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SiIvaGunner - Mute City Ver. 2 [Taiko]

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Stefan
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Donnerstag, 15. Juni 2017 at 13:52:24

Artist: SiIvaGunner
Title: Mute City Ver. 2
Source: 大乱闘スマッシュブラザーズ for Wii U
Tags: matrixmariox wobble the fans solid strgg toonlink blue fairy trivial171 vince94 skopioxv2 megamanlego king peacock roy wolfman1405 sonicheroesfan1 twinkie pie half pixel crystalforce marioshi thenutritiousguy tng super smash bros. f-zero silvagunner granddad grand dad gilvasunner's highest quality video game rips volume seven part mm2wood
BPM: 190
Filesize: 7828kb
Play Time: 05:06
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Download: SiIvaGunner - Mute City Ver. 2
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iloveyou4ever
Hi :D

[General]
change the BG file name to ''BG''?
but I think it's not a great problem..

[T A T S U J I N]
00:10:354(35,36)- change to K
>emphasis the pitch change between this 00:10:196 - and 00:10:354(35,36)- these notes

00:20:459(78,79)- ^

00:26:459 - change to d and 00:27:091 - change to k
>pitch at 00:26:459 - not so high,but 00:27:091 - pitch is increasing

00:30:801 - change to k
>for consistent with 00:28:275 - and 00:29:538 -

00:45:880 - change to k
>according to vocal pitch(if you're not mapping to vocal,just ignore it)

00:50:933 - change to kkd
>better in reflecting the pitch change of the vocals

01:03:249(8.9.10)- I don't know what you are mapping here...
>I think both vocal and melody has that rhythm
I suggest you simply change like this http://puu.sh/tY2Gf.jpg

01:08:933 - the patterns are a bit repetitive this part...
>I suggest you add some variation for the patterns
such as for 01:12:723 - ,change like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7291487
If you think consistent is more important here,then just ignore it¬¬

01:20:854 - change to d
>according to the melody

01:44:933 - change to k
>the vocal pitch for these two notes 01:44:933 - 01:45:091 - are similar

01:55:354 - Is this rankable? idk...(just a question)

02:49:828 - change like this http://puu.sh/tY3gV.jpg?
>since you use five kat at 02:50:144 - ,I think changing 02:49:986 - to d is a good way to prevent overusing of kats

03:00:170 - change to k
>the vocal pitch goes down here

03:09:328 - change to k
>again better reflecting the guitar pitch change

03:29:617(4,5)- revert it
>to be consistent as 03:39:723 -

04:05:459 - change to kkddk?

04:13:038 - change to k
>high pitch,and k can emphasis the finisher

04:15:880 - I can't play this stream so I can't mod it sorry :?
But I think the stream is fine at most parts :D

04:53:301 - change to d?
>i don't understand why you put k here...

05:06:959 - I don't know if you want to put D here XDD

Good Luck :D
Surono
ew, diffname n prview , ,. , , , ., ., .,

>mod
* 00:25:670 (45,46,47,48,49) - do something for this hithat?
* 00:26:301 (53,54,55,56,57,61,62,63,64,65) - swap these to fit de sounds emphasize? *first kkddk then kkkdk*
* 00:42:249 (87,1) - swap colors? 00:42:249 - dem kat.... 00:42:407 - need kick de "ttttssssssshhhhhh" sound ,. ,. ,. ,. ,,,,,.,.,.,.
* 00:58:828 - wat, wat dem doganfors... dem through de ice and water >:^C
* 01:03:249 - kat, bcus 00:59:459 - 01:00:723 -
* 01:03:459 (9,10) - not 1/3, 01:03:407 - 01:03:723 -
* 01:26:301 - dem asreil drumer voice `-L`
* 01:28:512 - F♂CK Y♂u
* 01:45:565 - I guess from here is.. hopes and dreams theme but nahh ~_~
* 01:53:144 - kdd 1/4 cuz u follow dem instrument mostly
* 01:59:459 (24,25,26,27,28,29,30) - owo (slow playback ples, 1/4 1/4 1/4 1/4 not 1/69 1/69 1/6)
* 02:12:170 - kat this? cuz 02:12:565 (124,125,126) - this low
* 03:10:591 - kat for gitar flouwuwu?

just this.. thx internet, and... herman li is cool
Fantazy
hihi~~~M4M~~Thx

T A T S U J I N
00:05:144 (16) - d>k same sound here
00:05:354 (17) - this one move to 00:05:354 (17) - 1/4
00:05:565 (18) - this move to 00:05:617 - 1/4 too
00:15:249 - this part also
00:10:196 (34) - this k too? also this 00:20:301 (77) -

00:21:565 - add kdd K or kdd d d
00:28:196 (77,78,79,80,81) - kkkdk for higher sound?
01:27:880 - kkkkddddkkkk is better here

01:32:301 - ddkdkkdd here?
01:34:828 - ddkdkdkk
01:37:354 - ddkdkkdk
01:38:775 (123,124) - dd and 01:39:091 (127,128) - kk ?

