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slowpoke1135 mania advices

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Slowpoke1135
im bored so ill ggive birth to an actual advice thread not just some reply to thread. note my field of expertise is 6k, so some shit may not apply in some cases

MOST OF THIS STUFF HERE SHOULD APPLY TO TAIKO ASWELL SINCE IIRC MOST OF IT IS PHYSICAL BASED

GENERAL ADVICES
quote because im lazy

Slowpoke1135 wrote:

1) if you cant get an A rank on sightread, dont bother if you can A rank sightread then reaching S rank wont be too bad**

2) stop grinding at S rank* theres no point imo

3) *except when improving acc for hitting more accurately, focus on getting 98% (i play on lazer so because of how 300s work its prob closwr to 99% for you take 98% with salt grains) and focus on MA and PA, on songs you can focus on accs like 98% and 99% then only MA and PA matter as anything not MA and PA is just a mistake and doesnt say about accuracy

4) sleep for 8 hour or atleast as much as you physically can if you cant reach 8 hours i got a massive skill boos at 8 hour sleep but now i cant seem to do 8 hour sleeos :(

5) if you cant improve acc when putting effort in, focus on improving acc on comfortable stuff idk how to explain it well in a short way. basically, lets say youre improving by trying new hard stuff and it doesnt work, try focus on easier songs with good pattern execution and sorta raise the skill level of what you can do wihout putting effort in to raise skill level of what you can do whilst putting effort in. hope it makes sense

6) consider changing posture + trying wrist up/down try changing keybinds and how youre arms are when playing. KEEP ARMS STRAIGHT MOSTLY PLEASE SHIFT KEYBOARD BACK IF WRISTS ARE BENT. FOREARM AND HAND ANGLE SHOULD BE BETWEEN 160° AND 180° SO YOU PERFORM BETTER AND DONT DESTROY HANDS. i never broke my hands or anything its jusy inpirtant. i also tried not leaning back in chair while playing but doing some sorta goofy ass sitting straight up (angle of upper arm and forearm gone from like 150°ish to 85°ish) and i found i played better. like me, you might just be able to play wrist up without practice

BONUS) my sorta "routine" type thing for improvement is to A rank something and play it every session atleast once until S rank. the A must be a sightread for me

BONUS 2: THE SEQUEL) when warming up, play with acc in mind if you wanna focus sessions on fingering quickly and not accurately, then play easier fun songs as warm up and focus on getting a good MA and just getting better acc. playing with good acc means it improves playing patterns and just hitting accurately in general so in a break section in a hard song that accuracy and getting a gumbazumbazillion marvs can save your S rank
ok firstly for 5 i think i meant raising skill floor, which can help and for the 160° to 180° thing just to make clear i mean the interior angle so 160° means hand pull back a little. also 180 is more like 200 is degree lol

**turns out atleast on higher key counts giving lol (lots of leniency) is very important for yhe A rank S rank rule as i play more i realize its "if you can A rank at all then grind for S" and then theres more nuance with jt thatd probably player dependent
not from original quote
1)be confident it just works man idk what to say. 1 good play means a good session for me

LEARNING LONG NOTES
how i read LN
theres not much fo say just sorta i mentally disconnect LN start and end so i view thr actual start holding and release as 2 different thingamabobs. probably best way. also LN bodys technically dont convey any info so you can sorta ignore them and worry about release except when you have body that stretches whole LN like mine with a gradient or smth as in rare cases you know you cam lose focus for a sec, and also conciously thinm of next finger movement
how i hit LN
once you know how to read LN, learning how to hit LN is just practice like rice lol just get release timing down. getting release timing down can be dkne wirh releqse LN

HOW TO PLAY JACKS
how i chord my jack
tense arms, minimize finger movement, uhh yeah thats it im not really chordjack main but thats what i do
how i hit minijacks
might just be 6k practice but my hand can sorta do some weird half arsed vibro and it works, no wrist or elbow or finger nuh uh uh just small brrr
how i long jack
literally same as minijacks

