This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Sonndeg 4 Oktober 2009 at 16:41:00

Artist: Avril Lavigne
Title: Complicated
Tags: GbL
BPM: 156
Filesize: 3967kb
Play Time: 03:30
Difficulties Available:

1. Easy (0,9 stars, 148 notes)
2. GbL's Difficulty (4,69 stars, 444 notes)
3. Hard (4,49 stars, 305 notes)
4. Normal (3,94 stars, 275 notes)

Download: Avril Lavigne - Complicated
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Hi, plz check this out
tell me if there s any mistake im missing, thnx!!

thanks all for the help

-added new diff by GbL
-also new background by GbL
-skin by Lissette added
Thanks guys n_n

also thanks to all for helping

cya!

All diffs. ready!

Liz there s 2 hard..... why??

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Bull Dog wrote:

Song seems kinda quiet.

The hit sounds from OSU are drowning out the song. I'd give it a ~+5 db boost.

fixed... thanks for the help

bump...

Offset: 12.795

This really is a very nice map, good job on this one!
Inherrit timing sections!

[Hard]
00:45:098 - Change this to a 1/2 slider (?)
00:45:675 - Extra note here (?)
02:46:035 - If this note is ment on the music, keep it as it is, if you are trying to reach vocals make it 1/4 earliër.
02:53:341 - Weird ending, make it just end on the white tick.

[Normal]
00:45:098 - Same as at hard.
01:09:324 - Stack these 3 notes (?)
02:13:926 - ^
02:46:035 - Same as at hard.

[Easy]
Fine I think.

Hi..
cool u liked
thanks for the help
i ve fixed what u listed...i think is better know thanks..
cya around

try offset 12790

hard:
[nazi]
almost all notes aren't snapped to the grid, fix that.
01:12:01 (6) - move up 1 grid so it's align with the 4.
02:49:30 (7) - move 1 grid up and 1 grid right.
[/nazi]

Overall: fun map . Fix the cosmetic errors and I think this map will be ranked pretty soon.


I haven't checked normal and easy yet, i'll do that later.

hi
thanks for checking mrtn.
i fixed those lil' things, also changed offset, is better now, thanks
cya

Didn't go all nitpicky (yet) but here are my major points:

EASY

00:58:93 (1) - End this one on the white tick before the white tick before this one
02:03:53 (2) - Make this one a slider (?)
03:30:82 (1) - Start 1 beat later

There's a lot of combo inconsistency. Can you make it like this that there are 4 notes/slider starts and ends in 1 combo:

1 - 2 - 3 - 4
or
1 - 2 - 3===3
or
1===x===1 - 2

et cetera

NORMAL

00:45:66 (3,4,5) - doesn't fit lyrics.
01:38:15 (3,4) - move 1/2 earlier
02:16:61 (1) - Needless spinner

HARD

00:27:40 (5) - Doesn't feel right... Place these as in 01:31:23
01:00:85 (1) - End 1/2 earlier
02:05:46 (1) - Same

thanks for the corrections Wojjan
is fixed and updated.. check it out
bye

i checked hard out and i found the distances a bit big...

i used distance snap on them

and here is the result..see if u find it ok

Download: Avril Lavigne - Complicated.osz

x3ns0r thanks a lot for checkin.
but i couldn't open the file...

BPM: 156.000
The offset is fine to within a couple ms or so.

Linear sliders don't look very good IMO. Also, this smells like it should be mapped in a 1/3 snap.

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Offset- 12,775 (imo... try for yourself?)

Easy-
01:24:71 - the break's off
01:43:57 -from here to end, you didn't resnap (guessing after you changed BPM)
02:29:32 - the break's off
03:09:71 - I know it's Easy diff, but it just doesn't sound good without note here. (cuz you sped up while matching vocal)
03:10:48 - ^
03:11:25 - ^ might have to use 1/2 if your ganna match the vocal here.
03:31:25 - Is easy's spinner supposed to be shorter than Normal and Hards?

Just remember to Resnap All Notes when changing the BPM (and offset), and redo the breaks.

