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Moso Calibration - Sakurairo Diary [Taiko]

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Nardoxyribonucleic
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 2017年6月18日 at 14:09:29

Artist: Moso Calibration
Title: Sakurairo Diary
Source: 冴えない彼女の育てかた♭
Tags: Taiko Saenai Heroine no Sodatekata Flat Saekano Ending TV Size wmfchris
BPM: 153
Filesize: 3279kb
Play Time: 01:28
Difficulties Available:
  1. Futsuu (2.09 stars, 221 notes)
  2. Kantan (1.45 stars, 124 notes)
  3. Muzukashii (2.61 stars, 331 notes)
  4. Oni (3.76 stars, 437 notes)
  5. Wmf's Muzukashii (2.49 stars, 309 notes)
Download: Moso Calibration - Sakurairo Diary
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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#35 - Taiko mapset
BG - 100%
Kantan - 100%
Futsuu - 100%
Wmf's Muzukashii - 100% (by wmfchris)
Muzukashii - 100%
Oni - 100%
wmfchris
Waifu @Daiba, Tokyo

Charlotte
hi via game-in chat

[ about]
  1. d is don note
  2. k is kat note
  3. D is big don note
  4. K is big kat note
[ Kantan]


  • 00:32:687 - If remove this notes,you can make slowly flow.

    00:42:490 - 00:58:177 - I think 2/1 + 1/1 pattern is long.so 00:48:373 - & 00:49:549 - del
[ Futsuu]


  • 00:49:941 - You can add d.bcz,00:49:353 (115,116) - haven't finisher,so I think dd d K is good flow.
[ Wmf's Muzukashii]


  • 00:00:334 - del.I think k dk ddk is more good slow

    00:02:294 - change to slider or notes.because,have drum roll sound.so spinner < slider

    00:05:039 - del & 00:04:647 - change to k? I think 1/2 pattern is long.still calm part,so I prefer short pattern.

    00:04:647 - change to k.dkdd < dkkd

    00:07:981 - hmm...I think no need this spinner.bcz,this part have strong finisher.

    00:23:471 - dkdkkd is more fit?

    00:28:177 - add kat? follow the vocal.

    00:39:549 (98) - still k sound?

    00:44:059 - kkddk? I think more clean pattern

    00:45:236 - kkddkdk? ^

    00:47:785 - change to d?

    00:49:941 - 00:51:314 - I feel this part spacing is little strange.so add some notes?

    00:56:020 - kkddkdk?

    00:58:177 - add d & 00:58:373 - kddkd & 00:59:353 - remove? I think more fit.

    01:05:236 (191,192) - change to k.bcz,high pitch.

    01:08:569 - kkddkdk or kkdkdkk.If you pick kkdkdkk,01:10:530 - kdkdd is good? bcz,swap pattern.

    01:18:765 - remove.I think notes is good.

    01:23:079 - You can remove this notes. I prefer dkkkkkd < d kkkd

    * kiai time is haven't 1/4 pattern.but,1/2 pattern is long.so If you think little hard,you can remove some notes.
[ Muzukashii]


  • 00:23:667 - I think kdkkd (dkddk swap pattern) is more good pattern.

    00:25:628 - dkkdk 00:26:804 - kddkd reason is same as above.but,option suggestion.

    00:38:373 - add d? follow the vocal.
[ Oni]


  • irc log
    14:44 Charlotte: 01:04:549 (292,293) - swap?
    14:45 Nardoxyribonucleic: Hmm, I think keeping it as kd would help reflect the vocal pitch at 01:04:059 (288,289,293,294) -
    14:45 Charlotte: okay
    14:45 Nardoxyribonucleic: while 294 maps to the bg instrument
    14:46 Charlotte: 01:17:392 (377,378,379,380,381,382,383,384,385) - how about you think kdkkddkkd?
    14:48 Charlotte: Oni suggstion is that's all.vocal + inst good map<3
    14:49 Nardoxyribonucleic: 01:17:392 (377,378,379) - is mapped as kkd to follow 01:04:843 (294,295,296) - . 01:17:785 (381,382,383,384,385) - as variation compared to 01:05:236 (297,298,299,300,301) -
    14:53 Nardoxyribonucleic: What do you think?
    14:54 Charlotte: my reason is
    14:55 Charlotte: 01:17:000 (374,375,376) - here is dkd
    14:55 Charlotte: so 01:17:392 (377,378,379) - kdk (swap pattern) is more good
    14:55 Charlotte: imo
    14:55 Charlotte: yourself
    14:57 Nardoxyribonucleic: I guess I would prefer consistency-based variation here
    14:57 Charlotte: okok
    14:58 Nardoxyribonucleic: 01:17:785 - also it seems that k would be better for this snare sound
    15:00 Charlotte: my reason is weak.your mapping is already good
    15:01 Nardoxyribonucleic: npnp~
Good luck Nardo & Wmf :)
Topic Starter
Nardoxyribonucleic

Charlotte wrote:

hi via game-in chat

[ about]
  1. d is don note
  2. k is kat note
  3. D is big don note
  4. K is big kat note
[ Kantan]


  • 00:32:687 - If remove this notes,you can make slowly flow. Remain unchanged for a better spread with Futsuu.

    00:42:490 - 00:58:177 - I think 2/1 + 1/1 pattern is long.so 00:48:373 - & 00:49:549 - del fixed
[ Futsuu]


  • 00:49:941 - You can add d.bcz,00:49:353 (115,116) - haven't finisher,so I think dd d K is good flow. As the snaps are a bit complicated in this session, I would prefer more 2/1 breaks.
[ Muzukashii]


  • 00:23:667 - I think kdkkd (dkddk swap pattern) is more good pattern. I think kkd at 00:23:667 (79,80,81) - could reflect the pitch drop more appropriately.

