Camellia - Towards The Horizon · forum

Pho

Joined November 2013

Topic Starter

Pho 2017-07-06T18:15:30+00:00

This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Wednesday, 28 February 2018 at 20:33:24

Artist: Camellia
Title: Towards The Horizon
Source: REFLEC BEAT 悠久のリフレシア
Tags: RB Illusiya イルシヤ 6th KONAMI Arcade Championship KAC bemani The Reflesia of Eternity asaiga underdogs yauxo sahuang chaoslitz chaoz
BPM: 154,38
Filesize: 6826kb
Play Time: 02:01
Difficulties Available:

Asaiga's Easy (1,4 stars, 94 notes)
Chaoz's Extra (5,56 stars, 696 notes)
Normal (2,05 stars, 194 notes)
sahuang's Expert (5,26 stars, 662 notes)
Underdogs' Hard (3,18 stars, 344 notes)
White Extra (6,21 stars, 548 notes)
Yauxo's Insane (4,13 stars, 447 notes)

Download: Camellia - Towards The Horizon
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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White Extra - me
Extra - Chaoslitz
Expert - sahuang
Insane - Yauxo
Hard - Underdogs
Normal - me
Easy - Asaiga

With permission from N/A.
Original set: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/578445

Thanks :3

Last edited by Pho 2018-02-28T19:34:55+00:00, edited 31 times in total.

LMT

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Underdogs

820 posts

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Underdogs 2017-11-28T00:33:25+00:00

SPOILER

osu file format v14

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Title:Towards The Horizon
TitleUnicode:Towards The Horizon
Artist:Camellia
ArtistUnicode:かめりあ
Creator:Pho
Version:Underdogs' ADVANCED
Source:REFLEC BEAT 悠久のリフレシア
Tags:RB Illusiya イルシヤ 6th KONAMI Arcade Championship KAC bemani The Reflesia of Eternity asaiga sahuang chaoslitz yauxo
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bsc

93 posts

Joined August 2015

bsc 2017-12-24T01:43:16+00:00

Hello

HYPER

00:07:403 (1) - Fix the overlap, it's not pixel-perfect
00:21:781 (3) - Feels really empty in here. Maybe a long slider could be changed to something else?
00:36:159 (6,7) - Maybe slightly increase the distance snap so that you can get rid of the small overlap with (2)?
00:45:874 (1) - Why is the part following this circle empty? I know you are trying to follow the background flute but there are other parts in the song where you follow the beat instead.
01:05:304 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - Make this pattern more linear, if you look closely the direction of it is slightly curved.
01:21:237 (1,2) - A mild design error, but I don't recommend having slider points end outside of the area of the slider.

Kiai and the part followed after it appear to be absolutely fine.

EXHAUST

00:03:322 (5,6,7) - Looks quite unattractive. How about a 120 degree pattern of these three? https://i.imgur.com/W0rP7CV.jpg
00:03:905 (1) - You are ignoring the blue tick after the end of this slider. I'd recommend to start the stream from there and not from the red tick.
00:04:683 (1,2,3,4) - I understand what you're trying to make here, but it doesn't really work after a stream, especially if you are going to apply the above suggestion.
00:05:460 (1) - Same thing as above.
00:06:431 (2) - Here you are following the 1/2 background, 00:07:014 (1) - but here you have decided to follow the synth again.
00:08:569 (1,2,3) - This idea doesn't really look attractive.
00:10:900 (1,2,3,4) - Similar suggestion as the earlier one. If you're not into changing it, maybe you could leave the first object as a 1/4 slider, but then keep the remaining 3 objects as a circle?
00:17:506 (4) - Looks like a very rough curve. Make it smoother?
00:36:936 (2) - Overlap not pixel-perfect
00:37:131 (3,1,2,1) - Looks as if you ran out of space. The slider facing another angle doesn't look nice.
00:40:822 (1,2) - That's quite a big gap...
00:41:211 (1) - Make the slider smoother?
00:53:646 (1) - Polish this slider a bit more. The sides are uneven.
00:54:423 (2) - Quite bland. Maybe enhance it bit more?
01:06:081 (1) - Here you ignore the 1/4 flute at the end of this slider, yet here 01:12:882 (2) - you actually map a 1/4 stack to it.
01:14:242 (2) - I'd recommend you to start the 1/4 repeat slider stream from here since this is where the 1/4 beat actually starts.
01:16:962 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Looks messy and out of place.
01:18:517 (1) - Try to be more creative.
01:21:626 (1,2) - Not the most attractive pattern.
01:23:374 (2,3,4,5,6) - Try fixing the slight overlap?
01:25:512 (1,2) - Looks ugly, I'd say you should mirror the first slider.
01:30:952 (1) - Polish it a bit more. The curves at the start and end are uneven and rough.
01:35:615 (1) - You've been mapping this sound with more simplistic sliders, yet here you have used a very technical mirrored slider. Try to be more consistent.
01:46:496 (1) - Polish the angles more.
01:48:050 (1) - Quite an ugly choice of a slider there.

