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rust45
I really suck at voting on D1, it's always hard to find someone who actually seems suspicious unless somebody does something really stupid.
Haneii
@ people voting DxS

Why? Because he isn't talking? It's day one and nearly everyone isn't/doesn't seem to be suspicious enough to be mafia. Many of you are
undecided on who could be mafia - yet some of you attack DxS for not actively voting/targeting someone and I don't get it. I feel a bit sorry for him - people voting him left and right. He probably isn't sure enough about anyone (like most of us are). What do you expect him to say/do to defend himself? Are you guys aware he isn't the only one lurking?

FoS on everyone voting or who had voted for DxS - mafia ganging up on an easy target?

If not, I wish our towns people were more productive >_<
Lilac
I only voted for DxS because I was following bmin's logic.

But DxS didn't say anything like he always does. In fact, he only replied to me which means he REALLY likes me which REALLY freaks me out.

Lurking is no good, it doesn't help town~ Come on guys, sing with me.
NoHitter
Claim: mm201
Since I'm high up in the osu! hierarchy, I can access the player database and look up the identity of a player each night.
I'll get their username and a short description.
I win when all anti-town forces are eliminated.
Chris_old
unvote

for now
Mashley
NoHItter: If you think I'm the scummiest player, why aren't you voting for me?
But as of that roleclaim unvote as I am no longer comfortable lynching NoHItter and there is more time left than I previously expected. Expect a re-vote from me closer to deadline.
adam2046
Unvote
Thoughts in a bit.
Topic Starter
0_o
I have received a PM saying that NoHItter's "anti-town forces" quote broke the game since that's the exact wording of the town PM. I forgot to mention this at the beginning however: the non-town players were given the town PM wordings at the beginning of the game, in order to avoid situations like Pasonia's "politics" game.
adam2046
Scratch that. I'm pulling up derp.
Lilac
...Did the host just say that a player was not town?

...Or did I read that wrong?
Chris_old
He didn't confirm anything* I realized after reading the post 3x.

it just meant nohitter could of been subtly trying to influence with that post
Mashley
Don't get it :<
Chris_old

Mashley wrote:

Don't get it :<
Mafia got the pms of the town? I guess, or something like that so they could play along if someone tried to play the lolrolepm game.

also vote: nohitter for being tricky
adam2046

Lilac wrote:

...Did the host just say that a player was not town?

...Or did I read that wrong?
He said everyone knows the terms included in the PMs regardless of their alignment. He has not confirmed anyone's roles.
Lilac
From what I've read, it seems like 0_o said that all non-town players were given town like PMs, hence the "winning when anti-town roles" to NoHItter...which apparently is gamebreaking...

...Yeah, I don't get it. The only way it's gamebreaking is if NoHItter is not with town.

Not to mention 0_o saying that is already gamebreaking.
Lilac
Oh okay, never mind then.
bmin11
DxS (3) - Two, Lilac, akrolsmir
*NoHItter (3) - Chris, Wojjan, Mashley
Mashley (2) - NoHItter, LunaticMara
akrolsmir (1) - pieguy1372
Wojjan (1) - foulcoon

in 7 hours, NoHItter's going to get lynched. Are we really giving up with our possible cop?
Mashley
That votecount isn't up to date.
NoHitter

Chris wrote:

Mafia got the pms of the town? I guess, or something like that so they could play along if someone tried to play the lolrolepm game.

also vote: nohitter for being tricky
Wait. How is that tricky?
I paraphrased what was written in my role PM.
My claim still stands.

@Mashley
I did vote for you. >.>
bmin11

Mashley wrote:

That votecount isn't up to date.
I updated it
Mashley

NoHItter wrote:

@Mashley
I did vote for you. >.>
This is what I get for skim-reading
bmin11
Maybe you shouldn't, since that's why NoHItter is voting for you :<
NoHitter

bmin11 wrote:

Maybe you shouldn't, since that's why NoHItter is voting for you :<
Uhh no. Don't put words in my mouth.
Lybydose
hi I'm psuedo modding this game too

Vote Count

DxS (3) - Two, Lilac, akrolsmir
NoHItter (3) - Wojjan, Haneii, Chris
Mashley (2) - NoHItter, LunaticMara
akrolsmir (1) - pieguy1372
Wojjan (1) - foulcoon

Deadline in about 5 hours
Mara
Vote: DxS

I am not going to take that risk that our cop will get lynched.
DeathxShinigami
Well...if I'm getting lynched I might as well use my power now so I can take someone down in flames with me...

