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TERRASPEX - AMAZING BREAK

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Monstrata
Elite Mapper: Aspirant
4,642 posts
Joined May 2013
Topic Starter
Monstrata
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on May 20, 2017 at 7:12:28 PM

Artist: TERRASPEX
Title: AMAZING BREAK
Source: TERRA FORMARS
Tags: テラフォーマーズ appleeaterx hobbes2 deppyforce derandom_otaku
BPM: 145
Filesize: 6127kb
Play Time: 03:49
Difficulties Available:
  1. APPLE'S EXPERT (5.11 stars, 1063 notes)
  2. DESPAIR (6.3 stars, 1256 notes)
  3. HOBBES2'S HARD (3.28 stars, 629 notes)
  4. INSANE (4.24 stars, 938 notes)
  5. RENFORCE'S NORMAL (1.94 stars, 364 notes)
Download: TERRASPEX - AMAZING BREAK
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Normal: Ren + Deppy
Hard: Hobbes2
Insane: Me
Extra: apple
Extra: Me
Last edited by Monstrata , edited 28 times in total.
DeRandom Otaku
2,136 posts
Joined November 2014
DeRandom Otaku
Already done lo http://puu.sh/uRNE6/24726a6924.txt
I mapped curve slider , deppy mapped linear ones
Izzywing
osu! Alumni
2,248 posts
Joined March 2016
Izzywing
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EDIt fuck me, sorry monstrata for taking forever
Last edited by Izzywing , edited 1 time in total.
Mint
1,607 posts
Joined February 2013
Mint
its still 48 minutes before may in the netherlands so i made the deadline right
http://puu.sh/vBmTA/3c307c33cf.osu
no hitsounds, can i copy urs thnx
Monstrata
Elite Mapper: Aspirant
4,642 posts
Joined May 2013
Topic Starter
Monstrata
omg this is awesome
Shurelia
Global Moderator
2,771 posts
Joined December 2013
Shurelia
hi.
ignoring HS as requested
what the actual firetruck is this anime
[GeneraL]
  1. based on http://terraformars.tv/annex1/ , prob you should go with "TERRA FORMARS [テラフォーマーズ]"
  2. .mp3 is... you know what to do


[Normal]
  1. the only diff name that aren't all caps . what happen?
  2. gonna also assume that you haven't do any "kiai"'s play now (actually, please do some )
  3. There's a timing issue at this diff, should take a look on it
  4. no matter what, I feel like the spinner is should be on 00:10:731 (1) - instead on 00:14:041 (1) - lol. Since 00:10:834 - have a good and strong vocal sound so it'll be good if people actually do the spin at here instead of the bass section
  5. 01:45:021 (3) - should be NC at here to emphasize the guitar plays more
  6. 03:03:451 (1,2,3) - prob you can make something looks more obvious like https://shurelia.s-ul.eu/bsTFrvOj.png , instead something that have tiny differences than the normal curve sliders
  7. 03:11:882 - dunno why you're ignoring this one tho mapping this would keep the impact for the kiai
  8. 03:18:353 (4) - no idea what's with the sudden undermapping (it's the last chorus too) since you didn't do this on the previous part with the similar song though imo this kind of 03:11:882 (4,5,6,7) - would support the song more better
  9. 03:26:196 (1,2) - do the parallel instead ? since you did one on 02:54:040 (1,2) -
  10. 01:00:903 - same thing, prob mapping this would be ok
  11. 01:07:178 - same , and so on


[Extra A]
  1. 00:09:489 - why you suddenly make a change of mind at here? I mean you did well on mapping the guitar on like 00:07:834 (1,2) - 00:08:662 (2,3) - and then you suddenly stopped mapping
  2. 00:07:834 (1) - pretty unnecessary NC
  3. 00:23:452 (1,3) - miss stack
  4. 00:59:139 (1,2,1) - prob you can do something like https://shurelia.s-ul.eu/gDS87A2z.png to make something more impactful for the oncoming kiai section
  5. 01:45:021 (1) - give more DS would be much better imo cuz it's super strong sound and something right before a spinner , dunno why you giving this a low jump, like try to put it on 200|292
  6. 02:12:080 (1,2,1) - prob you can try to swap 1 and 2 placements for better emphasis to 1 (the brown)
  7. 02:12:472 - you should add kiai the red line too

