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Werewolf Game 2 [Concluded; Human Victory]

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Larto
I can prove that he said it. I think I have the log saved somewhere on my Laptop.
YoshiKart
Vote BagelBob
Jinxy
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Larto
Do you have any proof or just any guess why Suburu must be an assassin?
Because I have lots of proof/guesses that show that he isn't.
- Suburu died at night. By being killed by an assassin. Now, killing an assassin at night might be a.. clever strategy sometimes, but I don't see it as clever at the moment.
- If Suburu would have been an assassin, kuwarudo would have died at night 1. That would have made the civillians believe everything Suburu said, since kuwarudo dying at night 1 would have made LOTS OF people think that Suburu was a civillian.
Of course, THIS proof isn't perfect, since, if kuwarudo was an assassin too, he couldn't have died no matter what.
- Suburu gave us the name "neo@lex" as the wolf. neo@lex claimed to be the ninja, but THEN he admitted that he wasn't. This makes him SUPER SUPER SUSPICIOUS and very likely to be an assassin.

Enough?

EDIT: Oh, but there is a possibilty that SFG is a werewolf and faked the whole post. But I don't think that she is.
BagelBob_old
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Larto
My feeling about BagelBob's post:


If everything BagelBob says is true, I am a complete idiot and...


orz. I am probably a complete idiot. This just makes too much sense.
adam2046
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kuwarudo
Ahahahaha...

This just enforces my vote in Bagelbob

I am no longer riding the vote wagon on Bagelbob

This is my own reason. :)


Oh, man, oh man, this game is so good! This is why I'm always at this forums! Haha...this is great...
YellowerYoshi
I'm much more inclined to believe LadySuburu over you BagelBob, she's been a valuable asset throughout the game unlike you. You've just been pointing fingers and opposing everyone's ideas and deductions on possible assassins, which leads me to believe that you are one and are just trying to lead us to lynching a vanilla.

My vote stands.
Jinxy
Alrite, heres the list of sins Bob claims.

LadySuburu
SFG
adam2046
+kuwarudo

Now, we have either 7 or 8 wolves.
I will add on my suspicions.

neo@lex
YellowYoshi1
Pasonia


Reasons for YY and Pas will be revealed once... you get the drill.


EDIT: Looks like Kuu and Bob are playing mind games.

EDIT 2: V done, adam.
adam2046
JI, you missed his claim that kuu is an assassin.
kuwarudo
What mind games??

I don't even have the game board. Or any game board for that matter.

(lol)

Anyway, I'll leave it up to you guys on who to believe. I'm not good at swaying people on decisions, unless they're right in front of me.
BagelBob_old
Adam, as I recall, you were jumping back and forth between ninja and assassin. That, or you can't get the role name right. Kudos to Ace for making the role names so similar.

I'd like to point it out, in case you don't understand "kuu"'s post.

He lied about being the Guardian Angel. Now that I've come out with the truth, he has no choice but to vote on me.


YellowYoshi, what you call a "valuable asset" is nothing of the kind. Suburu has not done a good job at all. On day 1, Suburu was quick to move Suburu's vote off of nardi, who turned out to not be the priest onto Animask, who at this point looks a whole lot like the priest. And on day 2, all Suburu did was vote for neo. First post, and that's all we get. And this was only because Suburu had selected neo as the game's first "Assassin".

I, on the other hand, have been making valid CASES on people who acted suspicious, and as for opposing "everyone's" ideas. I fully believe Suburu to be an assassin and Pasonia's plan, which created CHAOS, was horrible. I've already outlined a better one.

ALSO kuu claimed to be the Guardian Angel, not a vanilla. Could it be that it slipped your mind because you know kuu is NEITHER?

Also jinxy, neo and Suburu are mutually exclusive assassins, or really really dumb.
Jinxy
Gah, Fuck Spin's timing.

If this turns out into a text wall, dont skip it.

Pasonia wrote:

How can we be so sure he's not an Assassin, either? We have a 33% chance.
Although Pas changed it into 27% later, 33% means there are 8 wolves.


And lets go back to yesterday.

YellowYoshi1 wrote:

We have 8 wolves to deal with.
YY also claims 8, although he isint a seer.


Echo's turn
Echo said 27%, which is, of course, 7.