    00:25:628 - dkkdk 00:26:804 - kddkd reason is same as above.but,option suggestion. Refer to ^ . 00:26:804 (91,92,93,94,95) - is the mirror image of 00:23:667 (79,80,81,82,83) - in attempt to follow the pitch difference occurring at 00:27:588 (95) -

    00:38:373 - add d? follow the vocal. No change to keep a distance from Oni's density.
[ Oni]


  • irc log
    14:44 Charlotte: 01:04:549 (292,293) - swap?
    14:45 Nardoxyribonucleic: Hmm, I think keeping it as kd would help reflect the vocal pitch at 01:04:059 (288,289,293,294) -
    14:45 Charlotte: okay
    14:45 Nardoxyribonucleic: while 294 maps to the bg instrument
    14:46 Charlotte: 01:17:392 (377,378,379,380,381,382,383,384,385) - how about you think kdkkddkkd?
    14:48 Charlotte: Oni suggstion is that's all.vocal + inst good map<3
    14:49 Nardoxyribonucleic: 01:17:392 (377,378,379) - is mapped as kkd to follow 01:04:843 (294,295,296) - . 01:17:785 (381,382,383,384,385) - as variation compared to 01:05:236 (297,298,299,300,301) -
    14:53 Nardoxyribonucleic: What do you think?
    14:54 Charlotte: my reason is
    14:55 Charlotte: 01:17:000 (374,375,376) - here is dkd
    14:55 Charlotte: so 01:17:392 (377,378,379) - kdk (swap pattern) is more good
    14:55 Charlotte: imo
    14:55 Charlotte: yourself
    14:57 Nardoxyribonucleic: I guess I would prefer consistency-based variation here
    14:57 Charlotte: okok
    14:58 Nardoxyribonucleic: 01:17:785 - also it seems that k would be better for this snare sound
    15:00 Charlotte: my reason is weak.your mapping is already good
    15:01 Nardoxyribonucleic: npnp~
Good luck Nardo & Wmf :)
Thanks for your mod Charlotte~ :)
wmfchris

Charlotte wrote:

[ Wmf's Muzukashii]


  • 00:00:334 - del.I think k dk ddk is more good slow
    The piano is so clear that it's quite hard for me not to use kddk there, as the map is a 1/2-dominated one. Either patterns work so I will keep it for now, but I may change that is more concern are raised.


    00:02:294 - change to slider or notes.because,have drum roll sound.so spinner < slider
    hmmmm no. (1) Slider gives freedom over what to hit that does not necessarily fits the song, this is something that I hesitate very very much to use, which is the case for all my maps (2) in that sense a dkdkdk alteration works actually quite well imo. (3) The finishing sound effect works well with the transition at 00:03:275 - too.

    00:05:039 - del & 00:04:647 - change to k? I think 1/2 pattern is long.still calm part,so I prefer short pattern.
    00:04:647 - Would go for a d when you compare with k at 00:04:451 - with the beating sound
    00:05:039 - the melody actually sounds as a single sentence and the 'calm part' only starts after the second spinner


    00:04:647 - change to k.dkdd < dkkdYou actually want 00:04:843 (7,8) - to be the same due to the pitch, so it has to either be dd or kk. However kk kinds of irritates me as it's not consistent with the pitch at 00:03:863 (3) - . I agree that dd kinds of hides the tone on the transition 00:05:039 (8,9) -
    but I will take mine as a better option


    00:07:981 - hmm...I think no need this spinner.bcz,this part have strong finisher.
    I want to focus on the finishing effect that fits with the song, and also as a transition indication.

    00:23:471 - dkdkkd is more fit?
    Not really from the vocal tone.

    00:28:177 - add kat? follow the vocal.
    There is nothing in the song at that 1/2...

    00:39:549 (98) - still k sound?
    It's a descending tone so it's either kdd or kkd, but considering that the note happens between two drum hits and the vocal intensity I will go for a d.

    00:44:059 - kkddk? I think more clean pattern
    kdk reflects the vocal pitch at 00:44:451 (111,112,113) - , so I will stick with this unless it's a difficulty issue.

    00:45:236 - kkddkdk? ^
    ^

    00:47:785 - change to d?
    The pitch remains the same for the 3 notes so kkk would be better.

    00:49:941 - 00:51:314 - I feel this part spacing is little strange.so add some notes?
    Must be one of the controversial part :D I want to isolate the big notes so as to emphasize the last sentence before bridging into the kiai part. Looks a bit flat if I put notes as usual (like the last 10 secs)

    00:56:020 - kkddkdk?
    Transitions at the white ticks sound more natural to me. Again the last 3 notes follows from the vocal pitch.

    00:58:177 - add d & 00:58:373 - kddkd & 00:59:353 - remove? I think more fit.
    Was going with the vocal throughout the kiai so I don't think a note here would be appropriate, like 00:28:177 - . The note 00:59:353 - acted as a bridge between two sentences so as to create a continuous flow from the beginning to the end of the kiai.

    01:05:236 (191,192) - change to k.bcz,high pitch.
    nice

    01:08:569 - kkddkdk or kkdkdkk.If you pick kkdkdkk,01:10:530 - kdkdd is good? bcz,swap pattern.
    Same as 00:56:020 - . kkkdk follows from the same reasoning as in 00:44:059 - .

    01:18:765 - remove.I think notes is good.
    Same as the second spinner.

    01:23:079 - You can remove this notes. I prefer dkkkkkd < d kkkd
    why not?