Forgive me.
Sleep Powder
Oh wow, I had no idea that Day 1 would be so constructive two mafia games in a row... I'll have to read all of these new posts later.
DeathxShinigami
Too late I'm dying!

Vote: Mashley
Topic Starter
0_o
Vote Count
DxS (4) Two, Lilac, akrolsmir, LunaticMara
NoHItter (3) Wojjan, Haneii, Chris
Mashley (2) NoHItter, DxS
akrolsmir (1) pieguy1372
Wojjan (1) foulcoon

20 minutes remain
foulcoon
Wow no time left. I don't think its a good idea to let nohitter get lynched if he actually is the "cop".

Vote: DxS

Your last minute "plea" just seems desperate.

I honestly would rather one of these lurkers voted so they had a reason to talk, but its too late for now.
Topic Starter
0_o
That's it folks, writing up lynch scene now.
Topic Starter
0_o
Final Vote Count
DxS (5) Two, Lilac, akrolsmir, LunaticMara, foulcoon
NoHItter (3) Wojjan, Haneii, Chris
Mashley (2) NoHItter, DxS
akrolsmir (1) pieguy1372

(Player names are in blue, to avoid confusion with role names)

The osu! community was abuzz. "Who would want to take over the community?"; "What's their agenda?"; and most importantly, "Who are they?" Discussion flew, and it seemed like NoHItter wasn't sitting too well in the public opinion. He had no choice:
"Trust me guys, I'm mm201, your friendly neighbourhood iNiS-loving dev!"
Not willing to risk knocking off such a powerful dev, a few players backed off. It looked like DxS was the next to go. NoHItter breathed a sigh of relief while clicking View New Posts, "That was a close one, I don't know how we would have been able to find these rogue admins without my he-"
He then realized that he was logged out.
"That's weird..." he typed in his username and password.
You have specified an incorrect username.
"...what??" He tried again.
You have specified an incorrect username.
"But... but.. DxS had 5 votes! How could this happen!?" Desperate, he tried the last thing he knew:
SPOILER


...but none came.

NoHItter (mm201) - Flavour Cop - Lynched Day 1

It is now Night 1. Night will end in 48 hours, please send all night actions before then.
NoHitter
Ha! I can still go online in IRC! Now listen here.
First off all, the ritualistic "Go Town!" post.
Then I have to tell you guys something.
I know who the scum is. It is--

NoHItter (mm201) has disconnected (Banned IP Address)

Edit: This post is really a "bah go town!" post. Nothing more xD
Topic Starter
0_o
Could those with a night action who do not wish to act please send me a message saying "No action"? Just so I know it's due to that as opposed to still deciding/not knowing that it's night.
Topic Starter
0_o
3:17 AM

The alarm clock flashed the time in big red numbers, as if Echo didn't already know how late it was. Echo sat shrouded in darkness at his desk, the glaring computer monitor and the glowing clock his sole sources of light. He took the demise of his fellow dev mm201 hard - if only the community were more informed, perhaps the tragedy could have been avoided. He stared at the osu! source code for hours, scrolling through every detail hoping to find something that could shed some light on this otherwise dark situation.

Suddenly, he sat up.

"What the..." he looked at the information before him. He could barely believe his eyes. "I've gotta tell someone!" He rushed to the osu! Announcement forum to make a thread. The community must know!

I can't let you do that, Echo.

The voice came from his speakers. Suddenly, his cursor started moving on its own, as if controlled by someone else. "Who are you?? What are you doing!?" Echo yelled into his microphone. There was no reply - the cursor silently moved to the x at the top of the browser. Echo took hold of his mouse and fought for control of the cursor, while frantically typing up his message with his other hand. He almost finished the message when he heard the voice:

Time's up.

