This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Sunday, January 31, 2010 at 10:38:39 PM

Artist: Taiko no Tatsujin
Title: Rotter Tarmination
Tags: AnGelL
BPM: 200
Filesize: 1915kb
Play Time: 01:47
Difficulties Available:

1. AnGelL's Hard (4.97 stars, 254 notes)
2. AnGelL's Insane (5 stars, 317 notes)
3. AnGelL's Normal+ (2.66 stars, 123 notes)
4. Roko-Don's Taiko (4.94 stars, 825 notes)
5. Taiko Easy (2.79 stars, 185 notes)
6. Taiko Hard (4.83 stars, 443 notes)
7. Taiko Inner Oni (4.83 stars, 945 notes)
8. Taiko Normal (4.37 stars, 252 notes)
9. Taiko Oni (4.83 stars, 683 notes)

Download: Taiko no Tatsujin - Rotter Tarmination
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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A Namco Original song released first for Taiko no Tatsujin 12 and Taiko Wii. The name is a corruption of an older song 'Rotterdam Nation', but the music itself has nothing to do with it. The Inner Oni difficulty can only be unlocked in the arcade version and stands now as the hardest ever in the entire series. The balloon notes at the back of Oni and Inner Oni respectively are impossible to complete since they require 999 and 765 beats respectively to complete, and are just there for points.

Oni is 9 stars with 681 beats, Inner Oni is 10 stars with 943 beats.

Note: Unless there's a timing issue, the Taiko difficulties need not be modded.

EDIT1: Fixed Inner Oni's timing.
EDIT2: Added AnGeIL's Normal, Hard and Insane difficulties, for osu! players. This song is a tad too intense for TaikOsu.
EDIT3: Offset fixed, Taiko Oni authentic fixed.
EDIT4: AnGelL's difficulties fixed.
EDIT5: Big fixes.

I'm not sure if I'm really qualified to mod this, but here goes!

Timing
The timing here seems fine. However, I have to question why the BPM halves, then doubles, and then quadruples near the end of the song on Inner Oni. More specifically, why isn't the doubling and quadrupling exact? It goes 200 -> 400.13 -> 800.27. Wouldn't the first BPM have to be around 200.065 in this case?

Other
I can see here that Taiko seems to enjoy putting a whole bunch of notes in a way that doesn't go exactly with the song's beats. Since I don't have the authentic version of this song(or any song, for that matter), I can't accurately mod on any other point. However, this is Taiko, and Taiko's pretty cool, so I'm gonna give this a star. Hopefully, that can point the local Taiko Masters in this direction

The BPM changes were so the beats could scroll slower and then faster, just like in the authentic version. There's no option in osu! for beats to scroll x times slower or faster, so the BPM changes will have to do. It isn't exact, but I'll fix it Thanks

Inner Oni's timing is actually a little more complicated because it uses a combination of 3/4 and 4/4. Open up the .osu file and change the [TimingPoints] section to this:

[TimingPoints]
1040,300,4,1,0,100,1,0
82640,600,3,1,0,100,1,1
95240,-100,4,1,0,100,0,0
96140,150,4,1,0,100,1,1
97040,150,4,1,0,100,1,1
104240,-50,4,1,0,100,0,1

Make sure you resnap properly You will probably need to double the BPM in the 100bpm section to resnap everything properly.

Also 01:21:43 (1,2,3,4) on Oni is missnapped =/

Ack. I'll do this then.

All done.

I'm giving this a star, since I haven't spotted any errors in it the last 1,000 times I played this.

...And to keep this alive. (No kudosu please~)

uh aqua, where did you get all the audio files?

ddddo do kat

ddddo do kat

ddddo do ddddo do ddddo do kat

ddddo do kat

ddddo do kat

ddddo do ddddo do ddddo do kat kat kat

ddddo do kat

ddddo do kat

ddddo do ddddo do ddddo do kat

ddddo do kat

ddddo do kat

NANJA KURYA~~~~~~~~~!!!!!!!!!!!!



