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Team Fortress 2 Mafia (BLU SPY WIN) - I'm Coming For You!

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NoHitter


Players:
Alive:
1) 0_o - BLU Spy - Survived
9) Lybydose - BLU Spy Survived

Dead:
3) I_Tatsuo_I - RED Demoman - Lynched - Day 1.
6) Kokizi - RED Engineer - Nightkilled - Night 1.
8) Mashley - RED Spy - Lynched - Day 2
7) Wojjan - RED Heavy - Nightkilled - Night 2
4) Mashley - RED Sniper - Lynched - Day 3
5) LunaticMara - RED Medic - Endgamed - Day 3
2) Quaraezha - RED Soldier - Endgamed - Day 3

Roles:
RED Team:
1 - Commuter Scout (Bonk! Atomic Punch)
1 - Motivator Soldier (Buff Banner)
1 - Cop Pyro (Flame Spychecking)
1 - Paranoid Gun Owner Demoman (Stickytrap)
1 - Roleblocker Heavy (Natascha Slowdown)
1 - Bus Driver Engineer (Teleporters)
1 - Doctor Medic (Ubercharge)
1 - One-Shot Bulletproof Sniper (Razorback)
1 - Vigilante Spy (Backstab)

BLU Team:

2 - One-Shot Kill-Immune Spies (Dead Ringer)

The two BLU Spies will kill off two other random classes and assume the killed classes.
They are told which classes have been killed of for them to blend in.
The BLU Spies will also have one faction kill and one faction roleblock every night.

Disclaimer: This is a Experimental Set-Up. I'm checking if the set-up will be balanced enough for the BLU Team to win.
Topic Starter
NoHitter
Rules:

General:
1) Do not quote your role PM or anything the mod gives to you.
2) Do not post screenshots or any sort of factual evidence of private communications, either with the mod or amongst yourselves.
3) Do not edit your posts.
4) Do not talk outside of the thread, unless your role PM allows so.
5) Mod has the final say on any issue. If the mod makes a mistake, feel free to PM him to sort it out.
6) If you need any help, or have questions, or just want to talk in general, feel free to PM the mod.
7) Dead men tell no tales. Dead people may not post in the thread.

Day:
1) Game starts at Day.
2) Deadlines will be 96 hours tentatively. Extensions may be placed depending on the activity.
3) You may vote someone by using this format: Vote : Player -- You may also choose to not lynch anyone. Vote: No-Lynch
4) You may also remove your vote by using this format: Unvote : Player
5) When a player receives more than half of the total votes at any point during the day, that player is automatically lynched.
6) Once a player is lynched, there shall be no posting in the thread. Night will commence shortly.
7) If no one has been lynched, and the deadline has passed, the person with the most votes gets lynched. If there is a tie, the one who reached the tying amount of votes first, is lynched.
8) A player has to remain active, at least one post per 48 hours. If a player has not posted for 48 hours, one may request for them to be prodded.
9) If the player prodded doesn't respond, a he/she will be replaced.
10) If the player gets prodded three times already and still becomes inactive he/she will be automatically replaced.
11) If no replacement can be found. The player will be modkilled instead.

Night:
1) Night lasts 48 hours.
2) Any roles or factions with active night abilities may choose to use them by PM-ing the mod (see the Role PM for role-specific instructions).
3) Once the deadline for night has passed, all actions not received will count as a No Action.

Winning:
1) Town wins when they eliminate all threats to the town.
2) Any other faction wins when they control half the votes during Day.
Two_old
how is there 5 players with 0 posts
Topic Starter
NoHitter

Two wrote:

how is there 5 players with 0 posts
I asked them via PM first.
To at least fill more than half before I posted the game.
Quaraezha
posting
Kokizi
asdasdasdasd sign me in.
Wojjan
sure whatever
Mashley
FUCK YES SIGN UP SIGN UP
Lybydose
I managed to theorycraft and break the setup in a way that gives town an auto win on a mass roleclaim. I'm doing this under the assumption that the blue spies don't gain the abilities of the people they impersonate.

To fix, give one of the blue spies the roleblocker ability.

Alternatively, change the role of one of the following: Soldier, Engineer, Heavy. These roles are easily confirmed. Change one to something that can't be confirmed very easily.

If you do either of those I'll join.

Also, ignoring all of the above, a game that gives red Bus Driver + Doctor + Cop is ridiculously mega OP for town. The reason is because both Bus Driver and Doctor can act as a protection role on the cop, while the mafia has no recourse.