[Extra M]
  1. 00:27:766 (5) - kinda awkward for me tbh, prob should just go with ctrl g this thing , o if you do agree try to ctrl g 6 too , same suggestion applies to the similar stuff
  2. 01:03:452 (1,3) - mini miss stack
  3. 03:47:764 (3,4) - Aspire? PogChamp
  4. 03:10:510 - add kiai to the red line

good stuffs
Lami
1,756 posts
Joined June 2011
Lami
m4m

Monstrata wrote:

omg this is awesome
normal

00:37:570 (1,2) - would be better ctrl+g, then more follow vocal as well.
01:56:001 (1,2) - same with above ^
00:56:393 (1,2) - dat shape so sharp :/ i think fluid shape more comfortable visual for beginner player.
01:45:021 (3,1) - eh, not good to cover almost slider's tail, at normal diff.
02:28:942 (2,3) - ctrl+G rhythm better, since vocal start at blue tick line. it make weird rhythm as vocal.
02:32:177 (2) - why don't u slider, since there is big gap :/
03:19:137 (5,6,7) - hmm, this triplet circle stacking isn't really uncommon at normal diff, would be better to change to others.
03:34:039 (4,5) - make linear for aesthetic?
03:49:627 - i think that the slider should be end here, as music.

apple

01:22:962 (8,1) - inconsisntent ds?
00:58:550 (1) - 02:10:707 (3) - inconsistent nc
01:28:158 (2,1,1) - not sure this rhythm usage how player can notice properly, 1/2 + 1/3 pretty uncommon
01:39:531 (1,3) - personally, kinda weird feeling, since there is repeating same curve shape.
would be better if avoid that. https://puu.sh/vEsgD.png or etc.
03:08:157 (1) - more down place, would be better if 03:07:961 (2,1) - make same distance with https://puu.sh/vEsuq.png
01:17:570 (1,1) - stack

highest diff

ar 9.6?
i know AR 9.5 is okay for playing. but nowadays player might be want more higher AR, as recently their taste.

00:56:688 (3,4,5) - feel akward flow, imo. would be better, if (5) move to more right place (for circle flow)
00:58:746 (4) - 02:10:903 (1) - inconsistent nc
01:01:688 (4,1) - personally, it feel kinda weird half-stack overlap, about your style. It depend on you
01:10:511 (1) - idk how you think about using speed up SV, cuz you use only this usage in last kiai. second is same.
01:11:688 (5) - , 02:24:628 (1) - consider to set same NC
00:46:491 (2) - 01:58:648 - consider to set consistent rhythm usage. cuz 01:58:648 - beat isn't small, imo.
02:07:962 (2,3,4) - idk how explain it. but i think this linear placement make feel werid for playing. might be better if make slider like 00:55:805 (2) - . yea, just personal thinking, there isn't big deal
02:15:805 (2,3) - i know it's intentional jump, but it kinda feel out of your solid structure.
02:32:472 (1) - im not sure your NC policy. but.... if you put NC which follow strong beat, like 02:31:295 (1,3,1,3) - , 02:32:864 (1,3,1,3) - .
it might be remove is right way? this NC might be weird, since there is no strong beat.
02:34:432 (1) - special shape for express music? like https://puu.sh/vEjwc.png
03:47:764 (3,4) - uh,, snap

good to see alternate mapping
Shiguma
476 posts
Joined May 2014
Shiguma
This bg tho

R & D Normal
00:35:609 (3) - Move to the left so it flows from the slidertail previous to it better
01:12:864 (2) - Should be higher up
01:38:746 (4,5,6) - Suddenly more dense for no apparent reason to me, the song didn't change much for it to be like this imo, aka 01:38:746 (4) - should be a 1/1 slider
02:03:844 (4,5) - Blanket? :thinking:
02:45:412 (3) - Would look nicer without that 5 degree rotation
03:08:157 (3) - Believe this needs to be pushed slightly to the left to make it parallel
03:27:764 (4) - Interesting slider

Apple Expert
00:09:903 (1,2,3) - & 00:10:317 (1,2,3) - shouldn't the spacing between 123 be the same, it looks weird with that 00:10:731 (1) - cuz it's not rly centered
01:09:531 (3,4,1) - That's a pretty big jump to (1) :o
01:16:590 (3,4,1) - This one too, I don't know about these
01:19:139 (1) - 01:21:491 (1) - How are you deciding when to use a slider instead of two circles because it seems arbitrary to me right now as to why these two are sliders instead of circles
03:21:490 (1,2) - This jump is crazy, the spacing is rly large and the flow is kinda weird too