Download: Zekira - Taiko no Tatsujin - Rotter Tarmination [Taiko Inner Oni] (2009-11-24) Taiko.osr

This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.

aquabluu wrote:

Lawl :3

Sorry this got graved. I'll try to ungrave it after exams.

mekadon: I have my sources

TaikOsu...???
Then... [Inner Oni] seems very HARD to mapping...
Anyway,

good luck :3
ps.no star yet :3

I am not going to TaikOsu Inner Oni. Never

Umm... perhaps you could change my name to AnGelL on my difficulties lol its a common mistake calling me AnGeIL but its okay lol
double L so basically ANGELL, sorry >.>;
But here is a star anyway I cant wait till it gets ranked XD

Oh btw >.> i was watching this vid of this song on normal oni and i saw some things that looked a tiny different from this one :"D

but you dont have to make these changes if you dont want to XD

[Taiko Oni]
#1-00:20:832 (3) - this one should be a don note
#2-00:29:832 - at this point there is usually another don note on the white snap line before the 2 big katsu.
#3-00:35:232 (3) - same as #1
#4-00:40:032 (3) - same as #1
#5-00:49:032 (1) - same as #2
#6-01:21:582 (2) - This note should be at 01:21:657 (blue snap line)
#7-01:21:807 (3) - This note should be at 01:21:882 (red snap line)
#8-01:22:032 (4) - This note should be at 01:22:107 (blue snap line)

And yeah thats all i saw. But i think the one i saw was the authentic map from the wii version >.> not sure
but yeah thats all.. the most important ones are #6, 7 and 8 cause they are kinda outta time.

Star :3

[All]
All Offsets: +8 from their current (except Inner Oni, which seems to be using the correct 1040 as the first offset already)

[osu!normal]
The slider velocity surprised me a bit.
00:08:232 (1) - maybe better if it had one more repetition, then just adjust the combo after to fit the spacing
00:17:832 (1) - I understand it's a New Combo, but really it's offshooting because it's so near...
00:34:632 (1) - note too soon after a spinner for a Normal
00:39:432 (1) - ^
00:44:532 (2,3,4,5) - stack these under the tail of 1
00:49:332 (1,2,3) - ^, but remove the new combo from 1
00:51:732 (1,2,3,1,2,1,1,2,3,1,2,1,2) - this part plays really odd... I lost synch there (maybe partially because of the hitsounds too)
00:57:432 (2) - this thing's going almost offscreen... or maybe offscreen actually
01:03:432 (4,1) - new combo on 4, remove from 1
01:33:432 (1,1,1) - tails and the note should stack together
01:39:432 (1,2,1,2) - 2 should stack with 2 (preferably at the centre)

Side-comment: I'm sorry but I feel that Normal has a lot of dull points at times. I can't exactly point out how to make it more exciting; it's just that it feels like it's only an Easy+ actually (not even a Normal). Well actually when I try to listen to the noting, it really does sound a bit dull IMO, but that's just me since I might have gotten used to this song being so noisy.

[osu!Hard]
00:00:432 (1,2,3,4) - kkkd hitsounds.
00:02:682 (1,2,3,4,5) - dkkkd hitsounds.
00:05:532 (3) - whistle(clap?) on head
00:08:682 (2,3,4) - looks neater if it was aligned to 1
00:16:032 (3,4) - part feels weird.
00:17:832 (7) - New Combo
00:22:632 (1,2,3,4,5) - part plays weird
00:25:182 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - ^
00:29:982 (1,2,3,4,5) - ^
Oh darn so many parts play too weird...
00:32:232 (1) - remove whistle from the heads
00:33:432 (1) - remove new combo
00:34:632 (2) - new combo
00:37:032 (1,1,2) - same iterations.
00:41:982 (1,1,1) - plays weird again
01:10:332 (1) - remove New Combo
01:15:132 (1,2) - swap the new combos (put on 2, remove on 1)
Also, AIMod points out a lot of spacing errors.

