yanaginagi - Zoetrope · forum

Realazy

Elite Mapper

Joined June 2011

Topic Starter

Realazy 2017-04-13T22:27:05+00:00

This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on jeudi 10 août 2017 at 00:26:15

Artist: yanaginagi
Title: Zoetrope
Source: AMNESIA
Tags: Akitoshi _83 pyroflayer borborygmos bor yaleufeu Kyuukai Linada Kin エウアル euaru アムネシア opening
BPM: 83
Filesize: 3747kb
Play Time: 01:28
Difficulties Available:

Akitoshi's Advanced (2,76 stars, 191 notes)
bor's Insane (4,24 stars, 262 notes)
Fragmented Memories (5,54 stars, 311 notes)
Kin's Hard (3,43 stars, 243 notes)
Kyuukai's Insane (4,56 stars, 270 notes)
Linada's Expert (5,3 stars, 330 notes)
Normal (1,91 stars, 116 notes)

Download: yanaginagi - Zoetrope
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Akitoshi

Kin

bor

Kyuukai

Linada

bg by 花邑まい

Last edited by Realazy 2019-06-14T12:26:54+00:00, edited 48 times in total.

Sotarks

3,493 posts

Joined May 2014

Sotarks 2017-04-16T10:57:42+00:00

[Extra]
00:28:138 - i want this note to be clickable for the sake there's a kick here, and you can delete 00:28:301 (4) - that one safely since there's no actual beat on this note, it will also make a nice break.
if you accept that (would be nice) remember fixing it everywhere there's this beat, like 00:29:279 (3,4) - 00:31:888 (3,4) - etc etc

01:12:975 (1) - this can be safley replaced by circles to catch the vocals here mate.

00:43:301 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - can you maybe do a clean star pattern here ?

01:00:258 (1,1) - you don't need ncs here since it's part of the same vocal pattern, just remove it safely imo.

01:03:111 - i don't hear any 1/4 here
01:13:464 (3) - ^

[Linada]
00:00:957 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,1,1,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,1,1,1,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,1,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3) - fix overlap.

00:47:866 (4) - replace this by 2 circle to follow correctly the vocals

00:49:171 (4,5,6,7) - the 1/4 are not so strong for a burst like this, how about making 2 kicksliders insted ?

00:50:638 (5,1) - swap ncs
00:53:899 (1) - remove nc

00:56:671 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - why you do such small spacing streams for such big drums snares, you are using the same spacing then your stream previously i asked you to change to kicksliders zz

01:00:258 (1,1) - no need nc here since those are part of the same vocal pattern.

01:20:475 (1,1) - ok so this is really questionnable, first of all why sv change and nc on 01:20:475 (1) - ? and also 01:20:801 (1) - this is bad because first of all you can miss read the 3/4 and it doesn't give ANY emphasis to the hard finish+vocal on it.. rather changing this pattern tbh.

01:21:290 (2,1) - replace this by a 1/2 slider 01:21:453 (1) - hasn't got much impact...

[Kyuukai]
00:26:671 (3,2) - what the actual fuck is this? what are you even trying to follow you are skipping kicks here and ending slider on nothing, that's not good!
00:29:279 (3) - 00:32:703 (2) - 00:34:497 (3) - ^

00:28:627 (1) - same here don't end a reverse on such hard beat ... replace this like that
00:31:236 (1) - 00:33:845 (1) - ^

00:46:236 (8) - replace this by 2 circle to focus claps correctly

00:51:779 (9) - x192 y224 better structure

01:03:682 - better if this would've been clickable
01:04:008 - same why do you skip such vocals pls

01:05:475 (3,4) - don't need a mlg jump here replace this by 1/2 slider 01:05:638 (4) - hasn't got enough impact to be clickable.
01:06:942 (2,3) - ^ same replace to 1/2 slider
01:09:551 (2,3) - ^

01:11:997 (2) - wtf is this ? this is better there's nothing on 01:12:078 - this.

01:13:953 (5) - 2 circles for vocals
01:14:442 - skipping vocals again

01:19:986 (4,5) - 1/2 slider pls

tbh idk about this diff... rythmns are questionnable and structure feels messy..
[]
gl

Kyuukai

1,511 posts

Joined December 2014

Kyuukai 2017-04-16T13:11:52+00:00

Sotarks wrote:
[Kyuukai]
00:26:671 (3,2) - what the actual fuck is this? what are you even trying to follow you are skipping kicks here and ending slider on nothing, that's not good!
00:29:279 (3) - 00:32:703 (2) - 00:34:497 (3) - ^

00:28:627 (1) - same here don't end a reverse on such hard beat ... replace this like that
00:31:236 (1) - 00:33:845 (1) - ^

00:46:236 (8) - replace this by 2 circle to focus claps correctly

00:51:779 (9) - x192 y224 better structure

01:03:682 - better if this would've been clickable
01:04:008 - same why do you skip such vocals pls

01:05:475 (3,4) - don't need a mlg jump here replace this by 1/2 slider 01:05:638 (4) - hasn't got enough impact to be clickable.
01:06:942 (2,3) - ^ same replace to 1/2 slider
01:09:551 (2,3) - ^

01:11:997 (2) - wtf is this ? this is better there's nothing on 01:12:078 - this.