asdf
00:09:540 (4,5,6) - Quite a messy overlap.
00:12:649 (7) - Try changing the direction, because that curved slider looks kind of out of place.
00:25:278 (1) - The 1/2 beat starts from 00:25:667 (1) - not from where you've started it.
00:26:056 (1) - That's where you should start the 1/4 doublets from.
00:31:107 (2,3) - I feel like CTRL+G would work better here.
00:31:690 (2) - Looks out of place, perhaps mirror the slider before it?
00:35:576 (2,5) - A nasty overlap.
00:38:102 (1) - The ending point is longer than the starting point.
00:39:268 (1,2) - Stuff like this just doesn't work. Try to be more creative there.
00:39:851 (1,2,1) - A nasty overlap, I'd recommend you to increase the distance snap there.
00:47:817 (3,4) - Try to get a better overlap with the slider in the middle. As you can see it needs some work https://i.imgur.com/NuPEw7D.jpg
00:50:149 (3) - Try to get a better overlap, by having the circle closer to the pixel-perfect middle with the middle of the slider.
00:58:698 (1) - Ugh... I think mapping it to the beat would be more consistent.
01:13:853 (3) - The upper part of the slider isn't pixel-perfect.
01:15:019 (1,2) - Another nasty overlap.
01:14:631 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - Overall, I think this whole part looks messy and might need some work.
01:16:962 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - That's quite a messy slider with some ugly overlaps. Try to make it flow nicer.
01:21:431 (3,3) - A slight overlap that could be easily fixed.
01:23:180 (1,4) - ^
01:23:957 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - This makes it look really messy because it overlaps with the sliders from earlier.
01:24:734 (1) - Rework this slider. The curve at the end is really ugly.
01:26:094 (3,5,1,2) - Has some nasty overlaps which makes it look messy.
01:27:455 (6,7) - CTRL+G
01:28:426 (4,1,4) - Some nasty overlaps
01:30:952 (1) - It really doesn't look nice.

The last part after the kiai has overlaps that work really well.

With some polishing, this could become a really cool mapset. Good luck

Yauxo

1,622 posts

Joined June 2011

Yauxo 2017-12-25T10:29:27+00:00

Blasticide wrote:
Hello

HYPER

00:07:403 (1) - Fix the overlap, it's not pixel-perfect But theyre both on 237/309 for me?:v Reapplied anyway, maybe that fixes it?
00:21:781 (3) - Feels really empty in here. Maybe a long slider could be changed to something else? I prefer going with the long/slow Bells here,
since I also supported the long/slow sounds here 00:07:403 (1) - 00:13:620 (1) - . I feel like it's also a nice transition into the more intense part.
00:36:159 (6,7) - Maybe slightly increase the distance snap so that you can get rid of the small overlap with (2)? By the time this plays, 2 is already completely gone and hitanimations should probably not make it unreadable. Its also a consistency thing that I want to have with 00:29:650 (5,6,7) -
00:45:874 (1) - Why is the part following this circle empty? I know you are trying to follow the background flute but there are other parts in the song where you follow the beat instead. What I intended with this is that the solo Circle should receive all the strength it could possibly get, as everything stops (the scratching, the long trumpet-y/flute-y sound) and supports (big bass thing) this very object. I gave it a 3/4 Slider before, and a short break after that, as theres less/nothing interesting happening after.
I wouldve done the same with 00:51:703 (7,1) - , but there are stronger and important beats after it, so I finished it up in a different combo there. If this comes up multiple times as an actual problem, Ill change it somehow (probably with a triplet after),
but I feel like that'd make it lose its strength and importance.
01:05:304 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - Make this pattern more linear, if you look closely the direction of it is slightly curved. Fixed (still looks kinda off,
even though it should be exactly in the path)
01:21:237 (1,2) - A mild design error, but I don't recommend having slider points end outside of the area of the slider. Fixed

