1. 00:01:334 (1) - Honestly I think this spinner end is just too punishing. It's pretty much always better to have a spinner end on a notable sound. This is especially true since you have a variable timing section directly after, and no pulse has been displayed during the spinner, I'd make the spinner end on 00:07:575 (1) - and get rid of the circle at 00:07:575 (1) - altogether.
   
2. Following on from 00:07:575 (1) - I'm adamant that you should make the three circles at 00:07:978 (1,2,3) - more passive, either by using a circle and a slider or a repeat slider. Make sure the SV is nice and low if you choose to do that.
   Examples

   
3. 00:08:844 (1,1,2,3,4) - The slider is easy to read and the rhythms of the circles are more predictable in this segment. 00:11:607 (5) - however is slightly later and should definitely mapped as a slider end from 00:11:191 (4) - Same SV comment from before.
   
4. 00:16:159 (1) - I don't think this deserves to be a NC
   
5. 00:17:461 (1) - maybe instead of this, you can have a 1/6 repeat slider from 00:17:310 - to 00:17:461 -?
   
6. 00:18:791 (1) - I'm leaning towards this one being passive too.
   
7. 00:19:935 (1) - This doesn't deserve NC as much as 00:20:310 (2) - does.
   
8. 00:21:894 (1,2,3) - 2 and 3 repeat sliders of 1.
   
9. 00:23:198 (1,2,3,1,2,1) - Too erratic to be circles. Sliderify. Also even though you've spaced them in groups of 3, if 00:23:198 (1) - is a new combo then 00:24:493 (1) - shouldn't be a NC because it still feels like its part of the same phrase.
   
10. 00:25:839 (1,2) - out of time and 00:25:839 (1) - doesn't deserve a NC
    
11. 00:28:867 (1) - incorrect rhythm again, also I wouldn't map this as a NC in my opinion, but it's more debatable than the other NC comments.
    
12. 00:30:200 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Doesn't need to be totally sliderified but it probably needs one slider somewhere to show that it's slowing down.
    
13. 00:32:559 (1,2,3,4) - 2, 3 and 4 should all be passive. It's just too irregular to be mapped as circles. And make sure you get that rhythm right; if you slow it down to 0.25x you'll hear that the piano flourish is actually closer to 1/6 time than 1/4. To mitigate this you have a 1/6 repeating slider from 00:32:559 (1) - to 00:32:944 - with a 5% volume timing point at 00:32:867 - to or just end it at 00:32:790 -. That's up to you.
    
14. 00:33:021 (5) - I's make this end on 00:36:076 (1) -
    
15. 00:36:392 (2,3) - I'd make 2 and 3 slider head and tail respectively. The tempo change comes out of nowhere after that slow slider.
    
16. 00:37:020 (1,2) - I recommend that you incorporate these into a slider, somehow, if you want to keep your stream at 00:37:334 (1,2,3,4) - . Either make 00:37:020 (1,2) - their own slider head and tail or make 00:37:020 (1) - the end of the 00:36:392 (2,3) - as a repeat and keep 00:37:177 (2) - as a circle. If not, you're going to have to make 00:37:334 (1,2,3,4) - a repeat slider rhythm.
    
17. 00:37:648 (5) - NC imo
    
18. 00:38:433 (1,2,1,2) - you map these as combos of 2 sliders each even though the velocity changes each slider, but then at 00:48:486 (1,2,3,4) - you don't separate them into their pairs. Either NC them all indiviually at 00:38:433 (1,2,1,2) - and keep them the same at 00:48:486 (1,2,3,4) - or NC both in pairs.
    
19. 00:40:161 (2) - Such a drastic change in SV pretty much needs a NC, especially since both sliders are the same shape.
    