Normal-
01:38:17 (3,4) - move 1/4 back (or 1/2 and make (2) shorter by 1/2)
01:51:63 (5) - back 1/2
02:07:78 (4,5,6) - align this to make it straight
03:29:32 (4) - place on fading (2)

Aside from grid snapping at all, its fairly well placed. I don't like the whistle+clap mixes during the first chorus though, and slight sections just seem to sudden have no hitsounds at all.

Hard-
00:30:28 (5) - align with 4
00:37:40 (4) - place right under fading 2
00:50:86 (2) - places like this (where you place own beats) should have a hitsound imo
00:53:94 (2) - ^
01:03:17 (5,6,7) - make it to "perfect" square?
01:38:55 (4) - under fading 2
02:00:48 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - hitsounds please.
02:07:98 (8) - move lower (so 4-7-8 looks like line)
02:08:17 (9) - ^ (so 2-3-9 looks like line)
02:14:32 (11) - line it up
02:14:08 (10) - isn't snapped
02:15:91 (3,4) - aren't snapped
02:26:44 (11,12) - a bit higher and to left? (have 6 and 12 align?)

Same as Normal in terms of grid snap, and hitsounds (mainly the chorus whistle+clap mix in all three choruses).

Since you didn't use grid snap and most patterns seem to try to be straight lines, I think your maps would be easy to nazi (if the modder goes all out).
Most hitsounds are straight forward, and I don't mind the linear sliders... as long as you make beats seem linear (in pattern), too.

Overall, deserving of a star.

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Lizbeth wrote:

Shinxyn wrote:

Easy-
01:24:71 - the break's off
02:29:32 - the break's off

i don't know what u mean here.

Oh, I just meant the note ends a while before the break starts.
Like for the first one -> 01:24:31 (3) is the note before break, 01:24:89 is when break starts, there a gap there, nothing BIG, but... yea, you should still fix it (remove and re-place break).

now i get it
is fixed...
thnx Shinxyn

[Easy]
3:30:860(1)-> Finish(Suggestion)

[Normal]
2:12:395(3)-> Stack with (4) nicely. (Yeah, it's so minor)
3:30:860(1)-> Finish(Suggestion)

[Hard]
2:05:280(1)-> Extend 1/4 beat.
3:24:073(2)-> Sound doesn't go with the music. 1/2 beat backward.
3:30:860(1)-> Finish(Suggestion)

starred~


STAR EDIT.

thnx for the help minyeob
all fixed.
nice star thnks

would like to see it ranked. ;D

I wanna see it ranked

Stared!

thnx a lot for the stars u guys!
cool u like it.
any suggentions r welcome

great song, imo. but it would be better withouth these linear sliders... I don't like them so much, but anyway, it's just me.

Suggestion: Change to bézier or catmull-rom sliders. Not needed, but, imo, it would look better.

+Star~

I like the Linear sliders ;o!

thnx for checking,
about the linear sliders, i ll leave it that way, i decide that style for this beatmap, if i change it to curve, it will be a totally diferent map, and i dont want that. anyway thanks for the suggestions

also thnx for the stars

Hi, i make a new diff based in your hard diff.

And only a suggestion for bg with and without my diff. What do you think about?

Download: Avril Lavigne - Complicated (Lizbeth) [GbL's Difficulty].osu

GbL thanks for checking and for the diff... but just one thing... if u could make different the parts on your diff that are similar to Hard... cause is feeling like the same map in some parts. it ll be cool if your diff is way different. what do u think?
if u dont have time, ill understand..
btw... background is pretty cool...

cya!

Lizbeth wrote:

GbL thanks for checking and for the diff... but just one thing... if u could make different the parts on your diff that are similar to Hard... cause is feeling like the same map in some parts. it ll be cool if your diff is way different. what do u think?
if u dont have time, ill understand..
btw... background is pretty cool...

cya!

I do understand and i did some modd.