Kiai and the part followed after it appear to be absolutely fine.

Thanks! Pho, please apply Hitsounds so that I can silence Sliderends if needed :<

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Pho

1,785 posts

Joined November 2013

Topic Starter

Pho 2017-12-25T16:53:37+00:00

Blasticide wrote:
Hello

asdf
00:09:540 (4,5,6) - Quite a messy overlap. looks reasonable to me
00:12:649 (7) - Try changing the direction, because that curved slider looks kind of out of place. it's actually intended this way, seperates it better from the next pattern
00:25:278 (1) - The 1/2 beat starts from 00:25:667 (1) - not from where you've started it. Yes but the 1/4 fit well enough in this case.
00:26:056 (1) - That's where you should start the 1/4 doublets from. ^
00:31:107 (2,3) - I feel like CTRL+G would work better here. that'd mess up both rhythm and placement that i intended here
00:31:690 (2) - Looks out of place, perhaps mirror the slider before it? um it should look good enough
00:35:576 (2,5) - A nasty overlap. not nasty at all since it doesn't affect gameplay and i used overlap patterns a lot here
00:38:102 (1) - The ending point is longer than the starting point.
00:39:268 (1,2) - Stuff like this just doesn't work. Try to be more creative there. try to elaborate more on your points, as far as i've tested it and let the map be testplayed, this plays quite fine
00:39:851 (1,2,1) - A nasty overlap, I'd recommend you to increase the distance snap there. the overlaps are intentional, so no change here
00:47:817 (3,4) - Try to get a better overlap with the slider in the middle. As you can see it needs some work https://i.imgur.com/NuPEw7D.jpg
00:50:149 (3) - Try to get a better overlap, by having the circle closer to the pixel-perfect middle with the middle of the slider. should be accurate enough already, it doesnt have to be perfect
00:58:698 (1) - Ugh... I think mapping it to the beat would be more consistent. consistent in which way, sliders should represent the bell sounds well enough
01:13:853 (3) - The upper part of the slider isn't pixel-perfect. it's accurate enough tho
01:15:019 (1,2) - Another nasty overlap. intended as music grows stronger and the overlaps get smaller
01:14:631 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - Overall, I think this whole part looks messy and might need some work. the patterns should be pretty clear for this part, looking messy is no reasonable argument
01:16:962 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - That's quite a messy slider with some ugly overlaps. Try to make it flow nicer. That's a stream with clear smooth curves and direction changes, and again overlap patterns are a major part of this map
01:21:431 (3,3) - A slight overlap that could be easily fixed. ^, it's not even noticeable in gameplay
01:23:180 (1,4) - ^ ^
01:23:957 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - This makes it look really messy because it overlaps with the sliders from earlier. ^
01:24:734 (1) - Rework this slider. The curve at the end is really ugly.
01:26:094 (3,5,1,2) - Has some nasty overlaps which makes it look messy. See my previous points on overlapping.
01:27:455 (6,7) - CTRL+G no, the current movement is fine
01:28:426 (4,1,4) - Some nasty overlaps see above
01:30:952 (1) - It really doesn't look nice. this is pretty subjective, i believe it fits the aesthetics of the map pretty well.

The last part after the kiai has overlaps that work really well.