01:39:880 (134,135,136,137,138,139,140) - kkdkddk is better?
01:40:670 - 01:40:907 - add note for no feel emptiness
01:43:038 - try kkddkdkkkkkdkdkkd ?
01:50:775 - add d

02:42:407 - add finish here? 02:42:486 - delete note here
02:47:459 - here too?
02:57:565 (194) - k>d
02:58:749 (209) - d
02:59:933 (224) - or 03:00:012 (225) - d
03:02:380 (255,257) - delete
03:02:617 (258) - finish here

03:09:880 (49) - k
03:10:591 (53) - k?
03:15:249 (95,96,97,98) - dk dk
03:16:117 (102,103) - kk?
03:18:880 (132) - k

04:04:512 (123) - k
04:04:591 (124) - 04:04:907 (128) - delete
04:05:144 - kkddkkkkD
04:13:038 (8) - 04:13:986 (10) - k

04:15:880 - i feel is better in note with the sound
d for 04:16:591 (10) - 04:17:538 (22) - 04:21:328 (70) - 04:21:644 (74) -
k for 04:17:854 (26) - 04:18:801 (38) -
04:21:880 - here kdkd

04:46:828 - kddkkdk
04:47:459 - kddkddk
04:48:012 (89) - delete
04:48:565 (95) - d
04:48:723 (96) - K

04:48:723 (96) - add some last part? DX
gooooood luck~~~
frukoyurdakul
Hello.

[General]
I detected some parts from DragonForce and Linkin Park so i am not sure about that but i think you can add those to tags. Also, you can decrease volumes of those sections that are calm, that way you can emphasize the crazier parts.

[T A T S U J I N]

00:05:144 (16,17,18) - What are these sounds referring to? There are not 1/3 sounds and i think it doesn't sound good.

00:15:249 (56,57,58) - ^

00:21:565 - Personal preference but there are drum sounds. I think you can map that part as kddkd k d.

00:26:933 (61,62,63,64,65) - How about kdkkd? Or kkkkd? With that way you can emphasize the higher guitar sounds.

00:51:880 (78,79,80,81) - In 1/4, you can change those to ddddkdd because there is a drum attack.

01:03:249 (8,9,10) - Same as 00:05:144.

01:37:196 (103,104,105,106,107,108,109,110,111,112) - Do you hear the background sound here? It goes crazy out there, so i recommend changing the structure of this part, because in my opinion monostreams are not fit for this part.

01:39:880 (134,135,136,137,138,139,140) - kddkddk because of the guitar sound.

01:52:038 (25,26) - Ctrl + g? The 2nd sound is lower and i think don will support it better.

03:09:880 (49) - k? I think you need to change it because 03:09:249 (43) - you used kat on the same guitar sound.

03:20:301 (5,9) - There are sounds I know but i think you need to delete them, since you followed vocals at the rest of that section with skipping some sounds.

03:33:880 (37,38,39,40,41) - You used dkkdk at 00:37:038 (42,43,44,45,46) - so i recommend changing it to the same pattern too.

03:43:986 (118,119,120,121,122) - ^

Good luck on the ranking way~
Topic Starter
Stefan
iloveyou4ever

iloveyou4ever wrote:

Hi :D

[General]
change the BG file name to ''BG''?
but I think it's not a great problem..

[T A T S U J I N]
00:10:354(35,36)- change to K
>emphasis the pitch change between this 00:10:196 - and 00:10:354(35,36)- these notes I want to differ the usage of Big Kat and Big Don and used D for the guitar riffs while K is used for the Mute City rhythm 00:00:723 (1,5,9,38) - etc.

00:20:459(78,79)- ^ ^

00:26:459 - change to d and 00:27:091 - change to k
>pitch at 00:26:459 - not so high,but 00:27:091 - pitch is increasing alright. Although I didn't focus the background too much I find your suggestion good to take.

00:30:801 - change to k
>for consistent with 00:28:275 - and 00:29:538 - That's true! fixed.

00:45:880 - change to k
>according to vocal pitch(if you're not mapping to vocal,just ignore it) Yeah, I didn't mainly map the vocals, just slightly. The counterplay of ddk kdd works better if you ask me.

00:50:933 - change to kkd
>better in reflecting the pitch change of the vocals

01:03:249(8.9.10)- I don't know what you are mapping here... It follows the background music properly since it's 1/3 at this point. Feels okay for me to keep.
>I think both vocal and melody has that rhythm
I suggest you simply change like this http://puu.sh/tY2Gf.jpg

01:08:933 - the patterns are a bit repetitive this part... Hmm, although it's pretty repeating for some seconds I don't believe this requires much changes since it plays very well to the music. However, I changed 01:17:775 - 01:19:038 - because I feel it splits off a bit from the previous part while it was mapped the same way than the previous part.
>I suggest you add some variation for the patterns
such as for 01:12:723 - ,change like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7291487
If you think consistent is more important here,then just ignore it¬¬

01:20:854 - change to d I rather follow the lighter sounds here and keep kkk at this point.
>according to the melody

01:44:933 - change to k
>the vocal pitch for these two notes 01:44:933 - 01:45:091 - are similar It sorta.. doesn't fit well, personally. Might be me but this part sounds fine the way I mapped it.