    * kiai time is haven't 1/4 pattern.but,1/2 pattern is long.so If you think little hard,you can remove some notes.
    By the time I was invited I saw an oni and I thought it's going to be a 2 diff set altogether with solo diffs. I deemed the oni to be good enough and are of similar style as mine so I decided to create a diff below oni, yet preserving the fluidity, and that's why you will see some bridging esp. in the kiai section. The difficulty is precisely what I wanted.
^.^

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TitleUnicode:桜色ダイアリー
Artist:Moso Calibration
ArtistUnicode:妄想キャリブレーション
Creator:Nardoxyribonucleic
Version:Wmf's Muzukashii
Source:冴えない彼女の育てかた♭
Tags:Taiko Saenai Heroine no Sodatekata Flat Saekano Ending TV Size wmfchris
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Topic Starter
Nardoxyribonucleic
Updated Wmf's Muzukashii.
Jonarwhal
Hello Nardo~

[Futsuu]
  1. 00:58:961 (139,140,141) - before here, all of your 1/2 patterns in the kiai can be based on vocal rhythms (00:53:863 (125,126,127) - / 00:55:432 (130,131) - / 00:57:000 (134,135,136,137) - ). This makes 00:59:157 (140) - this 1/2 rhythm feel out of place. I would rather have it mapped 00:59:941 - here, making it take advantage of a vocal 1/2 pattern. (If you agree, do the same 01:05:432 - here, 01:11:706 - here, 01:17:588 - and here.)
[wmfchris]
  1. 00:07:785 - Please consider removing the spinner and mapping this section normally. This is because you miss strong, offbeat finishers here that a spinner does not properly do justice to.
  2. 00:14:843 (19) - Consider switching this to k because it's identical to the previous pitch and different from the following pitch, and because it's a slightly easier pattern to play.
  3. 00:16:216 - / 00:17:785 - / 00:19:353 - Consider adding a don in some of these locations to account for the missed vocal and to make the spacing cleaner.
  4. 00:57:196 (157,158) - Consider switching to dons so they more accurately reflect the lowering in pitch that occurs here.
  5. 01:04:059 (185) - Consider switching to kat so that it better reflects the rise in pitch, and the similarity in pitch to the following note.
  6. 01:18:765 (1) - Similar to this spinner, this could be mapped normally according to either the strong finishers or the vocals. Ignoring both of these for a spinner does not do this section justice.
[Muzukashii]
  1. 00:17:785 (60) - Switch this to d because it's a much lower pitch than the previous note (and a different singer), and it's the same as the next note. This also creates variety from the surrounding patterns where this is a k and the singer is the same.
  2. 00:33:373 (116) - Consider switching to D because the pitch is only getting lower. If not, consider making 00:33:079 (115,116,117) - this KKK and saving the D for the lowest note, 00:33:863 (118) - here.
[Oni]
  1. 00:02:294 (10,11,12) - Can this be ddk? dkk seems a little unnecessary here.
  2. 00:17:785 (71) - same as musukashii
  3. 00:27:392 (111) - Switch to d because the pitch is the same low pitch as previously
  4. 00:33:079 - same as musukashii
  5. 00:57:785 (248) - since you're following the vocals around here, I don't see why this is a k, it seems that it would make more sense to have 00:57:588
  6. 01:03:471 (284) - thru 01:06:412 (307) - you're getting super dense here, is this intentional?
best of luck
get more SP and call me back
wmfchris

Jonawaga wrote:

[wmfchris]
  1. 00:07:785 - Please consider removing the spinner and mapping this section normally. This is because you miss strong, offbeat finishers here that a spinner does not properly do justice to.
    :d
  2. 00:14:843 (19) - Consider switching this to k because it's identical to the previous pitch and different from the following pitch, and because it's a slightly easier pattern to play.
    :d
  3. 00:16:216 - / 00:17:785 - / 00:19:353 - Consider adding a don in some of these locations to account for the missed vocal and to make the spacing cleaner.You can actually find a few more examples where I skip the notes at the vocal beat (like 00:50:530 - ) because you want to emphasize the rhythmic structure of that section. Here by not putting a d at the suggested position you have the 3/2 - 1/1 - 1/1 - 1/2 spacing within a bar and the decreasing distances works very well with the echo-like structure here. Then 00:19:353 - won't receive a note as well, for the sake of consistency. I can see how people generally see it and I am not strong opposing towards adding those d's, so I will see if more concerns are raised.

  4. 00:57:196 (157,158) - Consider switching to dons so they more accurately reflect the lowering in pitch that occurs here.
    I used k here because it's lower than the previous 00:56:804 (156) - and connects properly with the next sentence that starts properly with kd at 00:56:804 (156) -
  5. 01:04:059 (185) - Consider switching to kat so that it better reflects the rise in pitch, and the similarity in pitch to the following note.
    Has to be a k lol must be some sort of accident
  6. 01:18:765 (1) - Similar to this spinner, this could be mapped normally according to either the strong finishers or the vocals. Ignoring both of these for a spinner does not do this section justice.
    It is desirable to put a longer break within that 2 bars interval given the difficulty rating. However if you fill the first bar with notes then resting at the second bar makes no sense given the persisting voice and drumrolls. Leaving it blank sounds weird as well, as the song are of the usual complexity (in contrast to the original second spinner), so I would rather use a spinner to balance things off (and the finishing hitsound fits the song too).
As far as my mapping style goes I don't really think that strong finishers are essential places for notes, as long as the map fits the overall structure of the song.


