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amazarashi - Kisetsu wa Tsugitsugi Shindeiku

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This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Thursday, June 10, 2021 at 12:01:08 AM

Artist: amazarashi
Title: Kisetsu wa Tsugitsugi Shindeiku
Source: 東京喰種 トーキョーグール√A
Tags: seasons die one after the other tokyo ghoul root a rock japanese j-rock full version season 2 ending
BPM: 181
Filesize: 9862kb
Play Time: 05:42
Difficulties Available:
  1. Revival (5.4 stars, 1291 notes)
Download: amazarashi - Kisetsu wa Tsugitsugi Shindeiku
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rip 4 year old bubble

if kaneki ken i ken too

inspired by aka's map
Vivyanne
first
Grrum
00:14:482 (7,8,9,1) – My expectation was that (7,8) would be stacked. This is mostly because the whole song up until this point had weak beats on the red ticks and strong beats on white ticks. To communicate to the player that something is about to change, try making (7) into a ½ slider and delete (8) to transition into the ¼ rhythm more naturally.
00:15:808 (5,6) – This is a similar instance but I don't think a change is necessary if you do the above. By doing the above, the player is more aware of this strong rhythm and the pattern makes more sense, though for consistency reasons, doing something similar can work.

00:23:764 (5,6,1) – This angle felt a bit odd. The direction of the (6) slider is important, and right now it feels like (1) should be stacked on 00:23:266 (2) - . To achieve this pattern though, try rotating (6) by 40 degrees

01:01:222 (1) – There's quite a few places like this one where it's overlapping the HUD at the top. Moving this down a little bit seems easy to accomplish and improving the design helps for the players who enjoy playing with the HP Bar.

03:11:830 (4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5) – There's a lot of ¼ rhythm here which makes this part feel too strong. Consider deleting 03:12:742 (2) -

03:58:902 (3) – This strong note has weak spacing into it. Consider emphasizing it more.

As with most ranked maps, I think the kiai felt weak relative to the build up. Overall good map. Good luck!
Topic Starter
Battle
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pinataman wrote:

00:14:482 (7,8,9,1) – My expectation was that (7,8) would be stacked. This is mostly because the whole song up until this point had weak beats on the red ticks and strong beats on white ticks. To communicate to the player that something is about to change, try making (7) into a ½ slider and delete (8) to transition into the ¼ rhythm more naturally. I'm not quite sure that this change is exactly necessary, the song is rather calm at this point yes, but a change in the pattern would clearly indicate that something is stronger. It breaks away from the stacked pattern, yet it creates it's own way of emphasis via variation from what players are used to (if you can call it that it's only been a few seconds lol) at this point. I feel as though making it a 1/2 pattern would disrupt how fluid it is atm

00:15:808 (5,6) – This is a similar instance but I don't think a change is necessary if you do the above. By doing the above, the player is more aware of this strong rhythm and the pattern makes more sense, though for consistency reasons, doing something similar can work. ^ It's quite noticeable that a strong rhythm exists if the pattern of stacked 1/2 is broken, a jump (albeit not even a big one) from relatively stagnant movement to a bit more consist movement is definitely noticeable and can be considered emphasis imo. It's consistent within those two things, so I don't really have too big of an issue toward both

00:23:764 (5,6,1) – This angle felt a bit odd. The direction of the (6) slider is important, and right now it feels like (1) should be stacked on 00:23:266 (2) - . To achieve this pattern though, try rotating (6) by 40 degrees Uh, I kinda just made the slider parallel, rotating it by 40 degrees (playfield or selection center) seemed far more awkward, in a sense the pattern plays like a star pattern (ignoring the fact that it's a 1/4 slider since they play like regular hitcircles) so I don't find the angle too awkward after I made it parallel, the slight slant might have caused some breaks anyways

01:01:222 (1) – There's quite a few places like this one where it's overlapping the HUD at the top. Moving this down a little bit seems easy to accomplish and improving the design helps for the players who enjoy playing with the HP Bar. lol this is literally the only time it touches the hp bar so yeah fixed

03:11:830 (4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5) – There's a lot of ¼ rhythm here which makes this part feel too strong. Consider deleting 03:12:742 (2) - Sure, the map isn't trying to be too hard anyways

03:58:902 (3) – This strong note has weak spacing into it. Consider emphasizing it more. I would prefer to keep same ds during this part

