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Tears for Fears vs. Eric Prydz - Shout vs. Pjanoo [Osu|Taiko

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Behon
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Tuesday, January 31, 2017 at 11:28:51 PM

Artist: Tears for Fears vs. Eric Prydz
Title: Shout vs. Pjanoo
Source: DJ Hero
Tags: MM mmzz guitar hero activision turntable disc jockey techno dance
BPM: 126.03
Filesize: 24241kb
Play Time: 03:29
Difficulties Available:
  1. Easy (1.65 stars, 138 notes)
  2. Hard (2.6 stars, 330 notes)
  3. MM's Taiko (3.43 stars, 844 notes)
  4. Normal (1.99 stars, 227 notes)
Download: Tears for Fears vs. Eric Prydz - Shout vs. Pjanoo
Download: Tears for Fears vs. Eric Prydz - Shout vs. Pjanoo (no video)
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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3/16: Made most of Leorda's changes. Also got rid of .osb and changed the audio on the song and hitsounds to be quieter.
3/23: Fixed the offset and made Blue Dragon's changes.
4/21: Made Hushu's changes to Normal.
5/2: Made some of yangzd88's changes.
5/7: Added MMzz's Taiko difficulty.
8/29: Made changes suggested by eldnl, including reverting the soft slider tick back to the default one.
3/5: Back from the dead! Please mod this if you can, I really want this one to get ranked.
5/14: Made some of merchat7's suggested changes.
6/7: Made changes suggested by xxheroxx.
6/28: Replaced video with a better one from DarkSkyKnight, compressed the background image a bit, deleted the OSB file, and made some changes suggested by Midasmens.
4/16: Back from the dead again. Not giving up on this one!
6/4: Made some changes suggested by OEvil.
1/31/17: Resurrected from a long slumber, because I was always fond of this one.
Leorda
I came.....

General
1) When I hear the song, I came out with loud sound. Can you lower the sound in Audacity, or something? Otherwise, I could be hurt for player's ear
2) Why there is "guitar" inside the tags?

Easy
00:23:219 (1) - Too far from spinner. You need to move this object as near as possible for spinner, or the beginner player can't reach that notes during gameplay
00:38:454 (1) - ^

00:38:930 (2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - This pattern seems not interesting for me. Try make combine 2, 3 or 4 circle into 1 or 2 sliders, that should be interesting
00:57:497 (1,2,3) - You copy paste the pattern from 00:53:689 (1,2,3)?
01:23:920 (1,2,3) - IMO, placing in red ticks can be tricky for beginner player. But, just suggestion since it follow the rhythm
01:50:343 (1) - Move 1 grid left? (Nazi)
01:50:343 (1,4) - This slider are rough to see http://puu.sh/1c4q Try making a slider clean and neat
02:17:481 (1) - I think 1/2 repeating slider too much makes beginner player hard to tell how many repeating slider they are, can you remove or change it?
02:28:669 (2,1) - Can you make a circle and slider between them? It feels empty for me D:
02:59:377 (1) - Move 1 grid right? (Nazi)
03:03:185 (3) - New combo?
03:22:229 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - These pattern/object seems boring. Can you make this pattern more interesting?

Normal

00:24:171 (4) - Please silence the sildertick sound in this slider. Because when I hear the slidertick that place in red tick, it's kinda weird sound on it. So I suggest you to silence that ticks
00:26:075 (4) - ^
00:27:980 (4) - ^
00:29:884 (4) - ^
00:31:789 (4) - ^
00:33:693 (4) - ^
00:38:454 (1) - A bit too far from spinner. You have to move it closer to spinner, or the average player can reach that note during gameplay

00:58:450 (3,4,5) - Move 2 grid left? (Nazi)
01:04:639 (6) - New combo?
01:04:639 (6) - Again, silence the slidertick, or it will be weird to hear it
02:09:863 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - IMO, this is kinda boring to me. Make it interesting?
02:17:481 (1,2) - I think 1/2 repeating slider too much makes average player hard to tell how many repeating slider they are, can you remove or change it?
03:14:611 (1,2,3,4,5) - These finish hitsound make my ear hurt T_T
03:16:516 (1,2,3,4,5) - ^