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Topic Starter
Nardoxyribonucleic
Updated Wmf's Muzukashii. I will post my response tomorrow.
Topic Starter
Nardoxyribonucleic

Jonawaga wrote:

Hello Nardo~

[Futsuu]
  1. 00:58:961 (139,140,141) - before here, all of your 1/2 patterns in the kiai can be based on vocal rhythms (00:53:863 (125,126,127) - / 00:55:432 (130,131) - / 00:57:000 (134,135,136,137) - ). This makes 00:59:157 (140) - this 1/2 rhythm feel out of place. I would rather have it mapped 00:59:941 - here, making it take advantage of a vocal 1/2 pattern. (If you agree, do the same 01:05:432 - here, 01:11:706 - here, 01:17:588 - and here.) I agree that accompanying vocal is the main concern, but not the only one. As I followed both vocal and instruments in higher difficulties, I think it is not bad to follow some non-vocal rhythms at times not only for the spread's sake but also a similar mapping strategy across the set.
[Muzukashii]
  1. 00:17:785 (60) - Switch this to d because it's a much lower pitch than the previous note (and a different singer), and it's the same as the next note. This also creates variety from the surrounding patterns where this is a k and the singer is the same. Agreed for variety, fixed.
  2. 00:33:373 (116) - Consider switching to D because the pitch is only getting lower. If not, consider making 00:33:079 (115,116,117) - this KKK and saving the D for the lowest note, 00:33:863 (118) - here. In relative sense, K K D D could match the pitch decrease across 00:33:079 (115,116,117,118) - as well.
[Oni]
  1. 00:02:294 (10,11,12) - Can this be ddk? dkk seems a little unnecessary here. Retained for the background snares.
  2. 00:17:785 (71) - same as musukashii fixed
  3. 00:27:392 (111) - Switch to d because the pitch is the same low pitch as previously same as 00:02:294 (10,11,12) -
  4. 00:33:079 - same as musukashii refer to Muzukashii
  5. 00:57:785 (248) - since you're following the vocals around here, I don't see why this is a k, it seems that it would make more sense to have 00:57:588 Again, vocal pitch is progressively decreasing across 00:57:000 (243,244,247,249) - , thus the pattern arrangement.
  6. 01:03:471 (284) - thru 01:06:412 (307) - you're getting super dense here, is this intentional? Yes, this serves to build up the overall intensity to bridge the second half of the kiai, making the subsequent note density increase at 01:14:843 - more intuitive in my opinion.
best of luck
get more SP and call me back
Thanks for your mod Jon~ :)
qoot8123
Did a little mod with mapper in irc :)

irc
2017-06-14 19:38 qoot8123: 我開始mod瞜
2017-06-14 19:39 Nardoxyribonucleic: 嗯
2017-06-14 19:43 qoot8123: futsuu 的00:37:000 (89,90) - 應該可以刪掉,muzu這一段有2/1 break 我覺得futsuu可以有比較大的
2017-06-14 19:45 Nardoxyribonucleic: 但Muzu主要還是1/2音偏多 Kantan只有2/1所以Futsuu我想用1/1來過渡
2017-06-14 19:46 qoot8123: 恩
2017-06-14 19:47 qoot8123: 00:12:294 (18) - 那kantan 這裡應該可以刪掉
2017-06-14 19:49 Nardoxyribonucleic: 這裡曲的步調比00:34:647 - 這段稍快 所以我下音多一點
2017-06-14 19:49 qoot8123: ok
2017-06-14 19:49 Nardoxyribonucleic: 可以比較Kantan跟Futsuu這兩部分
2017-06-14 20:00 qoot8123: 00:58:569 - ~00:59:745 - 改成[https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8341367 這樣]如何?
2017-06-14 20:02 qoot8123: 後面也有類似的
2017-06-14 20:02 Nardoxyribonucleic: 不錯 全部改了
2017-06-14 20:03 qoot8123: 01:04:059 - ~01:06:020 - 改成[https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8341386 這樣]呢?
2017-06-14 20:03 qoot8123: 我覺得跟前一段稍嫌不同
2017-06-14 20:06 Nardoxyribonucleic: 我改成[https://puu.sh/wjK1X.jpg 這樣]了
2017-06-14 20:06 qoot8123: 好
2017-06-14 20:07 Nardoxyribonucleic: 154是大圓
2017-06-14 20:07 qoot8123: 恩
2017-06-14 20:07 qoot8123: 再來換muzu
2017-06-14 20:10 qoot8123: 00:36:608 (124) - 這裡應該可以移到00:36:510 -
2017-06-14 20:11 qoot8123: 後面也有一些可以放3/4的部分
2017-06-14 20:11 Nardoxyribonucleic: 00:42:883 (142) - ?
2017-06-14 20:12 qoot8123: 恩
2017-06-14 20:13 Nardoxyribonucleic: 改了
2017-06-14 20:13 qoot8123: 如果覺得偏難可以放個3/2 break 像[https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8341457 這樣](00:35:432 - ~00:40:922 - )
2017-06-14 20:15 Nardoxyribonucleic: 難度上還好 而且有個較易的Muzu作緩衝
2017-06-14 20:16 qoot8123: 恩
2017-06-14 20:16 qoot8123: 畢竟kiai幾乎沒break w
2017-06-14 20:17 Nardoxyribonucleic: 35秒是有點長 不過以Muzu來說還可接受
2017-06-14 20:18 qoot8123: muzu 大致就這樣,換oni摟
2017-06-14 20:18 Nardoxyribonucleic: 45秒的話就要加個2/1 break了
2017-06-14 20:21 qoot8123: 這裡00:39:157 (160,161,162) - 不跟3/4是因為vocal嗎?
2017-06-14 20:22 Nardoxyribonucleic: 對
2017-06-14 20:22 qoot8123: 恩
2017-06-14 20:26 qoot8123: oni 的hp會不會偏低?感覺改成6或5.5會比較好一點
2017-06-14 20:27 Nardoxyribonucleic: 改6了
2017-06-14 20:27 qoot8123: 恩
2017-06-14 20:27 qoot8123: 大致上就這些了
2017-06-14 20:27 Nardoxyribonucleic: 嗯, 謝謝! :3
Topic Starter
Nardoxyribonucleic

qoot8123 wrote:

Did a little mod with mapper in irc :)

irc
2017-06-14 19:38 qoot8123: 我開始mod瞜
2017-06-14 19:39 Nardoxyribonucleic: 嗯
2017-06-14 19:43 qoot8123: futsuu 的00:37:000 (89,90) - 應該可以刪掉,muzu這一段有2/1 break 我覺得futsuu可以有比較大的
2017-06-14 19:45 Nardoxyribonucleic: 但Muzu主要還是1/2音偏多 Kantan只有2/1所以Futsuu我想用1/1來過渡
2017-06-14 19:46 qoot8123: 恩
2017-06-14 19:47 qoot8123: 00:12:294 (18) - 那kantan 這裡應該可以刪掉
2017-06-14 19:49 Nardoxyribonucleic: 這裡曲的步調比00:34:647 - 這段稍快 所以我下音多一點
2017-06-14 19:49 qoot8123: ok
2017-06-14 19:49 Nardoxyribonucleic: 可以比較Kantan跟Futsuu這兩部分
2017-06-14 20:00 qoot8123: 00:58:569 - ~00:59:745 - 改成[https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8341367 這樣]如何?
2017-06-14 20:02 qoot8123: 後面也有類似的
2017-06-14 20:02 Nardoxyribonucleic: 不錯 全部改了
2017-06-14 20:03 qoot8123: 01:04:059 - ~01:06:020 - 改成[https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8341386 這樣]呢?
2017-06-14 20:03 qoot8123: 我覺得跟前一段稍嫌不同
2017-06-14 20:06 Nardoxyribonucleic: 我改成[https://puu.sh/wjK1X.jpg 這樣]了
2017-06-14 20:06 qoot8123: 好
2017-06-14 20:07 Nardoxyribonucleic: 154是大圓
2017-06-14 20:07 qoot8123: 恩
2017-06-14 20:07 qoot8123: 再來換muzu
2017-06-14 20:10 qoot8123: 00:36:608 (124) - 這裡應該可以移到00:36:510 -
2017-06-14 20:11 qoot8123: 後面也有一些可以放3/4的部分
2017-06-14 20:11 Nardoxyribonucleic: 00:42:883 (142) - ?
2017-06-14 20:12 qoot8123: 恩
2017-06-14 20:13 Nardoxyribonucleic: 改了
2017-06-14 20:13 qoot8123: 如果覺得偏難可以放個3/2 break 像[https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8341457 這樣](00:35:432 - ~00:40:922 - )
2017-06-14 20:15 Nardoxyribonucleic: 難度上還好 而且有個較易的Muzu作緩衝
2017-06-14 20:16 qoot8123: 恩
2017-06-14 20:16 qoot8123: 畢竟kiai幾乎沒break w
2017-06-14 20:17 Nardoxyribonucleic: 35秒是有點長 不過以Muzu來說還可接受
2017-06-14 20:18 qoot8123: muzu 大致就這樣,換oni摟
2017-06-14 20:18 Nardoxyribonucleic: 45秒的話就要加個2/1 break了
2017-06-14 20:21 qoot8123: 這裡00:39:157 (160,161,162) - 不跟3/4是因為vocal嗎?
2017-06-14 20:22 Nardoxyribonucleic: 對
2017-06-14 20:22 qoot8123: 恩
2017-06-14 20:26 qoot8123: oni 的hp會不會偏低?感覺改成6或5.5會比較好一點
2017-06-14 20:27 Nardoxyribonucleic: 改6了
2017-06-14 20:27 qoot8123: 恩
2017-06-14 20:27 qoot8123: 大致上就這些了
2017-06-14 20:27 Nardoxyribonucleic: 嗯, 謝謝! :3
Thank you very much qoot~ :)

Difficulties are updated to this point.
Arrival
As requested

[Kantan]

00:53:471 (73) - What about a rhythm like this : (00:56:608 - timestamp)

-> Would help emphasizing the vocals while letting a 3/4 break after.

Using this kind of structure overall may help making the Kantan kiai less repetitive than it is now.

[Futsuu]

All fine

[Wmf]

00:44:255 (110) - I'd suggest removing this not to create a build up and not suddenly mapping all vocals, since 00:43:863 - isnt mapped. You can also do the same for this note 00:45:628 (116) -

00:56:216 (153,154,155,156) - Not changing colours at all makes the map uninteresting, most of all when there are actual pitch changes for exemple on this note 00:56:412 (154) -

00:58:373 (161,162) - What about ctrl+g these two notes, removing 00:58:961 (164) - and putting this as kat 00:59:157 (164) - . Would structure better the switch between vocals and instruments.

01:04:647 (187,188,189,190,191,192,193,194,195) - Long 9 1/2 patterns bring the issue of them not emphasizing anything, try removing 01:05:628 (193) - and apply this kind of change for the other related patterns. Also at this part a 2/1 break is necessary after such a long period of continuous mapping, so basically removing these notes 01:05:432 (192,193,194) - should be considered.

My personnal dislike about this difficulty is that you dont bring emphasizes between vocals and instrumentals, you're mapping more a difficulty (aka long 1/2 patterns for muzukashii) without caring too much of the song itself.

[Muzukashii]

Looks fine

[Oni]

00:03:079 (16) - This is very personnal and nitpicky but I'd like to point it out : Putting a don before a don finisher, even though called by the instrumental behind kinda break the emphasizing of 00:03:275 (17) - since you'll use the same fingers for both note and thus not really make a big gameplay differentiation. Therefore I'd put a k triplet here.

00:57:588 (247,248) - I'd ctrl+g these two notes since you're mainly focused on following the vocals, therefore the kick should'nt be considered more than the vocal pitch there. 00:57:981 (249,250,251) - You can then put this as a kdk in order not to break the contrast you prealably made.

01:18:569 - I'd do it like this

> Would respect the instrumental better while bring further emphasis to 01:19:941 (395) - since a triplet would be ahead of it.

I guess thats pretty much everything :) Good Luck !
Topic Starter
Nardoxyribonucleic

Arrival wrote:

As requested

[Kantan]

00:53:471 (73) - What about a rhythm like this : (00:56:608 - timestamp)

-> Would help emphasizing the vocals while letting a 3/4 break after. Hmm, I think this kind of structure is a bit complex for this level of difficulty... Did some pattern changes to make it less repetitive though.

