0_o wrote:

2.5 years old, ahhhhhh

GbL wrote:

I am baaaaaaaaack! \o/
And I want this map ranked, go go go job! Waiting for BAT

0_o wrote:

Just so you're aware, I AM still around if any changes are required for my diff.

Gotta love those ugly 2009 sliders <3

EDIT: Actually here, I made a few minor hitsound tweaks and removed the uninherited timing section for the one mega-slowdown.
http://puu.sh/52ZET.osu

Zero__wind wrote:

wow such an antique map
welcome to 2014
I love this song quite well
Good luck

Raging Bull wrote:

damn, and I thought this map was old.

Kurai wrote:

2009 maps are the best!

Blue Dragon wrote:

Please don't give up, GbL! I know it'll be hard to get this ranked now but you still can't give up!

GbL wrote:

Blue Dragon wrote:

Please don't give up, GbL! I know it'll be hard to get this ranked now but you still can't give up!

Thanks, but... you can't help me?

1. 00:19:613 (2) - this spacing is very close to the previous object and having it appear under the slidertrack will be very confusing for new people; try to find a better way to put it
2. 00:22:095 (2) - super evil trap, don't do things like this; it's super unpredictable that this is a slider that goes the exact same path back that you just game, specifically when you're new to the game
3. 00:33:682 (1) - similar to the first suggestion, it doesn't look nice to see this under the slidertrack
4. 00:41:957 (1) - you could make this look way better by using an anchor and an additional bezier point; have an example below
   
   here

   
5. 00:48:578 (2) - ^
6. 00:55:199 (1,2,3,4,5) - having all of this stacked makes it very boring and weird to play, please do something else (a star maybe?)
7. 00:58:509 (6) - new combo here please
8. 01:00:992 (1) - I don't really see what the clap on this hits on so I would suggest removing it; also, I'd probably extend the spinner to 01:08:440, or if you don't want that, at least delay the breaktime until then to give a better transition to the next part of the song
9. 01:29:957 (3) - this goes right through the HP bar and just looks very bad, move it down or reshape it please
10. 01:49:820 (1,2,3,4,5) - same thing as in first kiai time, please unstack these and make some kind of pattern from it
11. 01:53:130 (6) - add new combo
12. 01:55:613 (1) - same thing about this spinner as the one before; remove clap and extend to 02:03:061 or delay the break until then - actually, this is a very long breaktime and I think you should start mapping at 02:16:302 again instead of letting the player wait for over twenty seconds just to play another spinner (that also starts very randomly)
13. 02:33:682 (2) - why is this 0.9x snap? fix to 1.0x please (make an equal triangle with 1 and 3?)
14. 02:46:096 (1,2,3,4) - again, this stack is boring and confusing
15. 02:49:406 (5) - new combo here please
16. 02:59:337 - uhm.. why does the map.. stop.. ?_?

