This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Monday, August 21, 2017 at 4:28:59 PM

Artist: Feint
Title: Fall Away
Tags: dnb drum and bass ep marathon cloudhead records iifrostii
BPM: 87
Filesize: 8723kb
Play Time: 05:02
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Download: Feint - Fall Away
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what the fuck mrekk????????????????????????

bg source: https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/67380698

Nice work!

nice map

from q

maybe get silent slider slide?

00:39:309 (1,2) - blanket better?

00:41:723 (3,1) - ^

i dont really have any other problems with the map lol, im noob modder anywayas

really nice work, i would bubble if i were bn lLOl

no kds unless this was actually helpful thanks lol

Kujinn wrote:

Nice work! thank you!

CraEZy wrote:

nice map

from q

maybe get silent slider slide? ill think about it, if that silences the slider ticks it might work for the calm parts.

00:39:309 (1,2) - blanket better? seems fine

00:41:723 (3,1) - ^ okay

i dont really have any other problems with the map lol, im noob modder anywayas

really nice work, i would bubble if i were bn lLOl thanks

no kds unless this was actually helpful thanks lol dont worry, kd as long as you contribute.

thanks for modding!

Q

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01:17:930 (1,2) - too far seeing, can be hard to read
01:34:137 (3,2,2,2) - stack can be good imo.
02:24:826 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - DS should be bigger than 02:24:137 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) -
04:11:033 (1,2,1,2) - looks too big DS imo

gL

Neoskylove wrote:

Q

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01:17:930 (1,2) - too far seeing, can be hard to read moved
01:34:137 (3,2,2,2) - stack can be good imo. ? is stacked already
02:24:826 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - DS should be bigger than 02:24:137 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - disagree
04:11:033 (1,2,1,2) - looks too big DS small nerf

gL ty

thanks for modding

From my modding queue

I want to try something new with this mod - namely formatting - hopefully I can make this very clear and aesthetically pleasing. Let's begin.

You queued for a Full NM

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From my queue, i usually don't do 5min song but i love Feint <3

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00:21:378 (2) - angle this up a little maybe so it matches the curve on 00:19:999 (1) - imo it looks and flows better
01:10:171 (3) - move down a little to form straight line with 01:10:516 (4,5) -
02:11:722 (1,2,3,4,5) - same as above, try to form straight line
02:19:998 (1,2,3) - maybe try to have 02:19:998 (1) - in the center of 02:20:688 (2,3) -
02:33:447 (2,1) - i would just stack to avoid the half-overlap that looks kinda inconsistent
02:38:964 (2,1) - blanket might be a little off (or im blind) i moved it 1 unit own and to the right using grid size 4 and it looked better
02:42:067 (1,2) - if your trying to make parallel, its off by 1 degrees CCW
03:27:584 (1,2) - see first mod
03:30:343 (1,2) - ^
03:53:014 (8,1) - check DS
I really like your change in mapping style for the last Kiai time
04:47:581 (1,2) - see first mod
04:51:115 (1) - your spinning in to silence here

hi

[Extra]

00:16:551 (3,4) - this be stacked like here 00:19:309 (2,3) - and 00:22:068 (3,4) - because all those 3 have the same emphasis
00:25:516 (1) - this should have a higher spacing so player will notice the new section better
01:09:309 (1,2) - 2 should have a lower spacing it's a relativ quite sound and the emphasis on 1 would be even more noticeable

will continue later don't give me kds yet

Mombei wrote:

From my modding queue

I want to try something new with this mod - namely formatting - hopefully I can make this very clear and aesthetically pleasing. Let's begin. Thank you.

You queued for a Full NM

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1. 00:00:689 (1,2,3) - I believe it would be a nice touch to gently ramp up the volume (e.g. 10%/15%/20%), since the song does that. Done.
   
2. 00:02:757 (1) - You could further expand on the theme of the first three objects by remapping this bit like this. In order to accomplish that just move (current) 1's greenlines over to (current) 2 and make another greenline that keep x2 SV but changes the volume to 30% (like the current greenline currently does). I believe this would add a layer of depth to your map. Adjust 00:03:447 (3) - 's position slightly, of course. Although this is a nice suggestion, I don’t think I should do this because the next 2 sliders after the first 3 are different sounds, so I think they should stand out a bit.
   