Download: Avril Lavigne - Complicated (Lizbeth) [GbL's Difficulty].osu

te recomiendo ke renombres y elimines... mira la cancion que esta en normal esta super facil cualkier noob la hace... la deberias de pasar a easy... y la de HARD a normal.. la cancion esta super padre y lleva el ritmo.. asaber porke no te la apruebamn.

gracias por tu comentario itachi666 pero lo dejare asi... el normal tiene 3.86 de star difficulty, creo que esta bien para un normal. y la verdad que esta cancion es tan calmada que no quiero hacer otro hard mas dificil que el que ya tengo.
ademas por tu rank, puede que te lo encuentres muy facil... pero no creo que un noob pase muy facilmente ese normal.
igual gracias por chekear el mapa
bye!

u welcome Liz, the skin looks great ^_^
and i like the new diff

Star!! n.n

Easy:
00:58:933: I feel like the spinner could go on for another half note.

Normal:
00:36:818: Probably shorten this one so it ends on the beat, instead of going slightly over the tick.
00:48:645: ^
00:58:933: Opposite of easy for some reason, feel like this could be shortened half a note.
01:53:741: Again, shorten it a half note so it's on the tick.

Can't really find anything huge with the other difficulties, though. Good job with the map.

Starred.

thanks for modding Ruduen
fixed everything

Nice skin Lissette, i looked now. And nice work Lizbeth.

You can ignore my spinner comments since there are no rules in the guidelines against it, but I've seen BAT's tell people to make it so auto gets 2000.

GbL:
00:37:78 (1) - I'm pretty sure this is not rankable. Auto should be able to get 2000 bonus on it.
00:40:85 (1) - ^
01:21:24 (5) - Align with 3.
01:55:85 (x) - Add a note here?
01:56:43 (x) - ^
02:05:27 (1) - Extend to the white tick.
02:21:62 (2,3,4) - Align with 1.
02:29:60 (1) - I'm pretty sure this is not rankable. Auto should be able to get 2000 bonus on it.
02:30:28 (1) - ^
03:33:54 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1) - Remove these? They sound bad and would be better if the spinner was the last thing.

Good job on the map and skin! Have a star !

Nexy wrote:

You can ignore my spinner comments since there are no rules in the guidelines against it, but I've seen BAT's tell people to make it so auto gets 2000.

GbL:
00:37:78 (1) - I'm pretty sure this is not rankable. Auto should be able to get 2000 bonus on it.
00:40:85 (1) - ^
01:21:24 (5) - Align with 3.
01:55:85 (x) - Add a note here?
01:56:43 (x) - ^
02:05:27 (1) - Extend to the white tick.
02:21:62 (2,3,4) - Align with 1.
02:29:60 (1) - I'm pretty sure this is not rankable. Auto should be able to get 2000 bonus on it.
02:30:28 (1) - ^
03:33:54 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1) - Remove these? They sound bad and would be better if the spinner was the last thing.

Good job on the map and skin! Have a star !

I make all your suggestions, thank you.
Here is Lizbeth:

Download: Avril Lavigne - Complicated (Lizbeth) [GbL's Difficulty].osu

great song
great skin
great gameplay!
i saw anything wrong, it's just perfect now
*STAR*

thnx for checking roxkyuubiforever

GbL wrote:

Nexy wrote:

You can ignore my spinner comments since there are no rules in the guidelines against it, but I've seen BAT's tell people to make it so auto gets 2000.

GbL:
00:37:78 (1) - I'm pretty sure this is not rankable. Auto should be able to get 2000 bonus on it.
00:40:85 (1) - ^
01:21:24 (5) - Align with 3.
01:55:85 (x) - Add a note here?
01:56:43 (x) - ^
02:05:27 (1) - Extend to the white tick.
02:21:62 (2,3,4) - Align with 1.
02:29:60 (1) - I'm pretty sure this is not rankable. Auto should be able to get 2000 bonus on it.
02:30:28 (1) - ^
03:33:54 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1) - Remove these? They sound bad and would be better if the spinner was the last thing.

Good job on the map and skin! Have a star !