Using this kind of structure overall may help making the Kantan kiai less repetitive than it is now.

[Futsuu]

All fine

[Muzukashii]

Looks fine

[Oni]

00:03:079 (16) - This is very personnal and nitpicky but I'd like to point it out : Putting a don before a don finisher, even though called by the instrumental behind kinda break the emphasizing of 00:03:275 (17) - since you'll use the same fingers for both note and thus not really make a big gameplay differentiation. Therefore I'd put a k triplet here. Retained as I think the stressed sound could still be emphasized by the finish note with bilateral hand movement.

00:57:588 (247,248) - I'd ctrl+g these two notes since you're mainly focused on following the vocals, therefore the kick should'nt be considered more than the vocal pitch there. 00:57:981 (249,250,251) - You can then put this as a kdk in order not to break the contrast you prealably made. In fact they are still following the vocal. 00:57:588 (247,249) - share the same vocal pitch and are lower-pitched than 00:57:000 (243,244) - , so they are both mapped as don for the pitch decrease.

01:18:569 - I'd do it like this

> Would respect the instrumental better while bring further emphasis to 01:19:941 (395) - since a triplet would be ahead of it. I would prefer different representations of the stressed sounds (D, ddd and K) for greater variety as the top difficulty.

I guess thats pretty much everything :) Good Luck !
Thanks for your mod Arrival~ :)
Hanjamon
Hey Nardo~ here is my mod as requested.

  • d=Don
    D=Big Don
    k=Katsu
    K=Big Katsu
[General]
  1. All looks fine
[Kantan]
  1. 00:06:804 - add k in 00:06:804 - and d or k in 00:07:196 - ? considering how it's the Futsuu wouldn't be too hard imo and maybe improves a bit the spread?
  2. 00:14:255 - change to d? you already have a d there in Futsuu and probably for a Kantan it flows better having a different note colour before the 1/1 like you did in 00:11:118 - ?
  3. 00:48:373 - add a d here? makes a good consistency with 00:51:510 - :3.
  4. 01:00:922 - it's strange because you have a 5plet 1/1 pattern out of the kiai 00:45:628 - but the kiai should be a bit more dense? i suggest a adding a note in 01:00:922 - (k maybe?) for a little more of density and more consistent with 00:54:647 - as you have a note there.
  5. 01:13:471 - if you applied ^ add a note here (k probably too).
  6. 01:25:236 - if you applied 00:06:804 -, i suggest adding a k in 01:25:236 - and 01:25:628 - .
[Futsuu]
  1. 00:36:804 - add a d here? i think a dk here wouldn't hurt the spread and sounds good.
  2. 00:42:294 - if you applied ^ same here about adding a d here.
  3. 00:42:883 - i suggest adding a d or k here and deleting 00:43:667 - as it's more consistent with 00:37:392 - .
  4. 00:44:647 - change this note to k and 00:44:843 - to d? a kkd fits good with vocals + instrumental and makes more variety with 00:46:216 - instead of being two kdk patterns.
[Wmf's Muzukashii]
  1. 00:16:412 - change to k? the vocal pitch here is higher and same goes for the piano, for that reason i think k sounds better there.
  2. 00:27:392 (58,59) - control+g these notes? (kd) dkkdkd sounds better here due to the snare sound of 00:27:392 - and the decreasing pitch in 00:27:588 - .
  3. 00:28:961 - change to k? higher pitch than 00:29:353 - and snare sound, so fits better with k imo.
  4. 00:39:549 - change to k? sounds exactly the same as 00:39:157 - and has a higher pitch than 00:39:941 - .
  5. 00:50:138 - this part is pretty inconsistent, i suggest doing this: add a k in 00:50:530 - and 00:51:118 - and move 00:51:510 - to 00:51:314 - , then remove the finisher of 00:50:334 - and 00:50:922 -. This will make a double xxx pattern as you did in 00:47:000 - and more consistent.
  6. 00:56:412 - change to k? as the pitch it's higher here.
  7. 00:58:373 - change this note to d and 00:58:569 - 00:58:765 - to k? starting the pattern with dkk follows better the vocals and the instrumental.
  8. 01:03:079 - change 01:03:079 - 01:03:471 - to k and 01:03:275 - to d? ending the pattern with kdk fits better with the vocals imo.
  9. 01:08:961 - k due to a higher pitch?
  10. 01:21:706 - you should make this part more or less like 00:03:275 - , as it's inconsistent.
[Muzukashii]
  1. 00:05:039 - add a d here? fits good and isn't harder than Oni.
  2. 00:18:765 - delete this note so it looks a bit different from Oni? as it's the same.
  3. 00:40:138 - same as ^, delete this note for variety with Oni like you did in 00:46:804 -?
  4. 01:01:902 - change to d as the pitch is lower in vocals and instrumental?
  5. 01:08:177 - same as ^.
  6. 01:23:471 - if you applied 00:05:039 - , same here about adding a note.
[Oni]

  1. 01:01:902 - same as Muzu, change to d as the pitch is lower in vocals and instrumental?
  2. 01:08:177 - same as ^.
  3. 01:27:687 - add a k here? i think ddk d kkd fits pretty good there and in the similar section of the start of the song you already have 2 triplets, so having two triplets here too it wouldn't hurt i think.
Nice mapset, good luck~
Topic Starter
Nardoxyribonucleic

Hanjamon wrote:

Hey Nardo~ here is my mod as requested.