20. 00:42:674 (6) - Debatable NC
    
21. 00:49:742 (5) - You never used overlaying sliders as a motif before, so it conflicts with the design of the map. You should really try to map it some other way. This occurs at 01:25:083 (1,2) - too
    
22. 00:52:255 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - consider breaking up this stream with a 1/4 slider at position 00:52:255 (1) - or position 00:52:569 (5) -; preferably position 00:52:255 (1) - as it keeps the rhythm constant from the last time you had a 5 note stream. The same thing occurs at
23. 01:12:360 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - too
    
24. You copy/pasted 00:53:512 (1,2) - wrong in 00:54:140 (1,2) - and it makes it look weird.
    
25. 00:54:768 (3) - NC to keep up your combo structure
    
26. 00:55:554 (5) - Same shape and different speed needs NC
    
27. 00:57:439 (1) - Doesn't need NC
    
28. 00:58:381 (1) - if anything, 00:58:538 (2) - should be the NC (and obviously then 00:59:009 (1) - shouldn't be a NC
    
    From now on I'll stop pointing out objective NCs; you're using them a lot when some of them aren't warranted, and missing out on crucial ones, so give the rest a good look-over.
    
29. 01:03:093 (1) - you deviated from your previous structure, this should be a slower SV. Because of its actual speed, it results in misreading of the circle 01:03:407 (1) - directly after it.
    
30. 01:07:177 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Abrupt rhythms like these should be mapped more passively until the player gets used to them, similar to how you did them at 02:25:711 (1,2,1,2) - with circle - slider - circle - slider.
    
31. 01:09:847 (1,1,2) - Not sure if I like the perfect flat-ness of these sliders. Same goes for 01:14:873 (1) -
    
32. 01:20:371 (1,2,3) - The effect might be better if you used the slider shapes from 01:19:428 (1,2) - so that hard points mean slow, and soft points mean fast, or vice versa.
    
33. 01:34:350 - Add a 1/2 slider here?
    
34. 01:35:920 - Add a circle here?
    
35. 01:39:219 (5,6,7) - These would be much better if (5) and (6) were 1/2 instead of 1/4 sliders, or at least just (5). Also, (5) has to be a new combo for sure. This occurs at 01:41:732 (5,6,7) - too
    
36. 01:43:931 - you abandoned your structure, when I think you should stick to it here, or maybe using the next iteration for this one too.
    
37. 01:46:130 (1,2,3,4) - consider making (1) and (3) 1/4 slider heads. The 8-note stream just doesn't feel right.
    
38. 01:46:758 (1,2,3) - you can't just have a different rhythm after using a structure. You'll need to keep the same rhythm as
39. 01:39:219 (5,6,7) - and 01:41:732 (5,6,7) -
    
40. 01:51:470 (1,2) - Make these stack to coincide with the new theme. You're not accenting anything by doing this. The same goes for 01:52:570 (1,2,3) - and 01:53:983 (1,2) -
    
41. 01:52:727 (2,3) - This spacing is larger than 01:52:884 (3,1) - this spacing even though 01:53:041 (1) - seems like the most important note of the 3.
    
42. 01:56:810 (1,2,3,4,5) - Try to separate these out more, but still sticking to the stack motif. I suggest separating 01:56:810 (1,2) - , 01:57:124 (3) -, 01:57:282 (4,5) - to make a 2,1,2 rhythm. Then make 01:57:753 (7) - A large jump? (8) can be a slider end after that to contrast the circle movement or just a stack like the others.
    Example

    
    Something similar should be done here 01:59:323 (1,2,3,4) - .
    
43. 02:08:748 (1,2,3,4) - Overmapped. There's no triplet rhythm there at all.
    
44. 02:03:407 (1,2,1,2,1,2,3,1,2,3,1) - This has noticeably less flow than the rest of the section. It needs to be remapped to fit the standards of the rest of the section.
    
45. 02:15:344 (1,2) - I feel like 02:15:344 (1) - deserves to be a slider but 02:15:501 (2) - should turn into two circles to be honest. There's no sound to accent there.
    
46. 02:24:454 (1,2,3,4) - Active movement in the melody stops on (3), I recommend turning (1) and (2) into a stack, and the same for (3) and (4).
    