1. 00:14:647 (2) - I personally don't like how you have to go back to where you came from with the cursor here; move to 289|122 or something?
2. 00:17:957 (3) - you have a fair lot of whistles here already, remove this one?
3. 00:22:923 (2) - I'd suggest you use a mirrored version of 1 here for consistency (or the other way around, replace 1 with a mirrored version of this one, your call)
4. 00:24:164 (2,4) - adding whistles here could be nice
5. 00:27:061 - there's so little hitsounding in the part after this, try to get some melody in or something (even a 2/1 whistle would do well with the song)
6. 00:34:509 (1) - I don't understand this NC tbh
7. 00:35:337 (3) - the finish is very sudden here, remove it?
8. 00:49:406 (1) - remove new combo
9. 00:51:061 (1) - ^
10. 00:57:682 (1) - ^
11. 00:59:957 (3) - this is the first time you're using 1/2 in this diff and it comes very sudden, maybe think of a way to make it more natural for beginners; also, why did you stop the kiai here, chorus is still going and the other diffs have it too >:
12. 01:29:957 (5) - well this is just very.. linear.. I don't like it, sorry. I think a curve would do much better
13. 01:42:371 (1,1,1,1,1,1) - returning to the same point over and over again is not very nice here, at least not for me; also, you should delete like, every second new combo in this, probably
14. 01:46:509 (1,2) - please move 2 a bit more away from 1 so they don't have the overlap at the ends
15. 01:48:992 (1) - this is very close to previous 2 considering there's a rather large break in the song; move it further away to prevent early accidental clicks?
16. 01:52:716 (2) - why is this 0.9x snap? fix to 1.0x please
17. 01:59:337 (1) - this finish is very harsh and doesn't fit well, remove it
18. 02:34:095 (1) - no need for this new combo
19. 02:39:888 (1) - ^
20. 02:42:371 (1) - ^
21. 02:44:440 (1) - ^
22. 02:46:095 (1) - ^
23. 02:47:751 (1) - ^
24. 02:49:406 (3) - the overlap with the hitbursts from 1 and 2 is not very nice, try something to reduce this? (or at least make both circles overlap the slider equally)
25. 02:50:647 (1) - no need for this new combo
26. 02:53:751 (1) - overlap with 3 is not nice and hides the reverse arrow
27. 02:59:233 - since you have a gradual increase in volume here and this tick is not used, add a 95% inherit section here?
28. 03:10:716 (1) - this is kind of a jump and it surprised me a fair lot; try to find a way around this? also, I don't think a new combo is needed here
29. 03:11:751 (1,2) - I think this is the only time you stacked something in this diff like this? could be a bit of a trap for newbies
30. 03:22:095 (1) - again the finish at the end sounds too harsh for the section it's in, remove it please

1. 00:21:061 (3,4,5) - a bit of an overload of finishes here; remove the first two? (or just work with whistles entirely for this combo?)
   
   you could also smoothen 5 out, like this for example

   
2. 00:34:302 (2,3,4) - the tripple finishes again, sounds too harsh to me
3. 00:45:061 (5) - moving the second sliderpoint (like, not counting the start) to 188|344 makes this wave a fair bit more smooth, so please do that
4. 00:50:026 (9) - consider adding a new combo here as this one is getting really long
5. 00:51:682 (12) - wowowowowo that's very few beziers - use like two more and fiddle around a bit, that'll make this way more balanced
6. 00:53:337 (1) - remove new combo
7. 00:56:647 (4) - would suggest you add another sliderpoint here and fiddle a bit to get this smooth
8. 01:04:923 (2) - i'm sure you can make this symmetric
9. 01:06:578 (3) - please place this on the Y-axis
10. 01:21:061 (1,2,3) - man I love those clap introductions
11. 01:21:682 (1) - stack properly with 1-2-3 please
12. 01:26:440 (6) - another wave you could smoothen a fair lot; move the second sliderpoint (again, not counting the start as one) to 252|263, that'll help a fair bit
13. 01:27:475 (7) - similar, move the first one to 488|216?
14. 01:33:061 (6) - this one you can also make a lot better; first point to 182|162, second to 336|235 and end to 256|292 (also stack 7-8-9 on the end properly)
    
    will look like this then

    
15. 01:41:337 (8) - this one is not very balanced either; second point to 161|169 and end to 271|51 will help
16. 02:07:820 (5) - first point to 74|232 will do well here
17. 02:13:406 (3) - would replace this with two circles because the vocals on both the start and end are fairly equal in strength; also I suggest you remove the finish because it's just too sudden
18. 02:37:612 (1) - a new combo for just one object is not so nice, remove it
19. 02:55:819 (2) - well that's a nice waveslider!
20. 02:58:917 (3,4,5,6) - oh my god the finishes (I like them)
21. 03:02:233 (9) - the combo is getting very long again, NC here please
22. 03:04:095 (14) - smoothen this please?
23. 03:08:646 (1) - no need for this new combo
24. 03:15:888 (1) - ^