01:13:953 (5) - 2 circles for vocals
01:14:442 - skipping vocals again

01:19:986 (4,5) - 1/2 slider pls

fixed all

tbh idk about this diff... rythmns are questionnable and structure feels messy.. idk about it, guess we'll w/e if I have to rework it or not
[]
ty for modding !

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osu file format v14

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AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 62450
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
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LetterboxInBreaks: 0
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DistanceSpacing: 2.2
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 32
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[Metadata]
Title:Zoetrope (TV Size)
TitleUnicode:Zoetrope (TV Size)
Artist:yanaginagi
ArtistUnicode:やなぎなぎ
Creator:Realazy
Version:Kyuukai's Insane
Source:AMNESIA
Tags:bor yaleufeu Kyuukai Linada Kin エウアル euaru アムネシア opening
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BeatmapSetID:599195

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Linada

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Joined November 2014

Linada 2017-04-16T15:58:06+00:00

Sotarks wrote:
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00:47:866 (4) - replace this by 2 circle to follow correctly the vocals no

00:49:171 (4,5,6,7) - the 1/4 are not so strong for a burst like this, how about making 2 kicksliders insted ? i think its ok but if there are more complaint ill fix

00:50:638 (5,1) - swap ncs fi
00:53:899 (1) - remove nc xed

00:56:671 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - why you do such small spacing streams for such big drums snares, you are using the same spacing then your stream previously i asked you to change to kicksliders zz imo this part of the song fit better with a static movement rathar than a large spacing, especially because claps

01:00:258 (1,1) - no need nc here since those are part of the same vocal pattern. okek

01:20:475 (1,1) - ok so this is really questionnable, first of all why sv change and nc on 01:20:475 (1) - ? and also 01:20:801 (1) - this is bad because first of all you can miss read the 3/4 and it doesn't give ANY emphasis to the hard finish+vocal on it.. rather changing this pattern tbh. changed to 3/4 slinder instead because it just fix the problem and it fit

01:21:290 (2,1) - replace this by a 1/2 slider 01:21:453 (1) - hasn't got much impact... just fixed NC pattenrs

gl

my angel real

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Realazy

Elite Mapper

1,004 posts

Joined June 2011

Topic Starter

Realazy 2017-04-16T17:26:39+00:00

Sotarks wrote:
[Extra]
00:28:138 - i want this note to be clickable for the sake there's a kick here, and you can delete 00:28:301 (4) - that one safely since there's no actual beat on this note, it will also make a nice break.
if you accept that (would be nice) remember fixing it everywhere there's this beat, like 00:29:279 (3,4) - 00:31:888 (3,4) - etc etc this makes sense but there's a beat on 00:28:301 - and i believe mapping it on a sliderend is fine enough since the snare before is much stronger

01:12:975 (1) - this can be safley replaced by circles to catch the vocals here mate. this is fine imo, the slider starts on a stronger note so i can leave a simple vocal on its tail plus having a slider here lets you regain a bit of stamina after the stream

00:43:301 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - can you maybe do a clean star pattern here ? looks nice, done

01:00:258 (1,1) - you don't need ncs here since it's part of the same vocal pattern, just remove it safely imo. done

01:03:111 - i don't hear any 1/4 here alright, removed
01:13:464 (3) - ^ ^

gl

thank you!

anna apple

1,245 posts

Joined March 2014

anna apple 2017-04-18T07:26:17+00:00

pyroflayer to tag

name change xd

MBmasher

580 posts

Joined June 2014

MBmasher 2017-04-28T23:01:48+00:00

my m4m queue

Normal

Don't really have anything to say, except for the beginning. 00:13:969 (2,3) - should be a 1/1 slider like all the others, because this way it doesn't stand out. Since it's a quiet and slow section, it shouldn't stand out.

kin's Hard

00:50:149 (3,4) - Shouldn't these be the same slider like 00:47:540 (3,4) - and 00:48:845 (7,8) -
00:51:453 (3,4) - Shouldn't this be 2 1/2 sliders to follow the pattern
01:00:258 (3,4,1) - Same distance snap but different time spacing?

bor's Insane

Don't you think you should wait until around 00:22 for the spinner, the vocals are still going and it can be mapped.
Otherwise, nice diff.