47. 02:38:276 (3,4,1,2) - Same rhythm, different movement. It looks sloppy and it's hard to read.
    
48. 02:39:140 (1,2,3) - Make these into a reverse slider. Possibly use 02:38:905 (2) - as a 1/2 slider to make the 02:39:140 (1) - rhythm more readable.
    
49. 02:50:056 - I really wanna see this guitar sound mapped and 02:50:371 - this distorted sound mapped too. Making 02:49:899 (1,2) - both 1/2 sliders solves this.
    
50. 02:55:240 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - The sounds you're streaming to here are very quiet. Make the hitsounds really low for this stream only.
    
51. 02:58:617 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - Two reverse sliders starting on each (1) as a necessity. You can also have 02:58:381 - as a slider head with 1/2 or 3/4 length to make it easier to see the rhythm.
    
52. 02:59:952 (1,1) - is difficult to read, so I'd extend 02:59:952 (1) - to 03:00:423 (1) - and remove 03:00:580 (2) -, replacing it with a circle at 03:00:737 - .
    
53. 03:00:894 (3,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,1,2,1,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,1,1,1) - This is an interesting solo from a music standpoint. You really should be mapping it so it stands out from the rest of the map so far. It's very generic right now. You need more abnormal patterns like 03:10:946 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - .
    
54. 03:06:391 (1,2,1,2,3,4) - Be careful with these rhythms, they're wrong again.
    
55. 03:08:119 - , 03:08:276 - Missing sounds
    
56. 03:20:999 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - This gets very repetitive after the 4th repetition. Try to mix up the angles a little on each iteration.
    
57. 03:46:129 - The general use of overlapping sliders such as 04:04:192 (2,2,2) - ,04:15:972 (1,1) - and 04:24:454 (1,2,1,2) - are very detrimental to the map. They don't feel great to play and you're missing out on abusing the variety that comes from being able to abuse a high SV. I usually like them, but in this map they're completely unwarranted. The stacked circles like at 03:46:443 (1,2,3) - and the slightly overlapping sliders like at 03:47:700 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - are both great though.
    
58. 03:51:783 (1) - This needs to be sped up or shrunk so that the end of the slider lands on 03:52:097 - because it's just too long and kills the momentum.
    
59. 03:56:182 (1,2) - These slow sliders are unneeded and also kill the momentum.
    
60. 03:57:438 (1,2,3,4) - I think (1) and (3) should be 1/4 sliders, since that instrument is emphasising the quavers.
    
    Other than that, a good final chorus.
    
61. 04:48:878 (5) - I don't see the purpose of this being a slider. You end up accenting the off-beat. It just doesn't make sense.
    
62. 04:52:255 (1,2,3,4,5) - I don't like these being completely flat again. They kinda look unsightly.
    
63. 04:58:537 (1) - I'd make this a 1/4 slider again.
    
64. 05:04:035 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - A minor gripe about these, I'd rotate them by 24 degrees each time around the centre so that they only make one full rotation, instead of a 1+1/4 rotation. I'd also have a gradually decreasing hitsound volume so that the hitsounds die away with the clock. The high hitsound volume at the end kinda ruins the fact that the song is supposed to die away, so I'd get rid of that for certain.

Good luck with the map!

Mykaterasu wrote:

Well, it's Camellia, so I'm inclined to give this my best shot. Here I go. wew big mod big thanks

[Fading Memories]

1. 00:01:334 (1) - Honestly I think this spinner end is just too punishing. It's pretty much always better to have a spinner end on a notable sound. This is especially true since you have a variable timing section directly after, and no pulse has been displayed during the spinner, I'd make the spinner end on 00:07:575 (1) - and get rid of the circle at 00:07:575 (1) - altogether. fixed
   