1. 00:19:199 (6,7,8) - not exactly pretty; would at least make these not overlap anymore, maybe make them blanket each other
2. 00:21:888 (2,3) - could make a bit of a jump here of sorts to remove the overlap (or at least move it further away so 3's start isn't as glued to 2's slidertrack)
3. 00:24:785 (5) - I don't really understand why there's an achor here
4. 00:25:613 (1,5) - may be picky but I feel like you should arrange this so there's a bit more of distance between those (causes hitburst overlaps)
5. 00:38:854 (1,2,3,4,5) - actually those sliders should start on the white ticks because of the backbeat here which just feels better to have sliderstarts on than ends
6. 00:47:957 (2,4) - I actually would like to see a clap swap here (as in, remove it from 2 and add it on 4's start); the resulting double feels good
   ^if going with this, you may very well add claps on 00:50:026 (4) - (start) and 00:51:475 (7,8) - aswell
7. 00:54:992 (4) - add clap perhaps
8. 00:56:647 (3) - ^
9. 00:57:888 (4,5) - doubleclap makes for a good entrance to the spinner because it gives this uprising feeling
10. 01:01:199 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - give a bit more room between these as to not give them this super narrow feeling (the vocals are quite resonant here, so that'd make sense to do); new algorhythm curves please, the beziers look very unbalanced at this point?
11. 01:19:406 (5) - it's this random anchorpoint slider again!!
12. 01:21:682 (1) - add whistle on end?
13. 01:25:613 (2) - I personally don't enjoy this crumpled slider and the finishes; the song doesn't feature strong beats here
14. 01:28:302 (1) - add whistle on end?
15. 01:29:544 (3) - a little ugly how this overlaps with 2
16. 01:31:406 (3,4,5) - I'd probably replace these with circles because the vocals are fairly equally strong on all these beats and sliders make it so you only play the first one (also, add a finish at 01:31:613 to give like a conclusive feeling to the hitfinish pattern? currently it just drips off into nothingness)
    Kiai is mirrored from the first one so same applies here as before
17. 02:21:268 (1,2,3,4) - these reach a fair bit into the HP bar, please move them down (probably means you will have to move the whole pattern downwards but that should be possible)
18. 02:26:233 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - I could imagine a gradual increase in volume here, would fit well with the whole buildup character for the pre-kiai section
19. 02:51:268 (4) - darn you random anchors, cobra why do you do this to me ;A;
20. 02:52:095 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - this'd be better if each new combo didn't touch the previous one (also, you could redo the curves, hue)
    
    ignore the timestamp and AR mess

    
21. 03:08:026 (5,6) - make this a 90° angle from 4 without gridsnap please
22. 03:12:371 (1) - the overlap of start and end is not very nice here; you could use a new algorhythm-slider to have this done well very easily
23. 03:14:026 (2) - could also use some fiddling; if you want help with those sliders, be welcome to call me back
24. 03:15:888 (3) - using four points (as in, four if you count out the start and end) would make this way smoother, please consider doing that

1. As combo colours estão inconsistentes. Em duas diffs é uma coisa, nas outras duas é outra. Isso não é exatamente unrankeável, mas é altamente recomendado que você deixe igual em todas as diffs.
2. Tira Blue Dragon das tags em todas as diffs (já que não tem mais minha diff). Nesse momento, só o Easy não tem essas tags.
3. Recomendo mudar o Preview Point pra 00:41:130 em todas as diffs.
4. Green sections aren't snapped in any difficulty.