Hard

00:17:506 (3) - New combo?
01:45:821 (6) - These slider are ugly, try make it like this http://puu.sh/1c7I

Sorry for long mod orz
Froslass
General
Is it just me or the offset is a bit late? Try 15685

Easy
00:30:920 (1) - I don't want to be a slider nazi, but this is a bit off. Try moving the endpoint 1 grid up and 1 grid right.
00:32:825 (2) - ^
01:04:247 (3) - add finish?
01:52:570 (3) - Maybe remove this note? May be a bit newbie-unfriendly :P
02:23:278 (2) - add finish at end? would be pretty awesome :P
02:27:086 (3) - ^
02:28:753 (2) - Same as 01:52:570 (3)
02:55:652 (1) - Add finish at start? (only before repeat though)

Normal
02:24:008 (6) - add whistle and finish? :P
03:26:614 (5,6) - 1 grid right ~ sorry for being nazi

Hard
Epic awesome.


MAN. I am IN LOVE with this map. Seriously. Take a star. I am REALLY sorry for not giving you a kd star, because I don't have enough kd. Don't let this go to graveyard. PLEASE.

Could I make a guest insane? ;_;
Topic Starter
Behon

Blue Dragon wrote:

General
MAN. I am IN LOVE with this map. Seriously. Take a star. I am REALLY sorry for not giving you a kd star, because I don't have enough kd. Don't let this go to graveyard. PLEASE.

Could I make a guest insane? ;_;
Glad you like it. And yes, you're welcome to make an Insane once I change the timing points and update. The only suggestion I'll make for it is to make good use of all the sound effects, because I'm seeing a lot of maps these days that skimp a lot on one type for some reason.
Hushu_old
Easy:
0:57:580 - Could this combo be possibly switched horizontally? Then you can turn the blue slider after too so no problems as such.
1:02:579 - move that 1/2 back, place a note 1/2 later instead after.
2:25:181 - Okay, kinda the same thing as I've said for 0:57:580.

Normal:
1:25:432 - I think this is where that slider should finish and then you should add beats at 1:25:908, 1:26:146. It seems to suit after listening to it a few times :)
1:40:429 - Copy the shape of the previous slider to place here so its more symmetrical... And It would look nice if it would come out out of the same point that the previous slider did as well~
1:44:237 - ^

The hard is fine, there maybe are some not needed 1/1 but the play overall is very inresting ;)

I would like some other color choice - the can to the left has the main four. They are quite a different shade to the ones you got, would be lovely if you done your best to match them with your combo colours~
Curisu
[Combo color]
Default Combo color is a little bit weird..So I suggest you to use a

new one.
Combo1 : 0,128,255
Combo2 : 255,128,255
Combo3 : 255,255,0

[Easy]
01:31:383 - Add a circle?New comer can't find the rhyhm easily.
01:54:592 (1) - slience it.
02:36:607 (1) - ^
03:27:549 (1) - ^

[Normal]
Slience the slider above.
01:33:049 (5) - add a circle in 01:33:049, and move it 1/2 later.
02:29:942 - whistle
02:55:175 - add a circle?

[Hard]
01:03:056 (1) - remove new combo?
01:03:294 (2) - new combo?

star
Topic Starter
Behon

yangzd88 wrote:

01:33:049 (5) - add a circle in 01:33:049, and move it 1/2 later.
Not quite sure what you mean by this, because there's already a slider in this spot, and removing it for one circle would seem a little sparse.

And for people wondering about the combo colors, they're done to match the buttons on the turntable controller.
MMzz
can I make a taiko? This song is so awesome.
Topic Starter
Behon
Go for it.
Froslass
I am really sorry for not finishing my difficulty. I should have some problems on this week, so expect it in a week or so.
MMzz
eldnl
[General]

- Add mmzz to tags, he made a difficulty.
- That slidertick sounds really weird when I play the map. I suggest to change it for some more gentle.
Everything else looks fine.