3. 00:17:240 (1,2,3) - This pattern isn't in line with the next two instances (00:19:999 (1,2,3,4) - 00:22:757 (1,2,3,4) - ) in that it misses a slider in the gap between the reverse and the hitcircles. Since the song is identical throughout this bit, you should either add another slider, or remove the other two. Either way will be fine, just as long as you're consistent. The missing slider that is present in the next two patterns is mapped to the EE sound you hear in the background. I think it would feel off if I didn’t map them, or if I made all the patterns the same rhythm.
   
4. 00:36:205 (4) - I was looking through the map the other day and I noticed that since then you added some curve to a lot of sliders that were just straight. Maybe this is an oversight? Anyhow, this would look and play slightly better if you tilted it downward a little. Oversight, fixed.
   
5. 00:38:619 (2,3) - 00:39:998 (2,3) - etc. from this point onwards it seems you haven't changed the tilt yet. As little as 5 degrees of tilt will make them look a lot better. It fits with the overall aesthetic of the map, an idea of contemporary/modern structure. I’ll curve them instead, since the first 2 sliders are curved.
   
6. 00:58:619 - I noticed that later in the map you hs the build-up differently. Again, you should be consistent with this kind of thing. Either hs all buildups with normal sampleset and additions, or use your custom hs (AFTER you fix them - read below!) Now they should use all the same hitsounds.
   
7. 01:06:722 (4) - This single circle feels a bit random and it doesn't seem to have any real criteria behind its placement. I suggest you move it so that it makes a triangle shape with 01:05:516 (1,3) - you can do that easily by copy-pasting 1-3, rotating by 60 degrees (shortcut Ctrl+Shift+R) and overlapping with the original 1-3. This arrangement gives the map an organized look and places 4 closer to the stream so that it's safer to hit for players. If I didn't misunderstand, this makes the 3-4 jump harder than the 4-1 jump, when I think they should be around the same. I will just stack 4 under 01:05:860 (3). Also, the pattern flows the same way, so I don’t think it is totally random.
   
8. 01:09:653 - I think your custom hitsound sets are fundamentally flawed. On bits like 01:11:033 (1) - 01:11:722 (4) - you can hear how the hitwhistle changes sample set from normal to soft, and that is, to say the least, jarring. I came up with a very simple fix - all you have to do is move you custom soft-hitclap to normal-hitfinish. Then, for all instances of this specific combination of hitsounds, arrange Samplesets and Additions like so, and of course change claps to finishes. This way you can keep normal hitwhistle throughout the entire thing while your soft sampleset + custom hs combo doesn't change either. Yeah I wasn’t using the default skin when I was mapping this (which isn’t a good thing) so I did not notice. This took a lot of time, and I think I did it just a bit differently. But hopefully everything should be consistent. Fixed (hopefully).
   
9. 01:10:171 (3) - 01:12:929 (3) - 01:15:688 (3) - etc. - I believe all of these don't quite follow the drumline going on in the song. If you keep placement exactly the same and rearrange those sliders this way, you'll be able to hs the sliderhead (you should probably make this change afte fixing the custom hitsounds issue first, so that you won't have to hitsound these twice. You should avoid unnecessary work like that. Patterns play out essentially the same and the map is more relevant to the song. Fix any hitcircles after the sliders any way you see fit, though I doubt much tweaking will be needed. Hmm, I want to generally follow the melody in these sections. The drums to me are just a compliment, but I might consider this.
   
10. 01:31:722 - I think this section is very good. I love it a lot. I can only give you one piece of advice, for aesthetic composition - I think it's pretty lame that when patterns repeat, object placement perfectly loops. I find the concept the everything moves down to the right very cool and aesthetically pleasing - you should capitalize on it as much as you can. All you have to do is take the second instance of patterns you copy-paste (i.e. 01:34:481 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - 01:37:240 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - 01:39:998 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - ) and move them down to the right, exactly as much as they would've moved if they were directly stacked under the previous pattern. Despite that, it does make sense that the position would reset when the song loops itself, so it is up to your interpretation. In my opinion, I think the aesthetic parts here seem fine to me, and I think the way the objects are placed are pretty clean already. I find it already kinda hard to notice the looping. But anyway, I want to make everything flow rather smoothly in this section, and I actually found this kinda hard to do with such a concept, because changing direction is really tedious here. That’s why I don’t really want to modify this part of the song unless it’s actually fundamentally flawed, which it hopefully isn’t.
    
