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This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 05 August 2017 at 22:33:34

Artist: Culprate
Title: Diablo (VIP)
Tags: dnb d&b drum n and & bass electronic instrumental edm idm inspected glados ep sheela appleeaterx
BPM: 172
Filesize: 3553kb
Play Time: 01:43
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Normal: Ore Da
Advanced: Ore Da
Hard: sheela
Insane: appleeaterx
Expert: Ore Da
(!) Expert contains really high velocity sliders (!)
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Very nice Expert diff! The sliders shapes at the begining looks quite repetitive, but otherwise, there is a solid work with the SV! I really like the Expert one :)
Hope you'll push it into ranked state :)
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Very nice Expert diff! The sliders shapes at the begining looks quite repetitive, but otherwise, there is a solid work with the SV! I really like the Expert one :)
Hope you'll push it into ranked state :)

I will thank you -3-
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expert
-hitsounds at the intro, plz
-00:24:747 (2) - the whole combo feels like unified(? except for this object, it goes nowhere with the flow or structure. kinda ugly example http://puu.sh/wImyx/5d57523344.jpg but you get the idea xd
-would be cool if 00:44:631 (1,1,1,1) - were spaced increasingly more as the pitch increases as well
-00:57:538 (1,1) - you do a lot of 1/2 when there's a hold except on these spots, sounds kinda awkward to me.. 1/2 would be better and even a triple on the second one like you do on others places like 01:03:817 (1,2,1) - or more similar 01:14:980 (1,2,1) -
-01:10:358 - looks like you forgot to add a note, otherwise it's a weird pause by how you map the whole kiai uhmm
-01:11:491 (1,2,3,4,1) - vs 01:17:073 (1,2,3,4,1) - could you not use the same angle? xd
-01:19:166 - slowing down from 2x to 1x doesnt feel too nice, consider using 1.5 on this slider maybe so the next one is easier to catch
-01:24:224 (1,1) - may as well blanket these and with 01:25:096 (2) - aswell, but that's just me probably heh
-didnt like these two 01:19:864 (2,1) - 01:41:840 (3,4,5) - as the end section is rather slow, you make these 'jumps' when nothing happens uh

apple
-00:24:050 (3,1) - dont you think it's a bit too much? altho i prefer a pause on 00:24:398 - , the vocal thing stops here so it'd fit nice i think
-00:57:189 (1,2) - may as well make these 1/3 as you do with 00:58:584 (1) - which is kinda similar
-01:09:747 (1,2) - multireverse...these are a pain cuz you think it's a 1/4 gap but it's 1/2 aaaa remove one repeater and add a 1/2 slider?
-01:10:707 - stronger kick of all but ignored, what apple is it
-01:31:201 (1) - unsnapped

sheela
-tags
-01:01:201 (5,1) - spacing them like you did before 00:55:619 (2,1) - sounds better for the big clash
-01:04:864 (3,1) - i believe these shoud be more apart. 1.3x~

normal
-00:25:096 (5) - add nc?
-00:44:631 (4) - nc for the rhythm change?
-not sure if you havent done the real normal but this is more like an easy. or if you were afraid of the normal as the lowest diff, you should still use some 1/2 from now and then. for instance here 01:24:747 (2,3) - could've been https://puu.sh/wInMR/9d4a822148.jpg simple rhythm but still adds difficulty

