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Kagamine Len - SPICE!!

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Ozitiho
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Friday, October 23, 2009 at 6:31:37 PM

Artist: Kagamine Len
Title: SPICE!!
BPM: 115
Filesize: 5574kb
Play Time: 03:17
Difficulties Available:
  1. Always in Love (2.46 stars, 173 notes)
  2. Polygamist (4.47 stars, 320 notes)
  3. Professional Heartbreaker (4.86 stars, 411 notes)
Download: Kagamine Len - SPICE!!
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Accidentilly, i posted this as 'pending'. When it should have been WiP. But just AFTER i posted, Derukku-chan went ahead and mod it for me. How awsome is she he? : D
But yeah, as i had expected, it wasn't good enough. Nowhere near as good as i wanted it to be. I took a while that whole freaking list she made... And i still didn't really finish... But even though it really meant my map sucks, it just made me want to improve it more! But i aint got that much time... School is a beach.

I updated normal and hard so far. (Hopeless Romance - Heartbreaker) But, maybe because i played them so often. But somewhy i'm not that happy with them anymore. We'll see, that's what i post it WiP for!
Insane (Game of Love) is still to be really fixed. To much streams. I'm above that! Feel free to judge anyway, surely you can think of something good to say. I can't handle insane anyway, so it's gonna need lotsa fixing...

It's vocaloid, coz vocaloid is awsome. But i'm really done with this song now... I heard it so many times... But first, i gotta finish!

EDIT: Finished Game of Love to. But ii'll think of a new name later. Surely... Tommorow... Yes.

EDIT2 : Editted most of the things Yes noted. I claim to remember there was something i didn't agree on... But i forget...
MAN i never knew these things take so long to make! I just planned to work on it for a week or so... Not... What's it been? A month? Two?

I'm quite satisfied with Hard and Insane. But i really don't like Easy... It just feels... Incomplete... In to many ways... I need someone to mod it for me. Earlier i got a friend of mine to mod it, but he isn't very... Skillful... HAH!

Also, i changed the names. Because in the song, Len is a player, i based the difficulty names on that. It was like that to at first, but it was less obvious. And the name of insane 'game of love' was more of an inside, from the lyrics of the song. But hey, who REALLY gets these songs before they read the translations? I'll tell you who... Japanese people... And... The occasional guy who really really likes anime.

EDIT: Happy30's mod
Derekku
Eh, I said to myself I was too lazy to mod, but I love Vocaloid songs too much to not jump on this one. I'll edit in around 15-20 minutes when I'm done~

EDIT: Here we go~ Nice job on this map! The storyboard is a nice touch, too.

[General]
You have an extra storyboard file in the folder. Is this an old one that you forgot to delete? Do a full resubmission once that's cleared up.

[Hopeless Romance]
I see that distance snap is used in some spots, but not in others. Please go back through the whole song with it on and make sure things are spacing correctly.

00:26:67 (2,3) - Easy difficulties should usually not have notes on blue ticks. Yeah, it fits with the music, but for a newbie trying to play, they're most likely miss the notes. Maybe just make this like 00:21:58 (1,2,3) ?
00:28:10 - Feels empty. Add a note or an extra repeat on (1).
00:30:84 (3) - Same thing about blue ticks.
00:31:50 (1) - End at 00:33:85. I have no idea why this continues on. Then after this, there's a big gap? Did you mean to put a break here? Map it or break it~ (I suggest map it)
00:51:58 (2) - Make this a slider to fit the music so it doesn't sound empty.
00:53:15 - Add something here too. Either add a note or a slider.
00:53:93 (1) - White tick after this is empty too
01:02:28 (7,8) - Maybe make this into one slider that extends past along with the singing.

I see a lot more blue tick notes, so I won't point out every single one.

01:25:76 (4) - Why is there far away from (3)? Easy difficulties shouldn't have jumps ;p
01:34:10 (1) - Keep part of the last combo.
01:36:71 (4) - Make this the new combo.
01:40:37 (1) - No break after this again. Map it like I suggested last time~
01:47:67 (4) - Tick after feels empty.

More areas with the same suggestions I've given.

02:05:41 (2) - Unrankable slider. Vert flip and put it below (1) or something.
02:30:71 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - More blue ticks. Arrrgh they fit with the music, so I suggest on doing this: Make the first two sets sliders that repeat once. Then after that, the player will see that they're triplets and can hit them right. If you can do that with sliders first on the earlier blue tick parts, then putting notes on blue ticks should be fine.
02:43:23 (4,5,6) - Confusing spot. I wouldn't stack notes/sliders like that on an easy diff. I think there were more like this earlier on in the song, but I missed them because I'm so used to harder diffs having them. Just fix them all :3
02:56:28 (1,2) - I'd make that a slider.
02:58:76 (5,6) - ^
03:00:45 (1,2) - ^
03:02:02 (4,5,6,7) - PERSONALLY, I'd make these each a new combo because they're so powerful and you want them to stand out going into the chorus, but it's all up to you. Right now they just feel a tad boring XP

PS: Good job mapping the whole diff. Usually people just map half of the song for an easy diff lolz *guilty*

[Heartbreaker]
First off, I notice that the offset on this is different than the others. Fix that and resnap notes. Also, I'd switch the names on this and the third difficulty. "Heartbreaker" sounds like a harder diff name to me, but it's not. It's all up to you, though :3 Distance spacing is also kind of weird on this, so fix that up, please. Also, I suggest mapping the two short breaks for sure. Possibly the third small one at the end, too.

