Yoko Takahashi - Zankoku na Tenshi no These <TV.Size Version · forum

moph

Joined January 2013

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moph 2017-09-24T09:31:30+00:00

This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Sunday, 6 May 2018 at 5:39:39 p.m.

Artist: Yoko Takahashi
Title: Zankoku na Tenshi no These <TV.Size Version>
Source: 新世紀エヴァンゲリオン
Tags: Neon Genesis Evangelion opening Cruel Angel's Thesis ambient rizen
BPM: 80
Filesize: 19022kb
Play Time: 01:28
Difficulties Available:

Advanced (2.46 stars, 163 notes)
Ambient's Insane (3.84 stars, 308 notes)
Extra (4.56 stars, 352 notes)
Normal (1.91 stars, 122 notes)
Rizen's Hard (3.09 stars, 265 notes)
Extreme (5.5 stars, 371 notes)

Download: Yoko Takahashi - Zankoku na Tenshi no These <TV.Size Version>
Download: Yoko Takahashi - Zankoku na Tenshi no These <TV.Size Version> (no video)
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Last edited by moph 2019-08-01T07:20:15+00:00, edited 42 times in total.

kwk

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kwk 2017-09-24T09:54:56+00:00

moph mapping anime????

moph

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moph 2017-09-26T01:32:17+00:00

only the best

Ambient

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Ambient 2017-09-26T05:41:12+00:00

yeah the bois

Buttercup

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Buttercup 2017-10-01T16:11:54+00:00

omg anime

Juiceys

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Joined June 2016

Juiceys 2017-10-02T04:41:01+00:00

Ambient's Insane:

00:34:456 (4,1) - I don't really like how this looks, maybe you could have 1's Sliderend stack with one of 4's points?
00:44:717 (1,2) - Nazi blanket

01:07:105 (1,2,3) - Spacing here hella confused me because it's similar to 01:05:240 (1,2,3) - So I thought it would be 1/4 taps because spacing was similar
maybe change it

01:28:910 (2) - Sound ends on the blue tick before, weird to have it end on no sound

00:21:863 (8,9,10) - the jump here shouldn't be so large because the sound is insignificant compared to 00:20:464 (1,2,3,4) - the biggest jumps should be here

Normal:

00:23:262 (2,3) - blanket off my dude

SPOILER

01:05:006 (4,5) - Same

01:22:031 (1,2) - Beginner players will click the reverse by mistake, make it so that 2's sliderhead is closer to 1 than the slidertail

moph

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moph 2017-10-02T06:46:10+00:00

Juiceys wrote:
Normal:

00:23:262 (2,3) - blanket off my dude
SPOILER

01:05:006 (4,5) - Same

01:22:031 (1,2) - Beginner players will click the reverse by mistake, make it so that 2's sliderhead is closer to 1 than the slidertail

fixed all, thanks!

Ambient

579 posts

Joined August 2013

Ambient 2017-10-02T12:58:06+00:00

Juiceys wrote:
Ambient's Insane:

00:34:456 (4,1) - I don't really like how this looks, maybe you could have 1's Sliderend stack with one of 4's points? - i think its fine for the time being.
00:44:717 (1,2) - Nazi blanket - Fixed!

01:07:105 (1,2,3) - Spacing here hella confused me because it's similar to 01:05:240 (1,2,3) - So I thought it would be 1/4 taps because spacing was similar
maybe change it - fine for the time being, unless someone else brings it up.

01:28:910 (2) - Sound ends on the blue tick before, weird to have it end on no sound Fixed!

00:21:863 (8,9,10) - the jump here shouldn't be so large because the sound is insignificant compared to 00:20:464 (1,2,3,4) - the biggest jumps should be here moved some stuff around

Thanks for the mod!

