversial but you also use spacing that makes it way too harsh. I adjusted the second stream
  7. 04:53:931 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - I'm completely against this pattern, but it'd be borderline fine if you at least nerf the pattern and make it similar to the next streamjump section with a lot less spacing. Right now it's even harder than in the Extra diff. >_> ok.. I fixed the second stream and all DS of here :cry:

thank you for mods!
Azure
771 posts
Joined November 2010
Azure
SPOILER
osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: audio.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 242284
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 0

[Editor]
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DistanceSpacing: 0.5
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 1.499999

[Metadata]
Title:Nobore! Susume! Takai Tou
TitleUnicode:のぼれ！すすめ！高い塔
Artist:Kikuohana
ArtistUnicode:きくおはな
Creator:Karen
Version:Azure's Insane
Source:
Tags:きくお, 花たん, Kikuo, Hanatan, YURiCa, 第一幕, Daiichimaku, SCGA-00045, Azure
BeatmapID:1129261
BeatmapSetID:528821

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:7
CircleSize:4
OverallDifficulty:8
ApproachRate:9
SliderMultiplier:2
SliderTickRate:1

[Events]
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353,49,301643,1,0,0:0:0:0:
335,80,301748,1,2,0:0:0:0:
324,114,301854,1,0,0:0:0:0:
320,150,301960,1,4,1:3:0:0:
324,186,302065,1,0,0:0:0:0:
335,220,302171,1,2,0:0:0:0:
353,251,302277,1,0,0:0:0:0:
377,278,302382,5,4,1:3:0:0:
336,304,302488,1,0,0:0:0:0:
292,324,302593,1,2,0:0:0:0:
248,340,302699,1,0,0:0:0:0:
236,260,302805,5,4,1:2:0:0:
208,272,302910,1,0,0:0:0:0:
180,284,303016,1,2,0:0:0:0:
152,296,303122,1,0,0:0:0:0:
144,216,303227,5,4,1:2:0:0:
128,224,303333,1,0,0:0:0:0:
112,232,303439,1,2,0:0:0:0:
96,240,303544,1,0,0:0:0:0:
72,168,303650,6,0,L|28:192,1,40,4|0,1:3|0:0,0:0:0:0:
60,88,303861,2,0,L|16:112,1,40,4|0,1:3|0:0,0:0:0:0:
136,112,304072,6,0,L|200:124,1,50,4|0,1:1|0:0,0:0:0:0:
248,68,304284,2,0,L|297:58,1,50,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
348,120,304495,2,0,L|412:132,1,50,4|0,1:3|0:0,0:0:0:0:
460,76,304707,2,0,L|509:66,1,50,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
496,204,304917,6,0,L|432:192,1,50,4|0,1:3|0:0,0:0:0:0:
384,248,305129,2,0,L|334:257,1,50,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
284,196,305340,2,0,L|220:184,1,50,4|0,1:3|0:0,0:0:0:0:
172,240,305552,2,0,L|122:249,1,50,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
48,228,305762,6,0,L|36:160,1,50,4|0,1:1|0:0,0:0:0:0:
112,304,305974,2,0,L|120:353,1,50,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
152,212,306185,2,0,L|140:144,1,50,4|0,1:3|0:0,0:0:0:0:
216,288,306396,2,0,L|224:337,1,50,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
275,245,306608,6,0,L|284:196,1,50,4|0,1:3|0:0,0:0:0:0:
356,70,306819,2,0,L|348:120,1,50,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
379,261,307030,2,0,L|388:212,1,50,4|0,1:3|0:0,0:0:0:0:
460,86,307241,2,0,L|452:136,1,50,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
348,120,307453,6,0,L|280:124,1,50,4|0,1:1|0:0,0:0:0:0:
388,212,307664,2,0,L|456:216,1,50,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
280,216,307875,2,0,L|212:220,1,50,4|0,1:3|0:0,0:0:0:0:
320,308,308086,2,0,L|388:312,1,50,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
224,352,308298,6,0,L|216:288,1,50,4|0,1:1|0:0,0:0:0:0:
138,202,308509,2,0,L|132:252,1,50
28,200,308720,2,0,L|36:136,1,50,4|0,1:3|0:0,0:0:0:0:
113,50,308931,2,0,L|119:99,1,50,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
132,252,309143,5,0,1:0:0:0:
120,296,309249,1,0,1:0:0:0:
108,340,309354,1,0,1:0:0:0:
8,360,309565,1,0,1:0:0:0:
28,200,309777,1,0,1:0:0:0:
224,352,309988,1,4,1:2:0:0:
字數太多分兩次回覆
臨時借了電腦改mod 麻煩你貼了 :o
Karen
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;w;