2. Following on from 00:07:575 (1) - I'm adamant that you should make the three circles at 00:07:978 (1,2,3) - more passive, either by using a circle and a slider or a repeat slider. Make sure the SV is nice and low if you choose to do that.
   Examples

   
   fixed, repeat slider
   
3. 00:08:844 (1,1,2,3,4) - The slider is easy to read and the rhythms of the circles are more predictable in this segment. 00:11:607 (5) - however is slightly later and should definitely mapped as a slider end from 00:11:191 (4) - Same SV comment from before. fixed
   
4. 00:16:159 (1) - I don't think this deserves to be a NC fixed
   
5. 00:17:461 (1) - maybe instead of this, you can have a 1/6 repeat slider from 00:17:310 - to 00:17:461 -? done
   
6. 00:18:791 (1) - I'm leaning towards this one being passive too. fixed
   
7. 00:19:935 (1) - This doesn't deserve NC as much as 00:20:310 (2) - does. fixed
   
8. 00:21:894 (1,2,3) - 2 and 3 repeat sliders of 1. fixed
   
9. 00:23:198 (1,2,3,1,2,1) - Too erratic to be circles. Sliderify. Also even though you've spaced them in groups of 3, if 00:23:198 (1) - is a new combo then 00:24:493 (1) - shouldn't be a NC because it still feels like its part of the same phrase. fixed
   
10. 00:25:839 (1,2) - out of time and 00:25:839 (1) - doesn't deserve a NC fixed, also either my memory is bad and i fixed that or there was no NC there initially
11. 00:28:867 (1) - incorrect rhythm again, also I wouldn't map this as a NC in my opinion, but it's more debatable than the other NC comments. fixed, NC removed
    
12. 00:30:200 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Doesn't need to be totally sliderified but it probably needs one slider somewhere to show that it's slowing down. fixed
    
13. 00:32:559 (1,2,3,4) - 2, 3 and 4 should all be passive. It's just too irregular to be mapped as circles. And make sure you get that rhythm right; if you slow it down to 0.25x you'll hear that the piano flourish is actually closer to 1/6 time than 1/4. To mitigate this you have a 1/6 repeating slider from 00:32:559 (1) - to 00:32:944 - with a 5% volume timing point at 00:32:867 - to or just end it at 00:32:790 -. That's up to you. fixed, 1/6 repeat
    
14. 00:33:021 (5) - I's make this end on 00:36:076 (1) - fixed
    
15. 00:36:392 (2,3) - I'd make 2 and 3 slider head and tail respectively. The tempo change comes out of nowhere after that slow slider. fixed, moved position to avoid overlaps
    
16. 00:37:020 (1,2) - I recommend that you incorporate these into a slider, somehow, if you want to keep your stream at 00:37:334 (1,2,3,4) - . Either make 00:37:020 (1,2) - their own slider head and tail or make 00:37:020 (1) - the end of the 00:36:392 (2,3) - as a repeat and keep 00:37:177 (2) - as a circle. If not, you're going to have to make 00:37:334 (1,2,3,4) - a repeat slider rhythm. i might have misinterpreted this but i made a 1/1 repeat slider at 00:36:392 (1) - so that 00:37:177 (2) - stays a circle
    
17. 00:37:648 (5) - NC imo fixed
    
18. 00:38:433 (1,2,1,2) - you map these as combos of 2 sliders each even though the velocity changes each slider, but then at 00:48:486 (1,2,3,4) - you don't separate them into their pairs. Either NC them all indiviually at 00:38:433 (1,2,1,2) - and keep them the same at 00:48:486 (1,2,3,4) - or NC both in pairs. fixed, 00:48:486 (1,2,1,2) - are now NC'ed in pairs
    
19. 00:40:161 (2) - Such a drastic change in SV pretty much needs a NC, especially since both sliders are the same shape. fixed
    
20. 00:42:674 (6) - Debatable NC if 00:37:648 (1) - is an NC then this should be an NC, fixed
    
21. 00:49:742 (5) - You never used overlaying sliders as a motif before, so it conflicts with the design of the map. You should really try to map it some other way. This occurs at 01:25:083 (1,2) - too 00:49:742 (3) - is fixed
    i do not know how to fix 01:25:083 (1,2) -
    