Now, here are the possible routes of this.

Pas and YY are wolves, and are saying the truth. There are 8.
Pas and YY are wolves, and lied to make the wolf force look bigger. There are 7.


And dont say "They lied to confuzzle the wolves." because, HECK. The wolves know how many of them are there.

EDIT: I removed the impossiblities after reading Bob's post.
adam2046
I was saying that a ninja's occupation is usually an assassin, as a joke, you know humour right?
You're seriously not a very fun guy :?
kuwarudo
Hmm, I can't seem to make a post without landing suspicion...but who cares anyway?

I'm just going to go blunt and stuff.

BagelBob is lying.

There we go.

Ok, I'm going to play WoW now, kthxbai.

I can't post reasons, because I'm dumb at those kinds of stuff. Hahaha...maybe I will post but later.

EDIT I JUST BOLDED THE MOST IMPORTANT PART
BagelBob_old
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BagelBob_old
JInxy, before you go any farther with that logic, look at this:

viewtopic.php?p=133873#p133873

I'm not sure if they're "Impossibles". Just that Echo isn't the one who said those things, it was Adam trying to say Echo was talking through him.
Jinxy
One more thing,
Ace said around 7 wolves. So...
7 = 50%
8 = 35%
6 = 10%
9 = 5% (Worst case senario[?])

And...
Vote YellowYoshi1

I could be wrong about Pasonia, and I dont wanna get tangled up in the Bob/Kuu guardian crap.
commandhat
Only posting here to yell at BagelBob and wonder what the hell he's doing.

Don't ignore this, if it's a text wall.

First off, if I was an assassin, why would I want out? Killing things in the night is too much fun to leave D: (I know this from lots of previous games, on different sites etc.

Second off, I -was- a civilan. Now I'm a ghost lurking about teh thread. Anyways. If I'm a not normal civilian, why would I on-the-spot abandon an important role in the game?

Thirdly, pie. Seriously, wtf? For all I know they really could be metting each other and shit like that, but Suburu leaving her computer open to another player? For that matter, Suburu not noticing the 'clicks' and 'I'll be right there' noises coming from her room?

U has lots to explain. I go now.

Edit: fucking typos lakwegrfolasb,fhjerggv
Edit2: Unbolded one sentence so Ace dosen't blow up on me for trying to point fingers or anything.
Final edit: Regarding that post down thar: No, not just the post on the role ID and stuff, anywhere. The inbox can be accessed from anywhere. Just change the osu tab to a different site and *boom* logged out. Also wtf with the color stuff with Edit2? :/
adam2046
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BagelBob_old
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adam2046
He's implying SFG is a super spy, who invades Subi's comp to find out his role in RP games...I think?
Jinxy
There is one thing I dont understand.

If SFG saw Suburu as a wolf, then what does commandhat's role have to do with all this? If SFG becomes a wolf, no big deal. If SFG becomes a civil, then... well your claim still doesnt make sense, bob.

And Kuu, DID YOU PROTECT NEO@LEX?

EDIT: Okay, Bob, SFG was accusing as this thread is PUBLIC. She just saw it, followed on from page 1, and made her own list to who is a wolf.
As a webcomic character says:

Triangle wrote:

You have said nothing.
kuwarudo
NO I DID NOT PROTECT NEO@LEX

I DO NOT PROTECT PEOPLE IF THEY DO NOT ENGAGE CONTACT WITH ME.

ONLY A FEW PEOPLE HAVE CONTACTED ME. NEO@LEX DID NOT CONTACT ME.
commandhat

BagelBob wrote:

I don't know why you wanted out. What I do know is that you tried to leave and now that I'm calling your replacement a wolf, you're back in here trying to defend yourself (her).

I recognize your questions as WIFOM trying to distract me and other players from the truth by making US come up with reasons for YOUR actions.

And I don't understand what you mean about 'clicks' and 'I'll be right there' noises. I don't see how those would even matter.
[removed my quote to keep from stretching post longer]

I'm yelling at your post flying in the face of common sense. Would you willingly let a friend at your computer with you still logged in as everything? Better yet, would you not be suspicious of your friend responding "I'll be right there" several times to your calls, especially when you've like made lunch or something?