updated

metadata reference if anyone wants it

IamKwaN wrote:

ok

Unicode Title: のぼれ！すすめ！高い塔
Romanised Title: Nobore! Susume! Takai Tou
Unicode Artist: きくおはな
Romanised Artist: Kikuohana
Tags: きくお, 花たん, Kikuo, Hanatan, YURiCa, 第一幕, Daiichimaku, SCGA-00045, etc.

References:
http://www.subcul-rise.jp/kikuohana/1st/

o/
Lasse
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my part of the m4m
just played through the highest diff and it's really nice, most patterns are challenging to hit but not frustrating to play and readability seemed totally fine to me on sightread,most misses and the bad acc were from me being bad at low bpm streams _ -

that bg is way too cute, though aspect ratio seems weird as it's 5:4 / 1500x1200
but the way osu handles this actually makes it seem fine on common aspect ratios, so idk if you want to do sth about it or not
http://i.imgur.com/421Rmb9.jpg

also 04:30:270 - timing points on expert diff have conflicting settings


I'll put a full check/mod here later today, but looks great so far!
Lavender
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小建(xia)议(lian)
03:05:137 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - 5不NC下吗 没有NC提示后面03:11:897 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - 打起来几乎肯定被骗
03:55:946 (2) - 建议取缔全用1/2， 这里完全听不到有三连的音
04:02:662 (2) - 哨子不建议在这里用，看过MV大概知道哨子是建塔时候的号角一类的东西，这一段安静段是塔倒了以后，所以不适合用哨子，可以换一个比较喜感的音效
04:56:044 (5) - 不NC吗
04:56:467 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 感觉这一段间距太大了，因为你后面真正的高潮04:59:002 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 间距反而又变小了，这就有点奇怪
1pc testplay

EDIT:早知道有BN来看我就不摸了
Karen
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Lavender wrote:

小建(xia)议(lian)
03:05:137 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - 5不NC下吗 没有NC提示后面03:11:897 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - 打起来几乎肯定被骗 可
03:55:946 (2) - 建议取缔全用1/2， 这里完全听不到有三连的音 可
04:02:662 (2) - 哨子不建议在这里用，看过MV大概知道哨子是建塔时候的号角一类的东西，这一段安静段是塔倒了以后，所以不适合用哨子，可以换一个比较喜感的音效 不知道换什么，觉得还好，不打算参考MV，不然就不会用萌萌bg
04:56:044 (5) - 不NC吗 不难读吧，没拆
04:56:467 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 感觉这一段间距太大了，因为你后面真正的高潮04:59:002 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 间距反而又变小了，这就有点奇怪 这是高潮前面，大间距可以很好强调最后一段，没啥不妥吧
1pc testplay

EDIT:早知道有BN来看我就不摸了
thanks :)
Stjpa
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Stjpa
HP7 on Insane hasn't been fixed even though he said it.
00:41:897 (4,1) - hasn't been fixed properly.
00:35:770 (5,1) - has no emphasis.

I also can't bubble while the conflicting green lines on Expert are still there.
Lasse
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Lasse wrote:

04:30:270 - timing points on expert diff have conflicting settings
^is still there

your finish hitsound always makes me think of https://osu.ppy.sh/s/86983 (probably cause it's the same one lol)

general/things that go for both diffs

00:36:404 (2,3,4) - // 00:36:404 (2) - seems more like 1/6 to me ? same for the following ones, but only azure mapped them
// 00:39:784 - these and following sound correct as 1/4 though
03:18:552 (1,1) - you could put some timing points in the spinner to manipulate the spinnerspin to fit with the effects in the song. would also make sense with the timing points before and make the spinner 1 measure long
03:53:939 (1) - could set sliderbody to normal or add soft sliderwhistle or something to fit the sound in the song
04:23:116 - shouldn't this timing point be 104bpm? 26 seems a bit weird and this lol