With some polishing, this could become a really cool mapset. Good luck

thanks for the mod! fixed the non-mentioned stuff

Otosaka-Yu

1,117 posts

Joined August 2013

Otosaka-Yu 2017-12-25T18:58:21+00:00

since camellia
[sahuang]

00:03:128 (4,5,6,7) - 看上去有点乱，试着弄成四边形？
img
00:04:197 - 漏了一个音吧
00:05:751 - 也可以加多一个
00:10:414 -
00:15:369 (2,1) - 这里可以三连
~~00:16:923 (4,5,1,2,3) - emmm这形状有点微妙~~好像之后也有类似的，其实直观感觉不太好
01:48:050 (1) - 这形状不好看qaq如果是直线凸出一块就好了

emm感觉挺有趣的，不过好像还是有一点直观的感觉不是那么好
[chaoz]

00:26:444 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - wtf hell
00:29:942 (6,7,8,9) - 感覺這種地方因爲bass的聲音不一樣可以稍微做一下1/4 jump like this 00:48:983 (1,2,1,2) -
00:36:159 (4,5,6,7) - 同，類似這樣的聲音都可以做一下處理

滑條大師
1 star~ good luck!

Cris-

Beatmap Nominator

551 posts

Joined March 2015

Cris- 2017-12-30T03:50:34+00:00

Hi, NM from my queue

General

drum-sliderslide.wav is unused

Asaiga's BASIC

00:23:724 - Circle?
00:39:657 (2) - Move it down for a better flow
00:52:869 (4,1) - Blanket here? Just like you did it before ( 00:35:771 (2,3) )
01:48:050 - You shouldn't ignore this strong dowbeat
01:54:268 - ^

STANDARD

00:14:786 (3) - This slider looks a bit ugly
00:17:021 (2) - 00:18:575 (5) - 00:20:129 (2) - etc etc. I know you try to follow that sound, but starting a slider on a blue tick is quite complicated for new players, consider starting these sliders on the white ticks
00:25:667 (1,2,3,1) - This section is too together for a normal diff imo
00:52:092 (1,2) - Improve the flow

Underdogs' ADVANCED

00:22:558 (1,4) - Improve the blanket
00:37:908 (6,1) - ^
00:39:657 (6) - Missed NC
00:40:434 (7,8) - Perfect stack?
01:44:942 (1,1) - ^
00:58:309 (5) - NC
01:25:511 (4,5) - This looks a bit confuse, unstack pls

Yauxo's HYPER

00:40:045 (2,1) - Imo these notes are too far to be 1/4, consider reducing the space
01:06:081 - You could consider mapping this section considering that Underdogs did it in the previous difficulty

OVERDRIVE

Why you name it 'asdf'? in the desc this diff has 'OVERDRIVE'
00:11:677 (1) - 00:52:966 (3) - 01:29:398 (1) - 01:37:170 (1) - Offscreen objects

Funny map, good job
GL !

Underdogs

820 posts

Joined July 2014

Underdogs 2017-12-30T09:49:58+00:00

Cris- wrote:
Hi, NM from my queue
Underdogs' ADVANCED
00:22:558 (1,4) - Improve the blanket ok i guess
00:37:908 (6,1) - ^ no
00:39:657 (6) - Missed NC fixed
00:40:434 (7,8) - Perfect stack? ^
01:44:942 (1,1) - ^ intentional
00:58:309 (5) - NC ok
01:25:511 (4,5) - This looks a bit confuse, unstack pls ok

thanks for mod w

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//Storyboard Sound Samples

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Toyosaki Aki

337 posts

Joined February 2014

Toyosaki Aki 2017-12-31T15:11:34+00:00

from my q
short mod xd

top diff

00:58:115 - Add circle on 00:57:532 (4) - 's tail or somewhere?
01:02:001 - Why not map here?
01:17:740 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - How about rotating about -18° that would be nicer to look
The way to follow the unique sound here (01:54:657 (2) - ) by sliders like 01:53:685 (3) - would be fine for consistency

Happy New Nyaa~ GL!