[osu!Insane]
00:00:432 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4,5,6) - I dunno, the lack of hitsounds kind of drew my attention; I was expecting to hear some kat's somewhere...
00:09:432 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - love this part <3
00:16:632 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - hitsounding is a bit weird... most notably the dokodon one.
00:24:582 (5) - stack under 4
00:25:182 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - plays weird
00:29:982 (1,2) - stacked?
00:34:632 (2) - new combo
00:35:232 (1) - no warning for 2x = nono
00:40:032 (1) - ^
(and the following also. If you really want the 2x, SB a warning somewhere)
01:03:132 (1,2) - swap new combos
01:04:482 (1) - remove new combo
01:05:532 (1) - no new combo, then put new combo on 3
01:12:132 (5) - looks ugly with 4; make it point away from 4
01:14:532 (5) - ^
01:19:332 (2,3) - stack
01:29:382 (1) - Uh, invisible slider? put it somewhere else
01:22:632 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,2,1) - god I really love this part <3
01:36:432 (1,2,3,4) - Do ka ka ka plz? :3
Wait, again, put a speed up warning for the last part
01:39:432 (8,9,10) - find some way to stack them
PLUS A LOT OF AIMOD SPACING ISSUES AGAIN. FIX THOSE.

Overall the osu!maps still have a lot of ways to go... can't star it just yet.

Argh. That's a lot, thanks for the mod. Now standing by for AnGelL to fix the maps (I think that's how it goes in collab maps.....right?)

AnGelL wrote:

Umm... perhaps you could change my name to AnGelL on my difficulties lol its a common mistake calling me AnGeIL but its okay lol
double L so basically ANGELL, sorry >.>;
But here is a star anyway I cant wait till it gets ranked XD

Oh btw >.> i was watching this vid of this song on normal oni and i saw some things that looked a tiny different from this one :"D

but you dont have to make these changes if you dont want to XD

[Taiko Oni]
#1-00:20:832 (3) - this one should be a don note
#2-00:29:832 - at this point there is usually another don note on the white snap line before the 2 big katsu.
#3-00:35:232 (3) - same as #1
#4-00:40:032 (3) - same as #1
#5-00:49:032 (1) - same as #2
#6-01:21:582 (2) - This note should be at 01:21:657 (blue snap line)
#7-01:21:807 (3) - This note should be at 01:21:882 (red snap line)
#8-01:22:032 (4) - This note should be at 01:22:107 (blue snap line)

And yeah thats all i saw. But i think the one i saw was the authentic map from the wii version >.> not sure
but yeah thats all.. the most important ones are #6, 7 and 8 cause they are kinda outta time.

Star :3

Oh it's a double 'L'? Didn't notice. Damn, I swore I said I'd check on the Oni diff, but keep forgetting. I know there are some parts there that need fixing. Thanks.

EDIT: The last three weren't snapped to 1/6, that's why they sounded off. Fixed.

Ill get to fixing it right away !

OSU! MAPS FIXED XD
but not sure how to give them to you so you can upload >.> or do i just upload them??
*waits for reply* :3

Put them onto sendspace or something(or attach here) and I'll update.

Here ya go <3
http://www.mediafire.com/?yocmcz1ggym

Okay I apologize but I don't know how to point out the other stuff any further. I mean, sure I can identify some parts that could be improved but right now my modding abilities are either asleep or I really can't find anything, but my senses say that the difficulties really need additional modding. Go find someone else :\

Okay.

Good Luck!!

Star for you

This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.

Will do. Thanks~

AnGelL's Insane
those sudden change of speed should have a warning.
00:35:840 (1) - there are two circle on the body of slider ( in TIMELINE) not good ><
00:40:640 (1) - omg is on purpose
00:44:390 (1,1,2) - again here, note on top of a slider end point
01:08:540 (6,7,1,2) - make this a single combo
01:22:040 (5) - end 1/4 beat earlier
01:23:240 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1...........) - im not sure abouth this pattern you use, it doesnt flow with the rhythm imo
01:40:040 (8,9,10) - stack endpoints?