vip
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expert
-hitsounds at the intro, plz There are finishes on the big sweepy white noise impacts. I think adding more would be overdoing it.
-00:24:747 (2) - the whole combo feels like unified(? except for this object, it goes nowhere with the flow or structure. kinda ugly example http://puu.sh/wImyx/5d57523344.jpg but you get the idea xd Doesn't create the movement I want. It's fine how it is for me.
-would be cool if 00:44:631 (1,1,1,1) - were spaced increasingly more as the pitch increases as well Uhh the pitches are the same? Both for the vocals and the drums.
-00:57:538 (1,1) - you do a lot of 1/2 when there's a hold except on these spots, sounds kinda awkward to me.. 1/2 would be better and even a triple on the second one like you do on others places like 01:03:817 (1,2,1) - or more similar 01:14:980 (1,2,1) - They're 2 different rhythms with 2 very different sounds.
-01:10:358 - looks like you forgot to add a note, otherwise it's a weird pause by how you map the whole kiai uhmm Nope. The sound on the blue tick is just a part of the wub on the red 01:10:271 (3) - I don't deem the modulation prominent enough to require being actively mapped. And the pause works nicely to put more emphasis on the burst into chaos from 01:10:445 (4) -
-01:11:491 (1,2,3,4,1) - vs 01:17:073 (1,2,3,4,1) - could you not use the same angle? xd Sure
-01:19:166 - slowing down from 2x to 1x doesnt feel too nice, consider using 1.5 on this slider maybe so the next one is easier to catch It's not meant to feel nice. The sound on that slider's really grainy and low in pitch compared to everything else and has a resistive quality to it which i express through the slow slider of which resists the players movement and momentum.
-01:24:224 (1,1) - may as well blanket these and with 01:25:096 (2) - aswell, but that's just me probably heh ye
-didnt like these two 01:19:864 (2,1) - 01:41:840 (3,4,5) - as the end section is rather slow, you make these 'jumps' when nothing happens uh I'm trying to express the punch on the kick drum 01:42:189 - and you did make me realize 01:20:212 (3) - that's meant to land on a 1/3

normal
-00:25:096 (5) - add nc?
-00:44:631 (4) - nc for the rhythm change?
-not sure if you havent done the real normal but this is more like an easy. or if you were afraid of the normal as the lowest diff, you should still use some 1/2 from now and then. for instance here 01:24:747 (2,3) - could've been https://puu.sh/wInMR/9d4a822148.jpg simple rhythm but still adds difficulty Yeah I'm aware of the diff spread issues. I've done normals before but doing one for this song was new for me. I'm in the process of remapping it and it seems to be comming along good so far. Soz should have mentioned that in the post.

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from my q (m4m)
sorry for delay

I'm not good at English seriously so I may have said nonsense.


General
  • Unused hitsounds:
    drum-hitwhistle2.wav
  • I think Apple's difficulty is overall more difficult and cool than Diablo difficulty cuz apple's diff is more creative, structured and some other reasons. this is fatal because Diablo diff is the highest difficulty. this is not something I want to despise, but I think it's real.


Diablo
  • 01:29:282 - ~ 01:31:898 - This part is pretty easy when compared to other(01:23:701 - etc etc) parts. ok I know, there is some reason for that. I mean that's just a matter of degree.
  • 00:24:398 - How about using slower sv here? (a sense of speed? I don't know how to express this word in English. D; The point is to give more power to this 00:24:747 (2) - slider.)
  • 00:46:724 (1,2) - Change these sliders to 3/4 and mute the sliderends. I think this is a way to express vocals more exactly.
  • 01:11:491 (1,2,3,4,1) - etc, These things are very strange to me. I don't really know the intent of this.
  • 01:43:236 - Add sth


apple
  • n0thing. it's done perfectly imo.


sheela
  • 00:03:468 (3) - 00:06:259 (3) - 00:09:050 (3) - Ok, You have increased the distance for emphasis, right? but they lack the "structure" and the disctances are really ambiguous I guess. I hope you rather increase the distance between them and make them more structured.
  • nice map


Normal
  • 00:13:933 - Can you change this place to clickable?
  • 01:25:096 - I think you can add a note here
  • gooood

that's all from me
neat mapset as always, good luck :D
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from my q (m4m)
sorry for delay

I'm not good at English seriously so I may have said nonsense.