22. 00:52:255 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - consider breaking up this stream with a 1/4 slider at position 00:52:255 (1) - or position 00:52:569 (5) -; preferably position 00:52:255 (1) - as it keeps the rhythm constant from the last time you had a 5 note stream. The same thing occurs at
23. 01:12:360 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - too i followed what you said for both instances but i don't think i did it right
    
24. You copy/pasted 00:53:512 (1,2) - wrong in 00:54:140 (1,2) - and it makes it look weird. this wasn't a copy/paste initially but it does look weird so i tried to make it look better
    
25. 00:54:768 (3) - NC to keep up your combo structure
    
26. 00:55:554 (5) - Same shape and different speed needs NC
    
27. 00:57:439 (1) - Doesn't need NC
    
28. 00:58:381 (1) - if anything, 00:58:538 (2) - should be the NC (and obviously then 00:59:009 (1) - shouldn't be a NC
    
    All above are fixed
    
    From now on I'll stop pointing out objective NCs; you're using them a lot when some of them aren't warranted, and missing out on crucial ones, so give the rest a good look-over.
    
    feedback taken, will look into it soon
    
29. 01:03:093 (1) - you deviated from your previous structure, this should be a slower SV. Because of its actual speed, it results in misreading of the circle 01:03:407 (1) - directly after it. fixed
    
30. 01:07:177 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Abrupt rhythms like these should be mapped more passively until the player gets used to them, similar to how you did them at 02:25:711 (1,2,1,2) - with circle - slider - circle - slider. fixed
    
31. 01:09:847 (1,1,2) - Not sure if I like the perfect flat-ness of these sliders. Same goes for 01:14:873 (1) - not sure it was completely necessary but uh... fixed
    
32. 01:20:371 (1,2,3) - The effect might be better if you used the slider shapes from 01:19:428 (1,2) - so that hard points mean slow, and soft points mean fast, or vice versa. done
    
33. 01:34:350 - Add a 1/2 slider here? done
    
34. 01:35:920 - Add a circle here? fixed
    
35. 01:39:219 (5,6,7) - These would be much better if (5) and (6) were 1/2 instead of 1/4 sliders, or at least just (5). Also, (5) has to be a new combo for sure. This occurs at 01:41:732 (5,6,7) - too fixed
    
36. 01:43:931 - you abandoned your structure, when I think you should stick to it here, or maybe using the next iteration for this one too. fixed
    
37. 01:46:130 (1,2,3,4) - consider making (1) and (3) 1/4 slider heads. The 8-note stream just doesn't feel right. fixed
    
38. 01:46:758 (1,2,3) - you can't just have a different rhythm after using a structure. You'll need to keep the same rhythm as
39. 01:39:219 (5,6,7) - and 01:41:732 (5,6,7) - fixed
    
40. 01:51:470 (1,2) - Make these stack to coincide with the new theme. You're not accenting anything by doing this. The same goes for 01:52:570 (1,2,3) - and 01:53:983 (1,2) - fixed
    
41. 01:52:727 (2,3) - This spacing is larger than 01:52:884 (3,1) - this spacing even though 01:53:041 (1) - seems like the most important note of the 3. i want for a stack, i think it fixes the spacing problems
    
42. 01:56:810 (1,2,3,4,5) - Try to separate these out more, but still sticking to the stack motif. I suggest separating 01:56:810 (1,2) - , 01:57:124 (3) -, 01:57:282 (4,5) - to make a 2,1,2 rhythm. Then make 01:57:753 (7) - A large jump? (8) can be a slider end after that to contrast the circle movement or just a stack like the others.
    Example

    
    Something similar should be done here 01:59:323 (1,2,3,4) - . fixed
    
43. 02:08:748 (1,2,3,4) - Overmapped. There's no triplet rhythm there at all. fixed
    
