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ALI PROJECT - Kyoumu Densen (TV Size)

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RL_Tibbar
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 2012年3月26日 at 17:45:56

Artist: ALI PROJECT
Title: Kyoumu Densen (TV Size)
Source: Another
Tags: opening
BPM: 145.1
Filesize: 2333kb
Play Time: 01:27
Difficulties Available:
  1. Hard (4.83 stars, 247 notes)
  2. Insane (5 stars, 320 notes)
  3. Normal (2.99 stars, 119 notes)
Download: ALI PROJECT - Kyoumu Densen (TV Size)
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regenz
General

your offset is not land on heavy beat.
use -602 instead of 225

are you sure you not use Kiai time? during chorus ?

Normal

OD 2 please OD 1 is too easy.

00:06:841 (1) - this spinner is very short for normal diff I think this lenght of spinner should appear only insane diff

try to use spinner atleast 4 beat duration. remember this is your easiest diff of mapset you shouldn't do this.

00:19:247 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - try to split combo some where.

00:57:293 (1,2) - finish head of slider

00:58:947 (3) - finish
00:59:774 (5,6,1) - stack this made gameplay easier.
01:03:082 (3) - new combo
01:05:563 (1) - finish
01:06:390 (3) - finish
01:06:804 (1) - finish end of slider
01:10:526 (4) - new combo and 01:12:180 (1) - remove new combo
01:26:033 (1) - spinner to short try to fix.
If you change hitsound made in normal plz apply to other diff also.

Hard

same suggestion about both spinner as normal

00:58:533 (4) - remove clap at tail sound better.

Insane

- 1 drain coz you don't NC oftern and it hard to regain health.

I think - 1 circle size is good here. but it's only suggestion

nice slider for me but i think it's better if you insert kiai time during chorus.

** first time i listen your song i don't think I 'll shoot a star for you but after mod and test play alot
I found this song is very addict.

So star! Great map for no rank mapper. :idea:

Goodluck
Topic Starter
RL_Tibbar
>regenz

thanks for your mod and star!! :)

all fixed and add the kiai time

but Insane diff , i think circle size 5 will better
---Assault[K]---
normal
approach +1 (4+1 =5) will look nicer.
hard
0:00-0:03 (2,3 4,5) hard to see.
insane
circle 4. 5 is ok but 4 is better to me.

dont have star ><
goodluck. jiayou.
Topic Starter
RL_Tibbar

---Assault[K]--- wrote:

normal
approach +1 (4+1 =5) will look nicer. fixed
hard
0:00-0:03 (2,3 4,5) hard to see. @w@ i think it not hard to see
insane
circle 4. 5 is ok but 4 is better to me. well,Maybe that will better , change to circle size 4 @w@

dont have star ><
goodluck. jiayou.
eikkaleyd
2333kb,233
Suzully
From my modding queue.

[General]

  • BPM should be 145.1.
[Normal]

  • At least HP+1. And AR-1 please because this is easiest diff.
  1. 00:00:225 (1) - Add finish.
  2. 00:00:638 (1) - Remove new combo.
  3. 01:00:187 (1) - Add finish to the end of slider.
[Hard]
  1. 00:00:225 (1) - Add finish.
  2. 00:00:638 (1) - Remove new combo.
  3. 00:50:883 (7) - If you can, please avoid putting note under slidertrack. Any notes shouldn't be under slidertrack on NOT Insane diff.
  4. 01:06:390 (6,7,1,2) - Player will be confused. Please change the pattern...for example...try to stack (1) with (6).
  5. 01:20:451 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Too difficult pattern as hard diff. I recommend you to change them to easier one if you can.
[Insane]
  1. 00:06:428 (1,2,3) - These notes don't follow the music. They should be in 1/3 like below.
  2. 00:12:631 (6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Hmm...it's very hard to read these notes...Let me explain the reason. First, the stream started with the end of slider. If it started with a circle, playing it will be easier. Second, some notes are stacked with each other, so hard to read. You did put notes with following the music correctly, so what you should do to improve your map is only re-considering the pattern and the formation.
  3. 00:15:732 (10,1) - It's kinda hard to read timing of two notes because (1) is too far from (10) after quick triple. How about placing (5,6,7,8,9,10) like below?
  4. 00:37:339 (6,7) - I think it's better to stack (6) with (7). That's easier to read imo.
  5. 01:00:601 (3) - Add finish to the top of slider.
  6. 01:05:977 (2,3,4,5) - Oh...player cannot play this pattern...please put them with normal DS...
  7. 01:10:939 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - Same suggestion as 00:12:631 (6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8). How about changing some notes to repeat-slider?
Overall good map!
But Insane has some confusing patterns, they are not so good to be played.
Try to get more mods. I guess your map will be much better!
Star for now, good luck! :D
Topic Starter
RL_Tibbar
>Suzully

thanks for your mod and star!!