01:55:354 - Is this rankable? idk...(just a question) Hmm, should be but I may replace it with a drumslider in the future for a better transistion to 01:55:670 (1) - .

02:49:828 - change like this http://puu.sh/tY3gV.jpg?
>since you use five kat at 02:50:144 - ,I think changing 02:49:986 - to d is a good way to prevent overusing of kats Yup, did that.

03:00:170 - change to k
>the vocal pitch goes down here Uh, you probably meant d? Since this note is a kat note already. Anyways, changed it to d. Let's see how people will like it. lol

03:09:328 - change to k
>again better reflecting the guitar pitch change Changed. Including with that, I changed 03:09:880 (49) - to k as well.

03:29:617(4,5)- revert it
>to be consistent as 03:39:723 - For this part I had some focus on the Rick Astley part - pretty hard to do but I do it anyways. kdd at this spot is better imo.

04:05:459 - change to kkddk? Did kdddk instead, also I changed 04:04:591 (124) - to k due the gibbrish sound what I followed.

04:13:038 - change to k
>high pitch,and k can emphasis the finisher I changed both notes 04:13:038 (8,9) - to k, making one k while the other is still d for the same sound doesn't make much sense.

04:15:880 - I can't play this stream so I can't mod it sorry :?
But I think the stream is fine at most parts :D Let's pray it really is. lol

04:53:301 - change to d?
>i don't understand why you put k here... Because of the kinda weird chiptune sound which is by far lighter than the previous two notes after the drumslider.

05:06:959 - I don't know if you want to put D here XDD That honestly doesn't look so logical to me. At least I am not the sort of mapper mapping these "sounds".

Good Luck :D

Surono

Surono wrote:

ew, diffname n prview , ,. , , , ., ., .,

>mod
* 00:25:670 (45,46,47,48,49) - do something for this hithat? With iloveyou4ever's mod this part should be better now.
* 00:26:301 (53,54,55,56,57,61,62,63,64,65) - swap these to fit de sounds emphasize? *first kkddk then kkkdk* I guess we're good here since it already has been changed through the last mod.
* 00:42:249 (87,1) - swap colors? 00:42:249 - dem kat.... 00:42:407 - need kick de "ttttssssssshhhhhh" sound ,. ,. ,. ,. ,,,,,.,.,.,. Yep. Since I mainly use K for the big white ticks, it only makes sense to start with it.
* 00:58:828 - wat, wat dem doganfors... dem through de ice and water >:^C Gotta say, it's fits really well and gives a touch of epicness for the just started marathon.
* 01:03:249 - kat, bcus 00:59:459 - 01:00:723 - Works weird imo but I guess it's sort of consistency we create by this way, changed.
* 01:03:459 (9,10) - not 1/3, 01:03:407 - 01:03:723 - Yeah, I noticed that already by my own it actually isn't 1/3. It plays sillier than before but that can't be changed I guess.
* 01:26:301 - dem asreil drumer voice `-L`
* 01:28:512 - F♂CK Y♂u B♂y Next D♂♂r
* 01:45:565 - I guess from here is.. hopes and dreams theme but nahh ~_~ Hey, sans' theme is also nice. Nothing to complain here!
* 01:53:144 - kdd 1/4 cuz u follow dem instrument mostly To be honest but using 1/4 for this calm part feels really really awkward.
* 01:59:459 (24,25,26,27,28,29,30) - owo (slow playback ples, 1/4 1/4 1/4 1/4 not 1/69 1/69 1/6) I don't really hear the 1/4 out of it. Another reason why I prefer the 1/6 is the intensity this sound has - while I constantely use 1/4 already, using 1/4 here again is sorta lame.
* 02:12:170 - kat this? cuz 02:12:565 (124,125,126) - this low Well, okay. Also changed 02:12:644 (125) - to kat.
* 03:10:591 - kat for gitar flouwuwu? I see how 03:11:459 (58,59,60) - is reasonable kkd while 03:10:512 (52,53,54) - doesn't sound like that imo.

just this.. thx internet, and... herman li is cool

Fantazy

Fantazy wrote:

hihi~~~M4M~~Thx

T A T S U J I N

00:05:144 (16) - d>k same sound here It's more a decision of variety that I used once d d k and then d d d.
00:05:354 (17) - this one move to 00:05:354 (17) - 1/4 Yep, noticed that. Fixed.
00:05:565 (18) - this move to 00:05:617 - 1/4 too ^
00:15:249 - this part also ~
00:10:196 (34) - this k too? also this 00:20:301 (77) - Denied for the same reason than 00:05:144 - .

00:21:565 - add kdd K or kdd d d Not feeling to map this part and prefer to keep it blank.
00:28:196 (77,78,79,80,81) - kkkdk for higher sound? Parts like 00:26:933 (61,62,63,64,65) - feels more worth to emphasize with kkkdk
01:27:880 - kkkkddddkkkk is better here Alright, changed some stuff here.