HOW TO STREAM
just practice but this is the besst advice i can think of
making fingers lighter hasnt helped me but what has is minimizing finger distance if possible but keep tense

TECH
I DONT SEE TECH ALOT
6k has like no tech atleast i cant find, very rare. i think doing sone wrist stuff and hitting some notes hard idfk man

NOT FULL BRACKRTS
how i bracket
i minimise finger movement, and i try best. for those small brackets that are like (1,3)(2)(1,3) which forms a sorta :▪︎: shape on one hand i play like a inward/outward 3 note roll where the extra 2 notes i sorta just move fingers extra and it works. for longer brackets, i do same but keep rolling same direction, idk man you sorta just learn

FULL BRACKETS
tldr dont use above advice for this
i know its not advice but its advice in the sense im telling you what not to do. DO NOT try to apply nkn full bracket reading method your eyes sorta just realize "oh shit its this one" and instead of rolls its 3 trills and yeahhhh good luck. if you really wanna learn, make dump map of 3 rows of this and slowly increase is prob only way. for 7k, you can try since aside from middle its symetrical so like its possible, especially if you use the forbidden finger between your legs but thats a geometry dash strat so i dont reccomend

HYBRID
what i define as hybrid
hybrid is when roughly 1/4 or 1/3 notes are LN in song and its sorta consistent throught song. 5050 is just LN. reason this is like that is due to how LN is bigger and like more conplex so 5050 is sorta like LN
how to play hybrid
all i can really say is that you should learn to play LN and also sorta hold LN harder so that you anchor your finger there helping speed and like stuff lol

BURSTS
IM SHIT AT BURSTS
ngl i button mash, not vibro tho its specifically button mashing and trying to match notes as best as can. why? S ranking (and also map packs in 6k)

LEARN NEW KEYCOUNT
all cases
focus on getting good hit acc so you know where buttond are, learn patterns, boom
4k -> 6k,5k -> 7k,that shit
basically just READ the 2 extra notes as scratch (READING, READ, READ, how you intetperet information, not how execute) and itll like naturallt become normal

STAMINA
i got nothing to say
play stamina😎. also ig tense arms more when not playing stamina since that would pribably help

WHAT PAINS ARE BAD OR OK
ok
burns, especially ok when beginner; pain from tense arms; light hand ache after session or mid session
EVIL PAINS
sharp, sudden bad pain, look if feels like something that doesnt come from tense arms then its bad

DERUSTING
rust prigrammung language
ok basucally play easy shit lol. what i had before here sucked as it was a guess but avoid playing hard shit man thats how i had sharp hand pains playing mania and i had to push through it to derust, you know how in warmup if youre like 7 star level you can warm up with 3 or 4 stars same speed of warm up? same goes with derusting just gotta wake your hands up

SKIN
how to find your skin you would like
just make it you lazy poopoo itll be perfrct if yoy make it. find smth that has a structure similar to what yuu want (not note images exactly but like the general hos everything is) and modify it until you likey

WRIST POSITION UP OR DOWN
i play wrist up LAUGH OUT LOUD
basically wrist down is flat on the surface keyboard is on and wrist up is basically wrist suspended in air. wrist down apparently offers speed but in my personal experience wrist up improved everything without any practice

SKILL WALL
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Slowpoke1135 wrote:

idk much abt 4k but i think i might help. basically youre at a skill wall, which really sucks, i had a 2 month ish skill wall trying tk do 5 stars on 6k. i feel like a helpful piece of idea is to start playing songs with different accs in mind. i use to aim for S ranks byt now i aim for a few A ranks and hell even some 89s/88s help me improve at this point. you can also just learn a new keycount, dont give up whatever youre doing now just have anotger keycount to shift your attention as it may help 4k wall and also can help improve acc slightly.

