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GARNiDELiA - Aikotoba TV Size ver. [Taiko]

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This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 2019年10月6日 at 下午 10:30:54

Artist: GARNiDELiA
Title: Aikotoba TV Size ver.
Source: アニメガタリズ
Tags: aabc271 kanpakyin kpy Anime Gataris
BPM: 148
Filesize: 2828kb
Play Time: 01:28
Difficulties Available:
  1. aabc's Oni (3.26 stars, 399 notes)
  2. Futsuu (2.05 stars, 243 notes)
  3. Inner Oni (4.27 stars, 520 notes)
  4. Kanpakyin's Inner Oni (3.61 stars, 448 notes)
  5. Kantan (1.27 stars, 125 notes)
  6. Muzukashii (2.93 stars, 342 notes)
Download: GARNiDELiA - Aikotoba TV Size ver.
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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額...我好像有一年多沒上傳過圖了?
BG自己PS的
meta check: http://www.garnidelia.com/info/archive/?486709
I don't like the new thread so... here is the normal thread backup
aabc's Oni by aabc271
kanpakyin's Inner Oni by kanpakyin
Nardoxyribonucleic
Hey 薯片, here are some suggestions regarding Inner Oni upon testplaying.

IRC mod with spboxer3, Nov 6, 2017
22:11 spboxer3: hi Nardoxy, would you mind to help test my new Taiko map _(:3」ㄥ)_?
22:29 Nardoxyribonucleic: Hmm sure
22:30 *spboxer3 is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1459215 GARNiDELiA - Aikotoba TV Size ver.]
22:30 spboxer3: 謝謝:D
22:33 Nardoxyribonucleic: 感覺一般timing point SV用1.0x比較好
22:33 spboxer3: 其實那個1/8還有變速SV有點擔心會被挑事 想問問看你的意見 覺得這些如何
22:33 spboxer3: lol 你剛剛開了HR呢
22:33 Nardoxyribonucleic: And ninja note 2.0x seems better
22:34 spboxer3: 恩恩 我等等改
22:36 Nardoxyribonucleic: 00:47:160 (44,45,46,47,48) - maybe try 1/6 pattern here instead of 1/8? Although 1/8 fits the snaps there, it comes out of a sudden.
22:36 spboxer3: 一般的sv 1.0我是覺得有些慢了 因為每個note黏得太緊了
22:37 spboxer3: 恩... 其實這個1/6我也有想過 不過後來感覺1/8還是比較適合 如果有很多人說這個點的話我會改的
22:38 Nardoxyribonucleic: 感覺baseline 1.0就好 歌曲本身慢nomod才會貼
22:39 Nardoxyribonucleic: 00:47:160 - 這裡用1/6可以試試kkkd
22:39 spboxer3: 恩... 其實我個人感覺也不太準 找mod時我會參考看看多一點人意見的 因為這首歌我自己的感覺是比較輕快點 所以不該這麼黏
22:39 spboxer3: 好的 如果修改成1/6的話我會考慮用kkkd的
22:40 Nardoxyribonucleic: 00:07:025 (24) - consider adding finish here to mark the end of the prelude?
22:42 spboxer3: 其實這地方本來我是放D的 後來改掉是因為 後面幾節的patten沒法對映著這個D 會顯得這個D有些不平衡
22:43 spboxer3: 恩...還是加上好了XD
22:45 Nardoxyribonucleic: 00:39:356 (207) - move to 00:39:457 - and add d at 00:39:761 - ? This seems to follow the background sounds better
22:46 spboxer3: ok 這個我改 感覺確實比較順
22:49 Nardoxyribonucleic: 00:41:180 (6) - 00:42:802 (15) - 00:44:424 (25) - 感覺這三個音有點沒對上拍子 雖然結構上一致但打起來有欠自然
22:49 spboxer3: 其實這個是故意做出來有一些不和諧的感覺得
22:51 spboxer3: 算是自己加的 嘗試一些歌曲中沒有的beat 試著和歌曲融合
22:51 Nardoxyribonucleic: Alright, you may give this a try xD
22:52 Nardoxyribonucleic: I just point out the observation
22:52 spboxer3: 非常感謝!!!
22:52 spboxer3: 其實本來沒指望你幫忙看這麼多的 因為QAT通常很忙的orz...
22:54 Nardoxyribonucleic: 00:53:038 (93) - how about using d here to emphasize the upcoming K?
22:54 Nardoxyribonucleic: This fits the pitch difference of vocals as well
22:55 spboxer3: sure
22:55 spboxer3: 改了!
22:56 Nardoxyribonucleic: 00:59:728 (136) - I think you may have missed the finish here?
22:56 Nardoxyribonucleic: Sounds underwhelming as the start of kiai
22:57 spboxer3: ok
23:02 Nardoxyribonucleic: 大致上就這麼多了 還有就是在notepad 把base slider velocity改回1.40 現在好像有小數點BUG
23:02 spboxer3: 喔喔 謝謝你