[]

ex
00:13:376 - shouldn't this have nc to be consistent with the things you did before?
00:38:728 - 00:39:573 - with so many gimmicky things in the map already it's kinda sad you ignored this pretty unique background thing here :c
00:44:643 (1) - is this supposed to not use the normal finish but the soft one?
00:55:629 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - I think this could be more spaced, the 1/3 stand out so much and it's pretty low bpm, so it still wouldn't be too difficult compared to some of the more complex 1/4 patterns etc. you used
01:26:052 (4,1,2) - how about going for some custom stacking here so http://i.imgur.com/DoxWDFT.jpg turns into http://i.imgur.com/C5U4zlI.jpg ? think that would work great here and look nice
could also consider moving the nc to here instead as that would make the rhythm a little easier to read
whatever you change for this, also apply to 01:29:749 (1,2) -
01:45:277 (1,1) - I don't really get why you would change the streams at these spots instead of 01:45:488 (3,3) - as I think that makes more sense with how the vocals and pitch of the background things go
02:03:235 (3) - how about adding normal whistle to sliderbody? would work well with the high pitched sound you mapped the slider to
eventually 02:07:460 (1) - too
02:48:023 (1) - why not something like http://i.imgur.com/7VV8PQ8.jpg ? think this deserves a bit more emphasis and that would work well with your patterning from before // if y ou change this, 03:01:545 (1) - too obviously
03:29:854 (6) - seems to be missing a whistle or something
04:48:439 (1,2,3,4) - arranging objects like http://i.imgur.com/hYdcYpG.jpg fits better with the patterning before, current is a nice idea, but looks a little out of place to me
04:56:784 (4) - this is the only objects in the whole stream that gets a followpoint, which makes it look really weird, you only have to move one pixel down to fix lol // 05:07:770 (4) - 05:08:826 (6) -
[]

azure
seems like you wanted to lower hp from stjpa's mod already.
00:10:840 - going for 2 measure nc instead of 1 measure like the ones after seems unfitting here to me
00:16:122 (1,2,3) - 00:16:967 (5,6,7) - 00:17:812 (2,3,4) - not quite sure about mapping 1/6 as 1/4 here, the bpm is quite low anyways and it's only 3 note patterns so why not map them normally?
00:42:108 (1) - normal whistle on tail doesn't really fit, would remove or use soft
00:51:826 (2,3) - this seems a bit much to me as it makes 3 extremely easy to misread as circle
00:55:629 (5,6) - would be great if you made them clickable, such an interesting rhythm reduced to 1/1 clicking : (
01:25:629 (6,7,8) - minor, but autostacking makes these a little close so it looks kinda bad and inconsistent with your other similar gaps http://i.imgur.com/R6KfbkP.jpg, just move 01:25:946 (7,8) - a little
01:56:474 (1,6,7,1) - don't think this looks like you wanted it to ingame cause if stacking // 02:30:911 (1) - 03:03:869 (4,6,7) - 03:04:080 (5,8,1) - 04:29:425 (3,4,5) - . just turn on stacking in the editor and move things a bit
there are probably more, but these ones are pretty noticeable ingame
03:11:052 (4,5,6,1,1) - this one becomes extremely broken cause of ^
04:00:488 - why is this muted? sounds pretty similar to the sliderends before
04:09:753 (9) - just making sure this is intentional and you didn't want to ctrlg it, cause both work lol
04:10:026 (1) - seems a little off, but probably as close as you can get to follow the vocals and sound fine at 100% so whatever
05:06:396 (4,1) - would look way nicer if they were spaced a bit more, they seem to close visually to look clean
[]

should be all
let me know once this mod and the things from stjpa's post have been addressed!
Karen
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Lasse wrote:

my part of the m4m
just played through the highest diff and it's really nice, most patterns are challenging to hit but not frustrating to play and readability seemed totally fine to me on sightread,most misses and the bad acc were from me being bad at low bpm streams _ -

that bg is way too cute, though aspect ratio seems weird as it's 5:4 / 1500x1200
but the way osu handles this actually makes it seem fine on common aspect ratios, so idk if you want to do sth about it or not resized the bg to 1920*1080
http://i.imgur.com/421Rmb9.jpg

also 04:30:270 - timing points on expert diff have conflicting settings done


I'll put a full check/mod here later today, but looks great so far!