all fixed!!
716 Girl
normal
00:53:981 (3) - oh looks ugly
01:20:445 (1) - http://puu.sh/ijNc hm looks wry
Hard
00:36:616 (3,4) - spacing
00:50:676 (6) - NC?
Insane
00:13:182 (1,2,3) - spacing
00:44:266 (5) - NC?
Topic Starter
RL_Tibbar

3er123 wrote:

normal
00:53:981 (3) - oh looks ugly Hmm...i dont think so
01:20:445 (1) - http://puu.sh/ijNc hm looks wry what?wry?yes,this is my style
Hard
00:36:616 (3,4) - spacing well,this is stack
00:50:676 (6) - NC? fixed
Insane
00:13:182 (1,2,3) - spacing Thats No Problem

00:44:266 (5) - NC? fixed
Zorlok_
From mmq

[Normal]
00:05:600 (1) - maybe remove nc?
00:22:554 (1) - place it on the main vertical
01:27:268 (1) - begin spinner here, I think it's puzzled newcomers

[Hard]
00:40:748 (1) - remove nc, coz it and this 00:28:757 (1) - parts are same, but here - 00:28:757 (1) - one nc
01:04:318 (1) - remove nc
01:10:934 (1) - ^
01:23:753 (1) - stack with 01:22:926 (1) -

[Imcane]
It's good.
eikkaleyd
看样子有顺利呢w努力攒星吧toto~≧▽≦)/~如果我能看出什么问题也来mod……
Topic Starter
RL_Tibbar

Zorlok_ wrote:

From mmq

[Normal]
00:05:600 (1) - maybe remove nc? no, sorry
00:22:554 (1) - place it on the main vertical
01:27:268 (1) - begin spinner here, I think it's puzzled newcomers

[Hard]
00:40:748 (1) - remove nc, coz it and this 00:28:757 (1) - parts are same, but here - 00:28:757 (1) - one nc
01:04:318 (1) - remove nc
01:10:934 (1) - ^
01:23:753 (1) - stack with 01:22:926 (1) -

[Imcane]
It's good.

fixed

eikkaleyd wrote:

看样子有顺利呢w努力攒星吧toto~≧▽≦)/~如果我能看出什么问题也来mod…… 欢迎欢迎@3@
-Baby Strawberry-
mod来啦~!

【Insane】diff
SPOILER
00:01:568 (2) - 像这种三连击,包括拉条之间的三连击,spacing我觉得稍再大点会感觉好点,不过看你啦~!
00:20:900 (1) - 开头的clap有点响,可以考虑减小音量
00:38:474 (9,1) - 我觉得跳的有点突然
00:43:643 (4,1) - 遮挡不好看啦
00:46:537 (5,6,7) - 这个形状对我来说算不上好看。。。如果这样会不会好看点?http://puu.sh/kuy8
00:54:187 (7,8) - 这个遮挡也不太好看啦。。。
01:13:002 (1,2,3,4) - 这个跳得也有点过了吧。。。

【Hard】diff
SPOILER
00:40:748 (7) - NC?
00:58:116 (3,4) - hard的话这种跳大了,建议两个挨得近一些,依旧保持对称
【Normal】diff
SPOILER
好一个2.99星 OvO
没发现问题

继续加油~! :)
Topic Starter
RL_Tibbar

-Baby Strawberry- wrote:

mod来啦~!

【Insane】diff
SPOILER
00:01:568 (2) - 像这种三连击,包括拉条之间的三连击,spacing我觉得稍再大点会感觉好点,不过看你啦~!保存现在这样吧
00:20:900 (1) - 开头的clap有点响,可以考虑减小音量 不觉得._.
00:38:474 (9,1) - 我觉得跳的有点突然 既然是最高难度,没几个坑爹的地方怎么行
00:43:643 (4,1) - 遮挡不好看啦 Fixed
00:46:537 (5,6,7) - 这个形状对我来说算不上好看。。。如果这样会不会好看点?http://puu.sh/kuy8 Fixed
00:54:187 (7,8) - 这个遮挡也不太好看啦。。。 我觉得还行._.
01:13:002 (1,2,3,4) - 这个跳得也有点过了吧。。。 ._.既然是最高难度,没几个坑爹的地方怎么行


【Hard】diff
SPOILER
00:40:748 (7) - NC? Fixed
00:58:116 (3,4) - hard的话这种跳大了,建议两个挨得近一些,依旧保持对称 Fixed

【Normal】diff
SPOILER
好一个2.99星 OvO
没发现问题

继续加油~! :)
Melophobia
Normal
00:07:668 (1) - add a finish here
00:09:322 (1) - add a finish to the beginning
01:12:175 (4) - newcombo
01:18:791 (4) - ^
01:25:407 (3) - ^

Hard
00:09:322 (4,1) - switch newcombos
00:09:322 (4) - add a finish to the beginning
01:25:149 (4) - Unsnapped slider (end).