1. 00:17:130 (1) - Seria interessante adicionar um whistle no início desse slider, pra ficar menos vazio e tal
2. 00:19:613 (2) - Eu posicionaria isso num lugar diferente, pq agora tá meio que debaixo do slider e isso não fica legal... Recomendo x:400 y:128.
3. 00:20:440 (1,2) - Acredito que isso seja unrankeável. O slider não pode sair "debaixo" do outro, porque isso não é exatamente legível pra um newbie. Se você quiser manter essa pattern, recomendaria fazer algo assim.
4. 00:22:095 (2) - Whistle no início do slider?
5. 00:27:061 (1) - Um whistle aqui deixaria a pattern mais interessante.
6. 00:28:716 (3) - Aqui também, mesma coisa que ^.
7. 00:30:371 (5) - ^
8. 00:30:371 (5) - New combo nessa nota, pra seguir a lógica dos vocais na música.
9. 00:31:199 (6) - Essa nota tá um espaçada um pouquinho errada, deveria estar em x344 y64.
10. 00:33:682 (1) - De novo, um whistle seria interessante...
11. 00:35:337 (3) - Vou parar de sugerir os whistles, porque acho que já ficou mais ou menos colocada a ideia. Colocar um pouco mais de whistles no mapa pra animar seria bem interessante. Além disso, não curti o finish nesse slider, pra mim ficou meio aleatório com a música...
12. 00:41:957 (1) - Esse clap tá bem aleatório.. um finish aqui ficaria bem melhor. Além disso, quer uma ideia interessante pra deixar esse slider melhor? Adiciona um segundo ponto em x384 y384, pra deixar o slider assim. Ficaria bem melhor e mais bonito.
13. 00:48:578 (2) - Como esse é um copypaste, a mesma coisa se aplica. A diferença é que o ponto novo no slider deveria estar em x128 y384.
14. 00:55:199 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Ultimamente, os mappers não têm costumado stackear notas em Easy diffs. Seria interessante espalhar essas notas (tirando o (4,5,6) ) pra movimentar um pouco o mapa.
15. 00:58:509 (6) - Ao invés de clap, usar whistles pra seguir os vocais ficaria melhor, na minha opinião. Also, um new combo aqui pra seguir os vocais também.
16. 01:00:992 (1) - O spinner deveria começar em 01:01:820 pra seguir os vocais. Não precisa nem diminuir o tamanho dele depois, ele termina melhor em 01:08:440. Mas aí seria legal colocar um finish, ao invés de um clap.
17. 01:24:992 (5) - Seria melhor pro entendimento do mapa colocar a nota em x:416 y:304, ficaria mais lógico pra mim. BTW, pra ficar mais correto com a música, o newcombo deveria estar aqui, ao invés do 01:25:613 (1). Aproveita e tira do 01:27:061 (1) também, não vejo muito sentido naquele newcombo.
18. 01:41:544 (6) - Pra deixar simétrico com o (4), essa nota deveria estar em x:64 y:336.
19. 01:49:820 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Mesma coisa que eu sugeri em 00:55:199 (1,2,3,4,5,6).
20. 01:53:130 (6) - Newcombo aqui.
21. 01:55:613 (1) - Move o spinner pra 01:56:440 e termina ele com um whistle ou finish.
22. 02:16:302 - Já que essa break tá BEM longa, você deveria mapear alguma coisa a partir desse ponto.. Aliás, você deve. Até onde eu sei, breaks muito longas são unrankeáveis e tal >:
23. 02:26:854 (1) - Faria mais sentido com a música se o spinner começasse em 02:27:888 ao invés desse lugar que tu botou.
24. 02:37:820 (7) - Mesma coisa que o 01:41:544.
25. 02:46:096 (1,2,3,4) - Mesma coisa que eu sugeri antes.
26. 02:49:406 (5) - Newcombo, pelo mesmo motivo de antes.
27. 02:51:888 (1) - Esse spinner deveria começar um pouco depois, aos 02:52:716.
    