00:28:37 (3) - I wouldnt stack this with (1,2) since there's a pause between them.
00:31:50 (1) - End earlier like on Easy.
00:38:28 (8) - Random pause after this. Map it please~
00:49:78 (1,2,3,4) - I'd make these as semi-jumps. It's a hard diff, so MAKE IT HARD mwahahaha (okay not super hard, but you get the point... right now they're just so closely spaced and boring)
01:32:56 (1) - Random combo by itself o_o;;
01:36:74 (1) - ^
02:07:52 (11) - New combo.
03:02:04 (4,5,6,7) - new combo jumps or something :P
03:06:74 (6) - Not stacked under (5) right. (I think there were more of these, but I'm too lazy to go back and check every slider, sorry XP)
03:17:17 (1) - End on white tick earlier.

Not too bad. Notes are kind of linear, but you could mix it up a little more when you fix distance spacing.

[The Game of Love]
I think distance spacing is okay here, EXCEPT for streams. Oh god those would be extremely hard to hit. Please space streams closer together. 0.6x spacing looks fine to me for them. 0.7 is a little bit too far, and 0.5 is a little bit too close (even though it would work, but would make it too easy) So yeah, you need to use the two different spacings for the map. One for regular spacing, and one for streams so no one tries to murder you for not being able to FC this. Map or don't map the short breaks. Your choice.

00:33:58 (3) - Random space after this.
00:38:28 (11) - ^
00:40:10 (2) - End on the red tick before.

I kinda gave up after this. Same suggestions for streams and all that. Also, some combos go into the high teens, so make them shorter. I also see a lot of deathstreams (streams like.. 9+ notes, which can be very difficult). Maybe make them less deathy? :3

01:42:45 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17) - Like this. a a 17-note deathstream and ughhhhhh and just ridiculous. I know you map better than that :P
01:45:06 (18) - Unrankable slider.
01:49:50 (7) - ^

Etc. I think you can take it from here XP

Good luck~
Topic Starter
Ozitiho
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
Derekku
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
Topic Starter
Ozitiho
Hah, well if ANY post deserved kudos it was your last one. I had been wondering where it was...
And i had a feeling, but i thought i'd go for 'she' coz you got 'chan'. xD

Anyway, i got some hours free. I guess i'll just edit insane for a bit, and think of some cool names. Because honestly, i had my doubts at 'heartbreaker' and 'game of love'. Shouldn't be to hard. It's just a name. But the problem is that i can't handle insane, so i have to go by feeling and a very limited ability to test.

And a btw, is it just me, or can't i at all find this beatmap in 'work in progress/help' forums?
Derekku
It goes by star priority so it's on... *checks* page 8 of this forum. If you ignore star priority, it's on page 1 :P

It CAN be difficult to make a difficulty above your own skill level, but that's why you have members in the community to check it and tell you how to fix it up :)
Yes_old
game of love
00:33:58 (3) - extend this one more tick to end at 00:35:41
00:38:28 (11) - also extend 1/4 tick
00:40:10 (2) - maybe shorten this slider so that it ends at 00:40:89
01:02:67 (4) - move this to start at 01:02:80 and delete (5)
01:05:41 (x) - add note
01:29:67 (8) - clap
01:48:45 (5) - ^
01:49:50 (7) - insert break after this?
02:03:06 (8) - clap
02:04:10 (10) - clap at the beginning
02:09:45 (8) - move this to start at 02:09:58 and delete (9)
02:13:50 (4) - insert break after this
02:32:28 (3) - clap
02:34:37 (3) - ^
02:35:54 (9,10) - move over <--- so it's alligned
02:36:45 (3) - clap
02:38:54 (3) - ^
02:40:63 (3) - ^
02:44:80 (3) - ^
03:07:76 (3) - clap at beginning of slider

hopeless romance (lower the overall difficulty and drain rate a little?)
00:13:76 (5) - i don't like the hitsound combination
00:24:97 (x) - note here

heartbreaker
00:39:58 (x) - add note here and clap?
01:46:37 - ^
02:00:84 (x) - note?
02:32:28 (2) - clap
02:34:37 (2) -
02:36:45 (2) -
02:38:54 (2) -
02:39:32 (5,6) - allign with 3
02:39:71 (7,8) - allign with 2
02:40:63 (2) - clap
02:42:45 (1) - clap on first return
02:43:50 (2,3) - whistles
03:13:76 (5) - allign with 3
03:15:06 (3) - clap on this instead of 4

i'll mod the rest later >___<
it's a really good start for a map. needs a little work, but you'll get there n_n
Topic Starter
Ozitiho
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
Yes_old
noo don't give up so easily T___T it is a good map. just bother people to mod it for you!
Topic Starter
Ozitiho
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
Derekku
Try asking for help in the #mod channel. Otherwise, your map will get buried by the hundreds of other Pending/WIP maps :P

Say it's a Vocaloid map and you might even get more attention :D
Krisom
Hope you have not given up on this one.

I tried modding it, but I could not find anything, I guess I'm pretty newbie in this XD.

Hope this one gets more attention.

-Star-
happy30
[SB]

Make sure the SB elements are smaller than 800x600
BG should be smaller than 1024x768
The first SB thingy if moving pretty fast?

[Always in love]

Spacing was weird sometimes, not much else

[Polygamist]

Nothing wrong.

[PH]

01:00:71 (6) - wut
Topic Starter
Ozitiho
Can a mod ressurect this map? I quit Osu a bit ago, and started playing again a shorter bit ago.
And i played some ranked maps and i'm like: "I can do better..!"
So imma do better now... : D
Derekku

Ozitiho wrote:

Can a mod ressurect this map? I quit Osu a bit ago, and started playing again a shorter bit ago.
And i played some ranked maps and i'm like: "I can do better..!"
So imma do better now... : D
Ask in #osu if a BAT/GMT is around and they should (hopefully) be more than happy to revive it for you.
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