Update

osu file format v14

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AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 66989
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.3
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 1

[Editor]
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DistanceSpacing: 1.4
BeatDivisor: 8
GridSize: 32
TimelineZoom: 2.2

[Metadata]
Title:Zankoku na Tenshi no Tze
TitleUnicode:残酷な天使のテーゼ
Artist:Yoko Takahashi
ArtistUnicode:高橋 洋子
Creator:moph
Version:Ambient's Insane
Source:新世紀エヴァンゲリオン
Tags:Neon Genesis Evangelion opening Cruel Angel's Thesis ambient rizen aqpw a_q_p_w
BeatmapID:1423969
BeatmapSetID:672960

[Difficulty]
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CircleSize:4
OverallDifficulty:7
ApproachRate:8
SliderMultiplier:2.9
SliderTickRate:1

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Affirmation

2,543 posts

Joined March 2015

Affirmation 2017-10-07T10:46:11+00:00

Q

[Extra]
00:22:679 - why you didn't add a beat here? you added at 00:37:604 (2) - 00:24:545 (2) - 00:26:410 (2) - other parts...
00:48:448 (1,2) - looks too big jump comparing with other parts?
01:08:971 (1,5) - stack?
01:28:561 (3,1) - swap NC like 01:21:098 (1,2) -

[Insane]
00:11:497 (5) - NC?
00:57:544 (6,2,3) - could you avoid this linear overlap? looks not so good imo.

GL

Ambient

579 posts

Joined August 2013

Ambient 2017-10-07T12:17:41+00:00

Neoskylove wrote:
[Insane]
00:11:497 (5) - NC? - Okie
00:57:544 (6,2,3) - could you avoid this linear overlap? looks not so good imo. - holy moly thanks for pointing that out, fixed.

GL

Thanks for the mod

wew

osu file format v14

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TitleUnicode:残酷な天使のテーゼ
Artist:Yoko Takahashi
ArtistUnicode:高橋 洋子
Creator:moph
Version:Ambient's Insane
Source:新世紀エヴァンゲリオン
Tags:Neon Genesis Evangelion opening Cruel Angel's Thesis ambient rizen aqpw a_q_p_w
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moph

1,147 posts

Joined January 2013

Topic Starter

moph 2017-10-07T12:30:23+00:00

Neoskylove wrote:
[Extra]
00:22:679 - why you didn't add a beat here? you added at 00:37:604 (2) - 00:24:545 (2) - 00:26:410 (2) - other parts... made consistent
00:48:448 (1,2) - looks too big jump comparing with other parts? fixed
01:08:971 (1,5) - stack? fixed
01:28:561 (3,1) - swap NC like 01:21:098 (1,2) - fixed

thank you!

Froskya

1,231 posts

Joined April 2014

Froskya 2017-10-07T15:23:08+00:00

Hi! NM from Revinya's Queue!

General

Off "Widescreen Support"
Set combo colours
Maybe at 01:07:105 don't make NC but make it in 01:07:572 and in other same parts?

Normal

Some HS are lost
00:49:381 (1) - delete NC
01:29:260 - move timing point
00:50:314 - delete timing point

Advanced

00:21:746 (1) - delete NC
01:29:260 - move timing point

Rizen's Hard

01:06:522 - 01:06:989 - delete timing points
01:07:572 - 01:07:922 - ^

Ambient'sInsane

00:34:456 (4,5,6,1) - pretty strange pattern
01:29:260 - move timing point
01:29:144 - make it weak

Extra

00:20:464 (1,2,1,2) - well it can looks better rly
00:57:194 (7,8,9) - ^
00:58:710 (6,7,8,9) - ^
00:30:725 (4) - NC
00:32:590 (4) - ^
00:45:650 (4) - ^
00:47:515 (4) - ^
01:29:260 - move timing point
01:29:260 - make it weak

Good map, rank it!~ :>

timemon

Beatmap Nominator

1,305 posts

Joined November 2012

timemon 2017-10-07T17:05:39+00:00

why is the vocal always doing the 3/4
[Normal]
I think the object density outside of the kiai part is very close to the kiai which makes the kiai stand out a lot less.
I suggest you lower the density out of the kiai like 00:15:566 (2) - 00:19:297 (2) - these are not so important sound, no need to map them

It's too late for this but your slider velocity is extremely high for a normal diff. Next time use 0.8-1.2 lol

00:30:491 (2) - you can also cut this as the consecutive 1/2 is going on for too long

00:49:381 (1) - NC error

[Advanced]
00:21:746 (1) - why NC here?
00:26:993 (2,3) - you were following the vocal but why suddenly switch to the instrument?