44. 02:03:407 (1,2,1,2,1,2,3,1,2,3,1) - This has noticeably less flow than the rest of the section. It needs to be remapped to fit the standards of the rest of the section. DONE
    
45. 02:15:344 (1,2) - I feel like 02:15:344 (1) - deserves to be a slider but 02:15:501 (2) - should turn into two circles to be honest. There's no sound to accent there. done
    
46. 02:24:454 (1,2,3,4) - Active movement in the melody stops on (3), I recommend turning (1) and (2) into a stack, and the same for (3) and (4). done
    
47. 02:38:276 (3,4,1,2) - Same rhythm, different movement. It looks sloppy and it's hard to read. fixed
    
48. 02:39:140 (1,2,3) - Make these into a reverse slider. Possibly use 02:38:905 (2) - as a 1/2 slider to make the 02:39:140 (1) - rhythm more readable. done
    
49. 02:50:056 - I really wanna see this guitar sound mapped and 02:50:371 - this distorted sound mapped too. Making 02:49:899 (1,2) - both 1/2 sliders solves this. done
    
50. 02:55:240 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - The sounds you're streaming to here are very quiet. Make the hitsounds really low for this stream only. done
    
51. 02:58:617 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - Two reverse sliders starting on each (1) as a necessity. You can also have 02:58:381 - as a slider head with 1/2 or 3/4 length to make it easier to see the rhythm. done
    
52. 02:59:952 (1,1) - is difficult to read, so I'd extend 02:59:952 (1) - to 03:00:423 (1) - and remove 03:00:580 (2) -, replacing it with a circle at 03:00:737 - . done
    
53. 03:00:894 (3,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,1,2,1,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,1,1,1) - This is an interesting solo from a music standpoint. You really should be mapping it so it stands out from the rest of the map so far. It's very generic right now. You need more abnormal patterns like 03:10:946 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - . i did not remap entirely but it is now mapped to the solo
    
54. 03:06:391 (1,2,1,2,3,4) - Be careful with these rhythms, they're wrong again. fixed
    
55. 03:08:119 - , 03:08:276 - Missing sounds due to the remap to fit the solo this is no longer applicable
    
56. 03:20:999 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - This gets very repetitive after the 4th repetition. Try to mix up the angles a little on each iteration. done
    
57. 03:46:129 - The general use of overlapping sliders such as 04:04:192 (2,2,2) - ,04:15:972 (1,1) - and 04:24:454 (1,2,1,2) - are very detrimental to the map. They don't feel great to play and you're missing out on abusing the variety that comes from being able to abuse a high SV. I usually like them, but in this map they're completely unwarranted. The stacked circles like at 03:46:443 (1,2,3) - and the slightly overlapping sliders like at 03:47:700 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - are both great though. feedback taken, minor adjustments made now. more will be made later
    
58. 03:51:783 (1) - This needs to be sped up or shrunk so that the end of the slider lands on 03:52:097 - because it's just too long and kills the momentum. done, shortened
    
59. 03:56:182 (1,2) - These slow sliders are unneeded and also kill the momentum. fixed
    
60. 03:57:438 (1,2,3,4) - I think (1) and (3) should be 1/4 sliders, since that instrument is emphasising the quavers.
    
    Other than that, a good final chorus.
    
61. 04:48:878 (5) - I don't see the purpose of this being a slider. You end up accenting the off-beat. It just doesn't make sense. fixed, was meant to be a quintuplet stream into a slider
    
62. 04:52:255 (1,2,3,4,5) - I don't like these being completely flat again. They kinda look unsightly. fixed
    
63. 04:58:537 (1) - I'd make this a 1/4 slider again. done
    
64. 05:04:035 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - A minor gripe about these, I'd rotate them by 24 degrees each time around the centre so that they only make one full rotation, instead of a 1+1/4 rotation. I'd also have a gradually decreasing hitsound volume so that the hitsounds die away with the clock. The high hitsound volume at the end kinda ruins the fact that the song is supposed to die away, so I'd get rid of that for certain. done

Good luck with the map!