Despair
00:57:374 (3,4) - Isn't this a little weird, 00:57:178 (1,2,3) - thought it would continue to be circular flow
01:07:766 (3,4) - I feel like the sliderheads should have more distance than 01:07:374 (1,2) - do, would follow music better imo
01:11:295 (1,2,3,4,5) - Awkward flow from 01:11:393 (2,3) - maybe making 01:11:295 (1,2,3) - wider would help
01:18:354 (1,2,3) - 01:21:491 (1,2,3) - same sound, but mapped with no jump on (3) the first time, but a jump the second time
01:46:786 (2,3) - could stack 01:46:884 (3) - on the sliderbody of 01:47:374 (1) -
02:05:217 (2) - Should be more spacing cuz the sound was still getting higher in pitch, which i believe is the theme you were doing in 02:03:844 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) -
02:06:001 (5,1) - This is super awkward imo, messes up a lot of the flow cuz of where the (1) is
02:17:177 (1,2,3) - Doesn't look too sexy imo, the one at 03:05:020 (1,2,3) - looks really good as a comparison
02:23:452 (1,2,3,4,5) - I feel like this is just really hard to follow, confusing patterning, like 02:23:452 (1,2) - is fine, but then 02:23:746 (3,4) - with the reduced spacing from 3 to 4 and then the equal spacing between 02:23:648 (2,3,4) - https://puu.sh/vEHZ3/37c24fe741.png made me go wat while trying to play the pattern
02:37:570 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - aww I was hoping for unstacked accelerating streamjumps :( possible to do something like that? it'd be pretty sick
02:42:863 (4) - Shouldn't this be a curved slider
02:57:177 (1,2,1,2) - Shouldn't the jumps be reversed in emphasis with 02:57:177 (1,2) - being the bigger one
03:20:215 (3,4) - My mouse doesn't seem to want to go to the right of 3, maybe 03:20:411 (4) - should go more where 03:20:510 (5) - is instead
03:25:804 (3,4,5,6) - Stream could be more circular/flowy
03:31:686 (1) - Move this so the sliderend has more visual equality with 03:31:490 (5,2) - I also think it'll make it play better if it was more like this or something https://puu.sh/vEIpN/845a106863.png
03:48:941 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - So yea there's that drum backing this and I know you have this pattern but shouldn't it really be decreasing in emphasis? The main instrument doesn't really agree with this pattern imo

Wish I had more to say :(

Good luck, hope to see it ranked soon :)
Monstrata
Elite Mapper: Aspirant
4,642 posts
Joined May 2013
Topic Starter
Monstrata

Shurelia wrote:

hi.
ignoring HS as requested
what the actual firetruck is this anime
[GeneraL]
  1. based on http://terraformars.tv/annex1/ , prob you should go with "TERRA FORMARS [テラフォーマーズ]" both will work, so i'll add this to tags instead.
  2. .mp3 is... you know what to do


[Extra M]
  1. 00:27:766 (5) - kinda awkward for me tbh, prob should just go with ctrl g this thing , o if you do agree try to ctrl g 6 too , same suggestion applies to the similar stuff I like the flowbreak.,
  2. 01:03:452 (1,3) - mini miss stack yea
  3. 03:47:764 (3,4) - Aspire? PogChamp wops
  4. 03:10:510 - add kiai to the red lineyea

good stuffs

Lami wrote:

m4m

Monstrata wrote:

omg this is awesome
highest diff

ar 9.6?
i know AR 9.5 is okay for playing. but nowadays player might be want more higher AR, as recently their taste.

00:56:688 (3,4,5) - feel akward flow, imo. would be better, if (5) move to more right place (for circle flow) Agreed. Fixed
00:58:746 (4) - 02:10:903 (1) - inconsistent nc Fixed kinda they are still inconsistent ish but i think 2nd kiai the NC isn't needed since having those follow points creates a dramatic effect
01:01:688 (4,1) - personally, it feel kinda weird half-stack overlap, about your style. It depend on you Wanted some variation and chaos.
01:10:511 (1) - idk how you think about using speed up SV, cuz you use only this usage in last kiai. second is same. I only do this for the last kiai to make it more difficult since i think having some progression would be nice.
01:11:688 (5) - , 02:24:628 (1) - consider to set same NC Agree
00:46:491 (2) - 01:58:648 - consider to set consistent rhythm usage. cuz 01:58:648 - beat isn't small, imo. I prefer using two different rhythms. it's more interesting for me and creates some variety
02:07:962 (2,3,4) - idk how explain it. but i think this linear placement make feel werid for playing. might be better if make slider like 00:55:805 (2) - . yea, just personal thinking, there isn't big deal Nah i know what you mean. Fixed this.
02:15:805 (2,3) - i know it's intentional jump, but it kinda feel out of your solid structure. I think its fine since 3>4>5 also fits structure
02:32:472 (1) - im not sure your NC policy. but.... if you put NC which follow strong beat, like 02:31:295 (1,3,1,3) - , 02:32:864 (1,3,1,3) - . Current NC'ing is better imo. its quite complicated here, i'm NC'ing based on 3/4 rhythms and theres a polarity shift in the middle which throws things off a bit
it might be remove is right way? this NC might be weird, since there is no strong beat.
02:34:432 (1) - special shape for express music? like https://puu.sh/vEjwc.png I prefer pattern consistency.
03:47:764 (3,4) - uh,, snap my bad