General
  • Unused hitsounds:
    drum-hitwhistle2.wav Idk why that's there
  • I think Apple's difficulty is overall more difficult and cool than Diablo difficulty cuz apple's diff is more creative, structured and some other reasons. this is fatal because Diablo diff is the highest difficulty. this is not something I want to despise, but I think it's real. I don't know what to say to that other than it's not. lol


Diablo
  • 01:29:282 - ~ 01:31:898 - This part is pretty easy when compared to other(01:23:701 - etc etc) parts. ok I know, there is some reason for that. I mean that's just a matter of degree. Yeah that's cause you don't have the cow bell sounds 01:25:271 (1) - in the second part.
  • 00:24:398 - How about using slower sv here? (a sense of speed? I don't know how to express this word in English. D; The point is to give more power to this 00:24:747 (2) - slider.) Nope I don't think that's appropriate.
  • 00:46:724 (1,2) - Change these sliders to 3/4 and mute the sliderends. I think this is a way to express vocals more exactly. I don't see how that does.
  • 01:11:491 (1,2,3,4,1) - etc, These things are very strange to me. I don't really know the intent of this. To put emphasis on 01:11:840 (1) -
  • 01:43:236 - Add sth Nah. I like the way the score screen comes up just as that sound occurs.


Normal
  • 00:13:933 - Can you change this place to clickable?
  • 01:25:096 - I think you can add a note here
  • gooood
Did you even make sure the diffs were up to date before you modded? I'm remapping this.

that's all from me
neat mapset as always, good luck :D
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Diablo
00:23:701 (1,2,3,4) - hmmmmm. I don't think that spacing is the way to go here, and different sliders and such. Since the oiii is repeated like 4 times, I would expect something like this 01:23:701 (1,1,1,1) -
00:50:910 (3,1) - okay so basically i'm a little bit against these huge ass jumps. It is still 1/4 after a note, and the SV on kickslider is already extreme as it is. Nor do I find a reason to have this 00:51:084 (1) - so emphasized, when its not really a special sound.
00:56:666 (1,2,3) - ^
01:13:236 (1,1,4,1) - this is the spacing i recommend maybe a bit higher.
00:51:608 (1) - to make them look different from usual 1/4 straight sliders, as a form of differentiation and putting some ideas into the players where' they currently are in the song, I suggest making all of these sounds like you did 00:53:003 (1) - 00:50:212 (1) -
01:10:096 (3,4) - don't you think that this spacing is too low for 1/2 timing after a slider?
01:18:468 (1,2) - way too big spacing out of nowhere tbh, compare it to this 01:12:887 (1,2) -

Also adding it now, but it seems that spacing is a bit inconsistent 00:56:143 (1,2,3) - for example you give big spacing from 1 to 2, but small spacing from 2 to 3 01:07:305 (1,2,3) - here it is completely opposite 00:50:561 (1,2,3) - here it's essentially all the same. So I recommend planning it a bit more, the most logic solution is to give (3) always the biggest jump or something as it contains a clap.
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Diablo
00:23:701 (1,2,3,4) - hmmmmm. I don't think that spacing is the way to go here, and different sliders and such. Since the oiii is repeated like 4 times, I would expect something like this 01:23:701 (1,1,1,1) - That kind of movement is completely inappropriate here.
00:50:910 (3,1) - okay so basically i'm a little bit against these huge ass jumps. It is still 1/4 after a note, and the SV on kickslider is already extreme as it is. Nor do I find a reason to have this 00:51:084 (1) - so emphasized, when its not really a special sound. It's really not a 1/4 cause of slider leniency. And the point of the spacing is to create a lot of momentum before the triple so there's a lot of deceleration on those notes. It works nicely with the grainyness of the wubs.
00:56:666 (1,2,3) - ^
01:13:236 (1,1,4,1) - this is the spacing i recommend maybe a bit higher. What?
00:51:608 (1) - to make them look different from usual 1/4 straight sliders, as a form of differentiation and putting some ideas into the players where' they currently are in the song, I suggest making all of these sounds like you did 00:53:003 (1) - 00:50:212 (1) - There's literally no logic to my aesthetics. Everything's designed around movement and the aesthetics are just there to make stuff look nice. So for that reason I don't see a reason to try and put logic in now. If you do then you're creating inconsistencies because well some parts will follow a logic and others wont. If nothing follows anything then there's no inconsistencies.
01:10:096 (3,4) - don't you think that this spacing is too low for 1/2 timing after a slider? Nope. The sounds at the beginning are a bit mute.
01:18:468 (1,2) - way too big spacing out of nowhere tbh, compare it to this 01:12:887 (1,2) - Notice how the pitch on the second pair is much higher. Higher pitch usually gives a sense of speed which I'm trying to recreate in the sliders.