Kyuukai's Insane

01:10:692 (1,2,1) - awkward jump
01:04:008 (6) - Add NC to be consistent with 01:14:116 (1) -
01:27:812 (7) - maybe space this further away with 6 and 1 so people will know that it is a 1/1 gap, also to emphasize it more.

Linada's Extra

00:32:051 (4,1) - Why aren't these "barely stacked" like all the other 1/1 gaps
00:34:660 (4,1) - ^
most of 00:48 to 00:54 has too large spacing for a quiet part

Extra

Nice diff

remember to mod my map: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/600818

Nice mapset, good luck, and thanks in advance!

Realazy

Elite Mapper

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Joined June 2011

Topic Starter

Realazy 2017-04-28T23:09:10+00:00

MBmasher wrote:
Normal
Don't really have anything to say, except for the beginning. 00:13:969 (2,3) - should be a 1/1 slider like all the others, because this way it doesn't stand out. Since it's a quiet and slow section, it shouldn't stand out. changed the rhythm a bit

Extra
Nice diff fixed thanks

Nice mapset, good luck, and thanks in advance!

thanks for the mod!

Linada

993 posts

Joined November 2014

Linada 2017-04-28T23:13:50+00:00

MBmasher wrote:
Linada's Extra
00:32:051 (4,1) - Why aren't these "barely stacked" like all the other 1/1 gaps the whole map is built around overlaps
00:34:660 (4,1) - ^
most of 00:48 to 00:54 has too large spacing for a quiet part imo its ok

Kyuukai

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Joined December 2014

Kyuukai 2017-04-29T00:55:58+00:00

MBmasher wrote:
Kyuukai's Insane
01:10:692 (1,2,1) - awkward jump
01:04:008 (6) - Add NC to be consistent with 01:14:116 (1) -
01:27:812 (7) - maybe space this further away with 6 and 1 so people will know that it is a 1/1 gap, also to emphasize it more.

fixed all

gya

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anna apple

1,245 posts

Joined March 2014

anna apple 2017-04-29T09:20:53+00:00

MBmasher wrote:
my m4m queue

Don't you think you should wait until around 00:22 for the spinner, the vocals are still going and it can be mapped.
Otherwise, nice diff. this would make sense, though I'm mapping the instrumentals in the intro so the spinner is based on those and to reflect the intensity buildup

anna apple

1,245 posts

Joined March 2014

anna apple 2017-04-29T10:30:00+00:00

Linada wrote:
MBmasher wrote:
Linada's Extra
00:32:051 (4,1) - Why aren't these "barely stacked" like all the other 1/1 gaps the whole map is built around overlaps
00:34:660 (4,1) - ^

Hey I think you missed the point, what MBmasher was trying to say was that you normally have overlaps representing 1/1 gaps like 00:26:834 (4,1) - where you don't move during this gap. They found it was inconsistent 00:32:051 (4,1) - here and 00:34:660 (4,1) - here because for this 1/1 gap you don't have the overlap, instead you have something the size of a 1/2 gap here. The implied suggestion is to make the 1/1 gap at these points the same as the previous 1/1 gaps where you do not have movement because of the overlaps.

MBmasher

580 posts

Joined June 2014

MBmasher 2017-04-29T10:46:34+00:00

pyroflayer wrote:
Hey I think you missed the point, what MBmasher was trying to say was that you normally have overlaps representing 1/1 gaps like 00:26:834 (4,1) - where you don't move during this gap. They found it was inconsistent 00:32:051 (4,1) - here and 00:34:660 (4,1) - here because for this 1/1 gap you don't have the overlap, instead you have something the size of a 1/2 gap here. The implied suggestion is to make the 1/1 gap at these points the same as the previous 1/1 gaps where you do not have movement because of the overlaps.

Yes basically, sorry about not being clear.

Linada

993 posts

Joined November 2014

Linada 2017-04-30T19:30:32+00:00

pyroflayer wrote:
Hey I think you missed the point, what MBmasher was trying to say was that you normally have overlaps representing 1/1 gaps like 00:26:834 (4,1) - where you don't move during this gap. They found it was inconsistent 00:32:051 (4,1) - here and 00:34:660 (4,1) - here because for this 1/1 gap you don't have the overlap, instead you have something the size of a 1/2 gap here. The implied suggestion is to make the 1/1 gap at these points the same as the previous 1/1 gaps where you do not have movement because of the overlaps.