good to see alternate mapping

Shiguma wrote:

This bg tho

Despair
00:57:374 (3,4) - Isn't this a little weird, 00:57:178 (1,2,3) - thought it would continue to be circular flow It does. The placement of 5 causes players to not consider the direction of slider 4 as sharply.
01:07:766 (3,4) - I feel like the sliderheads should have more distance than 01:07:374 (1,2) - do, would follow music better imoEhh I think its fine theyre more or less the same.
01:11:295 (1,2,3,4,5) - Awkward flow from 01:11:393 (2,3) - maybe making 01:11:295 (1,2,3) - wider would help i think the flow is fine here,
120 degree movement is enough for players to transition from counter, to clockwise flow
01:18:354 (1,2,3) - 01:21:491 (1,2,3) - same sound, but mapped with no jump on (3) the first time, but a jump the second time Fixed.
01:46:786 (2,3) - could stack 01:46:884 (3) - on the sliderbody of 01:47:374 (1) - Not possible to implement this mathematically imo... without messing up a lot of patterns down the road.
02:05:217 (2) - Should be more spacing cuz the sound was still getting higher in pitch, which i believe is the theme you were doing in 02:03:844 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - Agreed. Fixed
02:06:001 (5,1) - This is super awkward imo, messes up a lot of the flow cuz of where the (1) is Okay, i used curvier sliders to facilitate better flow
02:17:177 (1,2,3) - Doesn't look too sexy imo, the one at 03:05:020 (1,2,3) - looks really good as a comparison Ehh, i think its fine. and i really like the flowbreak.
02:23:452 (1,2,3,4,5) - I feel like this is just really hard to follow, confusing patterning, like 02:23:452 (1,2) - is fine, but then 02:23:746 (3,4) - with the reduced spacing from 3 to 4 and then the equal spacing between 02:23:648 (2,3,4) - https://puu.sh/vEHZ3/37c24fe741.png made me go wat while trying to play the pattern Idk. I think this pattern is fine because 3 brings a flowbreak to the table that is much sharper than the rest of the jumps which compensates for some of the spacing.
02:37:570 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - aww I was hoping for unstacked accelerating streamjumps :( possible to do something like that? it'd be pretty sick This is better :D
02:42:863 (4) - Shouldn't this be a curved slider Linear is fine
02:57:177 (1,2,1,2) - Shouldn't the jumps be reversed in emphasis with 02:57:177 (1,2) - being the bigger one Mmm... I think this is fine.
I don't think the first is bigger. its just a difference of opinions here i guess
03:20:215 (3,4) - My mouse doesn't seem to want to go to the right of 3, maybe 03:20:411 (4) - should go more where 03:20:510 (5) - is instead Hard to say definitively. i'll look at more testplays, but I think the rightward movement is very little anyways.
03:25:804 (3,4,5,6) - Stream could be more circular/flowy I think it's sufficient. This is circular/flowy too just a bit sharper cuz its 144 degrees
03:31:686 (1) - Move this so the sliderend has more visual equality with 03:31:490 (5,2) - I also think it'll make it play better if it was more like this or something https://puu.sh/vEIpN/845a106863.png Really hard to implement imo while maintaining structure. I think this is fine D:
03:48:941 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - So yea there's that drum backing this and I know you have this pattern but shouldn't it really be decreasing in emphasis? The main instrument doesn't really agree with this pattern imo Why would it be decreasing in emphasis? There's really no justification for increasing or decreasing actually. I just use increase for difficulty and ending on a strong note. but listen to the individual beats, and they don't suggest that the notes are any louder or softer. Also, musically a scale going up or down doesn't correlate with intensity anyways.