01:32:301 - ddkdkkdd here?
01:34:828 - ddkdkdkk
01:37:354 - ddkdkkdk
01:38:775 (123,124) - dd and 01:39:091 (127,128) - kk ? Mixing stuff here sounds very very weird since the part itself is strange to map. I plan to make an alternative for the future but I keep it unchanged for now - unless something is sound-wise wrong.

01:39:880 (134,135,136,137,138,139,140) - kkdkddk is better? Already did some changes by my own and want to keep kddkddk here.
01:40:670 - 01:40:907 - add note for no feel emptiness I find the single don notes are enough to emphasize the 1/4 mapping well.
01:43:038 - try kkddkdkkkkkdkdkkd ? I don't find the PSY part worth to be mapped so I decide to follow the background instead, which is pure k.
01:50:775 - add d Although an existing beat is there, I don't like the transistion that much so I won't add it.

02:42:407 - add finish here? 02:42:486 - delete note here This is a pretty weird trade to make the start of the stream sorta strange for emphasizing one note "better" at a certain point. No change here.
02:47:459 - here too? ^ for similar reasons.
02:57:565 (194) - k>d It feels.. strange to end the 1/6 with a don note but I get where we are going since after the 1/6 kk follows with 1/4. However, I believe this is what makes the stream so tricky and challenging at all.
02:58:749 (209) - d Denying since I have sort of a rhythm for the whole stream - also because it's barely possible to keep track of this part of the song.
02:59:933 (224) - or 03:00:012 (225) - d ^
03:02:380 (255,257) - delete Similar to the being it's weird to split the stream this way, that doesn't make much sense to me in all honest.
03:02:617 (258) - finish here People will barely want to hit that note with both keys so I don't see a big profit of having a big note here.

03:09:880 (49) - k Yup. I did this by my own but you're still right however.
03:10:591 (53) - k? hmh, I explained to Surono already that 03:11:459 (58,59,60) - is reasonable kkd while 03:10:512 (52,53,54) - doesn't sound like that.
03:15:249 (95,96,97,98) - dk dk I don't find that the doublet sound changes too much as it requires dk here.
03:16:117 (102,103) - kk? ^
03:18:880 (132) - k For reasons I actually like that, changed.

04:04:512 (123) - k Are you sure? I actually find 04:04:512 (123,124,125) - works as dkk, which I changed by my own.
04:04:591 (124) - 04:04:907 (128) - delete I honestly prefer the stream to be in a whole, cutting it ruins the intensity a lot.
04:05:144 - kkddkkkkD Changed 04:05:144 (131,132) - to kk, left the rest.
04:13:038 (8) - 04:13:986 (10) - k Done here.

04:15:880 - i feel is better in note with the sound
d for 04:16:591 (10) - 04:17:538 (22) - 04:21:328 (70) - 04:21:644 (74) -
k for 04:17:854 (26) - 04:18:801 (38) - Sadly nothing of these suggestions fits well to my sight of sounding. Not denying this part is really awkward to map and so I had my problems with it.
04:21:880 - here kdkd Added.

04:46:828 - kddkkdk See next suggestion for explaination v
04:47:459 - kddkddk I find kddkd k is okay this way so it makes the upcoming kddkddk at 04:48:091 (89,90,91,92,93,94,95) - stronger.
04:48:012 (89) - delete Seems like I did that since there is no note anymore.
04:48:565 (95) - d It's really weird to play kddkddd while kddk is quite present at this part and mostly the nature of the Mute City theme.
04:48:723 (96) - K The sound here is pretty dark, not really justifying to use K here.

04:48:723 (96) - add some last part? DX Uh, I don't get behind what do you try to make me.

gooooood luck~~~

frukoyurdakul

frukoyurdakul wrote:

Hello.

[General]
I detected some parts from DragonForce and Linkin Park so i am not sure about that but i think you can add those to tags. Also, you can decrease volumes of those sections that are calm, that way you can emphasize the crazier parts. Gonna see about the point of volume changes. For the tags; Since I can't upload the beatmap with too many tags I decided to keep the participants in the tags and leave out the sources they used for the collab.

[T A T S U J I N]

00:05:144 (16,17,18) - What are these sounds referring to? There are not 1/3 sounds and i think it doesn't sound good. Changed already.

00:15:249 (56,57,58) - ^ ~

00:21:565 - Personal preference but there are drum sounds. I think you can map that part as kddkd k d. Mentioned in Fantazy's mod already but I don't like this part to be mapped for my case.

00:26:933 (61,62,63,64,65) - How about kdkkd? Or kkkkd? With that way you can emphasize the higher guitar sounds. Already changed to kkkdk.

00:51:880 (78,79,80,81) - In 1/4, you can change those to ddddkdd because there is a drum attack. Works really weird if you ask me. Might be not my personal preference tho.

01:03:249 (8,9,10) - Same as 00:05:144. ~

01:37:196 (103,104,105,106,107,108,109,110,111,112) - Do you hear the background sound here? It goes crazy out there, so i recommend changing the structure of this part, because in my opinion monostreams are not fit for this part. Generally this stream isn't optimized yet and I will try to find a solution for it. For now I only follow the chiptune gibberish.