    Então cara... hoje tem uma regra que impede o Easy de terminar antes que as outras diffs. Então, se você quiser isso rankeado, vai ter que mapear até o final do kiai >:

1. 00:19:199 (2) - Tem um whistle sobrando na track desse slider, só selecionar o slider e tirar o whistle.
2. 00:20:026 (1,2,3,1,2,1,2,3,4) - Cadê os hitsounds que você tava botando no início? Continua com eles pelo mapa inteiro, por favor >:
3. 00:22:095 (1,2) - Seria interessante fazer esses sliders simétricos (ctrl+c ctrl+v).
4. 00:43:613 (5) - Newcombo aqui pra combinar com a música?
5. 00:45:682 (2) - Newcombo deveria estar aqui, não no slider anterior. Bom, como o jeito de dar newcombos aqui é meio antigo, eu vou dar uma ignorada, espero que não tenham nenhum problema com isso depois.
6. 00:51:061 (1) - Mesmo assim, isso não justifica combos de uma nota. Tira esse newcombo, pfv D:
7. 00:59:751 (2,3) - Acho que funcionaria melhor com o resto do mapa se tu fizesse essas duas notas virarem um slider, ao invés. Ficaria mais intuitivo.
8. 01:04:716 (1) - Acho que seria mais legal se o spinner terminasse em 01:08:440, como eu sugeri no Easy.
9. 01:34:095 (1) - combos de uma nota ;_;
10. 01:42:371 (1,1,1,1,1) - Isso fica bem estranho de jogar, na minha opinião... Uma coisa que eu sugiro é pegar cada slider individualmente e apertar ctrl+G pra ele reverter. Fica bem mais interessante de jogar. BTW, acho esses newcombos meio desnecessários..
11. 01:46:509 (1) - Ao invés de colocar o clap no final desse slider, funcionaria melhor colocar ele no início do (2).
12. 01:54:371 (2,3) - Mesma coisa que o 00:59:751.
13. 02:27:888 (1) - Por que não terminar o spinner em 02:31:199? Ficaria melhor com a música, imo.
14. 02:32:026 (1) - Acho que ficaria melhor pra jogar se esse slider fosse posicionado assim.
15. 02:33:682 (2) - Spacing tá meio errado aqui, arruma pls
16. 02:37:406 (4) - Como esse slider tá saindo do grid e também tá fazendo um jump muito grande com a próxima nota, recomendo mover ele pra x176 y40.
17. 02:39:475 (2) - Spacing meio errado aqui também.
18. 02:50:647 (1,2) - Mesma coisa que 00:59:751.
19. 03:05:130 (1) - Recomendo fazer isso com o slider.
20. 03:10:923 (1) - Acho que fazer isso seria mais intuitivo.

• Well, uhm... I really don't know how to mod this. 2009 style isn't something I want to change in this map, so I'm just gonna list stuff that's probably not gonna be okay for today's standards:

1. 00:43:406 (4) - Runs away from the grid. I don't think that's rankable. Not sure, though.
2. 00:48:578 (6) - I'd newcombo this, as this combo feels a bit too big.
3. 01:41:337 (8,1,2) - Spacing a bit broken here?
4. 01:44:647 (3,4) - I'd avoid this kind of overlapping, not REALLY necessary, though.
5. 02:10:302 (3,4,5) - I think spacing is a bit broken in general in this diff, dunno what happened. Probably intentional because of the symmetry, but yeah, just feels like it.
6. 03:02:439 (10) - Newcombo here to split this big combo?

1. 01:12:164 (3,4) - this is rankable, but may give you a few problems in the future (ranking-wise). I guess doing something like this would play/look better.
2. 01:22:302 (2,4) - Same thing as I commented on 0_o's diff. These aren't exactly unrankable, but would it be possible to avoid them if you could?
3. 01:25:613 (2) - Not sure about the rankability of this ):
4. 01:35:130 (1,2,3) - Because of the hitbursts and the previous slider, these notes are pretty much completely hidden. I have no idea how to fix this, though. Maybe someone else will give a suggestion, but if not, I guess you'll have to remove the awesome spiral >:
5. 02:38:647 (1,2,3,4) - Maybe move these 4 notes a bit up so the spacing between (4,5) is consistent with the rest of the pattern?
6. 03:12:371 (1,2,3,4,5) - This is why you're my favourite oldschool mapper, Kingcobra. We need more creativity like this nowadays.

kingcobra52 wrote:

Made a minor adjustment. Use this instead.

http://puu.sh/7E1T5