Pho

1,785 posts

Joined November 2013

Topic Starter

Pho 2018-01-01T11:21:46+00:00

Cris-

Cris- wrote:
Hi, NM from my queue

General
drum-sliderslide.wav is unused

STANDARD
00:14:786 (3) - This slider looks a bit ugly
00:17:021 (2) - 00:18:575 (5) - 00:20:129 (2) - etc etc. I know you try to follow that sound, but starting a slider on a blue tick is quite complicated for new players, consider starting these sliders on the white ticks It is, but I tbh the current rhythm patterns feel the most intuitive and fitting to the song. Following the white ticks doesnt work out well with the song in mind. I also got a basic difficulty to cover that up, for normal this type of pattern is challenging but doable.
00:25:667 (1,2,3,1) - This section is too together for a normal diff imo you mean cluttered? yea, might be, but the path should be clear to read, and it's not a long slidertrain either
00:52:092 (1,2) - Improve the flow is intended to not be smooth here

OVERDRIVE
Why you name it 'asdf'? in the desc this diff has 'OVERDRIVE' it's a working title lol
00:11:677 (1) - 00:52:966 (3) - 01:29:398 (1) - 01:37:170 (1) - Offscreen objects
Funny map, good job
GL !

Toyosaki Aki

Toyosaki Aki wrote:
from my q
short mod xd

top diff
00:58:115 - Add circle on 00:57:532 (4) - 's tail or somewhere? got the most prominent beats covered up already, undermap's on purpose
01:02:001 - Why not map here? mainly following the kicks and snares instead of the instruments
01:17:740 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - How about rotating about -18° that would be nicer to look
The way to follow the unique sound here (01:54:657 (2) - ) by sliders like 01:53:685 (3) - would be fine for consistency Simplified it a bit here on purpose so that I could put beats on 01:54:851 (2,3) - these notes. Buzzsliders would make it too unforgiving to play

Happy New Nyaa~ GL!

Thanks for the mods you two

(also happy new year to you too)
fixed all the non-commented stuff!

WORSTPOLACKEU

511 posts

Joined May 2013

WORSTPOLACKEU 2018-01-01T15:33:09+00:00

Just small thing in the top diff

SPOILER

00:10 WORSTPOLACKEU: 01:38:724 (1,2) -
00:11 WORSTPOLACKEU: always misreading because the spacing does not support the rhythm gap
00:17 Pho: oh, i just assumed it'd be easy to read the gap because i don't use such high-spaced sharp movements elsewhere
00:17 Pho: 'cept for the 1-2 parts that is
00:17 WORSTPOLACKEU: it is very difficult to be honest
00:17 WORSTPOLACKEU: I know it is there after playing
00:17 WORSTPOLACKEU: but I still misread because of the general speed in the map
00:19 Pho: hmm ok, i'll see what i can do
00:19 WORSTPOLACKEU: I'd recommend stacking
00:19 WORSTPOLACKEU: and putting the next slider underneath somehow
00:19 WORSTPOLACKEU: to not destroy your current aesthetics
00:22 Pho: that doesnt really work for me because it takes away too much momentum
00:22 Pho: and i never used it in the kiai before
00:23 WORSTPOLACKEU: actually when you are playing
00:23 WORSTPOLACKEU: and you have to make a small movement after a break, it loses more momentum than stopping for a moment
00:24 WORSTPOLACKEU: just speaking from experience when I play maps
00:24 WORSTPOLACKEU: small movements make you change the speed drastically and that is very straining to your aim and makes it very uncomfortable, stopping entirely works well
00:26 WORSTPOLACKEU: I think of it like lifting your hand for a moment and then continuing the flow and speed
00:26 WORSTPOLACKEU: but having to move it to another place in a much slower pace and continuing with the previous speed is not comfortable
00:28 Pho: i know what you mean but uhm i can't see how this applies to my map
00:28 Pho: either way i figured sth out for that part already
00:28 WORSTPOLACKEU: ah alrighty
00:29 WORSTPOLACKEU: it should apply to every map mostly though hh
00:29 Pho: thanks for the input btw
00:29 WORSTPOLACKEU: but map cool GL
00:29 WORSTPOLACKEU: enjoyed
00:29 Pho: thanks lol