01:39:880 (134,135,136,137,138,139,140) - kddkddk because of the guitar sound. Done.

01:52:038 (25,26) - Ctrl + g? The 2nd sound is lower and i think don will support it better. On the other hand I find that the k d k switch works better and gives a better emphasis.

03:09:880 (49) - k? I think you need to change it because 03:09:249 (43) - you used kat on the same guitar sound. Done.

03:20:301 (5,9) - There are sounds I know but i think you need to delete them, since you followed vocals at the rest of that section with skipping some sounds. The notes are however supportive to the vocals, reason why I left them d instead of k.

03:33:880 (37,38,39,40,41) - You used dkkdk at 00:37:038 (42,43,44,45,46) - so i recommend changing it to the same pattern too. Fair enough.

03:43:986 (118,119,120,121,122) - ^ ^

Good luck on the ranking way~

Thanks.
DeletedUser_6637817
Music taste on point :thinking:

Have some stars
Hanjamon
Hello Stefan, m4m from your queue.

  • d=Don
    D=Big Don
    k=Katsu
    K=Big Katsu
[General]

  • All seems fine
[T A T S U J I N]

  • 00:05:144 - change this note to k? this will make consistency with previous d d k, and the next d 00:05:301 - it's a different sound
    00:10:196 - if you applied ^ same here
    00:15:249 - ^
    00:20:301 - ^
    00:32:223 - just a personal suggestion here, how about remove this note and change 00:32:301 - to K finisher? i think it fits really good with the vocal
    01:09:091 - change this note to d, 01:09:249 - to k, and 01:09:565 - to d for consistency with 01:13:986 - to 01:14:617 - ? they are the same
    01:59:459 - consider changing this 1/6 to 1/4 kkkkk, kkkkkkk 1/6 feels a bit forced imo :(
    02:57:565 - change this note to d? a d fits good there and the 1/6 it plays better with the 1/4s imo
    03:21:880 - add a k/d here and a d in 03:22:038 - ? you are following vocals in 03:19:828 - and 03:21:091 - and it feels a bit weird suddendly not following them ><
    03:29:459 - change this note to k? i think it fits better
    03:39:170 - i suggest deleting this note and making 03:39:249 - finisher for a better consistency with 03:29:144 -
    04:47:301 - change to d? it's the same as 04:47:933 -

Nothing more to say here, good luck~
Akemi_Homura
Halo~ Stefan~ Thank you for accepting M4M request.
Here is my mod. :3
My modding is include personal feeling & suggestion.
Please feel free to ignore, If my modding affect your mapping style.

d = don
D = big don
k = kat
K = big kat

  • [T A T S U J I N]
  1. 00:20:775 (80) - move to 00:20:933 or delete~? (00:20:775 has some sound exactly, but I feel little awkward this note. I think it's more natural to make a break this point for emphasize previous finisher.)
  2. 00:24:091 (25) - change to k~? (same scratched sound like (11) & (13).
  3. 00:24:249 (27) - if you changed (25) to k, we can change this note to d for consistency. :3
  4. 00:41:933 (85) - how about change to k~? (I think pitch is almost same with (84). and (86) is a down-beat cleary, so k k d is fit imo.)
  5. 00:54:249 (95, 96) - swap this~? so dkdk d. (I think It's more fit to accompaniment pitch. (95) is higher sound than (96).)
  6. 00:56:775 (115, 116) - same suggstion with above.
  7. 01:40:828 - how about add k here~? (has a burst sound here.)
  8. 01:42:249 (155, 156, 157, 158, 159, 160) - change to k ddkkd like this~? ( (155) is pitch is higher than previous and next note. so I think it's more fit to k.)
  9. 01:46:828 (6) - how about change to k~? (for express pitch gap with 01:45:565.)
  10. 01:48:723 (14) - change to k~? (I think it has a same pitch change, like 01:45:880 (2, 3, 4) and 01:47:144 (7, 8, 9).)
  11. 03:15:723 (99) - how about change k~? (I think you want to make a consistent pattern this part, but it's fit to k imo, pitch is high this point. compare to previous (97, 98) - kd.)
  12. 03:21:880 - add d here~?(we can hear vocal sound here.)
  13. 03:22:828 (12, 13) - swap this~? ((12) is higher sound.)
  14. 03:23:301 (15) - change to k~? (pitch is high. I think pitch flow is same with (20, 21, 22) - kd k.)
  15. 03:31:670 (22) - change to k~? (for follow electronic pitch.)
  16. 04:57:723 - add d here~? and change 04:57:880 - k.(It's a suggesiton for express accompaniment and make a reverse structure.)
  17. 05:02:617 - too fast... lol

Generally, I think this map is really nice. :D
Hope this map ranked soon. GL~!
Topic Starter
Stefan

Hanjamon wrote:

Hello Stefan, m4m from your queue.