Wish I had more to say :(

Good luck, hope to see it ranked soon :)
Thanks for the mods everyone!!
Mint
1,607 posts
Joined February 2013
Mint

Shurelia wrote:

[Extra A]
  1. 00:09:489 - why you suddenly make a change of mind at here? I mean you did well on mapping the guitar on like 00:07:834 (1,2) - 00:08:662 (2,3) - and then you suddenly stopped mapping // Due to the snap change (1/4 -> 1/6) I feel that if I didn't put a break here and just continued mapping 1/6, the transition to 1/4 would be practically nonexistant.
  2. 00:07:834 (1) - pretty unnecessary NC // Snap change (1/4 -> 1/6).
  3. 00:23:452 (1,3) - miss stack // yes
  4. 00:59:139 (1,2,1) - prob you can do something like https://shurelia.s-ul.eu/gDS87A2z.png to make something more impactful for the oncoming kiai section // Due to large SV difference I feel putting them closer is better. Only the last KIAI has somewhat larger spacing, but visual spacing between objects still stays the same.
  5. 01:45:021 (1) - give more DS would be much better imo cuz it's super strong sound and something right before a spinner , dunno why you giving this a low jump, like try to put it on 200|292 // I almost never use circle -> circle jump tho? That is really hard to hit with double BPM mapping style, so even if the spacing looks not that big, it plays totally different. Therefore, I think current pattern gives sufficient emphasis.
  6. 02:12:080 (1,2,1) - prob you can try to swap 1 and 2 placements for better emphasis to 1 (the brown) // not sure whether your pattern is better or mine ... ill keep for now
  7. 02:12:472 - you should add kiai the red line too // yes

Lami wrote:

apple

01:22:962 (8,1) - inconsisntent ds? // woa good catch
00:58:550 (1) - 02:10:707 (3) - inconsistent nc // yes
01:28:158 (2,1,1) - not sure this rhythm usage how player can notice properly, 1/2 + 1/3 pretty uncommon // had my doubts on this too, changed then (later combo too)
01:39:531 (1,3) - personally, kinda weird feeling, since there is repeating same curve shape. // i think this is fine tho, the spacing from previous objects is pretty large so this shouldnt be harsh or anything
would be better if avoid that. https://puu.sh/vEsgD.png or etc.
03:08:157 (1) - more down place, would be better if 03:07:961 (2,1) - make same distance with https://puu.sh/vEsuq.png // yes
01:17:570 (1,1) - stack // yes

Shiguma wrote:

[Apple Expert]
00:09:903 (1,2,3) - & 00:10:317 (1,2,3) - shouldn't the spacing between 123 be the same, it looks weird with that 00:10:731 (1) - cuz it's not rly centered // honestly i suck at stuff like perfect ds etc. fixed
01:09:531 (3,4,1) - That's a pretty big jump to (1) :o // but the jump is between (2,3,4) which can profit from slider leniency... i think this is a good and more player-friendly way to introduce the spaced 1/4 after this
01:16:590 (3,4,1) - This one too, I don't know about these //'same as above, but this one i reduced a little
01:19:139 (1) - 01:21:491 (1) - How are you deciding when to use a slider instead of two circles because it seems arbitrary to me right now as to why these two are sliders instead of circles // u have a point but i just put sliders where it fits structure only, not rhythmically. i think if i repeated same rhythm itd be very boring and i would have much options for placement, maybe will change later
03:21:490 (1,2) - This jump is crazy, the spacing is rly large and the flow is kinda weird too // dont agree with this one. flow is generally back and forth which makes it much easier and this spacing has been used in previous kiai too, but just a tad smaller. also slider -> note is so much easier than it looks now

thanks!! http://puu.sh/vFbuX/aef7ded8c4.osu
Izzywing
osu! Alumni
2,248 posts
Joined March 2016
Izzywing
Sorry for being so late :( I'll ask some friends to IRC mod this tomorrow to speed up the modding process a bit.

No hitsounds, i'll just copy yours if thats ok :O

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Monstrata
Elite Mapper: Aspirant
4,642 posts
Joined May 2013
Topic Starter
Monstrata
Okay all updated!