Also adding it now, but it seems that spacing is a bit inconsistent 00:56:143 (1,2,3) - for example you give big spacing from 1 to 2, but small spacing from 2 to 3 01:07:305 (1,2,3) - here it is completely opposite 00:50:561 (1,2,3) - here it's essentially all the same. So I recommend planning it a bit more, the most logic solution is to give (3) always the biggest jump or something as it contains a clap. Kick sliders aren't followed completely followed through in gameplay so it's more important to look at the spacing between head to head than spacing from tail to head. Do that and you'll see the logic.
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Hello, my 'biggest roast' from my queue :D
Still, these are minor things cuz this map is awesome

Extreme


Aaaand thats all i could find after 2 hours of watching this. GL!
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Hello, my 'biggest roast' from my queue :D
Still, these are minor things cuz this map is awesome

Extreme

  • 00:50:910 (3,1) - Spacing here is a bit too big - its x5,27. Make it smaller just as you did in 00:56:491 (3,1) - or 01:07:654 (3,1) - its the same thing and there is x4,50. Sure
  • You can adjust spacing here 00:54:747 (1,2,3,4,5) - to x0,30 as you did previously with short streams and sliders. Oh yeah that first one's off a tiny bit.
  • 01:30:241 (3,1) - Stack it as you did previously K
  • 01:43:236 - What about this sound on blue line? Circle with strong hitsound like this should work here. Not putting the note there deliberately cause I like the way the score screen comes up on that impact.

Aaaand thats all i could find after 2 hours of watching this. GL!
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General
- Consider using soft sampleset for the intro 00:02:771 - 00:22:654 - , using normal sampleset overshadows the actual sounds being followed and soft just fits with the lack of substance the song has there better for me. There's also a lack of hitsounding for the intro as well, no whistles/drums or anything. There are things in the song you can follow and I would recommend giving that a shot
- sheela's diff has inconsistent tags, check those out
- Consider renaming Normal to Easy and Advanced to Normal (mainly cuz I hate "Advanced"s and the density increase is appropriate for Easy/Normal)


Advanced
- 00:58:584 (1) - Ideally all borders of a slider should be visible on low diffs. Would recommend something like this to be safe.


sheela's Hard
- 00:19:166 (4,1) - Stacked doubles create weird blankets, would blanket around 4 rather than 5.
- 01:35:038 (2,3) - Hmm, there's a lot of emphasis on 01:35:561 - in the song that these two sliders overlook firstly by being the same slider exactly and secondly by having the second one end on that beat. What I would suggest is having the 2 be a reverse instead so that you can put a circle on 01:35:561 - to get the snare clickable. Seeing as 01:36:608 (2,3,4) - is all clickable I think it might be cool to have some of the same sounds clickable earlier on too. // 01:40:619 (2,3) -

Otherwise pretty solid Hard, liked the slider shapes. o/


apple's Insane
- 00:58:584 (1) - This is a bit edgy for a double repeat, I don't think the majority of players will be able to read the second one seeing as how the slider prior to it covers it a bit. Would move this away or something to be more readable.


Expert
Custom diffname where? :(

- 00:44:544 (8,1) - This spacing may be a bit excessive, especially since the slider doesn't appear until 00:44:195 (4) - where the stream is nearly over so it could be unexpected. Coupled with the low spacing of the stream overall having a jump like that takes a real toll on the player. Perhaps spacing like this may be less harsh but still appropriate?

Something personal but slightly offputting is the lack of any unique sliders in this diff other than 01:18:468 (1,2) - which are used twice. It's a wub song! Super weird sliders would fit really well imo and perhaps you should try to use some? If not it's.. okay I guess, but kinda disappointing that's all.

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