Insane
Slider tick rate 2
00:30:824 (5,1) - switch newcombos
01:05:559 - increase volume by 10%
01:12:175 - ^
01:12:175 (1) - add a finish to the beginning
01:13:829 (1) - Hidden reverse arrow
01:20:445 - increase volume by 10%

nice map! 加油~
Sparash
Hi, great map ! Just some things that come to mind :

- The offset seems to be off a very little bit. After some testing -617 offset feels more "spot on" for me. Just move everything with it and be sure to reflect the change on your timing sections as well (minus 15 millisecs) since all kinds of problems spring out of nowhere if you don't, and resnap. Of course you could play with it a bit to find a better value, that was just my opinion. :D

- Other than that I think the hard diff has too many jumps for a hard diff, or maybe I just suck at handling jumps ...

- The OP video would be nice too in the background since this is the TV Size version after all.

- And lastly I noticed the beat snap divisors are set to 1/1 on hard and insane though you've clearly used 1/4. Is that intentional :?:
Topic Starter
RL_Tibbar

Melophobia wrote:

Normal
00:07:668 (1) - add a finish here
00:09:322 (1) - add a finish to the beginning
01:12:175 (4) - newcombo
01:18:791 (4) - ^
01:25:407 (3) - ^

Hard
00:09:322 (4,1) - switch newcombos
00:09:322 (4) - add a finish to the beginning
01:25:149 (4) - Unsnapped slider (end).

Insane
Slider tick rate 2
00:30:824 (5,1) - switch newcombos
01:05:559 - increase volume by 10%
01:12:175 - ^
01:12:175 (1) - add a finish to the beginning
01:13:829 (1) - Hidden reverse arrow sorry,I don't understand
01:20:445 - increase volume by 10%

nice map! 加油~

Sparash wrote:

Hi, great map ! Just some things that come to mind :

- The offset seems to be off a very little bit. After some testing -617 offset feels more "spot on" for me. Just move everything with it and be sure to reflect the change on your timing sections as well (minus 15 millisecs) since all kinds of problems spring out of nowhere if you don't, and resnap. Of course you could play with it a bit to find a better value, that was just my opinion. :D -617 better

- Other than that I think the hard diff has too many jumps for a hard diff, or maybe I just suck at handling jumps ... ._.cause it's “HARD”

- The OP video would be nice too in the background since this is the TV Size version after all. hmm..cos i dont like video when i play

- And lastly I noticed the beat snap divisors are set to 1/1 on hard and insane though you've clearly used 1/4. Is that intentional :?: 8-)
Sparash
I think you forgot to move the time sections back by 15 from the offset change because the problems I said are there now !

Most noticably is:

[Hard]
00:08:066 (1) - This slider gets pushed to the last time section where the slider speed is different and makes it longer which causes a serious error.

Also a few of the hit sounds get changed because of this.

Just go to the timing setup panel, select all time sections other than the red one and fill the "Move selected offsets by:" with -15 and press "Move" and everything gets back where it's supposed to be :D

And about the video you could just play it with the "No Video" option, though it's completely your decision, that was just a suggestion.

What Melophobia said about "hidden reverse arrow" is that you can't see the arrow that shows the slider goes back and forth from when it appears a few moments ago. But since it is the Insane diff, it doesn't matter as much as it would with other diffs I guess.

Good luck and thanks for the kudos you gave :)
Scorpiour
Hi there~~mod from queue
抱歉耽误了很久>.<

General:
  1. 我觉得Countdown感觉不是很好,关掉吧。
Normal:
  1. 00:19:231 - 从这里开始到01:00:168 - 为止,Clap听的有些太重了感觉略违和,考虑把hitsounds的音量降低一些?另外两个diff类似所以就不再单说了
  2. 00:48:176 (5) - 去掉结尾clap吧感觉不是很好听
  3. 00:51:484 (5) - ^
  4. 00:52:312 (1) - 考虑改finish?
  5. 00:55:620 (2) - ^,并且把这组NC从这里开始?
  6. 01:05:544 (1,2,3) - 这种遮挡放在Normal里感觉很容易给新手造成读图障碍。。考虑做成一个四边形的pattern?
  7. 蛮不错的diff,给一点点小的额外建议。因为clap的打击感比较强,如果可以的话考虑在遇到clap的时候都会有"click"这个动作会让图的可玩性更强一点,也会给玩家多一些的带入感。现在很多clap都落在了slider的折返或者结尾上了。
Hard:
  1. 00:00:210 (1,2,3) - 感觉这三个叠起来效果会更好?
  2. 00:41:767 (6) - 考虑删掉?
  3. 01:05:751 (2,3,4,5) - 这里的三连应该从(2)的红线开始会舒服很多,也就是说(2,3,4)一组三连,然后(5)的1/2
Insane:
  1. 考虑AR9?
  2. 00:08:480 (2,3,4,5) - 感觉把这个四个排开或者两两的stack会更好一点?
  3. 00:16:750 (5,6,7) - 唔这种反向的stack排列怎么说呢……不是很推荐这么用……
  4. 00:37:322 (6) - 这个二连下的有一点莫名……
恩图不错,给星闪人~
Topic Starter
RL_Tibbar