I'll finish hitsounding tomorrow, and I'll get the Insane done by the 11th. If anyone pro wants to collab Insane with me Poke me! I won't be working on it until i finish hitsounds.
Deppyforce
1,961 posts
Joined November 2014
Deppyforce
hi sorry for late got rekt by 400 hrs silence

Shurelia wrote:

[Normal]
  1. the only diff name that aren't all caps . what happen? no idea
  2. gonna also assume that you haven't do any "kiai"'s play now (actually, please do some ) will talk with ren about that
  3. There's a timing issue at this diff, should take a look on it fixed
    fixed tags also
  4. 03:03:451 (1,2,3) - prob you can make something looks more obvious like https://shurelia.s-ul.eu/bsTFrvOj.png , instead something that have tiny differences than the normal curve sliders yes
  5. 03:11:882 - dunno why you're ignoring this one tho mapping this would keep the impact for the kiai mapping vocals and theres a long 1/2 train after it?
  6. 03:18:353 (4) - no idea what's with the sudden undermapping (it's the last chorus too) since you didn't do this on the previous part with the similar song though imo this kind of 03:11:882 (4,5,6,7) - would support the song more better ok did something
  7. 03:26:196 (1,2) - do the parallel instead ? since you did one on 02:54:040 (1,2) - na i think the vocals are kinda 'going up' here

Lami wrote:

normal
03:19:137 (5,6,7) - hmm, this triplet circle stacking isn't really uncommon at normal diff, would be better to change to others. did something
03:34:039 (4,5) - make linear for aesthetic? no i like how cursor moves more if i do this
03:49:627 - i think that the slider should be end here, as music. my bad

Shiguma wrote:

03:08:157 (3) - Believe this needs to be pushed slightly to the left to make it parallel since i changed the pattern cuz edited slider shape in shurelia's mod it doent matter now lool
03:27:764 (4) - Interesting slider thanks
thanks

updat
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Version:Ren vs. Deppy's Normal
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142,278,163843,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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Shmiklak
Elite Storyboarder
3,218 posts
Joined January 2015
Shmiklak
m4m
[General]
  1. 03:10:510 - imo this is the strongest part in the song and it MUST be emphasised by kiai time
    applies for normal and hard
  2. in my opinion gap between hard and normal is really heavy. you should add an Advanced diff to fill it
[Hard]
  1. 00:09:903 (3) - your DS in this part is 1.6, so please, move this slider a bit to make DS nearer from 1.6 because in my opinion 1.54 is nearer to 1.5 than 1.6
  2. 00:49:433 (1) - I don't think that NCing of this object is a good idea because you always placed NCs on big white ticks so in my opinion you should also follow this logic here
  3. 01:09:237 (2) - this one overlaps with HP bar, as we know from RC:
    Avoid overlapping hitobjects with other elements of the default and beatmap-specific skins. This refers to all elements that are part of the interface and can be skinned.
    so in this case would be better if you fix this overlap, also I suggest to to fix this overlap with UI elements:
    01:26:197 (1) -
[INSANE]
  1. 01:30:903 - I suggest you to map this part because even Normal diff has this part mapped and this part is also similar to the next part so I dont see reasons to put a break here
  2. 00:43:452 (5,6) - this overlap is really ugly. don't you think that this overlap could be avoided?
  3. 02:16:393 (1,2) - imo ds between these objects is too low so this can be read not as 1/2
I didn't find anything else, good map. Good luck!
Monstrata
Elite Mapper: Aspirant
4,642 posts
Joined May 2013
Topic Starter
Monstrata

Shmiklak wrote:

m4m
[General]
  1. 03:10:510 - imo this is the strongest part in the song and it MUST be emphasised by kiai time True. I'll add them.
    applies for normal and hard
  2. in my opinion gap between hard and normal is really heavy. you should add an Advanced diff to fill it The gaps are larger than usual,
    but the spread is fine. A regular spread would be like : N > > H > > I > > X , this set goes more like N > > > H > > > I > > > I > X. The gaps between each diff is just larger than normal. As you can see, the gap from Hard to Insane is a bit large too, despite the star rating being small. Hard introduces basic doublet rhythm and light 1/4's. Insane uses full 1/4 patterning but in a very introductory manner, and very rarely uses polarity shifts. The SV increases a lot to introduce basic alternator mechanics, though you could at this point play the map regularly, and aren't really forced to specifically alternate due to polarity shifts. The gap from Insane to Expert is also similarly larger than normal since apple introduces 1/4 circle-jump patterns and sharp angles. The major difference between Insane and Expert is that on Expert, you are forced to alternate due to the complex rhythm choice. And this ultimately prepares the player for the highest diff. Insane and Expert are a lot harder than their star ratings imo. The spread should look more like 2.00 > 3.4 > 4.8 > 6.0 > 6.7 or something, if you considered the actual difficulty of Insane/Expert.
[Hard]
  1. 00:09:903 (3) - your DS in this part is 1.6, so please, move this slider a bit to make DS nearer from 1.6 because in my opinion 1.54 is nearer to 1.5 than 1.6
  2. 00:49:433 (1) - I don't think that NCing of this object is a good idea because you always placed NCs on big white ticks so in my opinion you should also follow this logic here
  3. 01:09:237 (2) - this one overlaps with HP bar, as we know from RC:
    Avoid overlapping hitobjects with other elements of the default and beatmap-specific skins. This refers to all elements that are part of the interface and can be skinned.
    so in this case would be better if you fix this overlap, also I suggest to to fix this overlap with UI elements:
    01:26:197 (1) -
[INSANE]
  1. 01:30:903 - I suggest you to map this part because even Normal diff has this part mapped and this part is also similar to the next part so I dont see reasons to put a break here I think a break just fits pretty well here. Normal was mapped by someone else and they had a different opinion on this section I guess.
  2. 00:43:452 (5,6) - this overlap is really ugly. don't you think that this overlap could be avoided? I think this overlap is fine.
  3. 02:16:393 (1,2) - imo ds between these objects is too low so this can be read not as 1/2 Agreed. Fixed~
I didn't find anything else, good map. Good luck!
Thanks for the mod!
Pata-Mon
1,489 posts
Joined March 2015
Pata-Mon
M4M from your q
My map is this but EZ is still wip, can I call you after it finished? xD