i ll edit this post to mod other diff... i run out of time now...
cya^^

EDIT

Hard
00:02:840 (2) - end 1/4 later
00:07:640 (5) - same
00:10:490 (2,3) - remove
00:10:490 (2) - your r missing the rhythm here: move 1/2 earlier
00:10:940 (3) - move 1 beat earlier
00:22:940 (6) -remove this note
00:23:240 to 00:31:340 - totally out of rhythm... try this: notes in the red tick in the interval: 00:22:490 - 00:27:590 - then slider of 1 beat length at: 00:25:340 - 00:25:940 - 00:26:540 - 00:27:140 (to add this you got to remove some of the notes in red ticks) this is just a suggestion, you do whatever you want, but try to follow the rhythm.
00:44:390 (1) - end this 1/2 beat earlier
00:46:790 (1) - end 1/2 later
00:50:240 - add note
01:00:290 - dont place inherited timing section in top of the note... cuz if you hit early you wouldnt get the sound wanted
01:00:740 - same here.. you can place it 1/4 beat earlier
01:22:040 (1,1,1,1) - dont fit... remove, end the spinner at 01:22:640
01:22:940 - the next part, like I said in insane.. im not sure about it, is kinda confusing the placement of the beat, but i couldnt figure out a better way... is a very hard song to map ><

AnGelL's Normal+
decrase slider velocity, too fast for a normal diff
01:08:240 (1) - too close to prev combo
best diff imo

cya!

The red timing section that starts the Kiai Time could probably be inherited if you're not changing the BPM or resetting the metronome or changing the offset
(the red section that ends it can stay)

Wait, aqua, didn't matty say that the time signature kinda differs in that 'slow' part? Or is this something else? Because if it's a case of timing signature, then definitely it should stay red since you'll need it put to 3/4 time signature.

[Inner Oni]
Unsnapped notes? Check AIMod.

I'm assuming these are the 1/12 notes, so need not be changed, I guess.

Yeah, it should stay red.

Thanks for the mods . If AnGeiL isn't on I'll fix 'em up myself.

geez thats alot to mod D: darm if i was home i would of modded them by now but im sorta on holiday and the lap top im using doesnt support osu >.>;
sorry

Take your time then.

I suck at taiko so i will only mod the osu! maps
[Normal+]
00:40:640 (1) - This is overlapping with the HP bar
01:47:690 (1) - (Suggestion) Remove this spinner. 4 Spinners in a row is pretty stupid and i found this one the most unfitting

[Hard]
This feels like all the notes should be moved one white tick backwards on the time-line


[Insane]
This feels like it should be moved two white ticks backwards on the time-line....

*star*

This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.

I actually don't want the Taiko maps to be modded. Thanks guys

Okay what Xgor said was right, everything in Hard and Insane had to be moved back, so the times for all the notes are different.

[AnGelL's Normal+]
Add tag 'AnGelL'
00:09:44(1,1,1) - Delete 'New combo'
00:10:64(Spin) - [Suggestion] Finish Hitsound?
00:16:04(1) - [Suggestion] How about Delete 'New combo'?
00:17:54(3) - [Suggestion] How about move 1 grid down?(Grid level = 2)
00:20:84(1) - [Suggestion] How about Delete 'New combo'?
00:21:44(1) - Return and End sounds weird. Maybe you need to check this slider's length.
00:26:54(3) - [Suggestion] How about move 1 grid up?(Grid level = 2)
01:22:64(Timing) - 3/4 part...
01:35:24(Timing) - 4/4 part...

[AnGelL's Hard]
Add tag 'AnGelL'
00:21:89(4,5) - Jump notes? Maybe you should consider about these notes.
01:21:66(1) - Delete 'New combo'
01:21:89(1) - ^
01:22:11(1) - ^
01:22:64(Timing) - Any reason of NO Inherit?
01:35:24(Timing) - ^
01:38:09(2,3) - IMO, I don't know that's no-reverse or reverse.
01:43:04(5,7) - ^

[AnGelL's Insane]
Add tag 'AnGelL'
00:01:04(5) - How about move 1 grid up?
00:03:29(5) - ^
00:35:24(1) - I prefer to 'x2 warning!'
00:40:04(1) - ^
00:41:99(1,1,1) - ^
00:46:79(1,1,1) - ^
01:22:64(Timing) - Any reason of NO Inherit?
01:25:19(1) - [Suggestion] How about delete 'New combo'
01:25:64(1) - ^
01:28:34(1) - ^
01:28:79(1) - ^
01:29:24(1) - ^
01:32:39(1) - ^
01:32:84(1) - ^
01:35:24(Timing) - Any reason of NO Inherit?
01:36:44 ~ 01:44:24 - Umm... Velocity 2.80 is not good...