  • d=Don
    D=Big Don
    k=Katsu
    K=Big Katsu
[General]
  1. All looks fine
[Kantan]
  1. 00:06:804 - add k in 00:06:804 - and d or k in 00:07:196 - ? considering how it's the Futsuu wouldn't be too hard imo and maybe improves a bit the spread? I think this would be a bit hard due to the neighbouring red line notes.
  2. 00:14:255 - change to d? you already have a d there in Futsuu and probably for a Kantan it flows better having a different note colour before the 1/1 like you did in 00:11:118 - ? Retained to cohere with 00:11:118 (16) - . Both notes are d in Futsuu as well as the extents of vocal mapping in these two difficulties are different.
  3. 00:48:373 - add a d here? makes a good consistency with 00:51:510 - :3. Added k there.
  4. 01:00:922 - it's strange because you have a 5plet 1/1 pattern out of the kiai 00:45:628 - but the kiai should be a bit more dense? i suggest a adding a note in 01:00:922 - (k maybe?) for a little more of density and more consistent with 00:54:647 - as you have a note there. Hmm, this would sound a bit unnatural and imbalanced as this chain has equivalent vocal density as 00:54:647 - this one.
  5. 01:13:471 - if you applied ^ add a note here (k probably too). fixed
  6. 01:25:236 - if you applied 00:06:804 -, i suggest adding a k in 01:25:236 - and 01:25:628 - . same as 00:06:804 -
[Futsuu]
  1. 00:36:804 - add a d here? i think a dk here wouldn't hurt the spread and sounds good. I would prefer 1/1 or longer snaps in this calm session.
  2. 00:42:294 - if you applied ^ same here about adding a d here. same as ^
  3. 00:42:883 - i suggest adding a d or k here and deleting 00:43:667 - as it's more consistent with 00:37:392 - . Remain unchanged for constellation consistency from 00:34:647 to 00:37:785 -
  4. 00:44:647 - change this note to k and 00:44:843 - to d? a kkd fits good with vocals + instrumental and makes more variety with 00:46:216 - instead of being two kdk patterns. I think keeping it the same is also fine as both vocal patterns are similar with identical pitch.
[Muzukashii]
  1. 00:05:039 - add a d here? fits good and isn't harder than Oni. I would like to maintain a more linear spread by keeping a distance from Oni's density.
  2. 00:18:765 - delete this note so it looks a bit different from Oni? as it's the same. Deleted 00:16:216 (55,60,65) -
  3. 00:40:138 - same as ^, delete this note for variety with Oni like you did in 00:46:804 -? fixed
  4. 01:01:902 - change to d as the pitch is lower in vocals and instrumental? Nope, the pitch in fact goes higher.
  5. 01:08:177 - same as ^. same as ^
  6. 01:23:471 - if you applied 00:05:039 - , same here about adding a note. same as 00:05:039 -
[Oni]
  1. 01:01:902 - same as Muzu, change to d as the pitch is lower in vocals and instrumental? same as Muzukashii
  2. 01:08:177 - same as ^. ^
  3. 01:27:687 - add a k here? i think ddk d kkd fits pretty good there and in the similar section of the start of the song you already have 2 triplets, so having two triplets here too it wouldn't hurt i think. fixed
Nice mapset, good luck~
Thanks for your mod Hanjamon~ :)
wmfchris

Arrival wrote:

[Wmf]

00:44:255 (110) - I'd suggest removing this not to create a build up and not suddenly mapping all vocals, since 00:43:863 - isnt mapped. You can also do the same for this note 00:45:628 (116) -
Not sure what do you mean by 'suddenly all vocals'. The vocal that dominates my mapping does not imply that I map exactly to the every vocal sound. I mapped with the vocal before, at and after this point. So back to here the vocal at 00:43:667 - actually slurved by 1/1 in contrast to 00:45:236 - that leads to the current pattern. It may be taken as a transition to a relatively more vigorous part as well.


00:56:216 (153,154,155,156) - Not changing colours at all makes the map uninteresting, most of all when there are actual pitch changes for exemple on this note 00:56:412 (154) -
The way I realized that was kdd + d + dkk so I see nothing wrong with it. I don't see why consecutive d's must be boring because there are variations throughout, not to mention that this is only 4 in a row. Anyway I changed 00:56:608 (155) - to k so that such intention is clearer.


00:58:373 (161,162) - What about ctrl+g these two notes:d, removing 00:58:961 (164) - and putting this as kat 00:59:157 (164) - . Would structure better the switch between vocals and instruments.
I know there is a instrumental break at 00:58:961 - but it's awkward to break there because (1) the vocal did not end there (2) as I mentioned I want to create the sentences after sentences in the kiai time aka fluidity just as what the performer did. Then the dk config at 00:59:157 (165,166) - comes naturally from the drums and is consistent to the k at 00:56:608 (155) - that I decided to alter after the above suggestion.



01:04:647 (187,188,189,190,191,192,193,194,195) - Long 9 1/2 patterns bring the issue of them not emphasizing anything, try removing 01:05:628 (193) - and apply this kind of change for the other related patterns. Also at this part a 2/1 break is necessary after such a long period of continuous mapping, so basically removing these notes 01:05:432 (192,193,194) - should be considered.
The intention for these bridging 1/2 streams were state clear as above. As for the break you have one after the last spinner and one at 00:40:922 - so that has been cleared.


My personnal dislike about this difficulty is that you dont bring emphasizes between vocals and instrumentals, you're mapping more a difficulty (aka long 1/2 patterns for muzukashii) without caring too much of the song itself.
Really? There are many references to the instruments, both percussion and non-percussion. The beginning, of course; the background melody had been supporting those variations throughout, examples include 00:26:608 - and more obviously 00:33:079 - . And for the percussion part it's even more apparent as one may observe from my explanation on all those mods.