[Normal]
  1. 00:34:433 (1,2,3) - 00:36:001 (4,5,6) - 00:39:139 (3,4,5) - …… and 01:52:864 (1,2,3) - 01:54:433 (4,5,6) - should use similar rhythm
  2. 02:09:335 - 02:09:629 (2,3) - maybe a reserve slider instead
  3. 02:32:177 - 02:33:746 - use slider on blue line rhythm would be better
[hard]
  1. 00:52:864 - this sound is different from 00:51:688 - ~ 00:52:570 - , so I suggest https://puu.sh/vPw3n/9cb173425b.png
  2. 01:09:237 (2) - touch hp bar
  3. 02:03:844 (1,2) - ^^
[Insane]
  1. 01:28:158 (2) - nc for rhythm changed
[EXPERT]
  1. 01:14:433 (9,10,11,12) - change to slider for vocal?
  2. 01:57:276 (1,2) - rhythm is a bit weird... try this https://puu.sh/vPwRv/d8540be59e.png
  3. 02:46:589 (1) - two 1/4 slider instead?
[DESPAIR]
  1. 01:28:158 (2) - same as insane
  2. 02:59:922 (4) - this sound is different from 02:58:745 (1,2,3) - . Maybe use 1/2 slider or change sv or sth
  3. 03:03:451 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5) - wow cool
GL
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Monstrata
Elite Mapper: Aspirant
4,642 posts
Joined May 2013
Topic Starter
Monstrata
Ren + Deppy

Add kiai please thanks.

Hobbes2

Don't forget last kiai
00:06:800 (2) - should be 1/6
01:27:766 (1,2,3,4,5) - snaps are wrong. see how I snapped them on Insane/Despair, thats the most accurate imo. apple's is also fine, but his is probably too complex.
02:46:196 (1,2) - You should ctrl+g this rhythm since the guitar riff is delayed until 02:46:589 - imo. check the snapping on other diffs and compare.
01:24:629 (1) - etc... I think its better to remove one of the repeats. The hold is very demanding imo and it's easy to break.
03:41:882 (1) - ^

Apple

00:03:075 (2) - should be 1/3 like everything else. The vocal isn't on red tick its on purple/pink/whatever tick 1/3 is.
02:36:981 (1) - should be 1/6
03:45:281 (1,2) - I feel like this is a bit too early? like consider the note on 03:45:411 - which is mapped to a repeat.
03:45:804 (1,2,3) - Snapping should be 1/3. 03:46:392 (3) - definitely sounds too late. the slider in the middle is sliiightly off but i think that's just the song.
Mint
1,607 posts
Joined February 2013
Mint

Pata-Mon wrote:

[EXPERT]
  1. 01:14:433 (9,10,11,12) - change to slider for vocal? // would result in too many sliders and destroying the purpose of stream section. i still think this is okay, due to the pitch change. i did do this in later section, because that part is longer, thus more notes
  2. 01:57:276 (1,2) - rhythm is a bit weird... try this https://puu.sh/vPwRv/d8540be59e.png // good idea
  3. 02:46:589 (1) - two 1/4 slider instead? // nah current puts emphasis on guitar better imo

Monstrata wrote:

Apple
00:03:075 (2) - should be 1/3 like everything else. The vocal isn't on red tick its on purple/pink/whatever tick 1/3 is. // really? 1/3 is way too late for me. to me, the "ra" vocal is much much closer to 1/2...
02:36:981 (1) - should be 1/6 // agree, but the timing here is off. listen to first beat (red tick) and you can notice offset shift. changed to 1/6, but you probably need offset shift here
03:45:281 (1,2) - I feel like this is a bit too early? like consider the note on 03:45:411 - which is mapped to a repeat. // made 1/4 + 1/2 instead
03:45:804 (1,2,3) - Snapping should be 1/3. 03:46:392 (3) - definitely sounds too late. the slider in the middle is sliiightly off but i think that's just the song. // follow drum now instead (1/4)
thanks!! http://puu.sh/vPAsb/60dfa5aa6e.osu
DeRandom Otaku
2,136 posts
Joined November 2014
DeRandom Otaku

Shurelia wrote:

hi.
ignoring HS as requested
what the actual firetruck is this anime
[GeneraL]
  1. based on http://terraformars.tv/annex1/ , prob you should go with "TERRA FORMARS [テラフォーマーズ]"
  2. .mp3 is... you know what to do


[Normal]
  1. the only diff name that aren't all caps . what happen? i will leave this to deppy and monstrata
  2. gonna also assume that you haven't do any "kiai"'s play now (actually, please do some )
  3. There's a timing issue at this diff, should take a look on it
  4. no matter what, I feel like the spinner is should be on 00:10:731 (1) - instead on 00:14:041 (1) - lol. Since 00:10:834 - have a good and strong vocal sound so it'll be good if people actually do the spin at here instead of the bass section i prefer it this way
  5. 01:45:021 (3) - should be NC at here to emphasize the guitar plays more
  6. 01:00:903 - same thing, prob mapping this would be ok its not as strong as the stuff going on on its surrounding also adding a circle here would make the chain pretty dense
  7. 01:07:178 - same , and so on

Lami wrote:

m4m

normal

00:37:570 (1,2) - would be better ctrl+g, then more follow vocal as well. The current rhythm fits much better owo
01:56:001 (1,2) - same with above ^ same
00:56:393 (1,2) - dat shape so sharp :/ i think fluid shape more comfortable visual for beginner player. well i m not aiming for any other shape than curved because its the gimmick of this diff, if i make it more curved its gonna look cramped , if i make it less curved its gonna make bad overlap
01:45:021 (3,1) - eh, not good to cover almost slider's tail, at normal diff.ye i m doubtful on this one as well, u got any suggestion?
02:28:942 (2,3) - ctrl+G rhythm better, since vocal start at blue tick line. it make weird rhythm as vocal.
02:32:177 (2) - why don't u slider, since there is big gap :/ well i m not following vocals that is

good to see alternate mapping

Shiguma wrote:

This bg tho

R & D Normal
00:35:609 (3) - Move to the left so it flows from the slidertail previous to it better
01:12:864 (2) - Should be higher up dont want it to be close to 01:12:080 (1) - because that would look bad
01:38:746 (4,5,6) - Suddenly more dense for no apparent reason to me, the song didn't change much for it to be like this imo, aka 01:38:746 (4) - should be a 1/1 slider The song does go intenser than before and its the same thing i did in first part of the song
02:03:844 (4,5) - Blanket? :thinking: whats wrong with linear flow owo

Good luck, hope to see it ranked soon :)

Pata-Mon wrote:

M4M from your q
My map is this but EZ is still wip, can I call you after it finished? xD

[Normal]
  1. 00:34:433 (1,2,3) - 00:36:001 (4,5,6) - 00:39:139 (3,4,5) - …… and 01:52:864 (1,2,3) - 01:54:433 (4,5,6) - should use similar rhythm well i kinda did it for variation ,both rhythms fit properly, The first part has similar rhythm in all patterns and the second pattern has similar rhythms in the patterns but i might change if someone else complains
  2. 02:09:335 - 02:09:629 (2,3) - maybe a reserve slider instead i wanted to make them circles here for a lil bit of a challenge because the song is p intense here
  3. 02:32:177 - 02:33:746 - use slider on blue line rhythm would be better i m not following vocals here so having a slider would sound kinda weird

GL
Thank you all!
http://puu.sh/vPDV1/2019927ca5.txt

@Monstrata , Added kiai yes.
Also i will leave the diff naming to you and deppy. Change to anything you come up with lol because i cant think of anything nice w
Izzywing
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Joined March 2016
Izzywing
Fixed all but

@patamon, 00:51:688 (1,2) - I didn't want to break polarity here, so i added an extra reverse to keep the 1/2 gaps.

Thanks everyone!

https://pastebin.com/raw/hBGsupu0
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