11. 02:25:516 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - The concept you're using isn't inherently wrong - it can be cool to express closer sounds with higher spacing and sounds further apart with lower spacing - but your execution here is poor.02:26:033 (3,1) - is visually identical to 02:26:464 (2,3) - which, according to this pattern's concept, should be a 1/2 gap, but it's not. I think the safest thing you can do is arrange 3 so that it's a triangle with 02:26:205 (1,2) - it's the best looking way to have the spacing be even. Alright so what I did was I made them have high spacing, so I think now it should be fine.
    
12. 02:26:895 - I believe this bit onwards should use your custom HS. (again, after you fix it) What the hell, what happened to the hitsounds here. Fixed and applied.
    
13. 02:48:964 - The same concept as the last instance of this section applies here aswell. (01:31:722 - ) Refer above.
    
14. 03:24:826 (4,5) - This, too, is just like the other instance of this issue. (00:17:240 (1,2,3) - ) Refer above.
    
15. 03:53:790 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - This bit follows conventional spacing. I think you should either use conventional spacing in both instances of this (the other one being 02:25:516 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - ) or use your concept of inverted spacing on both of them. Point being, you shouldn't use both. Idk what conventional or inverted spacing means ;; but I still applied the same concept here.
    
16. 04:17:237 - Again (01:31:722 - 02:48:964 - ). Refer above.
    
17. 04:42:064 (4,5,6) - Again (00:17:240 (1,2,3) - 03:24:826 (4,5) - ). Refer above.
    
18. 04:50:339 (1) - I think you're better off removing NC here. This NC makes sense in my opinion.
    
19. 05:02:064 - This is where the spinner should end, since it's where all sound completely stops. Also, I think it's not very good to just mute the spinner. It would be a nice touch to make the volume decrease each bar from 30% to 5% as the song fades out (I'd suggest 5% less volume each bar/big white tick). Fixed.
    
    

    That's all. Thanks for using my queue!

Good mod, thanks!

YashaPlay wrote:

Hello from my modding queue!

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Very nice. Very. Thanks!

Enkrypton wrote:

From my queue, i usually don't do 5min song but i love Feint <3

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00:21:378 (2) - angle this up a little maybe so it matches the curve on 00:19:999 (1) - imo it looks and flows better I keep this.
01:10:171 (3) - move down a little to form straight line with 01:10:516 (4,5) - Sure.
02:11:722 (1,2,3,4,5) - same as above, try to form straight line I do not know how to apply it here/what you mean ;;
02:19:998 (1,2,3) - maybe try to have 02:19:998 (1) - in the center of 02:20:688 (2,3) - Sure.
02:33:447 (2,1) - i would just stack to avoid the half-overlap that looks kinda inconsistent Fixed.
02:38:964 (2,1) - blanket might be a little off (or im blind) i moved it 1 unit own and to the right using grid size 4 and it looked better I just adjusted the curve, but I don't think there was a big difference.
02:42:067 (1,2) - if your trying to make parallel, its off by 1 degrees CCW Fixed.
03:27:584 (1,2) - see first mod I keep this.
03:30:343 (1,2) - ^ I rotated the slider.
03:53:014 (8,1) - check DS This is fine now.
I really like your change in mapping style for the last Kiai time Thanks!
04:47:581 (1,2) - see first mod I keep this.
04:51:115 (1) - your spinning in to silence here There is sound.

Thanks for the mod!

NM from my Queue


GL

LeQuack wrote:

NM from my Queue

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1. 00:32:412 (1) - The Emphasis of this NC is way less when compared to the NC's beforehand, i would suggest either increasing the DS or changing the direction of the slider so it is better emphasized This note is not meant to be emphasized (if it is I don't see how), so I am not sure what you mean.
   
2. 01:00:688 (3,4,5) - I think this would go off the screen during gameplay Moved it.
   