  • d=Don
    D=Big Don
    k=Katsu
    K=Big Katsu
[General]

  • All seems fine
[T A T S U J I N]

  • 00:05:144 - change this note to k? this will make consistency with previous d d k, and the next d 00:05:301 - it's a different sound ~
    00:10:196 - if you applied ^ same here While for the previous case it applies to have a slightly noticeable clap in the background, for this one here it doesn't really apply. I keep this loop as dddd
    00:15:249 - ^ ~
    00:20:301 - ^ ~
    00:32:223 - just a personal suggestion here, how about remove this note and change 00:32:301 - to K finisher? i think it fits really good with the vocal hmmm I don't find 00:32:301 - that strong to use a K note, guess it's more a question of preference but I like to have the stream end like this.
    01:09:091 - change this note to d, 01:09:249 - to k, and 01:09:565 - to d for consistency with 01:13:986 - to 01:14:617 - ? they are the same Hmm, I see what you mean. did some consistency fixes in 01:08:933 - 01:17:144 - .
    01:59:459 - consider changing this 1/6 to 1/4 kkkkk, kkkkkkk 1/6 feels a bit forced imo :( Song gives a good oppoturnity for a little burst,
    I actually find this one pretty nice.

    02:57:565 - change this note to d? a d fits good there and the 1/6 it plays better with the 1/4s imo Like the previous point I go with the burst I can use, and changed the note to d.
    03:21:880 - add a k/d here and a d in 03:22:038 - ? you are following vocals in 03:19:828 - and 03:21:091 - and it feels a bit weird suddendly not following them >< I agree there is a little echoing at the said part but it sounds pretty unnatural to me to follow that. That's at least how I feel.
    03:29:459 - change this note to k? i think it fits better Removed 03:29:301 - instead so it doesn't sound too spammy.
    03:39:170 - i suggest deleting this note and making 03:39:249 - finisher for a better consistency with 03:29:144 - I don't agree with this idea.
    04:47:301 - change to d? it's the same as 04:47:933 - ~
Nothing more to say here, good luck~[/color]

Akemi_Homura wrote:

Halo~ Stefan~ Thank you for accepting M4M request.
Here is my mod. :3
My modding is include personal feeling & suggestion.
Please feel free to ignore, If my modding affect your mapping style.

d = don
D = big don
k = kat
K = big kat

  • [T A T S U J I N]
  1. 00:20:775 (80) - move to 00:20:933 or delete~? (00:20:775 has some sound exactly, but I feel little awkward this note. I think it's more natural to make a break this point for emphasize previous finisher.) Removed.
  2. 00:24:091 (25) - change to k~? (same scratched sound like (11) & (13). That is done already by 00:23:775 (21,23) - , not by 00:23:933 (23,25) - .
  3. 00:24:249 (27) - if you changed (25) to k, we can change this note to d for consistency. :3 ~
  4. 00:41:933 (85) - how about change to k~? (I think pitch is almost same with (84). and (86) is a down-beat cleary, so k k d is fit imo.) Changed 00:42:091 (86) - to k instead, 00:41:775 (84) - follows the drums, (86) is also slighty lighter so the kat goes here.
  5. 00:54:249 (95, 96) - swap this~? so dkdk d. (I think It's more fit to accompaniment pitch. (95) is higher sound than (96).) (96) follows the clap and else I don't really see how to use dkdk d imo.
  6. 00:56:775 (115, 116) - same suggstion with above. ~
  7. 01:40:828 - how about add k here~? (has a burst sound here.) I find 01:40:512 (141,142,143) - much more significant to hear and to follow.
  8. 01:42:249 (155, 156, 157, 158, 159, 160) - change to k ddkkd like this~? ( (155) is pitch is higher than previous and next note. so I think it's more fit to k.)
  9. 01:46:828 (6) - how about change to k~? (for express pitch gap with 01:45:565.) I reserve the k usage for the higher tones of the Finale bgm rhythm. Changed 01:47:301 (8,9) - meanwhile to k d.
  10. 01:48:723 (14) - change to k~? (I think it has a same pitch change, like 01:45:880 (2, 3, 4) and 01:47:144 (7, 8, 9).) Similar to the previous point I like to follow the higher pitches of the Finale bgm rhythm - which is at 01:49:038 (15) - .
  11. 03:15:723 (99) - how about change k~? (I think you want to make a consistent pattern this part, but it's fit to k imo, pitch is high this point. compare to previous (97, 98) - kd.) Yeah, doesn't make sense to have that inconsistent.
  12. 03:21:880 - add d here~?(we can hear vocal sound here.) I agree there is a little echoing at the said part but it sounds pretty unnatural to me to follow that. That's at least how I feel. (Sorry, just copied from the previous mod.)
  13. 03:22:828 (12, 13) - swap this~? ((12) is higher sound.) Sounds fair.
  14. 03:23:301 (15) - change to k~? (pitch is high. I think pitch flow is same with (20, 21, 22) - kd k.) Hmm, okay. Changed 03:22:196 (10) - to d on my own as well.
  15. 03:31:670 (22) - change to k~? (for follow electronic pitch.) I decided to follow the vocals for that part, weird decision probably but I like the result I got.
  16. 04:57:723 - add d here~? and change 04:57:880 - k.(It's a suggesiton for express accompaniment and make a reverse structure.) Meh, that sounds pretty unnatural to me. I mean your point is valid, don't get me wrong. But I dislike it for my own.
  17. 05:02:617 - too fast... lol Guess what? It was actually faster but I nerfed it. :D