oh sorry i completelly missed the point

it was done on purpose, the first part starting at 00:26:019 (1) - i did the 1/1 gap + overlap on the last note, then when the melody reapeated itself at 00:31:236 (1) - i went doing my 1/1 gaps + overlaps on the previous note to add some diversity, i guess if that's a problem i could make it consistent with the first part if needed

i feel stupid now

anna apple

1,245 posts

Joined March 2014

anna apple 2017-04-30T19:51:01+00:00

Linada wrote:
pyroflayer wrote:
Hey I think you missed the point, what MBmasher was trying to say was that you normally have overlaps representing 1/1 gaps like 00:26:834 (4,1) - where you don't move during this gap. They found it was inconsistent 00:32:051 (4,1) - here and 00:34:660 (4,1) - here because for this 1/1 gap you don't have the overlap, instead you have something the size of a 1/2 gap here. The implied suggestion is to make the 1/1 gap at these points the same as the previous 1/1 gaps where you do not have movement because of the overlaps.
oh sorry i completelly missed the point

it was done on purpose, the first part starting at 00:26:019 (1) - i did the 1/1 gap + overlap on the last note, then when the melody reapeated itself at 00:31:236 (1) - i went doing my 1/1 gaps + overlaps on the previous note to add some diversity, i guess if that's a problem i could make it consistent with the first part if needed

i feel stupid now

I think it creates a problem with cursor pace when you make your 1/1 gaps the same size as 1/2 gaps, this is because you move a certain speed for 1/2 rhythms and then halve that speed for these "disversified" 1/1 gaps.

Linada

993 posts

Joined November 2014

Linada 2017-04-30T19:55:44+00:00

well i guess you're right

fixed

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Pachiru

osu! Alumni

2,957 posts

Joined June 2013

Pachiru 2017-04-30T23:56:45+00:00

[Normal]

00:53:084 (2,3,4) - Je sais pas si c'est une bonne idée de focus sur les vocals ici, parce que ça a l'air d'être un peu "random" si on peut dire ça comme ça en comparant les autres parties de la musiques qui sont focus sur le beat. Sachant que tu reste focus sur du 1/1 pendant toute la partie, je pense que tu devrais garder ce pattern au moins pour cette partie.
01:03:845 (3,1) - Pourquoi sur ces deux sliders, tu ignores les maps en 2/1 et pas en 1/1, c'est quand même une normal diff, sachant que le patterning de la map est pas trop compliqué, pourquoi il faudrait encore plus le simplifier, surtout qu'ici c'est pas le meilleur endroit pour le simplifier selon moi.
01:26:018 (1) - Ca touche pas avec l'HP bar ce slider?

[Hard]
1. 00:10:354 - Je trouve que ça fait bizarre d'ignorer ce vocal, sachant que tu mappes sur tout les vocals dans les parties d'avant
2. 01:21:290 (2,3,1) - Le flow est un peu chelou ici, surtout entre le 01:21:290 (2,3) - essaie de faire un truc avec un angle moins droit pour que ça soit plus simple a jouer
3. Pour revenir au début, pour quelques parties j'ai remarqué que tu utilisais pas un spacing constant, mais je pense que ce serait bien de le faire, et ça rendrait un style plus propre a la part je pense, genre par exemple le spacing ici est pas constant: 00:18:868 (2) - (en général tu utilise du x0.80, mais la c'est du x0.83 et x0.77, donc l'écart est assez élevé). Y'en a d'autres, mais je te laisse check par toi même
  
  [Insane bor]
  1. 00:00:957 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - Try to diversify this pattern, like for instance on each new combos, alternate the pattern side
  2. 00:12:161 (6) - I'm not sure that's a good idea to use a pattern that end on a 1/8 rhythm pattern
  3. 00:13:969 (4) - I think that this slider is weird, because you're ignoring so much vocals that you used to map before in the intro, i think that this slider should be changed in something more "detailed"
  4. 00:42:160 (2,1) - The flow here might be a bit rework, because it's pretty not comfortable to play
  5. 00:45:584 (1) - Why the spacing is so low compared to the rest?
  6. 01:04:008 (1,2) - The flow here might be quite strange imo, the fact that the slider is straight with a reverse angle is pretty strange and it doesn't play very well
  7. 01:10:855 (5,7) - Try to keep a constant spacing with this pattern especially make a constant spacing between those two to fit with the patterning
  8. 01:20:638 (2,3,4,5) - Nerf this part, because its very hard to play, especially with a enormous spacing with these notes: 01:20:638 (2,3) - that is very bigger compared to the rest of the song, plus the direction changes are very hard to fit with the previous bigger spacing
  9. To finish my mod on your diff, I would like to tell you my pov of this diff. Because it got an very interesting concept, because high CS, a lot of SV changes, and an original mapping style that would get close UC's one, and that's pretty nice. Buuuuut there is one point I would to discuss with you, is the rhythm use, for instance sometimes you use clicking point on 1/2 beats and I don't think that it fit well. I'll take for exemple this pattern 00:47:377 (2,3,4,1,2,3) - you miss a lot of beats that deserve to be mapped. (I prefer this part 00:52:105 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2) - because you stay focus on the vocals, while also respecting the beat, so it fit pretty well.) Apart from that, the diff is pretty neat~