3. 01:08:274 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,1) - I think a spinner would be more suitable because the sound of the drum is barely audible at this time The drums aren't exactly gone, they are just really high pitched, and I think that adds to the intensity. Even if there aren't drums there's still a 1/4 in the background. But anyway, I think a spinner would kill the intensity for here, because you just suddenly stop clicking and its a short spinner.
   
4. 02:04:826 - Y do all the sliders here not end on the blue tick like at the start, right now you are missing one of the most important sounds in this section This section repeats three times. The first time there aren't claps, so mapped only to melody (pretty obvious). Second time there are claps, which is a new sound, so to make a difference, I mapped to claps while taking account of the melody (stacks). To switch it up a bit, the third time I mapped to melody while taking account of the claps (sliderheads follow claps). In my opinion, this section is not significant enough to be mapped the same. If this is bad enough then I will just change it, but I think variety is consistent here.
   
5. 02:43:102 (1) - This isn't stacked properly on 02:42:412 (2) - Fixed.
   
6. 03:28:964 (2) - Not necessary slider imo, this part is meant to be not that dense so i think you should only follow the main sounds This slider follows a sound I think is significant enough to map.

GL

thanks for the mod!

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02:04:826 (1) - Put a circle in the end of slider, because this White tick is a strong song, and must be clicked (and this section don't is calm)
02:06:205 (1) - same
02:07:584 (1) - same
02:08:964 (1) - same
02:10:343 (1) - same
02:11:722 (1) - ^
02:13:102 (1) - ^
02:14:481 (1) - ^
03:02:757 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - its a suggestion, decrease the spacing for a better representation of the song,because this sound is more low
04:25:512 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - same ^ but keeping this 04:26:547 (1,2) -

Sminebrasil wrote:

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02:04:826 (1) - Put a circle in the end of slider, because this White tick is a strong song, and must be clicked (and this section don't is calm) This section is calm and this section both takes in the melody and claps for account, mainly the claps. The reason there is a slider is to vary things and to follow the melody too. So, I do not think this needs to be clicked. Okay.
02:06:205 (1) - same ^
02:07:584 (1) - same ^
02:08:964 (1) - same ^
02:10:343 (1) - same ^
02:11:722 (1) - ^ ^
02:13:102 (1) - ^ ^
02:14:481 (1) - ^ ^
03:02:757 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - its a suggestion, decrease the spacing for a better representation of the song,because this sound is more low The spacing is already decreased. Also, there is a clear difference between low spacing version of this pattern and high spacing version of this pattern.
04:25:512 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - same ^ but keeping this 04:26:547 (1,2) - This part is intense and it is a buildup, so spacing goes up.

thanks for the mod anyway.

from my q

04:51:115 (1) - I know that you're stretching this spinner to go over 5 minutes, but this spinner feels way too long. There's barely any audio for half of that spinner

00:03:447 (1) - Need to fix this slider here, it's noticeable in gameplay: https://i.gyazo.com/217e26a717586a7efcb ... f57584.jpg

00:26:205 (3,4,1) - poor flow

00:35:171 - You should alternate the user between a 3/4 repeating slider and a 3/4 slider + a circle. For example, 00:39:309 (1) - should be Slider+circle, 00:43:447 (1) - should be repeating, and 00:46:205 (1) - should be repeating.

00:58:619 (1,2) - No blankets?

01:17:929 (1,2) - blanket

01:14:653 (5,1) - can blanket better

01:24:826 (1,2) - etc etc fix duh blankets yo, not gonna list anymore.

01:31:722 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - I don't think you need to NC every other note in this section. Mappers usually do this to distinguish the 1-2 pair sounds (Mostly used in Drum-Clap pairs, Kneesocks pp jump is a classic example). Some people may argue it helps with reading as well. However in this case, they are already stacked, so NCing won't really help.

01:42:757 (1) - this slider really stands out, being the only slider in this whole section.

Also speed up the SV on the kiais, it just feels underwhelming for me atm.

Speaking of SV on kiais, why is the SV on the first kiai different from the 2nd kiai?

Not sure why you changed the bpm on the 3rd kiai, it should still be 174 bpm since there is some triples that you mapped in there. In fact, I'm not even sure why the bpm changes throughout the whole song.