[Easy]

00:53:772 - Why when the kiai start everything looks more slow and boring? Maybe you can add more notes here. Use this same suggestion to the others kiai time.
01:31:621 (1) The "claps" here sounds bad, don't fit with the music.
01:39:476 (3,4,1,2,3) The claps in these notes sounds really bad, I suggest to change it for normal claps, sounds too much better. Same in the next notes, this don't fit with the music.
02:28:990 (2) You use a horizontal flip here of the first kiai time, but this slider don't start at the same time, change it to the red tick.

[Normal]

Same hitsounds suggestions in the easy difficulty, that clap sounds weird...
01:01:389 - These pattern maybe are a bit hard for a normal, are only a row of notes.
02:17:564 (1,2) So many repeats, this can confuse the player making not know when to press the next slider.

[Hard]

Everything looks fine here, just the suggestion of hitsounds.

The taiko diff is <3
Starred.
Froslass
I am a very very bad person and I should be ashamed for doing what I did.
merchat7
As requested (m4m),

[General]

- Hero isn't really needed in tags since it's in source, but if you did this so that people can find this song if they search guitar hero in game then it's fine. If you just added these tags so they can find this on website, please remove.
- Video is extremely low quality, I assume you found this on youtube due to .flv. If you have the game, perhaps record this yourself, or perhaps find a better source. If source is 4:3, be sure to remove letterbox during breaks, it's fine right now since it's 16:9, the letterbox would be where the black bar is anyway and since the background is 4:3, letterbox would work properly for those who play without video.
- Red point should be move to -26 (only the red timing point, nothing else need to be adjust) so that menu pulsing works properly at the part you didn't map in the beginning
- 58% timing point is a bit weird, why not just 60%? And it seem you use it for the entire map. I doubt for the entire song, 58% is going to fit perfectly, perhaps adjust so that it's softer for calmer parts and louder for the more intense parts.

Well that's all I think

[Easy]

00:34:728 (1) - Should lower the volume of this spinner a bit.
00:38:537 (1,2) - I suggest doing a slider here, since this is what you are doing with the hitsound W > n > W > custom, notice that n isn't emphasized, so a slider fits perfectly as a slider end isn't emphasized.
00:40:441 (1,2) - ^
00:42:346 (1,2) - ^ Repeating slider as an alternative would works as well, this many hit circles in a row isn't nice to see in an Easy.
00:44:250 (1,2) - ^ and continuing from above, would emphasize (4) a whole lot better since judging by the hitsounds, you wanted to emphasize (4) the most.
00:55:676 (2,3) - Why not just remove (3) and add a repeat to (2). Doing hit circle really feel flow breaking, since it seems you are suggesting that the song have a break here and it makes 00:57:580 (1) quite uncomfortable to hit.
01:05:198 (1) - Lower the volume of this spinner a bit
01:25:194 (2,3) - To represent the echo of the vocal a bit, how about doing repeating starting on (2) and ending on (3), repeat is on the white tick in between them.
01:31:621 (1) - This short 1/1 kick slider isn't really recommended in the easiest diff, the previous 2/1 kick slider was a bit more acceptable as you have plenty of time to react to the extra repeat, but here you have 2x less time to react. Perhaps try 2 sliders, or 1 repeating slider then a hit circle after.
01:33:763 (x) - Note here? Rather empty here.
01:34:716 (1,2,3) - Considering how you stack at 01:00:913 (1,2), stack (1,2) on (3). If not, stack (1) & (2) on each other?
02:09:946 (1,2) - Try some awesome wiggles viewtopic.php?f=56&t=37194, if you can get the bump on where the ticks are, it'll really make this part feel really amazing.
02:13:755 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - I'll be honest, I don't really like to see 8 hit circles + in a row in an Easy. perhaps switch the second (1,2,3,4) and the kick slider around so you get a slider break after the circles? Or consider something else maybe.
02:24:705 (3,1) - I would definitely do a short repeating slider here to follow the dj mixing sound.
02:27:086 (1,1,2) - Copy and paste ? :S 00:59:485 (3,1,2). Ctrl+J or other thing to make this less noticeable?
02:31:847 (3) - Make slider shape more like this so that it's point to the hit circle? http://puu.sh/jNOh
02:53:747 (3) - I really don't like how whistle sound on slider body, consider removing it.
03:04:459 (2) - Just incase you're wondering why I'm find with this kick slider, I feel that it fits with the song feel perfectly and seem intuitive enough, you should still fix the one at 01:31:621 through (perhaps at the part during 02:13:755 too, if you have an idea).
03:12:790 (4) - Same as 02:53:747.
03:18:503 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6) - 2 hit circles, one slider 2 hit circles one slider, etc. instead?