A message appeared on the screen: Hard Drive Reformat in 3...

..2..

Frantically, Echo typed the last three words and pressed Enter.

...1

...

adam2046 (Echo) - Setup Sleuth - Nightkilled Night 1

Echo's message: There is an independent killer who wins when a certain group of people are eliminated.

It is now Day 2, with 16 alive, it's 9 votes to lynch. You have exactly 5 days from this post.
Lilac
Vote: DxS

Mostly likely, you're only one shot unlynchable. If that's the case, you're either cult or a really screwed up, overpowered Mafia.
Chris_old
Roleclaim: Two

Two - The ability to send the host one statement every night, and get told if it is true or false.

My first statement was "Wojjan, LadySuburu, rust45, and Two are all pro-town".

Result: True.

Wojjan, Two, LadySuburu, and rust45 are all confirmed town.
Two_old

Lilac wrote:

Vote: DxS

Mostly likely, you're only one shot unlynchable. If that's the case, you're either cult or a really screwed up, overpowered Mafia.
it made no sense for him to kill the cop instead of die, so I'm all for lynching him too (still)
vote: DeathxShinigami
Two_old

Chris wrote:

Roleclaim: Two

Two - The ability to send the host one statement every night, and get told if it is true or false.
oh wow, that is the most appropriately broken role I've ever seen

I told you all to pick me
Lilac
It's so broken, I'm willing to wager that it's false.

I am arguing about the integrity of that statement, no host in their rightful mind should give a confirmation that big... Then again, NoHItter and adam being lynched already is pretty bad...
Two_old
chris knows I have a big ego but neither he nor anyone else in this game is smart or ballsy enough to be that elaborate

speaking of smart, I lied about that whole 3 post restriction thing in order to live to day 2, so thanks a bunch, mafia

possible mafia remaining now are:

bmin11
Rantai
LunaticMara
pieguy1372
foulcoon
DeathxShinigami
akrolsmir
Haneii
Lilac
Mashley
animask

confirmed town:

Two
Wojjan
LadySuburu
rust45
Chris

oh, I think we've won
Wojjan
Knowing Two's history of being wrong a lot, I am not going to trust Chris on his word on that statement.
Lilac, why so eager to retry if we've failed already? ouldn't it make more sense for someone to try and vigkill DxS?
Two_old

Wojjan wrote:

Knowing Two's history of being wrong a lot,
now are you talking about my 100% mafia win rate or last game where I knew you were mafia day 1?
Lilac
I'm more worried about you saying that your not town by trying to disprove Chris's statement.

I'm eager to try again because I'm going for someone who's mostly like anti-town rather than say...voting for the cop. Am I right, Wojjan?
Mara
Wait.... Two just posted 4 times already. Did he just lie about his role?
Lilac
He lied about the 3 post restriction part...

...Mara, I'm on to you.
Lilac
Oh yes, if there IS a Vig out there, please shoot DxS. However, I'm willing to wager that it might not work on a slight suspicious feeling.
foulcoon
Why wouldn't a vig be able to kill DxS? He already avoided lynch somehow, are you saying he could avoid bullets too? That would be OP :S
Lilac
I'm thinking that he might be able to block one of each kills available.

Lynch, Vig and Nightkill.

But yeah, that does seem far-fetched.
pieguyn
Well that's interesting...

I'm for lynching DxS, because I really doubt he's permanently immune to being lynched. We should make sure that the person with the second-most votes is suspicious enough to be lynched anyway, just in case. :?
LadySuburu
DxS's nonlynch was my fault. I woke up one hour to late to vote for DxS over NoHItter.

Claim: strager

Since I'm so clever, I can take someone's vote and force it onto another player without it updating the votecount. They can't change the vote from then on either.