Sparash wrote:

I think you forgot to move the time sections back by 15 from the offset change because the problems I said are there now !

Most noticably is:

[Hard]
00:08:066 (1) - This slider gets pushed to the last time section where the slider speed is different and makes it longer which causes a serious error.

Also a few of the hit sounds get changed because of this.

Just go to the timing setup panel, select all time sections other than the red one and fill the "Move selected offsets by:" with -15 and press "Move" and everything gets back where it's supposed to be :D

And about the video you could just play it with the "No Video" option, though it's completely your decision, that was just a suggestion.

What Melophobia said about "hidden reverse arrow" is that you can't see the arrow that shows the slider goes back and forth from when it appears a few moments ago. But since it is the Insane diff, it doesn't matter as much as it would with other diffs I guess.

Good luck and thanks for the kudos you gave :)

thanks for you mod,all fix._.

Scorpiour wrote:

Hi there~~mod from queue
抱歉耽误了很久>.<

General:
  1. 我觉得Countdown感觉不是很好,关掉吧。
Normal:
  1. 00:19:231 - 从这里开始到01:00:168 - 为止,Clap听的有些太重了感觉略违和,考虑把hitsounds的音量降低一些?另外两个diff类似所以就不再单说了 我喜欢高音量的音效._.
  2. 00:48:176 (5) - 去掉结尾clap吧感觉不是很好听 这个clap有很大意义
  3. 00:51:484 (5) - ^ ^
  4. 00:52:312 (1) - 考虑改finish? finish没有打击感
  5. 00:55:620 (2) - ^,并且把这组NC从这里开始? NO
  6. 01:05:544 (1,2,3) - 这种遮挡放在Normal里感觉很容易给新手造成读图障碍。。考虑做成一个四边形的pattern?
  7. 蛮不错的diff,给一点点小的额外建议。因为clap的打击感比较强,如果可以的话考虑在遇到clap的时候都会有"click"这个动作会让图的可玩性更强一点,也会给玩家多一些的带入感。现在很多clap都落在了slider的折返或者结尾上了。 目测改的话要remap,我是懒逼
Hard:
  1. 00:00:210 (1,2,3) - 感觉这三个叠起来效果会更好?
  2. 00:41:767 (6) - 考虑删掉? NO
  3. 01:05:751 (2,3,4,5) - 这里的三连应该从(2)的红线开始会舒服很多,也就是说(2,3,4)一组三连,然后(5)的1/2 ._.一点也不好
Insane:
  1. 考虑AR9? 各种因素,选择AR8
  2. 00:08:480 (2,3,4,5) - 感觉把这个四个排开或者两两的stack会更好一点?
  3. 00:16:750 (5,6,7) - 唔这种反向的stack排列怎么说呢……不是很推荐这么用…… 我喜欢这样
  4. 00:37:322 (6) - 这个二连下的有一点莫名…… 这二连有各种意义
恩图不错,给星闪人~
popner
Hi ~ Mod request from My Queue.

Just suggestions:

[General]

有video没?有的话最好加上

[Normal]

没看出什么

[Hard]

01:07:198 (3) - 头部加finish

[Insane]

00:33:704 (5,6) - overlap到了
00:44:248 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - 做成对称
00:52:105 (1) - Remove NC
00:52:312 (2) - NC
01:07:198 (3) - 头部加finish

That's all I can find. GL~
Topic Starter
RL_Tibbar

popner wrote:

Hi ~ Mod request from My Queue.

Just suggestions:

[General]

有video没?有的话最好加上 不加

[Normal]

没看出什么

[Hard]

01:07:198 (3) - 头部加finish

[Insane]

00:33:704 (5,6) - overlap到了
00:44:248 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - 做成对称
00:52:105 (1) - Remove NC 跟vocal,NC
00:52:312 (2) - NC NO
01:07:198 (3) - 头部加finish

That's all I can find. GL~
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