Edit: That and Ace gave SFG my role. =/
adam2046
I don't think either BagelBob or Commandhat live in the reality we live in...
:?
BagelBob_old
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Jinxy
Commandhat, just shut the fuck up.
Bob, You are being more and more unreasonable.

Look guys, this is forum werewolf. I DONT SHITTING CARE WHAT HAPPENS IN RL.

Bob, seriously, you have no proof what happened in rl. So just shut up.
adam2046
You're stating everything you're saying as a fact Bob, this is getting quite silly.
kuwarudo
WTF IS HAPPENING HERE WHY IS COMMANDHAT HERE AGAIN?

oh sorry for caps...wait i was shouting.
commandhat
Good points there, very logical. I see no problem with those, but what lab? If you mean at school, then that makes even more sense because people tend to watch their friends at school.

EDIT: and yes JInxy and Kuu I'm shutting the fuck up now. I just wanted to point out the logic errors I saw in Bagel's text wall post earlier.
BagelBob_old
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Jinxy
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commandhat
Ace already put his foot down, we gotta keep the posts no matter how dumb they are. Sorry. :o
kuwarudo
NO MATTER HOW DUMB THE POST IS. Ace already said it. :/

Also: Pie.

And Bagelbob is now high in suspicion.
Echo
Can I lock commandhat out of this thread? He's COMPLETELY TOTALLY FRICKING RUINING THE GAME. IF YOU WANT OUT, STAY OUT.

IF YOU'RE DEAD, DON'T POST IN THE THREAD. IF YOU'VE QUIT, GO AWAY.

yOU SAID YOU DIDN'T HAVE TIME TO CHECK ON THE THREAD, SO DON'T CHECK ON THE DAMN THREAD

</RAGE>

edit2: i didn't read every single post, sorry if this came a bit late.

edit:
dead/quit people are still allowed to talk to people in irc (as Ace has said), but i believe this should be strictly in private conversations with individual people only, and not with a group. Only people who are still alive should be allowed to contribute to *proper* discussion, ie. the use of persuasion through the use of skillful talk or evidence or logic or whatever. This INCLUDES defending your own role.

edit3:
Now, posting THROUGH someone who's in the game is fine in my books - you need to privately convince that person to do so, which is the object of the game. And, because someone else is QUOTING what you say, there's no guarantee that it came from your mouth, whereas making a post confirms that you really did say it.
YellowerYoshi
BagelBob, the only thing you are doing with your wild accusations and crackpot real life theories is digging your already deep pit even deeper.

I'm sticking to my belief that Suburu was a human, because killing one of your own pack is just a fucking stupid move. It may buy you a day by throwing people's sights off of you but one of you still died.

Either Suburu wasn't a wolf and they wolves saw her as a threat or Suburu was a wolf and the wolf team is just fucking idiotic.
adam2046
Echo was in IRC and asked me to post this:

16:18 <Echo> : and tell bagelbob i've talked to over half the people who're still in the game

in response to

Echo, who hadn't been talking to anyone about the werewolf game, came to me and asked me if I was a wolf. A real vanilla townie would go to someone they thought was innocent to tell them their suspicions, while Echo came to me.

16:19 <Echo> : i talk to people
16:19 <Echo> : and if i think that person is a wolf, i tell them that
16:19 <Echo> : if i think that person is human, i tell them that
Loginer
Ugh, forgot to vote yesterday.
Anyway, I'll place my vote on BagelBob for now. Suburu was simply too useful to be an assassin.
kuwarudo
What happened Loginer? And I see you've ridden the Vote Wagon.
Jinxy
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kuwarudo

JInxyjem wrote:

Bagel claimed he protected neo@lex from the ninja, while Kuu said he did nothing at all.
Who you gonna believe? Ghost Buste---*shot*

Well, who will you guys believe?
YellowerYoshi
I don't particularly trust either choice, but I definitely would believe kuwarudo before I would believe BagelBob.
kuwarudo

YellowYoshi1 wrote:

I don't particularly trust either choice, but I definitely would believe kuwarudo before I would believe BagelBob.
Really?? :)


ACE WHERE ARE THE STANDINGS
Loginer
Wait, what if Suburu was the ninja? That'd explain why neo is still alive. *dodges heavy objects*
Jinxy
Possible...