EDIT: I see that you changed demo to PGO instead of Bomb. This actually makes it easier to break the setup since PGO is very easily confirmable compared to bomb. It's still fixed by giving blue a roleblocker though.
Quaraezha

Lybydose wrote:

I managed to theorycraft and break the setup in a way that gives town an auto win on a mass roleclaim.
I actually gave it a thought too and a town wins if all of them roleclaim.

Either Lyby's Suggestion or Roleclaiming is not allowed.
Topic Starter
NoHitter
Yeah I think both spies should get a roleblock each.
I'm checking the set-up again.
Topic Starter
NoHitter
Added the Roleblocking aspects of the spies.
Mara
woo woo
Lybydose
k I'm in then
Topic Starter
NoHitter
Distributing roles
Edit2 : Done
0_o
Connnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

firmed
dkun
coooonfirm~
Tatsuo
Confirmed.
Mara
confirmed
Lybydose
confirm
Kokizi
ja
Quaraezha
Confirm.jpg
Mashley
Confirm!
Topic Starter
NoHitter
That's 8/9 confirmations. Let's begin! (Also anyone get why I switched to purple?)

"Intruder Alert! Intruder Alert! Blue Spies in the Base!"

It was an ordinary fight in ctf_2fort.
RED decided to go with one of every class. BLU went with an all spy team.
BLU's tactic failed though and only two of the spies were left.
These two spies though managed to get the upper hand on two RED team members and now disguised as them.
In the Intelligence Room, everyone gathered.

The speaker cracked up. "This is the announcer here. It seems that you guys would want to kill each other, but alas I'm bored and Miss Pauling suggested a very nice thing. So now I'm going to enable friendly fire, make it sudden death and change your skins so they all appear the same."

Server cvar 'sv_pure' changed to 2
Server cvar 'mp_friendlyfire' changed to 1
Server cvar 'mp_stalemate_enable' changed to 1


"Oh and I suggest a lynch mob!"
The voice slowly became inaudible as the speaker was turned off.

IT IS NOW DAY 1.
WITH 9 ALIVE, IT TAKES 5 TO HAMMER.
DEADLINE IS IN 96 HOURS.

Lybydose
so what's up guys, who wants to give trade me some cool hats?
Mashley
Vote LunaticMara because he's a lunatic
Quaraezha
I think everyone should Roleclaim and anyone who has similar roles or whatever will be lynched since one of them is obviously a blue spy.
0_o

Quaraezha wrote:

I think everyone should Roleclaim and anyone who has similar roles or whatever will be lynched since one of them is obviously a blue spy.
That'd be super if it wasn't for:

OP wrote:

The two BLU Spies will kill off two other random classes and assume the killed classes.
They are told which classes have been killed of for them to blend in.
There are only 7 of us on RED, which means two classes aren't being used, and BLU knows what those classes are.
Mara
I just woke up. Just sayin'. I'll check this thread again soon.

Lybydose, crates for hats?
Wojjan
vote: Quaraezha

7 versus 2 means mislynch, and you are a liability regardless of what side you're on.

Also, rolefishing, also, not even bothering to read the first bloody post.
Quaraezha
Hold up, I'm just asking. I'm not yet too sure about this strategy, so I want to know your opinions.
I haven't given it much thought yet but it was something that got me curious if it would actually work.

I actually just realized there are 9 Red Roles and 7 Actual Red Members.
So my strategy won't work after all, since the last 2 blue spy can roleclaim the remaining 2 unclaimed red roles.
(Unless, if we consider the last 2 roleclaimers, that may work, but meh)

My bad, I didn't give the number of people much thought at first.
Mara
AND THE WINNER OF TEAM FORTRESS MAFIA RANDOM VOTE THINGY IS:



Vote: Lybydose

Also note that dkun is not either RED or BLU, since he is spectating while writing stuff on MSN. That's why he is at the bottom on that list.
dkun
sorry for my late presence, had a day out with family.

Vote: LunaticMara
that list is h4x'd
umad
Mara
B-but I don't want to get VAC-banned, this account has tons of games!
Lybydose
@Q:

It's a bad idea. The way the game was originally set up (before roleblockers were added), it would have been a good idea. With everyone's supposed role known, we simply could have instructed each person to use their role in a specific way on night 1. Then, when day 2 rolls around, we could then logically deduce the alignment of around half the players in the game based on what actually happened vs. what should have happened.

However, with mafia roleblockers present, it becomes nearly impossible to deduce anything. Did the person's role fail because he doesn't actually have the power, or because he was blocked? Furthermore, the other reason a mass claim would have worked is because an exposed Cop could have easily just investigated everyone behind a wall of protection roles while we vote no lynch every day. Sure, it's possible for the mafia to draw Cop as one of their fake classes, but a lying Cop would have been exposed well before Lylo (because, as I said above, multiple people would be confirmed D2).