Lasse wrote:

Lasse wrote:

04:30:270 - timing points on expert diff have conflicting settings
^is still there was gonna fix this along with your mod lol

your finish hitsound always makes me think of https://osu.ppy.sh/s/86983 (probably cause it's the same one lol)

general/things that go for both diffs

00:36:404 (2,3,4) - // 00:36:404 (2) - seems more like 1/6 to me ? same for the following ones, but only azure mapped them that 1/6 sound is way too soft to hear, i think it's fine to map as 1/4, also for the consistency with the following triples
// 00:39:784 - these and following sound correct as 1/4 though
03:18:552 (1,1) - you could put some timing points in the spinner to manipulate the spinnerspin to fit with the effects in the song. would also make sense with the timing points before and make the spinner 1 measure long i don't know how to timing this :c and it doesn't need timing lines i guess? the snappings are basically 1/3 and 1/4, extended the second spinner
03:53:939 (1) - could set sliderbody to normal or add soft sliderwhistle or something to fit the sound in the song added soft-whislte
04:23:116 - shouldn't this timing point be 104bpm? 26 seems a bit weird and this lol lol ok

[]

ex
00:13:376 - shouldn't this have nc to be consistent with the things you did before?
00:38:728 - 00:39:573 - with so many gimmicky things in the map already it's kinda sad you ignored this pretty unique background thing here :c it would make the rhythm too complex here if i map this, i only want to follow the main rhythm here
00:44:643 (1) - is this supposed to not use the normal finish but the soft one?
00:55:629 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - I think this could be more spaced, the 1/3 stand out so much and it's pretty low bpm, so it still wouldn't be too difficult compared to some of the more complex 1/4 patterns etc. you used increased a bit
01:26:052 (4,1,2) - how about going for some custom stacking here so http://i.imgur.com/DoxWDFT.jpg turns into http://i.imgur.com/C5U4zlI.jpg ? think that would work great here and look nice
could also consider moving the nc to here instead as that would make the rhythm a little easier to read to...where?
whatever you change for this, also apply to 01:29:749 (1,2) -
01:45:277 (1,1) - I don't really get why you would change the streams at these spots instead of 01:45:488 (3,3) - as I think that makes more sense with how the vocals and pitch of the background things go changed 01:46:333 (1) - this, about 01:45:277 (1) - this one i think it fits the background thing here and i don't like vocals
02:03:235 (3) - how about adding normal whistle to sliderbody? would work well with the high pitched sound you mapped the slider to
eventually 02:07:460 (1) - too hmm tried but sounds not good here
02:48:023 (1) - why not something like http://i.imgur.com/7VV8PQ8.jpg ? think this deserves a bit more emphasis and that would work well with your patterning from before // if y ou change this, 03:01:545 (1) - too obviously
03:29:854 (6) - seems to be missing a whistle or something
04:48:439 (1,2,3,4) - arranging objects like http://i.imgur.com/hYdcYpG.jpg fits better with the patterning before, current is a nice idea, but looks a little out of place to me adjusted a bit
04:56:784 (4) - this is the only objects in the whole stream that gets a followpoint, which makes it look really weird, you only have to move one pixel down to fix lol // 05:07:770 (4) - 05:08:826 (6) -
things not got commented mean i totally agree and fixed, thanks!
Azure
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Azure

Stjpa wrote:

HP7 on Insane hasn't been fixed even though he said it. sorry.. I fixed my map too fast and miss this, I I changed HP to 5

00:41:897 (4,1) - hasn't been fixed properly. ^
00:35:770 (5,1) - has no emphasis. follow the trumpet, adjusted the shape of slider

I also can't bubble while the conflicting green lines on Expert are still there.