[Rizen's hard]
01:07:572 (2) - would be cool if you NC this one imo same for 01:15:034 (2) - and so on

the diff looks fine but im mostly concerned about the spaced doubles at 00:17:665 (5,6) - and 01:24:829 (5,6) - . Just the fact that it's a double already makes it too hard. imo you shouldn't space them so much but stack them instead

[Ambient's Insane]
01:14:568 (1,2) - you make the 1/2 look visually too similar to the 1/4 stream and can lead to readability issue especially when I don't see spaced 1/2 or stack 1/2 introduced early on which is sort of a gimmick. I suggest you just map the 1/2 like a small jump, space them out enough to not be mistaken for a 1/4.

Also I think the map could use some SV manipulation like here 01:07:572 (3) - and so on because the sound is so powerful

[Extra]
01:28:910 (3) - NC for final object?

good luck and don't forget to set your combo colours

defiance

503 posts

Joined July 2015

defiance 2017-10-07T17:23:55+00:00

this is the only anime i will accept being mapped

moph

1,147 posts

Joined January 2013

Topic Starter

moph 2017-10-08T05:58:09+00:00

Revialink wrote:
Hi! NM from Revinya's Queue!
General

Off "Widescreen Support" done
Set combo colours done
Maybe at 01:07:105 don't make NC but make it in 01:07:572 and in other same parts? I think the NC there makes sense

Normal

Some HS are lost yeah, I don't really want to make slider tick rate 2 so I'll keep it as is for now
00:49:381 (1) - delete NC fixed
01:29:260 - move timing point done
00:50:314 - delete timing point done

Advanced

00:21:746 (1) - delete NC fixed
01:29:260 - move timing point fixed

Extra

00:20:464 (1,2,1,2) - well it can looks better rly I tried ;;
00:57:194 (7,8,9) - ^ ^
00:58:710 (6,7,8,9) - ^ ^
00:30:725 (4) - NC nah I'm NCing every new stanza
00:32:590 (4) - ^ ^
00:45:650 (4) - ^ ^
00:47:515 (4) - ^ ^
01:29:260 - move timing point done
01:29:260 - make it weak done

Good map, rank it!~ :>

thank you for the mod!

timemon wrote:
why is the vocal always doing the 3/4 same
[Normal]
I think the object density outside of the kiai part is very close to the kiai which makes the kiai stand out a lot less.
I suggest you lower the density out of the kiai like 00:15:566 (2) - 00:19:297 (2) - these are not so important sound, no need to map them yeah I was worried about that, deleted the two notes

It's too late for this but your slider velocity is extremely high for a normal diff. Next time use 0.8-1.2 lol yeah oops

00:30:491 (2) - you can also cut this as the consecutive 1/2 is going on for too long section strictly follows the vocals so I'd rather not skip it

00:49:381 (1) - NC error fixed

[Advanced]
00:21:746 (1) - why NC here? no idea, fixed
00:26:993 (2,3) - you were following the vocal but why suddenly switch to the instrument? did this to kind of break away from the constant 3/4 rhythms. Did it again later at the same place for consistency so I hope its fine

[Extra]
01:28:910 (3) - NC for final object? sure

good luck and don't forget to set your combo colours yep done

thanks for the mod!

Ambient

579 posts

Joined August 2013

Ambient 2017-10-09T08:55:31+00:00

timemon wrote:
[Ambient's Insane]
01:14:568 (1,2) - you make the 1/2 look visually too similar to the 1/4 stream and can lead to readability issue especially when I don't see spaced 1/2 or stack 1/2 introduced early on which is sort of a gimmick. I suggest you just map the 1/2 like a small jump, space them out enough to not be mistaken for a 1/4. - since the same pattern is at the start of the kiai, you'd expect it to come up again, so i think its fine.