But Echo protected Suburu and Kuu, why would Suburu backstab him?
adam2046
Or maybe the ninja just didn't use his/her ability.
kuwarudo

adam2046 wrote:

Or maybe the ninja just didn't use his/her ability.

wat


Explain pl0x.

EDIT SO I DONT HAVE TO MAKE ANOTHER POST

THANKS
adam2046
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nardii
What if I was the Ninja? I wouldn't have been able to kill anyone obviously! Too bad you guys killed me, right?

(Please do not try to argue with this MESSAGE OF TRUTH, as all your 'facts' are just lies fabricated by others unlike the above MESSAGE OF TRUTH.)

Talking? I don't see any text...
Jinxy
^ Possible.... But you shouldnt be talking...
Loginer

nardi11011 wrote:

What if I was the Ninja? I wouldn't have been able to kill anyone obviously! Too bad you guys killed me, right?
Not really, the ninja is retarded.
Jarby
Lynch vote for Larto.

You know far too much now.
Cuddlebun
wow

well, BagelBob's spouting a whole bunch of crazy shit (which made sense until he got to superspysfg) and you guys are pretty much acting like headless chickens. I suspected Suburu of being an assassin, and I still think he was, but I doubt the assassins would be that fucking stupid and kill one of their own so I'm gonna hold off on that judgment.

So right now I'm not sure who to vote for.
Jinxy

Todesengal wrote:

wow

well, BagelBob's spouting a whole bunch of crazy shit (which made sense until he got to superspysfg) and you guys are pretty much acting like headless chickens. I suspected Suburu of being an assassin, and I still think he was, but I doubt the assassins would be that fucking stupid and kill one of their own so I'm gonna hold off on that judgment.

So right now I'm not sure who to vote for.
I feel like an idiot. Rage is a sad, sad thing.

Unvote
Vote YellowYoshi1


Reasons on page 45.
Neo@lex
...Why the fuck am I still here?
Also, I'm probably missing something HUGE, but can someone explain why BagelBob is the main suspect?

Also, I didn't receive any PMs or anything, so I'm gonna assume either Ladysuburu or Nardi was the Ninja. I'm not 100% sure here, but I don't think the guardian angel can protect from Ninja kills, only Werewolf kills...

BRB two days with no internets.
commandhat
Ace, I sent you a PM with the current standings.
Topic Starter
AceOfArrows
Okay guise, stats are update.

Also:

1) commandhat I am confus. You want out and then you start posting in the thread more often than you did when you were actually part of this game. You're not dead, so I suppose I don't technically have an issue with you posting your opinions; I'm just saying I'm confus. Edit-in: And you apparently even have enough time to track the tally?!

2) Correct. The Ninja, if still alive, does have the option to choose not to kill someone if they don't want to.

3) I hadn't thought about it before, but actually, I'm thinking yeah, in my games, the Guardian Angel can protect against Ninja kills.
commandhat
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Topic Starter
AceOfArrows
I actually did my tally before I ever opened up your PM, commandhat.

Also, the first post now mentions, at the bottom, #forumshit as a place to discuss the Werewolf Game. I also briefly mention Osu's Ventrilo channel and cite the location of the info regarding how to get on it.
commandhat
I guess it's just as well lol, my PM is moderately inaccurate. :oops:
Mashley
Current dead people and their roles:

animask - Priest
Rolled - Vigilante
nardi - Assassin
Echo - Vanilla
LadySuburu - Insomniac

EDIT: Also I vote BagelBob
Topic Starter
AceOfArrows
Okies then. I'll count you in on that.
Cuddlebun
commandhat shut the fuck up. You left this game for a reason.

I'm just gonna go ahead and cast my vote again for foulcoon.
foulcoon
Well I actually believe ASH, so I have no choice but to vote for BagelBob.

Guy is back and forth fabricating roles and shit... it's just ridiculous.
Topic Starter
AceOfArrows
Alright. Status is updated again.
BagelBob_old
I'd like to point out that everyone who is voting for me right now (except kuu) is doing so for one and exactly one reason:

Suburu said I was an assassin.

I'm going to edit this post and fill it up with the people I think are assassins right now and I'm going to provide REASONS for this based on the way they have acted.

Suburu:
Before Day 2 even started, Suburu posted in Loginer's thread that neo@lex had killed Rolled. However, this was 7 hours before Ace posted the morning and well after the deadline had passed. If Ace had indeed sent Suburu the
message earlier, why did Ace not start the new day? It doesn't make any sense.