Lasse wrote:

azure
seems like you wanted to lower hp from stjpa's mod already.
00:10:840 - going for 2 measure nc instead of 1 measure like the ones after seems unfitting here to me ok
00:16:122 (1,2,3) - 00:16:967 (5,6,7) - 00:17:812 (2,3,4) - not quite sure about mapping 1/6 as 1/4 here, the bpm is quite low anyways and it's only 3 note patterns so why not map them normally? umm.. if I delete the note on blue tick, it will be very very weird... if i make 1/6 here with 3 notes+slider will be too difficult in Insane so keep it 1/4
00:42:108 (1) - normal whistle on tail doesn't really fit, would remove or use soft sofe is better, fixed
00:51:826 (2,3) - this seems a bit much to me as it makes 3 extremely easy to misread as circle changed it to a 1/4 slider
00:55:629 (5,6) - would be great if you made them clickable, such an interesting rhythm reduced to 1/1 clicking : ( no.. it's hard to click 6 notes with 1/3 suddenly
01:25:629 (6,7,8) - minor, but autostacking makes these a little close so it looks kinda bad and inconsistent with your other similar gaps http://i.imgur.com/R6KfbkP.jpg, just move 01:25:946 (7,8) - a little
01:56:474 (1,6,7,1) - don't think this looks like you wanted it to ingame cause if stacking // 02:30:911 (1) - 03:03:869 (4,6,7) - 03:04:080 (5,8,1) - 04:29:425 (3,4,5) - . just turn on stacking in the editor and move things a bit
there are probably more, but these ones are pretty noticeable ingame oh... i finally know what you mean, adjusted them
03:11:052 (4,5,6,1,1) - this one becomes extremely broken cause of ^ ^
04:00:488 - why is this muted? sounds pretty similar to the sliderends before 5% > 25%
04:09:753 (9) - just making sure this is intentional and you didn't want to ctrlg it, cause both work lol yes, I mean to do this XD
04:10:026 (1) - seems a little off, but probably as close as you can get to follow the vocals and sound fine at 100% so whatever OK~
05:06:396 (4,1) - would look way nicer if they were spaced a bit more, they seem to close visually to look clean ^
[]

should be all
let me know once this mod and the things from stjpa's post have been addressed!
YES, I replied the mod
thank you for mods :)

updated
新的BG我讀不了，在麻煩你幫我弄了，謝謝~
Karen
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updated
Lasse
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re

azure
okay you lowered hp, but actually 5 seems a bit low lol
6 like Karen's diff should be fine

karen
04:30:270 - you fixed different volume, but kiai is still different for both lines

02:03:235 (3) - are the whistles on head/tail intentional? they are fine, just making sure cause I think they weren't there before
Karen
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fixed all
@Azure 你一开始用的hp7所以我觉得把hp加到6你应该不会反对，所以我就帮你改啦不好意思
Lasse
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#1
Azure
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沒關係，謝謝你～ :oops:
Stjpa
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#2
Lavender
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神速
Hanazawa Kana
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Hanazawa Kana
这图好神啊
Karen
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Thank you Lasse and Stjpa! my bubbles are too german
Satellite
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Hello Karen chan

appeared before APP w

Romanised Artist source do you have ?

http://kikuo.jp/



" I think " romanised title : KikuoHana is more better.