Generally, I think this map is really nice. :D
Hope this map ranked soon. GL~!
Thank you for the mods!
Hanjamon
01:55:117 - wut, since when this is finisher

Topic Starter
Stefan

Hanjamon wrote:

01:55:117 - wut, since when this is finisher

:thinking: good question. removed, thanks.
Kin
so many reference. RIP tags

[D I F F I C U L T Y N A M E]

  1. fix your SV via notepad kek
  2. 00:32:223 (128) - might be just me, but I think changing this one into d, would emphasize this kat better 00:32:301 (1) -
  3. 00:41:301 (80,81,82,83,84) - don't you think it'll be better to map this pattern with this one 00:41:617 (82) - as kat ? In this part, you're using kat to follow the guitare on the background. But this pattern break it. You could maybe change it into d d kkd ? or in another way.
  4. 01:23:301 (136,137,138,139,140) - I feel like using full kat on this pattern to represent this melody here 01:23:301 (136) - ruin a bit this one : 01:22:828 (131) - . Maybe go for ddddk or something like kkddd ?
  5. 02:05:775 - 02:10:828 - this part isn't using kat to map the strange vocal sound (EEEEEW) ; 02:10:828 - 02:15:880 - but this one is. I'm kinda confuse about what you try to really follow on the 1st part.
  6. 02:50:459 (103) - I'd say, this one as don flow a bit better, and follow the guitare better. If you're following the vocal with this full kat ; i'd say ; it's quite strange to change the focus on the same stream.
  7. 02:58:828 (211,212,213) - here is a personal opinion : I'd say, those 3 as don flow & sounds better (dunno why). That's might be just me tho.
  8. 03:29:144 - 03:49:354 - almost the same thing is going on here. (about the kat usage on melody). 2nd part is clearly following the 8bit melody, while idk for the 1st one.
  9. 04:19:828 (51,54) - swap those note ? I'd say the pitch start to get high here 04:19:828 - while it start to get down here 04:20:065 -
  10. 04:20:933 (65,66) - how about changing those 2 into don ? I think it goes way better to follow the melody, with those 2 04:20:775 (63,65) - as don.
call me back later, when you think it's ready ôwô
edit: wat is those sounds at the veri end
Topic Starter
Stefan

Kin wrote:

so many reference. RIP tags

[D I F F I C U L T Y N A M E]

  1. fix your SV via notepad kek I am a boon.
  2. 00:32:223 (128) - might be just me, but I think changing this one into d, would emphasize this kat better 00:32:301 (1) - mmmmmmh.. after some precise checking I agree with that point.
  3. 00:41:301 (80,81,82,83,84) - don't you think it'll be better to map this pattern with this one 00:41:617 (82) - as kat ? In this part, you're using kat to follow the guitare on the background. But this pattern break it. You could maybe change it into d d kkd ? or in another way. Jap, changed that.
  4. 01:23:301 (136,137,138,139,140) - I feel like using full kat on this pattern to represent this melody here 01:23:301 (136) - ruin a bit this one : 01:22:828 (131) - . Maybe go for ddddk or something like kkddd ? Went with kkddd, reasoning is plausible.
  5. 02:05:775 - 02:10:828 - this part isn't using kat to map the strange vocal sound (EEEEEW) ; 02:10:828 - 02:15:880 - but this one is. I'm kinda confuse about what you try to really follow on the 1st part. Ah right. It used to follow different things but meanwhile I neither like it so.. changed to something more consistent.
  6. 02:50:459 (103) - I'd say, this one as don flow a bit better, and follow the guitare better. If you're following the vocal with this full kat ; i'd say ; it's quite strange to change the focus on the same stream. Noticed what you mean, changed that part.
  7. 02:58:828 (211,212,213) - here is a personal opinion : I'd say, those 3 as don flow & sounds better (dunno why). That's might be just me tho. ddk sounds reasonable, (213) sounds higher to me.
  8. 03:29:144 - 03:49:354 - almost the same thing is going on here. (about the kat usage on melody). 2nd part is clearly following the 8bit melody, while idk for the 1st one. Phew.. Actually the whole part has as main focus the vocals of the Never Gonna Give You Up part, I will do an inspection of this part to improve that.
  9. 04:19:828 (51,54) - swap those note ? I'd say the pitch start to get high here 04:19:828 - while it start to get down here 04:20:065 - Yap.
  10. 04:20:933 (65,66) - how about changing those 2 into don ? I think it goes way better to follow the melody, with those 2 04:20:775 (63,65) - as don. Changed 04:20:696 (62,63,64,65) - to dkkd, that should it be.
call me back later, when you think it's ready ôwô
edit: wat is those sounds at the veri end
Thank you! I will do some own changes as self-mod, just in case if there's anything left (also gonna log that):
00:22:196 - 00:32:301 - uses less kats now (to emphasize the guitar better)
00:43:354 (7,8,9) - switched with 00:43:986 (12,13,14) - .
00:45:486 (25,26) - switched, sounds pretty sick to me and looks really nice: https://derpovic.s-ul.eu/Ooecwgxg.png
00:50:538 (67,68) - ^
01:20:617 (109) - changed to k, 01:20:775 (110,111,112) - is stronger by this way.
01:24:407 (147,148,149,150,151) - changed to kdkdd, kkddk didn't sound so intuitive.
01:55:670 - note was missing, re-added D.
02:42:407 - 02:47:459 - adjusted follow to the DragonForce part.
02:47:459 - 02:52:512 - adjusted follow to the Busta Rhymes part.
02:52:512 - 02:57:565 - made a slightly clearer rhythm pattern, basically kkkdkdkkkd.. and so on.
02:58:591 (208) - changed to don.
02:59:854 (224) - ^
03:06:407 (24,25) - switched, sounds to me like a more reasonable follow.
03:07:670 (32) - changed to D, in addition to change 03:07:986 (33) - to k.
Kin
mapfeed can HL ? @Real#9128
Some minor change in IRC