I'm not too fond of this mapping style for Easy due to high circle usage and you didn't seem to try too many slider shapes, but this map is quite old and it seem to fit well with the song so I guess it's fine.

[Normal]

00:17:589 (3,4,5,6) - Consider two sliders since you did W > n > W > n here, refer to easy for more details.
00:23:302 (1,2,3) - I would just do short repeating slider here. The pattern overlaps which make it doesn't look that great. Will not mention again. Repeating sliders, I believe will allow you to come up with more interesting patterns, since it seem your pattern are all mainly straight lines to right/left/up/down, perhaps some diagonal, mix some straight line in there and etc. would make this beatmap a lot more interesting to play.
00:38:537 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Just pointing out why I don't like this diff and easy much, there is technically nothing wrong with this pattern, but it is interesting to look at or fun to play? This is why I suggest sliders so you have a bit of room to work with, it's hard imo to place lot of hit circles in an interesting way with the exception of Hard/Insane where you can change the spacing of each hit circles.
00:54:724 (2) - Why not place like this? http://puu.sh/jNRn
00:59:485 (5) - Very noticeable unsymmetrical slider, highly recommend to fix it considering how most of your sliders are quite solid from what I've seen so far.
01:00:913 (6) - I'm very motivated to say do a short slider starting here and ending on the next red tick to follow the "dj's" sound a bit, but may be too hard for Normal.
01:04:246 (x) - Really flow breaking for me not to have any notes here, how about a slider and end it where 01:04:722 (5) is (remove 5 of course).
01:42:333 (x) - I would definitely put something here.
02:13:755 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - same thing as 00:38:537.
02:25:181 (1,2,3) - Do something similar to what I suggest for 00:54:724

A lot more general mod for this one, since like in Easy, there is nothing really wrong, but pattern isn't too exciting to play.

[Hard]

- Why is everything distance snapped (or is ai mod lying to me)? Not going to mention stuff like this 00:17:589 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) since I more or less mention them in the other diff. you should do jump for parts like this imo.
00:23:302 (1,2,3,4) - Just suggestion, some anti jumps instead?
00:25:206 (1,2,3,4) - ^
00:27:111 (1,2,3,4) - ^
00:29:015 - 00:33:776 - Now this is more interesting
00:38:537 (1,2,3,4,5) - :(
00:39:965 (6) - I feel you concentrate your mapping to the center too much, how about rotating this slider by 90 degrees to make the map spread out to the sides a bit more.
00:41:869 (6) - ^
01:03:056 (1) - Since you've been following drum, since this is follow vocal, it felt extremely weird to play for me. I don't really have a suggestion on how to change this, but just giving a head ups.
03:15:647 (7) - Unsymmetrical slider, consider fixing

Not too many suggestions, since it's more or less the same as what I mention before.This diff could be a lot better imo, for a song like this, I can imagine some interesting speed changes usage, some nice usage of anti jumps, cool looking overlaps and unique slider shapes, but unfortunately, I see next to none in this map :/

I guess a year ago, this map would have been good, but compare to most map that I've recently played, I find this beatmap a little lacking. Good job on hitsounds through, it's pretty good, but patterns feel comparable to the older osu maps. I notice you're quite an experienced mapper so I really think you could do so much more with the map. Well this is just my opinion, I'm sure there are people who'll like this.

No star because of this, but good luck
Diasios
[General]

  • The quality of the video could be better in my opinion; you should replace this with a better one.
    Remove letterbox during breaks.
    Preview Point: 00:54:724.
    00:53:772 (green timing section) - Move this timing section at 00:54:724 (white tick).
    01:39:476 (green timing section) - Move this timing section at 01:40:429 (white tick).
    02:21:372 (green timing section) - Move this timing section at 02:22:325 (white tick).
    02:51:842 (green timing section) - Move this timing section at 02:52:794 (white tick).