I did that to two early on (since he said he was restricted to three posts, and at the time I prefered a NoHItter lynch.), when NoHItter and DxS were tied 3 for 3. I didn't expect people to continue voting him through a claim, and woke up too late to prevent it. When I said "I'm not voting, so..." I was subtly referencing that ability.

About Chris's claim: The strength of his role is also it's weakness. If any one of his targets had been in any way anti-town, it would've returned false. I can believe the role might exist regardless of if it's true or not.

I was laughing when you guys were talking about strager D1 :D
Lilac
Great...

...Just great. Unvote

Now we're back to square one.
Two_old
well I never thought deathxshinigami was mafia to begin with, I just wanted them to explain but I guess you all are fun killers

in fact I've been thinking you were mafia, Lilac, since you not only didn't vote day 1, but you tried right off the bat to start a lynch on an easy target,
and tried to push for a vigilante kill on them at the very beginning of a day (stifling town discussion)

from another angle, I think how deeply entrenched you are in the osu community (gameplay side) makes you more likely to have ended up with a BAT


unvote, vote Lilac
Two_old
actually scratch the whole "didn't vote day 1" thing, I just didn't read carefully enough

I still think you are mafia :(
Sleep Powder
I agree with LS's interpretation of Chris's claim. Yet, its still debatable about whether or not his statement is true.

Also, anyone want to summarize Day 1 for me? (Three people maybe?)
Just the important stuff? I don't want to over-analyze every post...
Two_old
why don't you read day 1 and tell us what you think of it
Mashley
Any explaination for why you can post more than 3 times now, Two? :<
Two_old

Mashley wrote:

Any explaination for why you can post more than 3 times now, Two? :<
I would be sad too if I was on the team you are on
akrolsmir
Even accounting for LadySuburu's ability the vote is still 4-4. Is there a hidden doublevoter or something?

Chris's ability does seem pretty overpowered, but I'm also suspicious of claiming so early. Perhaps you're not worrying about being lynched since you're actually mafia? If we go along with his statements and he's not town we're pretty much screwed, as we're lacking cops to verify those claims.

Oh, and FoS DxS, despite being about to be lynched you still didn't post anything of substance. No roleclaim, no analysis, nothing. Just because NoHitter was lynched in your place doesn't mean you're clear.
LadySuburu

akrolsmir wrote:

Even accounting for LadySuburu's ability the vote is still 4-4. Is there a hidden doublevoter or something?
In a tie, the person who had the most votes first would be lynched. (Assuming this game is using the same system as my games, which since the OP says it is, I assume it is.)
Rantai

akrolsmir wrote:

Even accounting for LadySuburu's ability the vote is still 4-4. Is there a hidden doublevoter or something?
I think it's because NoHItter was technically the first to 4 votes (3-3 = 4-2 because of LS). Then it went up to 4-4 from there.

LS makes a good point about Chris' statements. But I still question the integrity of it, it just seems way too powerful (best case scenario you can confirm most townies in 2-3 nights). Gut says there is more to it...
Rantai
LS you damn ninja :P
foulcoon
So wait... DxS didn't actually do anything then?
Rantai
Considering LS's statements I am willing to believe he didn't do anything in regards to the votes.
Two_old
DeathxShinigami is pseudo-mafia if he isn't really one. By that I mean there are always a handful of players in all of these games who actively contribute to the agenda of the mafia. See: animask, quaraezha

For example, he read all of this and chose not to post (saw him lurking). Day 1 he chose not to roleclaim even when he was going to be lynched (mafia tell). Also in day 1, he helped mafia by purposely building up suspicion on himself.

It's just frustrating to have to waste days on policy lynches, or to have players inherently immune to suspicion, when town could actually win games easily if it wasn't for gameplay like this. Newsflash: if you aren't mafia and you have a bomb ability, it helps town to share that information. Day 1, the chances of being hammered by a mafia player are nil.

I can't just keep assuming that people are bad though. I will give you the benefit of the doubt and change my mind yet again.


unvote, vote:DeathxShinigami
bmin11
I'm going to wait what DxS has to say on this. I'm willing to lynch him however.
Chris_old
What would you like me to say to the host N2?