Hanjamon wrote:

[Wmf's Muzukashii]
  1. 00:16:412 - change to k? the vocal pitch here is higher and same goes for the piano, for that reason i think k sounds better there.
    You are right, but my intention is to emphasize the drop from the previous note, where the pitch stay low until echoing again. I want to be consistent with the later echoes and that high piano sound does not create disharmony against the d.
  2. 00:27:392 (58,59) - control+g these notes? (kd) dkkdkd sounds better here due to the snare sound of 00:27:392 - and the decreasing pitch in 00:27:588 - .Are you sure? The pitch is decreasing there. Not closely following the snares as you might have noticed, and ending with k works well with both the vocal and the piano.
  3. 00:28:961 - change to k? higher pitch than 00:29:353 - and snare sound, so fits better with k imo.
    Stay consistent with 00:28:961 (62) - . Just as before it's more natural to compare with the previous note.
  4. 00:39:549 - change to k? sounds exactly the same as 00:39:157 - and has a higher pitch than 00:39:941 - .
    yeah and consistent with 00:37:981 -
  5. 00:50:138 - this part is pretty inconsistent, i suggest doing this: add a k in 00:50:530 - and 00:51:118 - and move 00:51:510 - to 00:51:314 - , then remove the finisher of 00:50:334 - and 00:50:922 -. This will make a double xxx pattern as you did in 00:47:000 - and more consistent.
    Not sure what do you mean by inconsistent. The first replicate 00:47:000 - shared the same second half as 00:50:138 - , and the first half changed because of the emphasized note 00:50:922 - which is not seen in the first time. As I explained above the intention is to isolate those finishers before bridging into the kiai section.
  6. 00:56:412 - change to k? as the pitch it's higher here.
    Seems like it's not the case...
  7. 00:58:373 - change this note to d and 00:58:569 - 00:58:765 - to k? starting the pattern with dkk follows better the vocals and the instrumental.Fixed as per last modder's suggestion.
  8. 01:03:079 - change 01:03:079 - 01:03:471 - to k and 01:03:275 - to d? ending the pattern with kdk fits better with the vocals imo.
  9. 01:08:961 - k due to a higher pitch?
    Seems like it's not the case...
  10. 01:21:706 - you should make this part more or less like 00:03:275 - , as it's inconsistent.
    good idea


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Topic Starter
Nardoxyribonucleic
Difficulties are now updated to this point.
zigizigiefe
Hey Nardo and wmfchris \o/ via Forum PM

[General]
  1. Nardo,please write which ones you applied with green and rejected with bold text.Sometimes I can't get which you applied and kept :/
  2. I have concern about hitsound volume. 00:02:294 - Since density and volume changes suddenly,move green line at 00:03:275 - to here.
[Kantan]
  1. 00:04:059 (7) - I can't hear anything except weak drum,you could move to 00:03:863 - to highlight stronger sound.I know that you want to make it simple but I think it doesn't fit at all.01:22:490 (116) - for consistency.
[Futsuu]
  1. 00:25:236 - When there's no note,it is inconsistent to 00:12:687 -
[Wmf's Muzukashii]
  1. You followed drum 'till 00:05:824 (11,12,13) - .It should be dkd according to drum.If you followed something else,you may keep it.
  2. 00:12:687 - As I explained on Nardo's diffs,why did you ignore that sound?
  3. 00:22:098 - It is more intense than others,so you should use more intense patterns.Such as 00:22:687 - you could highlight snare by using kat.Apply on other parts like that for consistency.
  4. 00:46:216 (119) - Vocal sound stops here and there is no strong drum.No need this note.
[Muzukashii]
  1. 00:12:687 - As I pointed out on Oni,why did you not represent that sound?Also there's a note on Futsuu.
  2. 01:05:628 - I heard strong drum sounds,ddd kkk will reflect the song better.
    Not much complains,looks pretty solid.
[Oni]
  1. 00:12:687 - Why did you ignored this sound?It would be inconsistent to 00:09:549 (44) - and 00:25:236 (100) - .Also when there's no note,it feels empty and there's note on Futsuu.
  2. 00:29:941 (122) - I suggest kat following these reasons:Though you followed the vocal,you should emphasize that rhythm sound which is stronger than others.I heard similar sound at 00:29:549 (119) - and you represent it with kat.It would make the flow better.
  3. 00:32:196 (134,135) - Probably Ctrl+G would be better.00:32:294 - You highlighted this drum sound with kat at 00:31:510 (130) - (Although there are snare sounds,you used ddk instead of kkd at 00:31:510 (130) - ).kdk will be various,so I suggest Ctrl+G for here.
  4. 00:38:863 - There is a sound but I can't distinguish.Probably it is drum sound,why don't you add a note?
  5. 01:04:451 (291,292,293) - This is just question,not a suggestion.Why did you use dkd?Sometimes I see dkd patterns on other maps and I make nothing of that.Please explain for me,so I learn something from you :D
  6. 01:05:236 (297,298,299) - Same above
That's all,good luck Nardo and wmfchris :3
wmfchris

zigizigiefe wrote:

[Wmf's Muzukashii]
  1. You followed drum 'till 00:05:824 (11,12,13) - .It should be dkd according to drum.If you followed something else,you may keep it.
    I have been following the melody around that section, but when it isn't obvious I can always take partial reference to other elements. I think the previous dkdddkd also goes well with the melody as well. To make it clear I will see if dkdkkkd works.
  2. 00:12:687 - As I explained on Nardo's diffs,why did you ignore that sound?
    I look for combinations that accompanies the song well so that's my solution. I deemed that it's the best not to put any notes there to emphasize the single instrumental note, just as what the composer did. (00:09:549 - is the beginning of a section, so you must have a note there; and the instrument was not isolated at 00:25:236 -)
  3. 00:22:098 - It is more intense than others,so you should use more intense patterns.Such as 00:22:687 - you could highlight snare by using kat.Apply on other parts like that for consistency.
    Not exactly sure what do you mean. kddD works properly with the drums. For 00:23:275 - , when you start the new section I want make it slightly denser (but less denser than the kiai part) as a contrast to the replicate section 00:09:549 - . Also I am not precisely mapping to the drums there for sure.
  4. 00:46:216 (119) - Vocal sound stops here and there is no strong drum.No need this note.
    Nope, it's a し sound, just being very soft.

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