Also I think the map could use some SV manipulation like here 01:07:572 (3) - and so on because the sound is so powerful - changed the SV for the kiai to x1.10

Revialink wrote:
Ambient'sInsane

00:34:456 (4,5,6,1) - pretty strange pattern - she be right
01:29:260 - move timing point - uhh dont think i really need to
01:29:144 - make it weak - sure thing

Thanks for the mods guys!

UPDATE

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Ambrew

431 posts

Joined January 2016

Ambrew 2017-10-10T01:28:50+00:00

Ambient's insane
01:07:105 (1,2,3) - Only real problem I have with this, both can misread it and underemphasizes the slider. Could you maybe unstack the 2?
01:10:137 (6,7) - Not sure why an emphasis on a sliderend, instead of having something clickable here
01:19:232 (1,2,3,4) - weird rhythm. I'd keep this type of rhythm 01:18:299 (1,2,3,4) -

Same applies to other half of kiai section

Extra
00:21:396 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - This is okay but I'd use slightly bigger spaced streams, still a louder part of the song, and feels too cluttered imo
01:04:190 (4,5,6,7) - Felt more natural here 01:00:575 (5,6,7,8) - but you'd only have to delete the circle after this

That's all! good luck~

Ambient

579 posts

Joined August 2013

Ambient 2017-10-10T03:06:24+00:00

Ambrew wrote:
Ambient's insane
01:07:105 (1,2,3) - Only real problem I have with this, both can misread it and underemphasizes the slider. Could you maybe unstack the 2? - dunno how it under-emphasizes the slider, m8 listen to that trumpet go, also in terms of readability its fine. tv size op just retr
01:10:137 (6,7) - Not sure why an emphasis on a sliderend, instead of having something clickable here - fair enough, fixed.
01:19:232 (1,2,3,4) - weird rhythm. I'd keep this type of rhythm 01:18:299 (1,2,3,4) - - i think its fine

Same applies to other half of kiai section

thanks for the mod!

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moph

1,147 posts

Joined January 2013

Topic Starter

moph 2017-10-10T03:18:39+00:00

Ambrew wrote:
Extra
00:21:396 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - This is okay but I'd use slightly bigger spaced streams, still a louder part of the song, and feels too cluttered imo keeping it to match the sliders, imo it looks fine ;;
01:04:190 (4,5,6,7) - Felt more natural here 01:00:575 (5,6,7,8) - but you'd only have to delete the circle after this not sure I get what you mean here sorry, I think its ok

That's all! good luck~

thanks Ambrew!

kwk

572 posts

Joined May 2010

kwk 2018-04-23T12:01:35+00:00

~
general
00:22:329 - dont you think the hitsounding in this section seems a bit too empty? maybe could just add a hitsound to the guitar on beats like 00:24:195 - 00:26:061 (1) - etc

top
00:15:216 (2,3) - 00:16:616 (4,1) - etc might be worth nerfing these jumps a bit,when you compare it to the kiai its quite big, or alternatively blow up your kiai a bit more
00:20:464 (1,2,1,2) - imo better to have more movement here, not a lot of cursor movement when you just click heads
00:36:322 (1,1) - misstack?
00:38:887 - 00:40:753 - maybe make these clickable? i think triple rhythm is better since vocals start here, you do it later on in the section but i think its worth doing it here too.
00:57:777 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - gradual increase in spacing could be cool
01:13:635 (1,2) - increase spacing here?

ambi
00:14:867 - volume conflict
00:19:414 (4,5) - much rather u unstack these since it kinda loses it emphasis,do what u did here 00:18:948 (2,3) -
00:50:664 (2,4,6) - kinda similar to the above, this bit seems a bit underwhelming, a large spike in difficulty somewhat would be nice
00:58:127 (2,4,6,8) - maybe stack on the end of the previous slider? i think that could be kinda cool, right now its just kinda filler-esque

rizen
00:14:867 - sampleset conflict

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