Sandwich

65 posts

Joined December 2015

Sandwich 2018-01-02T01:43:52+00:00

hello, short mod~

Top Diff

00:11:677 (1) - feels pretty weird being just a slider, i would make it at least a reverse slider instead
00:12:455 (5,6,7) - this feels kind of weak, i would place it a bit further away i think
00:19:644 (2,3,4) - comes kind of surprising after the doubles, but maybe its just me
00:21:587 (1,2,3,4,5) - i know what you did there, but it feels really weird to play
00:22:364 (6) - why not place a circle here?
00:33:828 (4) - and why not a slider here? would really suit with 00:34:022 (1) - imo
00:59:281 (1) - this one feels a bit too weak
01:05:013 (3) - i feel like this circle isn't enough, why not make it like 01:01:515 (1,2) - ?
you have something here 01:44:942 (2) - and here 01:57:960 (1) - , so why not put something at 00:27:221 (3) - , maybe a reverse slider like at 01:44:942 (2) -

Really good map, flows really nice

gl

Yauxo

1,622 posts

Joined June 2011

Yauxo 2018-01-02T19:27:05+00:00

Cris- wrote:
Yauxo's HYPER
00:40:045 (2,1) - Imo these notes are too far to be 1/4, consider reducing the space Since this is coming from Kicksliders, I wouldnt think that this is too far away. It even gets "worse" in the Kiai, so this one should be fine.
01:06:081 - You could consider mapping this section considering that Underdogs did it in the previous difficulty Im considering to map something before the Spinner, but Im unsure where a start would actually fit in (as it weirdly fades in mid-measure). I want to have a break here though, breaks dont hurt.

Thanks

lazygirl

506 posts

Joined February 2016

lazygirl 2018-01-02T22:19:19+00:00

heyho quick nm for fun

[Yauxo's HYPER]

00:06:528 - feels weird not having anything here, some kind of filler slider would be nice.
00:07:403 (1) - the starting shape is a little sloppy, should adjust it to blanket better.
00:26:056 (3,4) - might be fitting to make this a repeat.
00:55:978 (3,1) - stacking is offset.

cool diff, mainly the drops are nice. If you got the will to do it, I suggest revising your alignments, some are a little sloppy. 01:38:335 (1,2,3,4,5) - e.g. (just a random example), doesn't have the same tilt on the slider as the stream. Minor stuff but worth fixing if you want the diff to be more polished.

[sahuang's EXHAUST]

00:09:249 - 00:15:466 - skipping a few notes that'd be nice if mapped
00:19:838 (4,4) - not sure why you switch to sliders here, I think keeping the previous patterns was fine. And if you want to put sliders, you should make sure flow on this stream 00:19:838 (4,5,1,2,3) - is more consistent with previous patterns, since it has the same melody.
00:41:890 (6,1) - Might want to acknowledge this by doing an angle on 6 as https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9916038 something along these lines. Also, ignoring a strong sound on 1's tail isn't the best thing imo. 00:48:206 (1) -
00:43:057 (2,3,4,5,6,1) - 1 doesn't transition well from the stream's curve, should make it curve ligther and rotate inwards.
00:49:566 (5,6,1,2,3) - why not do the same as 00:18:478 (4,5,1,2,3) - would fit nicely. I think linear constant spacing is too boring for this.
01:18:128 (1,2,3,4,1) - this jump is enormous and flows quite bad, don't think it's a good idea. 01:18:517 (1) - also this slider is boring and unappealing, you should replace it with something fancier that actually does stand out, or map the rhythms you're skipping over.
01:23:957 (1,2,3,4) - this is a 2+2 not a 4 one. Should be 2 kicksliders.

Cool map, cool ideas, could use more polishing and better consistency.

[Chaoz's GRAVITY]

Have nothing to say except 01:22:111 (3,4) - why no 4 stream (as well as all following of the same pattern). This diff is dope af.

Not gonna mod last diff, it's a bit wild :')

GL for rank! Nice set ^^

_Meep_

1,707 posts

Joined April 2014

_Meep_ 2018-01-03T11:19:02+00:00

my bad mod

asaiga

00:59:864 (4,1) - maybe make it a reverse slider? I found this a bit weird since players wouldnt expect 4 to be clickable. All the notes in this small section are mapped to a certain sound, yet that one is the only one that doesn't seem to have any sound to it. Some examples to make it simpler for newbies:
00:58:309 - when seen from this timestamp,

01:33:284 (4) - probs change this into a single note? players need rest man ;c
also just a bit from me, maybe you would need some more pauses in the kiai, since theres an abundance of it in the earlier parts of the song and none in the chorus at all, theres an imbalance in difficulty throughout the map imo.
well then again the kiai is pretty short so it may just be me ;/

standard

00:52:092 - change rhythm to this? the 2 tick gap feels odd and i dont think players would be able to play this comfortably.