Good luck first map w
Karen
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You're right, will change that in the next update, thank you :3
Pentori
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fix that then we're good to go
irc
15:04 Karen: hello!!
15:04 Karen: i've updated that
15:04 Karen: and also changed those stacked sliders for safety
15:04 Pentori: which?
15:04 Karen: 00:09:150 (1,1,1,1) -
15:04 Karen: and all other ones
15:04 Pentori: aw what
15:04 Karen: 00:12:530 (1,1) -
15:04 Pentori: they were cool
15:05 Karen: but they were probably unrankable
15:05 Karen: :c
15:05 Karen: i asked another bn
15:05 Pentori: but meanwhile monstratas can do
15:06 Pentori: xd
15:06 Pentori: question
15:06 Pentori: how come azure mapped 1/4 for 1/6?
15:06 Pentori: cant he just do a reverse slider
15:06 Karen: where?
15:06 Karen: oh
15:06 Pentori: 00:16:122 (1,2,3) -
15:06 Karen: reverse sliders are ok imo
15:06 Pentori: i honestly dont know if its an issue
15:07 Karen: eh it's triple
15:07 Pentori: the 1/6 is very obvious, and making it 1/4 might be a problem
15:07 Karen: hmm
15:07 Pentori: but im not too sure
15:07 Karen: alright, i'll tell her to change
15:17 Pentori: u need some red lines at 04:10:026 - too
15:17 Pentori: because vocals slow down, i dont think snapping to 1/12 is acceptable
15:18 Pentori: http://puu.sh/so8mi/bb9975c3c0.png
15:19 Karen: oh
15:19 Karen: red lines are not needed if we don't map that part
15:19 Pentori: azure does
15:20 Karen: omg
15:20 Karen: okay
15:20 Karen: i'll timing that
15:20 Pentori: http://puu.sh/so8mi/bb9975c3c0.png
15:20 Pentori: try that
15:23 Karen: why is it 3/4?
15:24 Pentori: just so u get the downbeat at 04:13:299 -
15:24 Pentori: 04:11:662 (1,1,1) - 3 beats here
15:26 Karen: oh yes
15:26 Karen: i'll do that
15:27 Karen: anyways i have to go for lunch, just leave here if you find more issues
15:27 Karen: xD
15:27 Pentori: ok
15:49 Karen: ok
15:49 Karen: back
15:49 Karen: so nothing else?
15:49 Karen: then i'll just update this after azure's fix then
15:49 Pentori: mm maybe this stack is a bit weird 01:43:376 (1,2) -
15:49 Pentori: for azure
15:50 Pentori: i guess its because low pitch sound but 01:43:164 (5,6) - is low pitch too and that isn't stacked
15:50 Karen: kk
15:51 Pentori: and yeah this 00:36:404 (2,3,4) - sounds a lot more like 1/6 :x
15:52 Pentori: everything else is fine
15:53 Karen: this was mentioned by another BN
15:53 Karen: i don't think the 1/6 is so obvious to follow
15:53 Karen: and i want to keep this consistent
15:53 Karen: :x
15:53 Pentori: ya i saw
15:53 Pentori: oke
timing at 04:10:026 - needs to be addressed before this moves forward so popping for now
Azure
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fix all 1/6 parts and the 1/12 vocal slider.
Thank you Pentori

updated
Pentori
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rebubbled
00:36:404 - is now 1/6 in expert

such a good song
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#2
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Hanatan <3
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05:08:403 (2,3,4,5) - what's this

like, why do you do this

please tell me
Luna-
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Luna-
I really love this
Congrats!

just sad about the unrelated bg, kikuo songs always have dark meanings, would be cool to see something relate to the song
Atrue
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这速度，赞
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congrats~
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Luna- wrote:

just sad about the unrelated bg, kikuo songs always have dark meanings, would be cool to see something relate to the song
indeed. the song is rather dark for this bg lmao


but other than that sick map
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Wow really nice map!
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Karen
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fartownik wrote:

05:08:403 (2,3,4,5) - what's this

like, why do you do this

please tell me
I wouldn't say it fits the music here but i believe it is totally acceptable. It matches the increasing difficulty of the last part. (big black)

Luna- wrote:

just sad about the unrelated bg, kikuo songs always have dark meanings, would be cool to see something relate to the song
1: i couldn't find any suitable bgs that i liked. 2: At least it's not a lemur so it's not the worst bg lol
glad you like it!

also thanks to people who helped me with this (◕ᆺ◕✿)
fartownik
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It doesnt actually. The only things it achieves: 1. breaks the linear flow that you used for the previous pattern and basically the entirety of the map, 2. breaks the rhythm you followed with spacing (you were using the streams of 8 circles in a linear pattern before, here you suddenly switch to 4).

Those combined with the fact that this is the most intense part of the map and the end makes for a REALLY easy miss from player.

Honestly, it looks like it was only put there for people to randomly choke at the end.