nvm im not updating this unless i feel like it i learnt i am really fucking lazy also nobody reads this😭 maybe ill look back on it in the future
JKKO
Playing full long note helps with brackets since it's all about finger independence. I believe they fixed Osu Lazer's full ln mod so that works well. Practicing trills in your free time with your middle and ring fingers also helps, since most issues stem from those fingers. You may also want to play brackets with 10od if you tend to mash. Brackets are relatively easy to acc. I also recommend a game called Soundsphere to convert maps to a specific key mode to have more maps. Especially useful if you're playing a less popular one. Plus, the fln modifiers which are very good for ln release/coordination practice. Also, add rates to everything you can S-rank. Easy method for improving hand speed. Plus, since you're playing the same patterns again, it sticks better.
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Slowpoke1135
brackets is not finger independence, atleast from my experience. LN release is finger independence. outer lane trilling will always be hard for extended period of time. 6k map packs exist which have better charting for improvement with many jacks and stuff you wouldmt see jn ranked. rates makes sense at a lower level, but with 6k map packs theres kinda no point because of how they are
JKKO

Slowpoke1135 wrote:

brackets is not finger independence, atleast from my experience. LN release is finger independence. outer lane trilling will always be hard for extended period of time. 6k map packs exist which have better charting for improvement with many jacks and stuff you wouldmt see jn ranked. rates makes sense at a lower level, but with 6k map packs theres kinda no point because of how they are
The middle and ring fingers are connected. Without good finger independence, brackets are impossible without proper practice. They're all about finger independence and control. Good independence will give you good control to play stamina bracket maps especially. Technically, every pattern requires a degree of finger independence, even the simple ones. Which is why training full ln helps with nearly every pattern, so I highly recommend it. The more in tune you are with your hands, the easier certain patterns will be. Full ln concentrates on the fingers, brackets are all about the fingers as well. That's why it helps. I personally found it much easier to execute brackets after playing full ln, so at least give it a try. You need flexible hands so there isn't tension when performing brackets. Rates are very helpful for improving speed in all areas. You can build up speed in increments easily for patterns like jacks and chordstreams. I believe they're helpful for all levels of play. Also great for trying patterns you can't quite play yet. I slowed down Exile lv.19 and slowly sped it up until I could play it. I couldn't find many maps that played like it, so it was the best solution at the time.
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Slowpoke1135
i use to play release LN and occasionally play inverse LN rn which are the two hardest LN pattern types and it doesnt really help with brackets in my experience ofc tho to some degree playing one pattern improves another. when i said rates arent too helpful, i meant specifically in 6k map packs since in general theyre good but with 6k map packs because of levelling system once youre able to play [14]s which arent that hard to reach then down rating doesnt really introduce new patterns and up rating just ruins the leveling system and makes chart slightly worse as not all skills increase linearly in bpm
endurance_white
i find minijacks beside ln is harder than most of other ln patterns because if your really too used to play cj then theres chance that your finger might release the ln while playing minijacks (maps like everlasting eternity for e.g), so i never know how to do the patterns and i dont get how people hits jacks thats beside ln (yes i know that you can practice it by playing slow jacks first but my left finger have bad finger speed) also your tips really matches with what i do to reach top 4k in 4 key, its pretty good!
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Slowpoke1135

endurance_white wrote:

i find minijacks beside ln is harder than most of other ln patterns because if your really too used to play cj then theres chance that your finger might release the ln while playing minijacks (maps like everlasting eternity for e.g), so i never know how to do the patterns and i dont get how people hits jacks thats beside ln (yes i know that you can practice it by playing slow jacks first but my left finger have bad finger speed) also your tips really matches with what i do to reach top 4k in 4 key, its pretty good!
iirc if its an akward LN+minijack then i press LN harder to anchor finger and just hit minijack
Polyspora
its dead
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Slowpoke1135

Polyspora wrote:

its dead
mayne someone could read tho, in the future
Polyspora
how to play mania, my eyes cannot keep up past 1*
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Slowpoke1135

Polyspora wrote:

how to play mania, my eyes cannot keep up past 1*
lower scroll speed
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