Here you go!
Surono
00:22:275 - you could kat this since 00:22:196 (1,2) - the impact sounds are high, example you did 01:08:933 (1,2) - here

00:26:380 - 00:26:459 - had better if swap these for 00:26:301 (53,54) - vocal flow

00:31:907 - kat this for better with flat/similarrange of vocal?

01:19:038 - no finish?

01:22:907 - don to have contrast with "some" pitch here

01:28:591 - don to represent differ emphasize with 01:28:512 - single voice and 01:28:828 (193,194) - dem flow

01:59:459 - yeah just understandable with this stream, my concern are voice is "clearly" 1/4 but instead you want strong emphasized as 1/6. parable when you heard sound of bzzzzzz you would 1/6 and idk lmao, bcus this is taiko. I would like that too. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

02:30:170 - kat for high vocal

02:42:407 - ~ 03:02:617 - GOsh btw, 03:02:223 (254,255,256) - kdd it. i heard some alteration sounds here and the current pattern 03:02:144 (253,254,255,256,257,258,259) - monotone.

04:07:038 - just finish this? but the sounds are more higher is 04:08:301 - here since had cymbal.. lol so what you think in this part? okey my thought is 04:14:617 - until here, follow cymbal as finisher, follow drum/mainsounds and thats suddenly weird if you 04:11:459 - just started follow from here.

04:33:328 - don, 04:32:933 (217,220,223) - clearly single sounds.
Topic Starter
Stefan

Surono wrote:

00:22:275 - you could kat this since 00:22:196 (1,2) - the impact sounds are high, example you did 01:08:933 (1,2) - here I rather felt that the first two loops of the stream are simple and easy (kdddddkdddddk.. and so on).

00:26:380 - 00:26:459 - had better if swap these for 00:26:301 (53,54) - vocal flow Okay.

00:31:907 - kat this for better with flat/similarrange of vocal? It's not really about the vocals, it's about the kdk rhythm I previously used for 00:30:565 (107,108,109) - or 00:28:038 (75,76,77) - .

01:19:038 - no finish? I didn't feel it fits for my setup so I skipped that.

01:22:907 - don to have contrast with "some" pitch here If you compare 01:21:565 (117,118,119,120,121) - with 01:22:038 (122,123,124,125,126) - and with 01:22:828 (131,132,133,134,135) - they're quite the same and goes well with kkkkd.

01:28:591 - don to represent differ emphasize with 01:28:512 - single voice and 01:28:828 (193,194) - dem flow Hmm, okay.

01:59:459 - yeah just understandable with this stream, my concern are voice is "clearly" 1/4 but instead you want strong emphasized as 1/6. parable when you heard sound of bzzzzzz you would 1/6 and idk lmao, bcus this is taiko. I would like that too. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ (´_J`)... I don't find that a clear 1/4 sound is to indicate but.. I mean many users didn't like 1/6 here so I will put it back on 1/4.

02:30:170 - kat for high vocal The stream pattern sounds better with kdddkddd, the sounds on 02:30:091 - and 02:29:775 - are imo short and fits better with one kat instead of two (kk).

02:42:407 - ~ 03:02:617 - GOsh btw, 03:02:223 (254,255,256) - kdd it. i heard some alteration sounds here and the current pattern 03:02:144 (253,254,255,256,257,258,259) - monotone. sounds pretty tbh.

04:07:038 - just finish this? but the sounds are more higher is 04:08:301 - here since had cymbal.. lol so what you think in this part? okey my thought is 04:14:617 - until here, follow cymbal as finisher, follow drum/mainsounds and thats suddenly weird if you 04:11:459 - just started follow from here. added for 04:08:301 - , 04:10:828 - and 04:13:354 - and removed for 04:07:038 -.

04:33:328 - don, 04:32:933 (217,220,223) - clearly single sounds. Good catch.
a, adjusted tags too.
Surono
`L_`

confirmed in-game about something for optimally/optional and from my mod are mostly applied some important things imo. good to go <3
Nwolf
i cba to word this formally


why is the diff name stupid?
Loctav
a very valid question, I'd like to know, too
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