Regardless of if you believe me or not, as it is now I appear to be Town's only option. You either take your lead or you go in blind again and possibly lynch another important player.

Chances are I'm going to be NK'd, however if I am that would confirm my list so either way it works out.
LadySuburu
Prod: DxS (and anyone else that qualifies.)
Lybydose
prodded Haneii, DxS, and rust45

also

Vote Count

DxS (1) - Two
rust45
Ugh, sorry about not posting.

Chris' roleclaim and info are interesting. But it does seem rather OP. For now, I think we should see how the mafia reacts to his claim before we try to analyze it.

And large games make it kinda hard to keep track everyone at once.
Lilac

rust45 wrote:

For now, I think we should see how the mafia reacts to his claim before we try to analyze it.
Please tell us rust, who are the Mafia? It wouldn't be just me to want to know who is and who isn't.
Mashley
Fuck, Two did explain his stuff. I really need to read more carefully. Anyway, Chris' ability seems insanely overpowered. Though, I suppose LadySuburu's justification for it sort of works... meh, idk.
bmin11
He probably means by their kills if you aren't being sarcastic.

Was thinking of asking Two, rust45, Wojjan, and LS's roles, but I'm not sure if I'm thinking things right.
Two_old
he said he can send a statement and get told if it's true or false, and 2 out of 4 of those people already told you their roles so it would be a waste even if he could actually ask
bmin11
asking by I mean, asking, not lie detecting
Mara
Two, I still want an answer for this:

LunaticMara wrote:

Wait.... Two just posted 4 times already. Did he just lie about his role?
Two_old
you're not gonna get one bud

it's your job to read the thread
Two_old
and bmin do you know something about chris' role that we don't? I don't think he ever mentioned anything about asking, cause if he could simply ask a question why did he bother with only a statement? he could have just asked "who are the mafia?"
bmin11
*facepalm* I meant by asking rust45 and Wojjan if they would want to role claim or not, not lie detecting by using Chris's ability. My bad if my posts were awfully worded.
akrolsmir
Vote: DxS

Also, I propose we lynch chris in three days if he isn't nk'd- it would be disastrous if he were mafia.

Dunno about having rust45 and wojjan roleclaim- on one hand it's good for us to know, on the other it'll let the mafia know who to nk first.
Two_old

akrolsmir wrote:

Also, I propose we lynch chris in three days if he isn't nk'd- it would be disastrous if he were mafia
I'm all for this
Wojjan

Two wrote:

akrolsmir wrote:

Also, I propose we lynch chris in three days if he isn't nk'd- it would be disastrous if he were mafia
I'm all for this
wrong shade doesn't count

Oh, if you want a roleclaim out of me by all means force it so. Right now I am actually pretty interested in hearing from DxS because he's been lurking like shit and he probably picked me as a role option. META YAY META YAY YAY

I'm still left wondering why Ls' ability would in any case be applicable to a townie, seeing as the secrecy and ocnfusion using it generates, as long as the possibilty to rerail lynches at the last second makes it more of a liability than a useful skill.
Wojjan
wow I suck at typing. as long as should be along with
LadySuburu

Wojjan wrote:

Oh, if you want a roleclaim out of me by all means force it so. Right now I am actually pretty interested in hearing from DxS because he's been lurking like shit and he probably picked me as a role option. META YAY META YAY YAY

I'm still left wondering why Ls' ability would in any case be applicable to a townie, seeing as the secrecy and ocnfusion using it generates, as long as the possibilty to rerail lynches at the last second makes it more of a liability than a useful skill.
Based on my own speculation as to why I'd be given a role like this as town (Excluding role flavor), would be that basically I'm a day vote theif whose extra vote is used in secret as opposed to publicly in thread. This does give me the ability to prevent early hammers from others, as well as move away votes that someone I consider mafia has onto another target. However, as you've mentioned it is a role of limited use which is why I claimed once people were getting confused over what happened. The confusion it can create would rarely be helpful (only if I manage to pull off an unlikely gambit early), whereas the extra vote is helpful.