Good luck~ :)
aabc271
你要的 oni 作好了 :)

aabc's Oni
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256,192,57092,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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leo16834
好像還是可以在v1留言耶

大概像這樣 找到v1頁面之後 隨便選定一個做quote的動作 就可以了 不過他有時候頁面會跳轉失敗 看點運氣
polka
[general]
  1. 01:27:092 - I've checked with a qat in the past, kiai flashes in taiko aren't allowed.

[kantan]

  1. 00:22:430 (3,4,5) - this pattern could alternate between ddd and dkd because there is a snare in the music and it does get repetitive kind of fast.
  2. 00:32:160 (18,19,20,21,22) - dkdkd works a lot better because I feel like the build up in the music isn't properly being represented with ddddd.
  3. 00:50:808 (49) - k here does a LOT better
    1. 00:55:673 (57) - ^
    2. 01:07:836 (78) - ^ k here fits the vocals.
    3. 01:09:052 (81) - ^
    4. 01:28:106 (115) - ^
    00:52:025 (51) -
  4. a d here would fit the music a lot better.
  5. 00:56:484 (58,59,60,61,62) - I think all of these as k would fit that hi hat in the song.
  6. 00:59:322 (63) - You should really make this some sort of either D or K. It's a powerful sound not being represented that well.
    1. 01:12:295 (87) - ^
[futsuu]

  1. 00:12:295 (36) - k for the snare?
  2. 00:13:106 (39,40) - dd because the synth sound gets lower in pitch, like what you did at 00:16:147 (49,50) - .
  3. 00:41:484 - You're skipping an important sound and that threw me off as I was playing.
    1. 00:43:106 - ^
    2. 00:45:133 - ^
  4. 01:28:106 (115) - I like a k here better because of the snare thingy in the music.
[muzu]
  1. 00:18:174 (51) - when I was playing, I would've liked a d here better because the sound is not as important as the k before it.
  2. 00:18:579 (52,53,54,55) - These feel really out of place. Why not go to the music like you did in futsuu?
  3. 00:47:565 (171,172,173,174) - Something about this pattern, specifically the last k, really doesn't feel right. But I'm not that good at explaining myself in taiko to say why...
I can't play onis sorry D:

Thanks for the m4m!!! Tbh you're like my favorite '11 mapper so when you modded my map I got really excited but Im sorry I couldnt do as good of a mod in return....
Topic Starter
spboxer3

Veridian wrote:

[general]
  1. 01:27:092 - I've checked with a qat in the past, kiai flashes in taiko aren't allowed.