[Easy]

  • 01:01:151 (2) - End this slider at 01:02:341 (white tick).
    02:27:086 (1) - Remove "New Combo".
    02:28:752 (2) - End this slider at 02:29:942 (white tick).
    03:26:121 (5) - Add "New Combo".

[Normal]

  • 03:27:549 (7) - Add "New Combo".
DarkSkyKnight
Better quality: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4mIiFwVI8E

[Easy]
01:00:913 (1,2) - hmm..the percussion in the music makes this sounds like an error. I don't know how you could solve that though.
How about AR+1. I don't know...

[Normal]
I can't see anything wrong..but
I suggest using more curved sliders.

[Hard]

00:23:302 (1) - Adopt something else rather than straight lines maybe?

Just a few suggestions.

00:30:919 (1,2,3,4,5) - The positioning feels awkward in a way, because it's quite different from the previous combos.

nice beatmap :)
Midasmens
Hi~ Midas here....
M4M

General
BG file is too big~ It's nearly 1M lol
delete the .osb file ><

Easy
00:46:154 - drag the break to here
00:37:585 - too loud here make the spinner silence
01:08:769 - ^
01:29:955 - add finish
01:52:331 (2) - add clap
02:01:377 - silence
02:53:747 (1) - clap on repeat and end
02:58:507 (4,5) - remove whistle and add clap here

Normal
00:19:493 - remove finish
00:37:585 - same as Easy
01:08:769 - ^
02:01:377 - ^
02:28:514 (1,2) - clap

Hard
00:38:061 - silence
00:46:154 - drag break to here
01:08:769 - silence
02:01:377 - ^
02:32:561 (6) - clap at start
03:03:506 (3) - clap
03:18:979 (1,2,4,5) - clap
03:20:884 (1,2,4,5) - ^
03:22:788 (1,2,4,5) - ^
03:24:692 (1,2,4,5,7,8) - ^

OK~ That's it~
The map is 1 year ago~ lol
Nothing to say about the mapset
Just some suggestions about hitsound


Hope I can help you~

٩(๑╹◡╹๑)۶
OEvil
[Hey, M4M]
sorry if my mod sucks

[General]
Tags:
- Consider adding "MM" to all of your tags

[Easy]
One Thing
01:26:622 - Add a circle at {x:352 y:152}. Hmm, I am Not Sure From my Placement :P

[Normal]
Awesome But This Is Cool imo:
- 00:15:684 (1) - Remove this circle.
- 00:15:685 - Add a slider from here until 00:15:923.
- 00:16:637 (2) - Remove this circle.
- 00:16:637 - Add a slider from here until 00:16:875.

[Hard]
Awesome But This Is Cool imo:
- 00:15:684 (1,2) - Same As Normal
- 00:15:684 (1) - Remove this circle.
- 00:15:685 - Add a slider from here until 00:15:923.
- 00:16:637 (2) - Remove this circle.
- 00:16:637 - Add a slider from here until 00:16:875.
- 00:17:589 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - The Hit Sound Was Cool In Normal And Easy Make Them Like Normal And Easy
- 02:19:468 (1) - Yes it is following the beat but make it neat or add a small slider with repeat
- or Since it is hard remove the slider and add 1/2 stream
- 02:19:706 - Add a circle at {x:222 y:288} with a clap if you want.
- 02:19:944 - Add a circle at {x:301 y:288} with a clap if you want.
- 02:20:182 - Add a circle at {x:380 y:288} with a clap if you want.
- 02:20:420 - Add a circle at {x:459 y:288} with a clap if you want.
- 02:20:658 - Add a circle at {x:459 y:208} with a clap if you want.
- 02:20:896 - Add a circle at {x:459 y:128} with a clap if you want.
- 02:21:134 - Add a circle at {x:459 y:48} with a clap if you want.

Finally I hope you like my mod
And I hope the song get ranked fast
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