Besides, NoHItter's games are generally pretty balanced. He wouldn't make the mistake of creating a setup that instantly fails on a D1 mass claim.

Oh, and vote: Mashley. Random.org really doesn't like you it seems.
Kokizi
Hello.
Topic Starter
NoHitter
VOTE COUNT
LunaticMara (2) - Mashley, dkun
Quaraezha (1) - Wojjan
Lybydose (1) - LunaticMara
Mashley (1) - Lybydose

Not Voting (4) - 0_o, Quaraezha, I_Tatsuo_I, Kokizi

WITH 9 ALIVE, IT TAKES 5 TO HAMMER.
Tatsuo
Trading two refined for a key.
Oh wait.

Vote: Mara

Because, yes.
Wojjan
fos tatsuo
Wojjan
prods for Qua, Mashley and 0_o
Topic Starter
NoHitter
Prodded Mashley, Quaraezha and 0_o

VOTE COUNT
LunaticMara (3) - Mashley, dkun, I_Tatsuo_I
Quaraezha (1) - Wojjan
Lybydose (1) - LunaticMara
Mashley (1) - Lybydose

Not Voting (3) - 0_o, Quaraezha, Kokizi

WITH 9 ALIVE, IT TAKES 5 TO HAMMER.
DEADLINE IS IN ROUGHLY 21 HOURS
Mashley
4 day days? Damn.... I'm gonna Unvote, vote Kokizi because his only contribution since game start has been 'hello' and this sets alarm bells ringing for me. He's the person I'm most comfortable lynching at this stage.
Wojjan
Gonna vote Tatsuo for bringing Mara up to 3 votes with the reasoning of "Yes."
0_o
Sorry, I've been pretty busy the last few days. Gotta run now but I'll get back in this soon.
Lybydose
unvote

FoS Tatsuo

Before I vote though, I'd like to hear his reasons, if any, for so casually putting Mara at L-2. It may be a random vote, but it sure doesn't look like it.
Quaraezha
It may seem natural to vote people who use Random Simulators to vote
But everyone know's that silly and is just for fun.
Also to just lure in people and keep the discussion flowing.

However, Mara has enough votes and adding more is just forcing it.
So
vote: Tatsuo
dkun

Quaraezha wrote:

[color=#BF0000]It may seem natural to vote people who use Random Simulators to vote
But everyone know's that silly and is just for fun.
Also to just lure in people and keep the discussion flowing.
it is a good way to get conversation flowing, though.
but, as fairness goes.

[b]unvote

vote: Tatsuo
0_o
I'm actually more suspicious of Tat's bandwagon than I am of Tat himself. Maybe it's just me but I feel like mafia would have been more subtle if he was actually intending on bandwagoning a lynch target (yeah it's WIFOM, but w/e).

Q I see as town due to his mistake of not knowing that the BLU team knows which classes don't exist. Sure it could be a clever ploy, but I honestly don't think he would be that devious.

Wojjan I'm giving town points to for prodding me & the others to get discussion going before the day ends.

So I'm going to vote dkun. Goodnight.
Topic Starter
NoHitter
VOTE COUNT
I_Tatsuo_I (3) - Wojjan, Quaraezha, dkun
LunaticMara (1) - I_Tatsuo_I
Lybydose (1) - LunaticMara
Kokizi (1) - Mashley
dkun (1) - 0_o

Not Voting (2) - Kokizi, Lybydose

WITH 9 ALIVE, IT TAKES 5 TO HAMMER.
DEADLINE IS IN ROUGHLY 5 HOURS
Topic Starter
NoHitter
FINAL VOTE COUNT OF THE DAY
I_Tatsuo_I (3) - Wojjan, Quaraezha, dkun
LunaticMara (1) - I_Tatsuo_I
Lybydose (1) - LunaticMara
Kokizi (1) - Mashley
dkun (1) - 0_o

Not Voting (2) - Kokizi, Lybydose

I_Tatsuo_I has been lynched.
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Intelligence Room...

It was then decided that Tatsuo would be lynched.
They brought him to the center of the room and told the announcer that they wanted to lynch Tatsuo.

"Oh... You want to lynch Tatsuo? Oh fine. Let me just kill him right here..."
Server cvar 'kill I_Tatsuo_I"

With that, Tatsuo's body fell to the ground.
The clothes changed to that of a color red, and a grenade launcher fell on the ground.

I_Tatsuo_I - RED Demoman - Lynched - Day 1.

IT IS NOW NIGHT 1.
ALL ACTIONS MUST BE SENT IN 48 HOURS

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