[kantan]

  1. 00:22:430 (3,4,5) - this pattern could alternate between ddd and dkd because there is a snare in the music and it does get repetitive kind of fast. :arrow: yes I know dkd is better but I want to make kantan pattern more ez, so... XD
  2. 00:32:160 (18,19,20,21,22) - dkdkd works a lot better because I feel like the build up in the music isn't properly being represented with ddddd. :arrow: ^ same as previous issue~
  3. 00:50:808 (49) - k here does a LOT better :arrow: ^
    1. 00:55:673 (57) - ^ :arrow: ^
    2. 01:07:836 (78) - ^ k here fits the vocals. :arrow: ^
    3. 01:09:052 (81) - ^ :arrow: ^
    4. 01:28:106 (115) - ^ :arrow: change a bit to d k
    00:52:025 (51) -
  4. a d here would fit the music a lot better. :arrow: same as previous issue :<
  5. 00:56:484 (58,59,60,61,62) - I think all of these as k would fit that hi hat in the song. :arrow: well, in kantan diff, I won't used pitch or some instruments to change d/k, want to make kantan more ez to play~
  6. 00:59:322 (63) - You should really make this some sort of either D or K. It's a powerful sound not being represented that well. :arrow: I prefer to avoid all K or D in Futsuu or Kantan cuz it's kinda hard to newbie. tbh I think K here is better but... yeah ~"~
    1. 01:12:295 (87) - ^ :arrow: ^
[futsuu]

  1. 00:12:295 (36) - k for the snare? :arrow: umm... sorry to skip this I think dd here is better, cuz my mapping sense not only follow the pitch or instruments, I'm try to mixed it. so... tho k is good too, I will keep used d here.
  2. 00:13:106 (39,40) - dd because the synth sound gets lower in pitch, like what you did at 00:16:147 (49,50) - . :arrow: yes I know here gets lower pitch but... if I used d here then 00:13:511 (41) - must be d too ( make it increase with 00:07:025 (18) - ) but 00:13:309 (40,41) - must be contrast... so... I will keep this part here.
  3. 00:41:484 - You're skipping an important sound and that threw me off as I was playing. :arrow: yes I always skip some stress beat for my Taiko diff. it make a crucial touch in my mind.
    1. 00:43:106 - ^ :arrow: ^
    2. 00:45:133 - ^ :arrow: ^
  4. 01:28:106 (115) - I like a k here better because of the snare thingy in the music. :arrow: yea~It's k now
[muzu]
  1. 00:18:174 (51) - when I was playing, I would've liked a d here better because the sound is not as important as the k before it. :arrow: LOL, b-but I think kk here is good enough even better the kd ;w;
  2. 00:18:579 (52,53,54,55) - These feel really out of place. Why not go to the music like you did in futsuu? :arrow: umm... good point, I will thinking about it if have other modder say the same problem.
  3. 00:47:565 (171,172,173,174) - Something about this pattern, specifically the last k, really doesn't feel right. But I'm not that good at explaining myself in taiko to say why.. :arrow: used k d here just want to make some playing feel and increase. tbh I used 3/4 here before, but It's kinda hard to muzu player, so Nao said it should be changed.
I can't play onis sorry D:

Thanks for the m4m!!! Tbh you're like my favorite '11 mapper so when you modded my map I got really excited but Im sorry I couldnt do as good of a mod in return.... :arrow: thanks and nvm XD
Aurele
I didn't realize this was in moddingv2 hahaha.

Posting the chatlog here. Feel free to upvote in moddingv2!