00:55:298 (3,4,5) - this feels really odd imo. I know this is the nature of the song, but i recommend you stick with the 1/2 notes most of the time since it's much easier for the players to read. from here 00:55:201 - , maybe change the rhythm to:

00:57:532 (2) - as I said earlier, the gaps may feel odd for the players, so I think putting less guesswork for the player would be best, so maybe make this a reverse? 00:58:309 (3) - this note could also be a 3/4 reverse too, it fits really well, although the next notes may suffer since they'd all be clustered tgt.

01:01:515 - same thing as above, dont need to reply if u dont wanna

01:03:556 - instead of putting a triple maybe just putting a note here so that you're not completely ignoring the kicks? if you do that, then i suggest you replace 01:02:973 (1) - with a 1/1 slider so the players have an easier time figuring out the rhythm.

01:52:228 (7) - why is this not a 3/4 though? the 1/2 makes the pause seem really abrupt and odd

suck at modding normals, im sorry

understory

00:12:649 (4,1) - cuz im slightly ocd can u make this aligned with each other
00:26:833 (4) - I dont think you need tnat extra 1 more repeat at the end. The big white tick doesn thave any drum on it.
01:00:252 (1,2,3) - not sure if players will be confused by this since all the other slider+note+slider patterns you've done in this map earlier were all overlapped, unlike this one.
01:05:596 (1,1) - nice nc spam xd
01:25:706 (5,6,1) - may be a bit confusing
01:26:969 (4) - i dont see the reason for this note,since theres no more drums after 123. 01:39:404 (4) - same for this.
01:29:786 (1) - is this nc on purpose or?

yauxo

00:21:587 (1,1,1) - can u explain to me why is there the NC spam here?
01:30:369 - looking at it from here, i think this is a better way to place the kicksliders

01:36:392 - this as well,

ok i cant mod anything above hyper because i wont be able to properly testplay them,

note that its all my opinon so dont take em so seriously xdxd

Chaoslitz

Elite Mapper / Elite Storyboarder

2,307 posts

Joined November 2013

Chaoslitz 2018-01-03T17:00:21+00:00

Suzuki_1112 wrote:
[chaoz]
00:26:444 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - wtf hell nonono 不hell
00:29:942 (6,7,8,9) - 感覺這種地方因爲bass的聲音不一樣可以稍微做一下1/4 jump like this 00:48:983 (1,2,1,2) -
00:36:159 (4,5,6,7) - 同，類似這樣的聲音都可以做一下處理這個, 懶了, 前面沒想到要這麼做
滑條大師
1 star~ good luck!

lazyboy007 wrote:
[Chaoz's GRAVITY]

Have nothing to say except 01:22:111 (3,4) - why no 4 stream (as well as all following of the same pattern). This diff is dope af.

I have no idea what you are talking about

thanks

lazygirl

506 posts

Joined February 2016

lazygirl 2018-01-03T19:35:19+00:00

Chaoslitz wrote:
lazyboy007 wrote:
[Chaoz's GRAVITY]

Have nothing to say except 01:22:111 (3,4) - why no 4 stream (as well as all following of the same pattern). This diff is dope af.
[color=#FF0000]
I have no idea what you are talking about[/color]

thanks

I meant that imo a stream of 4 notes would fit better than that kickslider + circle you use throughout the kiai ^^ Sorry for being unclear

iYiyo

1,107 posts

Joined January 2014

iYiyo 2018-01-04T03:58:57+00:00

hallo, wie gehts? gut und dir? danke danke

m4m with chaoz

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background image is 1,28MB, consider reducing it so you can save 1MB~