You can easily fix it by unstacking the stream and making it linear like the previous one in this section. It's going to be MUCH better and pretty much make the map flawless.
Karen
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fartownik wrote:

It doesnt actually. The only things it achieves: 1. breaks the linear flow that you used for the previous pattern and basically the entirety of the map, i admit that the sharp flow is kinda different with most things i did, but this just looks hard, not plays hard. i guess you probably got confused by the large ds since you didn't mention 01:47:918 (8,1,2) - this one, which is the same with that
2. breaks the rhythm you followed with spacing (you were using the streams of 8 circles in a linear pattern before, here you suddenly switch to 4). my way to express the rhythm is making ds changes like 05:08:192 (8,1) - this to emphasize important points, not keeping the flow

Those combined with the fact that this is the most intense part of the map and the end makes for a REALLY easy miss from player. as i said above, it is not that hard, is it? i have watched your replay and you didn't get a miss at this point, as well as all the high rank players i've got to test this

Honestly, it looks like it was only put there for people to randomly choke at the end. if you want me to nerf this just for letting players get a full combo, i should definitely reject it, i map for the song, not for players.

You can easily fix it by unstacking the stream and making it linear like the previous one in this section. It's going to be MUCH better and pretty much make the map flawless.
thanks for the feedback, i learnt from this although i rejected this. i should get you to testplay my future maps.
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Karen wrote:

i admit that the sharp flow is kinda different with most things i did, but this just looks hard, not plays hard. i guess you probably got confused by the large ds since you didn't mention 01:47:918 (8,1,2) - this one, which is the same with that
It actually plays hard. It plays hard because it's hard to read and because of its placement on the timeline, which is the very end of the map. That's the problem. The example you linked has nothing to do with it because it's completely fine and plays intuitive because you have introduced the player to something similar here 01:46:333 (1) and here 01:47:178 (1) so they're prepared for that. Also the fact that spacing is lower there makes it easier, that's correct.


my way to express the rhythm is making ds changes like 05:08:192 (8,1) - this to emphasize important points, not keeping the flow
05:08:192 (8,1) is expressed properly. I'm only talking about the sudden turn at 05:08:615 (4) and there's no important point there.

as i said above, it is not that hard, is it? i have watched your replay and you didn't get a miss at this point, as well as all the high rank players i've got to test this
I did miss... at the very first try, but then I went to editor to check the part. And I didn't have an FC so it was easier for me to focus on that part and not choke. It is not 'hard' as a single pattern, it's hard because of where in the timeline it is put and because of the fact that there nothing like this was introduced before in the map.

if you want me to nerf this just for letting players get a full combo, i should definitely reject it, i map for the song, not for players.
You can please both by fixing that part because it doesn't emphasize the music correctly and doesn't play well either. I'd say you're trying too hard to emphasize the small beat there. 05:07:875 (5) - just compare it to this, okay? There's almost no turn here, just a small 45* movement to the right side and the player thinks it's gonna be the same for the next part that is exactly the same in the music, but then they are forced to make a complete 180* turn with the very same beat playing in their head. Do you understand what I'm trying to say now? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6632099 placing it like this would fix all your problems here (of course adjusting the next triple too).
It's all about where you place the crucial patterns here. If it was at the very beginning of the map no one would really care because you introduce it very early and they'd be aware of a possibility of such pattern happening in the next part of the map. Sorry, I'm not letting this go.
Karen
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Ok, i'll fix it.
If anyone has more concerns please feel free to post
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disqualified as request
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fixed that
Lasse
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the thing fartownik brought up has been fixed and it seems like nobody else want to suggest anything

#1 again
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#2
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for confirmation
log
2016-11-23 12:43 Karen: Hi! i changed that pattern to [http://puu.sh/srvNC/5678750b82.jpg this], is it fine now?
2016-11-23 12:43 fartownik: yes it's fine, but doesn't it go offscreen? lol
2016-11-23 12:44 Karen: it doesn't xd
2016-11-23 12:49 fartownik: okay then
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sick map, grats!!
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that smiley looks awkwardly familiar to me :thinking:
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:thinking:
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Pho wrote:

that smiley looks awkwardly familiar to me :thinking:
Pho = couple of pie chart and a flower confirmed :thinking:
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这下牛逼了
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geez, it's been a while since I saw something cool.
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这图越打越沉迷了。选曲和谱面都好棒啊(◕ᆺ◕✿) 洗脑中
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