chatlog
03:10 spboxer3: gabe bubble my map plz QQ (/me runs
03:10 Gabe: is it taiko
03:10 spboxer3: yes
03:10 Gabe: great
03:10 spboxer3: LOL
03:10 Gabe: send it to me
03:10 Gabe: LMAO
03:11 *spboxer3 is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1467134 GARNiDELiA - Aikotoba TV Size ver.]
03:11 spboxer3: this one lol
03:14 Gabe: meta confirmed?
03:15 spboxer3: oh... wasn't I post the meta check post on the thread :o
03:15 spboxer3: lemme check
03:16 spboxer3: http://www.garnidelia.com/info/archive/?486709 thisone
03:22 Gabe: ok so, what I've seen on the muzukashii and I totally understand your reasoning, there are places that you could be using finishes
03:22 Gabe: like similar places on the Oni and the Inner Oni
03:23 Gabe: 01:02:565 (10) - like this one
03:23 Gabe: 01:05:808 (24) - this one and so on
03:23 spboxer3: oh... I think muzu should be easiear for oni, but if u think it's ok I will add it
03:24 Gabe: and also, I guess you can add a finisher to 00:59:727 (221) - as weel
03:24 Gabe: well*
03:24 Gabe: since it's the beginning of the kiai and it's normally stronger
03:25 spboxer3: yes, add finish is batter~ I added
03:29 Gabe: did you update? c:
03:29 Gabe: I want to see the changes
03:30 spboxer3: ok lemme update now
03:31 spboxer3: done
03:33 Gabe: this is great!
03:37 Gabe: hm, there's a big gap between Kantan and Futsuu
03:37 spboxer3: umm.. should I make kantan harder?
03:37 Gabe: just a bit
03:37 spboxer3: ok I will try
03:37 Gabe: I realize you were using the same pattern, over and over
03:37 Gabe: during the whole difficulty
03:38 Gabe: 01:09:052 (81) - this note can be deleted, if you were focusing on the vocals
03:39 spboxer3: ok, and I deleted 01:22:025 (104) - too
03:39 Gabe: yeah, that's great
03:41 Gabe: 00:13:106 - you could add a note here, since it's different from 00:08:647 (12,13,14,15) -
03:41 Gabe: a kat could be ok
03:41 spboxer3: yea, added
03:43 Gabe: 00:25:673 (8,9,10,11) - you could do something similar here as well to differentiate this pattern to 00:22:430 (3,4,5,6) -
03:43 Gabe: like, you can add a kat to 00:26:890 - and change (10) for a kat also
03:44 Gabe: you can apply the same pattern to 00:32:160 (18,19,20,21,22) - too
03:46 spboxer3: 00:39:863 - added k too?
03:46 Gabe: yes
03:46 spboxer3: done :3
03:47 Gabe: let's try something with the futsuu now
03:47 spboxer3: kk
03:48 Gabe: the first 10 notes are exactly the same on every difficulty, from Futsuu to Inner Oni except a note on 00:02:363 - on the Inner
03:48 Gabe: Can you try to do something that is between Kantan and the other difficulties?
03:49 spboxer3: like... remove 00:01:552 (4) - ?
03:50 Gabe: https://gabe.s-ul.eu/bZTsKsEO
03:50 Gabe: what about this?
03:50 spboxer3: sound good too
03:51 spboxer3: 00:04:998 - removed too
03:51 Gabe: yup
03:53 Gabe: what do you think about removing both 00:09:660 - and 00:09:863 - on the Futsuu?
03:54 Gabe: it's not an issue tho
03:54 spboxer3: I think remove 660 is okay, but remove both will make this part too empty
03:55 spboxer3: umm... how about you think
03:55 Gabe: I mean, you can leave both
03:55 Gabe: of course it would make it empty, but it would simplify the difficulty
03:56 Gabe: it follows the right sounds anyways
03:56 Gabe: so it's okay to leave them :D
03:56 spboxer3: ok~ but I think remove 660 is batter so I will remove 660
03:56 Gabe: alright! :3
03:56 Gabe: (btw, it's better, not batter haha)
03:57 spboxer3: lol typo
03:57 spboxer3: I will removed all like 660 part
03:57 Gabe: alright :D
04:00 Gabe: you can update
04:00 Gabe: I will recheck again
04:01 spboxer3: update done
04:04 Gabe: alright
04:04 Gabe: you're good with this?
04:05 spboxer3: with... uhh? I'm kinda confuse what u mean x.x
04:05 Gabe: I mean
04:06 Gabe: everything is ready?
04:06 Gabe: haha
04:06 spboxer3: yes it's ready!!
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