[asdf]
00:04:683 (7,8,1) - the distance you're using here is pretty unbalanced, you have first x3,0 and then x0,78 for the same time gap. However, imo, 00:05:460 - is way more intense, therefore I feel like it may confuse a lot of players considering this is a high bpm song (I got confused tbh). What I would recommend is maybe to rotate 00:04:197 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - so 00:04:683 (7) - is closer to 00:05:265 (8) - .
00:55:881 (5,6) - this sudden mini jump with 00:55:492 (3,4,5) - this blue-ticks-rhythm feels a bit harder than it should be for this caaaalmer section. Highly recommend you to stack 00:55:881 (5,6) - both on 5.
01:20:460 (1,1) - I think it could be better if you make them overlap both end and start while having similar curve shape but with different SV. another idea i guess could be to stack like this: https://puu.sh/yTOn2/792fbf47c8.jpg Right now the current overlap looks a bit messy if compared to the rest of your mapping on this diff so yeah, mainly because of that.
01:32:603 (4) - I feel like this should have a NC, like the sliders are totally different from 01:31:535 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - this pattern, what do you think?
cool af

[Chaoz's GRAVITY]
00:05:265 (1) - silence slidertail aswell?
00:52:869 (1) - consdering the high ar and bpm, I really got confused while playing this stack, like i couldn't recognize it tbh. Since it's a stron beat, I'd recommend to move it like https://puu.sh/yTPcK/82e2a78187.jpg so it matches other similar rhythms in this section.
01:22:888 (3,4) - tbh this overlap feels out of place if we consider 01:22:111 (3,4) - 01:23:180 (1,2) - etc (actually looking at your kiai, it might be a missclick :d)
pretty damn cool diff. I can just say that maybe it'd be better if you copy all the combo color hex of top diff, because right now you have things like 00:56:755 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - (https://puu.sh/yTPtx/c6a2208e5f.jpg) and 01:01:710 (1,2,3,1) - (https://puu.sh/yTPuz/988337fe6c.jpg) that with transparent skin might be difficult to recognize the NC.

[sahuang's EXHAUST]
00:04:197 - 00:05:363 - 00:10:414 - why you skiping that strong violin sound? it really feels very weird not having them at all. Maybe you wanted to emphasize something, or make it a bit special because of the technical mapping, but consdering this is a +5sr map, i don't think it's that good to undermap this section, even if it's the intro.
00:40:822 (1,2) - while playing this jump it really stand out from all the other sections tbh and not because it's the end of the kiai it means this huge jump is well supported. (imo 01:21:626 - should also be kiai, therefore it has more emphasized section, but still you can't see jumps like this here at all). For this I'd highly highly recommend to reduce the jump a bit, maybe from x6,25 to x4.2~~?
similar thing about the NC i mentioned on chaoz's - 01:05:596 (1,2,1,2) - (https://puu.sh/yTPFP/c666b37d87.jpg) that was pretty damn confusing tbh

Tbh all I could say is that the diffs are very well mapped and structured, was really hard to find something.

I hope my mod could help out a bit. GL!

aufwiedersehen

Underdogs

820 posts

Joined July 2014

Underdogs 2018-01-04T06:30:38+00:00

_Meep_ wrote:
my bad mod

understory
00:12:649 (4,1) - cuz im slightly ocd can u make this aligned with each other ok
00:26:833 (4) - I dont think you need tnat extra 1 more repeat at the end. The big white tick doesn thave any drum on it. since the section is ending. it felt awkward rhythm-wise to leave the downbeat unmapped (clickable or non-clickable)
01:00:252 (1,2,3) - not sure if players will be confused by this since all the other slider+note+slider patterns you've done in this map earlier were all overlapped, unlike this one. Since this is a low bpm (and the fact I did the same at 01:23:180 (1,2,3) - and 01:29:398 (1,2,1) - proves that I'm using it as a pattern, which reflects the difficulty as a Hard diff
01:05:596 (1,1) - nice nc spam xd xd
01:25:706 (5,6,1) - may be a bit confusing In general, the players don't have to move their cursor, since the repeats do their job. So I don't think it's that confusing
01:26:969 (4) - i dont see the reason for this note,since theres no more drums after 123. 01:39:404 (4) - same for this. there's a bell(?)
on the 3/4 so I gotta map that one
01:29:786 (1) - is this nc on purpose or? no lol. fixed

note that its all my opinon so dont take em so seriously xdxd

understandable have a nice day

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