That being said, having already claimed if I plan to use my role I'll be stating my intentions in the thread.
Two_old
I think it's detrimental to be at all focused on me, wojjan, ladysuburu, chris, or rust at this point. We need more material from the rest of the players.

so lets start with... Users browsing this forum: bmin11, Mashley, pieguy1372 and 1 guest

all of you post pls
Two_old
animask you too pls thx
pieguyn
I've been following the thread and don't really have anything to say about anything. With large games like this, I find it harder to pick up any leads on anyone.

I'll probably come up with something later on :?
Wojjan

pieguy1372 wrote:

I've been following the thread and don't really have anything to say about anything. With large games like this, I find it harder to pick up any leads on anyone.

I'll probably come up with something later on :?
am I gonna have to vote you?
pieguyn
Yes I certainly hope not...

*rereads thread again*
LadySuburu
If we decide to lynch DxS at any point in the future, nobody hammer him. I have my reasonings and will explain at the time if/when it comes up.
LadySuburu

LadySuburu wrote:

If we decide to lynch DxS at any point in the future, nobody hammer him. I have my reasonings and will explain at the time if/when it comes up.
Or if you guys are really curious and want to know. I'd prefer to not have to explain until it comes up though.
bmin11
a certain group of people are eliminated
This is from Echo's last message. Any idea on what the group may be?

And because we only had a single NK, we may have a doctor. It would be reasonable to assume Mafia Roleblocker would also be present in that case. That said, Chris may not be NK'd, but just being roleblocked the entire way.

Currently, I have no idea what to do today. The lynch on DxS seems like the public view, but this feels like a waste when we could pretty much assume he would be some kind of a role with bomb ability.

We might as well start deciding Chris's target for N2. I have no plans at the moment. I will when I come up with something.

Bah, I don't even know if this post is going to be helpful at all. Just got ordered to post and here I am.
pieguyn
Okay, I reread the thread and you know what I noticed? Lilac hardly said anything day 1 and now is a lot more active day 2. Conversely, Mashley was really active day 1 and has hardly said anything today. Also, Mashley generally attacked pretty easy targets on day 1 and has bandwagoned at least once (NoHItter, too lazy to look for others >_<). foulcoon has hardly posted anything at all all game.

That said, I'm also somewhat suspicious of Haneii. He's taken a neutral stance on pretty much everything. If we don't take a proper stance, we'll never find out who's mafia. I can say the same thing for LunaticMara. akrolsmir is somewhat suspicious to me, but that's only a gut feeling. I haven't picked up any other leads so far. :cry:

Mashley seems the most suspicious to me currently... So I'm going to vote Mashley.
Chris_old
What would you like me to say to the host N2?

Regardless of if you believe me or not, as it is now I appear to be Town's only option. You either take your lead or you go in blind again and possibly lynch another important player.

Chances are I'm going to be NK'd, however if I am that would confirm my list so either way it works out.
Mashley

pieguy1372 wrote:

Conversely, Mashley was really active day 1 and has hardly said anything today
I got a couple new games the other day, screw posting. :P
Mara

Two wrote:

you're not gonna get one bud

it's your job to read the thread

Two wrote:

Mashley wrote:

Any explaination for why you can post more than 3 times now, Two? :<
I would be sad too if I was on the team you are on
Explain. Pointing others isn't a good reason.

Also, where's Haneii?
Two_old
this is the last time I'm going to respond to you asking this question, LunaticMara

If you read the thread entirely, you would know why I am posting more than 3 times. The fact that you haven't makes me think that you aren't trying to identify who is mafia, and the reason why you wouldn't be trying to do that is because you know who the mafia are.
Lilac
Or that he's bad with English...

...But I think Two might have a point.
Mashley

Two wrote:


speaking of smart, I lied about that whole 3 post restriction thing in order to live to day 2, so thanks a bunch, mafia
Let me get that for you.
lol2yusosmart
pieguyn
So I'm not the only one who felt that way about LunaticMara...though in this case he might have just been lazy.

Mashley, what about my other points? :?
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