Good song :3
But not going to pubble yet.
As you asked for only AnGelL's diff but...

[Taiko Oni]
01:21:44(1,2,3,4) - Non-authentic. They are not 1/6 but 1/4
http://tinyurl.com/ydu5oev
68th part

Good luck XD
Here's my star :3

As requested, only AnGeIL's modes will be analyzed. So let's go!

Normal+
00:05:840 (1) - move it a square left (Grid level 3)
00:08:240 (1) - add claps on this slider's 2nd repeat and end
00:16:640 (1,2,3) - find a smarter spacing for these beats, please...
00:21:440 (1) - shrink this slider in order to make it long until 00:22:340
00:25:340 (1) - move it a square up (Grid level 2)
01:29:690 (1,2) - new combo on 2nd, remove previous new combo

Hard
00:04:490 (1) - move it 2-3 squares right and 1-2 squares down (Grid level 3)
00:31:040 (4,1) - new combo on 4th, remove the other new combo
00:33:590 (1,2) - new combo on 2nd, remove the other new combo
00:38:390 (1,2) - ^
00:41:390 (1) - no new combo
01:00:140 (1) - set a clap only on this slider's end
01:38:090 (2) - stack this slider's end exactly on the next slider's end

Insane
Except some spacing inconstances, it's ok!

A little spacing and New Combo re-check can be useful for these map's improvement!
Plus, don't forget to set on Source where the song comes from (Taiko no Tatsujiin, obviously x3)
The work was anyways good, so here's your star ;3

Lokamp wrote:

Plus, don't forget to set on Source where the song comes from (Taiko no Tatsujiin, obviously x3)

Actually, I'm aiming to find real artist :3

edit. FOUND!!! lol
It's 細江 慎治（ほそえ しんじ) [Shinji Hosoe]
http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E7%B4%B0% ... 4.E4.BA.BA
She also made 'SON OF SUN' lol

arien666 wrote:

Lokamp wrote:
Plus, don't forget to set on Source where the song comes from (Taiko no Tatsujiin, obviously x3)

Actually, I'm aiming to find real artist :3

That was collaboration.
Thanks arken ;3

Should I use Shinji Hosoe? If I do people wouldn't know right away the song is from Taiko.

aquabluu wrote:

Should I use Shinji Hosoe? If I do people wouldn't know right away the song is from Taiko.

I prefer to use that artist.
But I don't think my suggestion is important :3

Okay, keeping is good :3

Sorry, i can't mod taiko diffs =|
Here we go
Only suggestions, that can be ignired as well
AnGelL's [Normal+]
General
Try slider tick rate 2
00:14:240 (2,3) - spacing
00:17:090 (2,3) - ^
00:19:040 (2,3) - ^
00:30:740 (2,3) - move it down 1 grid tick?
00:35:825 (2) - spacing
00:40:640 (2) - ^
00:49:940 (3,4) - ^
00:52:640 (2) - ^
00:54:140 (2) - ^
00:58:940 (2) - extend 1/4?
01:07:340 (3) - spacing
01:09:740 (3) - ^
01:44:240 (5) - ^

AnGelL's [Hard]
01:38:540 (3) - i'd rather turn off distance snap and move and of this slider under an end of 2

AnGelL's [Insane]
I'd suggest to add SB warning for x2 sliders

Not bad. Star

Argh. :/

aquabluu wrote:

Argh. :/

orz...

Maybe, Yuujou Pop :3???

is a good map > < fun!!

very good beatmap, can be a ranked too.

Yo, I know it's graved and everything, but

01:21:440 (1,2,3,4) - aren't these notes supposed to be placed like this ?

Argh, I've left this alone for way too long Thanks everyone who modded in my absence.

a star for the nice map.

// = Never mind if it's graveyard =//
I like it, so I will give a star!
Is is possible to add one more Solo mode and a Taiko diff.?
I would make them. - Or maybe just a Taiko mode.
If you want I can give you some of my maps, so you know how I map.

Greetings,
おのさき人

I think I already have more than enough diffs for this set, lol ;^^

I indeed. Haha.~
Well thx for answer.

Hello~ Ramdon mod!

[general]
01:22:565 Set preview point (example of preview on the arcade)

I hope this help~

Star~