02:25:516 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - Too big of spacing, it makes the kiai right after seem underwhelming.

sorry i have to mention again, 03:15:860 (5,1) - this blanket doens't look pretty. Do something like this: https://i.gyazo.com/b5cceb2dd154137b180 ... f9f502.jpg

04:28:271 (1) - should ctrl+g so it could continue the clockwise flow that the jumps before had provided.

dats it gl

Ohwow wrote:

from my q

04:51:115 (1) - I know that you're stretching this spinner to go over 5 minutes, but this spinner feels way too long. There's barely any audio for half of that spinner There's still some audio, but I'll make audio louder.

00:03:447 (1) - Need to fix this slider here, it's noticeable in gameplay: https://i.gyazo.com/217e26a717586a7efcb ... f57584.jpg Skin had sliderends for me, now fixed.

00:26:205 (3,4,1) - poor flow Didn't feel anything but I could see why - fixed

00:35:171 - You should alternate the user between a 3/4 repeating slider and a 3/4 slider + a circle. For example, 00:39:309 (1) - should be Slider+circle, 00:43:447 (1) - should be repeating, and 00:46:205 (1) - should be repeating. I just made 00:36:550 (1) - repeating.

00:58:619 (1,2) - No blankets? It's fine lol, if it helps I made them a bit more curved.

01:17:929 (1,2) - blanket Fixed

01:14:653 (5,1) - can blanket better Fixed

01:24:826 (1,2) - etc etc fix duh blankets yo, not gonna list anymore. Ok ok

01:31:722 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - I don't think you need to NC every other note in this section. Mappers usually do this to distinguish the 1-2 pair sounds (Mostly used in Drum-Clap pairs, Kneesocks pp jump is a classic example). Some people may argue it helps with reading as well. However in this case, they are already stacked, so NCing won't really help. I just think 1-2 NC makes a lot of sense here for this section. The sound keeps repeating itself, and when different sounds come in (11 notes later), the back and forth and NC usage break and change.
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01:42:757 (1) - this slider really stands out, being the only slider in this whole section. It is mapped to finish in the background and I want to give players a break.

Also speed up the SV on the kiais, it just feels underwhelming for me atm. Fine for me.

Speaking of SV on kiais, why is the SV on the first kiai different from the 2nd kiai? Second kiai is a bit more melodic than first kiai, it's missing the intensity the first kiai has. So, I handled this by making the second kiai have lower SV.

Not sure why you changed the bpm on the 3rd kiai, it should still be 174 bpm since there is some triples that you mapped in there. In fact, I'm not even sure why the bpm changes throughout the whole song. Well, the kick-snare happens half as often, so I think this part might be 87 bpm. Beatport says it is 87 bpm and some parts fit to be 87bpm, like the calm parts. I think the timing right now is a bit controversial and more up to interpretation, but we will see.

02:25:516 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - Too big of spacing, it makes the kiai right after seem underwhelming. They are big because they are on blue ticks. Players might get confused if the spacing was smaller, since they would look 1/2.

sorry i have to mention again, 03:15:860 (5,1) - this blanket doens't look pretty. Do something like this: https://i.gyazo.com/b5cceb2dd154137b180 ... f9f502.jpg Tried something a bit different but fixed.

04:28:271 (1) - should ctrl+g so it could continue the clockwise flow that the jumps before had provided. You're right.

dats it gl

Thanks for the mod!

Queue:

00:56:895 (3,4) - this could be blanketed better.

01:31:722 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,1,2,3,4) - In all the parts like this, This is so repetitive, it's just the same 10 notes repeated 10 times, I think you could make this more interesting by mapping things like the drums.

01:31:722 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - Like for this section, over just 1/2 circle spam, you can do something like
01:56:550 (1,2,3) - There's like, no sound to justify having objects here. I think you should just leave it blank.

02:26:895 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6) - This kiai, is these same objects repeated a few times, you need to add variety in your mapping to make it interesting.

03:55:169 (1,2,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2) - ^ Really the same thing here, You need to map the music in different ways so the map isn't so repetitive.

Hi, from my modding queue.


Good Luck ~