What does make sense is that Suburu sent in a Night Kill, and 7 hours later, Ace logged on and got it.

There has been a distinct style to Suburu's posts. On Day 1 Suburu claimed insomniac, and when it looked like "kuu" would be lynched, Suburu claimed FOR "kuu" switching everyone to nardi. Then, after nardi fake-claimed priest, Suburu quickly changed people to animask, who, by the way, is probably the REAL priest.

On Day 2, we saw one thing from Suburu. A vote for neo. There was nothing at all about nardi. There was no looking for assassins.

On Night 2, the first person who Suburu told I was an assassin to was me. SFG and adam were there too. I got a strong feeling based on the way that they acted that they had planned that. In addition, it wouldn't make sense to tell the assassin that you thought they were an assassin. If anything, you'd want to hide that from the assassin in order that the assassin does not know you're on to them.

An SFG:
Ann SFG knew her role before she replaced in. She could only know this if she knew commandhat and Suburu are assassins.
She also attempted to get people to stop looking for assassins on Day 2.

Adam:
Adam has been supporting the "kuu" and Suburu plan from the beginning. He was strongly buddying with Echo on Day 1, even defending her when I was pointing out contradictions in her logic. In addition, he was always there whenever I talked with Suburu and SFG, supporting Suburu despite having no proof for doing so.

"kuu":
Fake-claimed Guardian Angel on Day 1. Other than that, "kuu" hasn't really done anything other than act crazy. Definitely does not help the town.

Agent Spin:
Fake-claimed Coroner as fitting with Suburu's plan.

I figure that Suburu's plan is to get assassins into aux roles. Once the town accepts them into aux roles, there will be no stopping them. Suburu killed Suburu at night for this purpose. It makes "kuu" and ASH seem like the real aux roles, thus giving the assassins a major voice in the town. In addition, it solidifies Suburu's claims as the insomniac and makes it look like the people Suburu outed are really assassins.

In addition, Suburu claimed insomniac on Day 1, which, with a real insomniac, would give the town 2 assassins with the help of the guardian angel. It would make MUCH more sense if the insomniac got a wolf on Night 1, then claimed on Day 2. Since the assassins wouldn't get the insomniac's name until after they had sent in their kill, this, along with being protected on Night 2, gives the insomniac 3 names instead of 2. Suburu instead chose to claim on Day 1 in order to get established as the insomniac and make a counter-claim worthless.

If the insomniac had counter claimed on Day 1, Suburu would have had the support of "kuu" and the rest of the assassins, making it close, but still ending up ahead, with the real insomniac lynched. This is much better for the assassins than losing 3, as demonstrated above.

If anyone is counting, that's 5 assassins so far.

In addition, there are 3 people who I think might be assassins, but I still have doubt with.

The first of these is Echo.
On Day 1, Echo was supporting Suburu and "kuu", and pushing for the town to believe them.
On Night 2, Echo PMed me and told me that Suburu was dead and that I am an assassin. Again, it doesn't make sense to tell an assassin that you think he or she is an assassin. It makes more sense to hide it from them so as catch them off guard when you tell everyone.
However, I have doubts about this for the following reasons:
On Day 1, I really wanted to believe Suburu was telling the truth. If Suburu really had been the insomniac, it would have been great for the town, but not as great as if Suburu had waited until Day 2, as described above.

The second of these is Pasonia.
Pasonia came up with a wild and crazy plan that would have spread chaos through the town. It would have done much more harm than good.
However, I suppose it's possible that Pasonia truly thought this was a good plan.

The third is YellowYoshi.
He fake-claimed Seer. This could have been another of Suburu's attempts to put an assassin into an aux roll and go farther to lead the town down the road of death.
I have doubts, because he could have read Pasonia's plan and thought it was a good idea (why, I'll never know)
In addition, it was Adam who argued against his claim to be the seer.
Pasonia
I don't claim to know exactly what elicited the anti-BagelBob wave, but unless he has an even more compelling case as another aux role, I can't see any reason for me (or any one who has already voted) to not suspect him. He was quick to jump on me on Day 2 for a suggestion I made, so I have ample reason to suspect that he's an assassin.