I make all your suggestions, thank you.
Here is Lizbeth:

thnx for modding Nexy.
GbL i havent upload yet.. cuz im no in my pc right know... but tonight ill update, with the fixes.


thnx all for helping... and for taking your time checking



EDIT: Uploaded

Lizbeth, sou amigo do GBL, prazer ^^

-

Mapa muito bom, parabens ^^

[Easy]
very metronomic...all of the beats are in the exact same rhythm, every other white tick...so boring
02:03:54 (3) - OMG VARIETY! ITS A MIRACLE
really though your map feels like it has no soul :/


[Normal]
00:58:93 (1) - finish
01:08:93 (4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4) - too much whistle
01:23:54 (1) - finish
02:00:47 (5) - new combo
03:05:85 (7) - finish
map still feels kinda boring


[Hard]
01:23:54 (1) - finish
imo all your diffs could use finishes at the end of the musical phrases
03:05:85 (7) - finish



[Gbl]
00:25:85 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - uhhh...spacing?
00:38:93 (1,2,3,4,5) - ^
00:42:01 (1,2,3,4,5) - ^
you cant DO that it has to be proportional to the time. if you want jumps, make a new combo :<

Saturos-fangirl wrote:

[Gbl]
00:25:85 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - uhhh...spacing? fix
00:38:93 (1,2,3,4,5) - ^ fix
00:42:01 (1,2,3,4,5) - ^ fix

Download: Avril Lavigne - Complicated (Lizbeth) [GbL's Difficulty].osu

This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.

oh nice map and my favotite song!

as I see, the GBL's diffi is similar to hard diffi

it's mix diffi?

anyway star!

tsukamaete wrote:

oh nice map and my favotite song!

as I see, the GBL's diffi is similar to hard diffi

it's mix diffi?

anyway star!

one of my favorite songs too °¬°

and yeah GBL's diff is based on my Hard n_n

thanks for starrin'

[Easy]
Lower hitsound volume a bit
00:48:93 (2) - I expected a finish at the end
00:51:24 (4) - ^ finish at beginning and end
Its optional though
01:10:47 (4) - Clap at the end instead?
01:32:01 (4) - Align with 2 maybe? symmetry?
02:06:62 (1) - Finish?
02:22:01 (5) - Align with 3 maybe? symmetry? align 2 with 4
02:49:70 (7) - Align with 5

I like how easy it is~

[GBL]
00:12:78 (1) - Hitsound the end of the sliders maybe?
00:18:16 (x) - Note here?
00:48:74 (4) - Spacing is too far
00:53:74 (2) - This jumps doesn't feel right
01:02:01 (1,2,3,4) - This stack sounds off timed...
01:02:39 (x) - Maybe add a note here?
01:03:93 (x) - ^
01:25:08 (1) - Nice slider...but it needs to end earlier on the white tick
02:13:16 (x) - Add note here
02:14:31 (x) - Add note here
02:16:62 (x) - ^ then adjust spinner timing and length
02:29:60 (1) - Whistle here?
02:58:83 (8) - Move to red tick to the left?

[Hard]
00:39:51 (4) - add a whistle on 4 and 6
02:48:74 (5) - whistle on 5 and 7

[Normal]
01:03:54 (7,8) - symmetry with 5 and 6?

Honestly I thought some parts didn't seem mapped right...but I would consider thinking of changing your hitsound patterns at least.
I still starr'd it of course

thanks for helping Animask n_n
all fixed
also added some claps in all diff

thanks n_n
kds

[quote="animask"][GBL]
00:12:78 (1) - Hitsound the end of the sliders maybe?
00:18:16 (x) - Note here?
00:48:74 (4) - Spacing is too far
00:53:74 (2) - This jumps doesn't feel right
01:02:01 (1,2,3,4) - This stack sounds off timed...
01:02:39 (x) - Maybe add a note here?
01:03:93 (x) - ^
01:25:08 (1) - Nice slider...but it needs to end earlier on the white tick
02:13:16 (x) - Add note here
02:14:31 (x) - Add note here
02:16:62 (x) - ^ then adjust spinner timing and length
02:29:60 (1) - Whistle here?
02:58:83 (8) - Move to red tick to the left?[/quote]

Thanks.

Download: Avril Lavigne - Complicated (Lizbeth) [GbL's Difficulty].osu