Vote: BagelBob

As with my other votes, I don't change 'em.
BagelBob_old
Gee, Pasonia, don't bother reading through the logic of the thread, you should just vote based on the fact that I thought you had a bad idea and called you out on it. [/sarcasm]
YellowerYoshi
Could we not have personal attacks in this thread BagelBob. There's no reason to make it personal when it's just a forum game, you could do without the insults.
BagelBob_old
I believe that you're misrepresenting me, YellowYoshi. I bear no ill will against anyone over the internet, and I certainly wasn't the one using profanity earlier in the thread.
Larto


Your explaination is pretty well made, BagelBob. But there is one most important person that you are forgetting now.
Sir Minelli.

BagelBob wrote:

Agent Spin:
Fake-claimed Coroner as fitting with Suburu's plan.
Under one condition this CANNOT apply, meaning your whole explaination is worthless, meaning that you indeed are an assassin... if I'm correct.
Agent Spin Here said that Rolled was the vigilante. This means that someone ELSE has the gun now, since Rolled died before using it. This someone seems to be Sir Minelli.
Now, if Agent Spin is NOT the coroner, Rolled was probably NOT the vigilante, meaning Minelli is definitely NOT the new vigilante.
But if Minelli is the vigilante, Agent Spin definitely is the coroner.
Now, how can Minelli prove that he is the vigilante?
Obviously, there is only one possibilty. Shooting someone.

Now, Sir Minelli, I ask you to shoot neo@lex, who is most likely an assassin if my whole theory works.
BagelBob_old
Double Objection!!

Why do you think Rolled was killed on Night 1?

The answer is simple. The assassin leader used his or her detection ability on Rolled. This let all the assassins (including ASH) know that Rolled was the vig, and made him a good choice for a night kill.
YellowerYoshi
Are you confused BagelBob? The assassin leader has no such detection ability. That would be the Psychic.
BagelBob_old
(Were)Wolf
You kill humans; it's in your nature. At night, you gather with the other wolves and kill one person each night. (In some larger games, the Pack Leader role may be used; the Pack Leader can choose to "sniff" a Human each night to see if that Human holds an Auxiliary Role. In really big games, he might even be told what it is.)
Page 1, Post 2.

Kthx.
Cuddlebun
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YellowerYoshi
My apologies for apparently not having the ability to read BagelBob, you're absolutely right.
Jinxy

BagelBob wrote:

(Were)Wolf
You kill humans; it's in your nature. At night, you gather with the other wolves and kill one person each night. (In some larger games, the Pack Leader role may be used; the Pack Leader can choose to "sniff" a Human each night to see if that Human holds an Auxiliary Role. In really big games, he might even be told what it is.)
Page 1, Post 2.

Kthx.

Ace, clarify?

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To whom it may concern: I cant break your code, so you can keep whatever my reward is.
adam2046
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BagelBob_old
Guess I'm not right enough to get an unvote.

And don't listen to adam, he's just trying to kill us all off so he and his band of assassins can win!
kuwarudo
Oh, my god BagelBob, you're the worst wolf/assassin player I have ever seen. I know that I was bad in the last game, but not this bad.
YellowerYoshi
Yes, because blatant, obnoxious finger-pointing is the best thing you could do right now.
adam2046

BagelBob wrote:

his band of assassins
We don't have an official name yet but I like to call us "The Blades" I play drums while SFG plays bass and sings back up, Subi plays guitar, Echoplays keyboard and ASH sings.

...Kuwarudo is a groupie.
kuwarudo
LOL LOL LOL

God, can everyone call me Kuu instead?? I mean it's 3 letters and K is close to U.
Mashley
I read BagelBob's posts and it only made me more sure of his assassin-ness. I lold a few times at his reasoning.

adam2046 wrote:

and ASH sings.
Cool I sing.
BagelBob_old
Oh my gosh, it's so obvious, I don't know why I didn't see it before.

Insomniac
You have trouble sleeping at night (who wouldn't with all this killing going on?). Each night, you must PM the Host and tell them whether you were able to sleep. If not, you will be informed of the NAME of one of the wolves!! The problem is, that very Wolf will also be told who YOU are, so be careful!! Depending on the size of the game, the Insomniac may also be given information on other Aux Role Humans who happen to also be up and about any Night they can't sleep. (In my games, it tends to be progressive in nature, starting at first with a vague sighting, increasing eventually to a full discovery.)
The Insomniac gets the name of one of the wolves.

Why am I posting this, you wonder?

Well, nowhere in that description does it say that the Insomniac gets the NAME OF THE PERSON WHO WAS KILLED. Suburu said that "neo@lex killed Rolled" in Loginer's thread. However, the REAL insomniac only gets the name of the assassin. This proves, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that Suburu must be an assassin, as only an assassin could know who was being killed.
Larto

BagelBob wrote:

Oh my gosh, it's so obvious, I don't know why I didn't see it before.

Insomniac
You have trouble sleeping at night (who wouldn't with all this killing going on?). Each night, you must PM the Host and tell them whether you were able to sleep. If not, you will be informed of the NAME of one of the wolves!! The problem is, that very Wolf will also be told who YOU are, so be careful!! Depending on the size of the game, the Insomniac may also be given information on other Aux Role Humans who happen to also be up and about any Night they can't sleep. (In my games, it tends to be progressive in nature, starting at first with a vague sighting, increasing eventually to a full discovery.)
The Insomniac gets the name of one of the wolves.

Why am I posting this, you wonder?

Well, nowhere in that description does it say that the Insomniac gets the NAME OF THE PERSON WHO WAS KILLED. Suburu said that "neo@lex killed Rolled" in Loginer's thread. However, the REAL insomniac only gets the name of the assassin. This proves, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that Suburu must be an assassin, as only an assassin could know who was being killed.
When I was the Insomniac in the last game, Ace sent me little stories, involving both the killer and the killed person.
So no.
BagelBob_old
Well, in that case, the description should really be updated...
BagelBob_old
But still, can anyone else come up with a reason for why Rolled was killed on Night 1?
How about why SFG already knew her role before receiving a PM?
Why Ace would send Suburu the name of an assassin and then wait 8 hours to start the day?
How Echo knew that Suburu was killed Night 2, before Suburu logged on and had a chance to tell anyone?

Doesn't the fact that neo is still alive count for anything?
Cuddlebun
Guys I think I figured out what caused 9/11

it was SFG and Suburu all along
BagelBob_old
So, here's something interesting.

I just got done talking to Echo who claims that we went through the whole "Insomniac doesn't get the name of who was killed" thing on Day 2. The thing is, I've searched all the way through Day 2, and I haven't found a single thing about it. When I asked Echo to link me, she changed the subject to foul, Tode and Rolled. (She says that Rolled was NKed because either Tode or Foul is a wolf, and she thinks that it's foul, but she won't tell me why) When I asked again, she left.

I think that what Echo was remembering was a private conversation the assassins had. She accidentally slipped up and mentioned it to me. Then she couldn't possibly link me to it, because it was done via PM.
YellowerYoshi

Todesengal wrote:

Guys I think I figured out what caused 9/11

it was SFG and Suburu all along
Forget this crazy game, we must KILL THE TERRORISTS!
Cuddlebun
1) Echo is a dude
2) The Echo-Rolled-foul-me thing has been talked about to death
BagelBob_old
1)I just naturally call everyone she
2)I don't know how much you and foul have discussed in private, but I see a grand two posts about it
3)I still don't see where on day 2 we talked about Suburu seeing the victim
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AceOfArrows
Wow...nothing to update since I added Pasonia's vote. I see that all these posts are simply those who have already voted voicing more specific reasons why. (Which is good.)

I'll check again later then.
adam2046
I'm not sure if I posted in the thread about Suburu seeing the victim but after Suburu told us that Rolled was killed I checked with Ace about and he told me that the insomniac does gettold the victim.

...You know what, I'm pretty sure I did post in the thread about it.
BagelBob_old

Ace Of Hearts wrote:

Wow...nothing to update since I added Pasonia's vote. I see that all these posts are simply those who have already voted voicing more specific reasons why. (Which is good.)

I'll check again later then.
Really?

All I've seen so far is that Suburu said so.

...You know what, I'm pretty sure I did post in the thread about it.
Links are my best friend.
adam2046
Find it yourself.
BagelBob_old
I've read through Day 2 twice. It isn't there. You only remember it because you did it via PM.
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