As with most ranked maps, I think the kiai felt weak relative to the build up. Overall good map. Good luck! Thanks, I feel like the technical rhythms make up for the "weakness" in the kiai, the song is rather powerful but soft at the same time, so I feel like how the kiais are are appropriate
ItashaS13
Hi from my modding Queue




  • Revival

    00:08:183 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - in this whole first section please, be consistent, the sliders are randomly placed in the timeline, do something like 2 circles - 2 sliders - 2 circles - 2 sliders, or 3 circles - 2 sliders or 1 circle -2 sliders or whatever you want, but please, be consistent
    00:26:416 (4,5) - dayum, this spacing, fix this
    -also, be consistent in this second section- because sometimes you have 00:18:791 (1,2,3,4,5) - 2 sliders 2 circles 1 slider
    00:24:095 (1,2,3,4) - 1 long slider 2 circles 1 slider
    and more stuff like that, its kinda "random" yea, you have variety but this is not the point when it looks a bit messy
    00:14:730 (9) - delete this, there is not any sound there
    00:15:974 (6) - this sound should be a slider-end because these two 00:16:056 (7,1) - are loud sounds, but the first one is not, the first one sound more like a end of the sound of 00:15:808 (5) - so, make the 5 a slider that ends on where the 6 is now, and make a double on the 7 and 1
    00:18:377 (6) - delete
    00:18:625 (8,9,1) - this triplet is okay, the difference between sounds is not soooo noticeable like the one before, so this triplet, its okay!
    00:20:697 (3) - no
    00:23:929 (6) - dont use a kickslider here
    00:27:742 (5,6) - spacing
    00:41:664 (3,4) - ^
    00:48:543 - missed the double here?
    00:49:786 (3,4) - don't make this like that.. the white tick should be clickable, never skip them
    00:52:272 (2,3) - the problem with the spacing in parts like this is because here you have this long spacing but 00:53:598 (2,3) - here the spacing is too short, you should not change the spacing in these, only if the music changes, but it sounds the same in both parts, and not only this one, I mean for the song in general, so you should be clear on the spacing and just use one
    01:24:592 (4,5,6) - spacing
    01:43:653 (1) - make this longer to end in the blue tick? it would fit better imo
    so why is this part 01:47:631 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - with such DS soooo different than 01:44:979 (1,2,3,1,2) -
    maybe use more spacing in this part 01:48:957 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3) - becuase it goes more intense, but the two parts before.. no, the change in the music its almost nothing but the change in the map is big!
    01:58:404 (2,3,4,1,2,1,2) - more spacing? this part is intense, MORE SPACING!
    02:01:885 (8) - stack its end with one of the circles of the triplet
    02:04:869 (1,2,3) - move the 3 just a bit to the right
    02:37:686 (5) - stack this with the 02:37:023 (2) - end
    02:37:935 - this should be clickable (ohh there is a lot of more like this across the map) dont really need to change if you don't want to, but be clear in when you use them to make it consistent
    02:43:819 (3,4) - you know.. please.. don't
    02:44:316 (6) - 2 circle sinstead of a slider would fit better with the vocals, no?
    02:50:614 (3) - this should be a long slider like the next one
    02:54:924 (4,5) - wot with this spacing, like you never used this spacing before
    03:05:697 (4,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - why the NC's in all of these? NC it like 01:30:393 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) -
    also you didnt used this triplet in the other part like this before, 03:07:686 (2,3,4) - so add this triplet in the other kiai or delete this
    03:50:946 (1) - why not make a great sliderart here for the vocal?
    04:00:228 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - don't use such distance in this quiet part..
    05:07:852 - kiai should start here
    05:13:156 (1,2) - the shapes should be equal xd
    05:25:421 (3,4) - just to remember, check all the parts with spacing like this
GLGL
Topic Starter
Battle
I_S

Itasha_S13 wrote:

Hi from my modding Queue




  • Revival

    00:08:183 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - in this whole first section please, be consistent, the sliders are randomly placed in the timeline, do something like 2 circles - 2 sliders - 2 circles - 2 sliders, or 3 circles - 2 sliders or 1 circle -2 sliders or whatever you want, but please, be consistent I don't really have too big of an issue on this, having a flat out consistent pattern is more something along the lines of a hard/normal but I feel like the variation is necessary in order to keep things interesting. The section is just the same rhythm repeating itself, having a consistent, hard-set pattern such as 2 circles - 2 sliders would get extremely boring, and tedious, very quickly
    00:26:416 (4,5) - dayum, this spacing, fix this It's quite a bit more lenient that you'd expect, since players don't necessarily need to go through the entire length of 1 to get a 300, so the snap from 1 to 2 isn't extremely punishing, and very much consistently playable
    -also, be consistent in this second section- because sometimes you have 00:18:791 (1,2,3,4,5) - 2 sliders 2 circles 1 slider
    00:24:095 (1,2,3,4) - 1 long slider 2 circles 1 slider
    and more stuff like that, its kinda "random" yea, you have variety but this is not the point when it looks a bit messy I'll group this up into one section (which of course consists of the previous two suggestions), yes, it's variety, and before the argument goes wrong I'll state this, a lot of my rhythm choices were inspired by aka's set. To me, it makes sense why he chose to undermap the section right before the break with 1/1 sliders, although the music picks up it's still fairly calm. It provides a nice amount of variation, and because of how the song's rhythm changed slightly that shifted focus from the drums/background noise, to piano, it's more than justified here imo
    00:14:730 (9) - delete this, there is not any sound there Yes, but I've hitsounded it to make it seem as IF it had a sound there, the hitsounding is done to cover a lot of overmapping to make it sound good and make it sound as if it made sense
    00:15:974 (6) - this sound should be a slider-end because these two 00:16:056 (7,1) - are loud sounds, but the first one is not, the first one sound more like a end of the sound of 00:15:808 (5) - so, make the 5 a slider that ends on where the 6 is now, and make a double on the 7 and 1 I suppose I get what you're saying but the things prior to basically the triplet all sound relatively the same, whether it be circles or sliders for variation, I don't think it matters a whole lot
    00:18:377 (6) - delete Hitsoundssss
    00:18:625 (8,9,1) - this triplet is okay, the difference between sounds is not soooo noticeable like the one before, so this triplet, its okay! owo)b
    00:20:697 (3) - no
    00:23:929 (6) - dont use a kickslider here ^ I'm going to get more opinions on the hitsounding for the overmapping, but for now it'll stay like this
    00:27:742 (5,6) - spacing These are fine in play though :((
    00:41:664 (3,4) - ^ ^
    00:48:543 - missed the double here? Oh
    00:49:786 (3,4) - don't make this like that.. the white tick should be clickable, never skip them Not always imo, there's situations where it works, I feel it works here
    00:52:272 (2,3) - the problem with the spacing in parts like this is because here you have this long spacing but 00:53:598 (2,3) - here the spacing is too short, you should not change the spacing in these, only if the music changes, but it sounds the same in both parts, and not only this one, I mean for the song in general, so you should be clear on the spacing and just use one Having only one thing to use and sticking with it is generally not a good idea, unless you're able to pull off something crazy like some tsubaki straight line sliders like, variation is needed lmao
    01:24:592 (4,5,6) - spacing What exactly is wrong with it? There's movement on 5 due to it being a white tick, and 6 isn't heavily emphasized because this is a calmer section leading into the build up soon
    01:43:653 (1) - make this longer to end in the blue tick? it would fit better imo I agree
    so why is this part 01:47:631 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - with such DS soooo different than 01:44:979 (1,2,3,1,2) -
    maybe use more spacing in this part 01:48:957 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3) - becuase it goes more intense, but the two parts before.. no, the change in the music its almost nothing but the change in the map is big! It's quite different from each other, and it's consistent within the kiais, the 1,2,3,1,2 pattern is quite unique in itself, the vocals are quite awkward imo during this part, so I made it a distinct pattern that persists throughout the kiais, I feel that the significant change in how the vocals play out is good enough justification for the variation
    01:58:404 (2,3,4,1,2,1,2) - more spacing? this part is intense, MORE SPACING! Slight scale up
    02:01:885 (8) - stack its end with one of the circles of the triplet This is intentional
    02:04:869 (1,2,3) - move the 3 just a bit to the right
    02:37:686 (5) - stack this with the 02:37:023 (2) - end naw, I positioned it so that it would b in the body
    02:37:935 - this should be clickable (ohh there is a lot of more like this across the map) dont really need to change if you don't want to, but be clear in when you use them to make it consistent okie most of the things that are a 3/4 1/2 slider pattern on downbeats are the ones w/ jumps so ye
    02:43:819 (3,4) - you know.. please.. don't But it's good :((((((((
    02:44:316 (6) - 2 circle sinstead of a slider would fit better with the vocals, no? Truu
    02:50:614 (3) - this should be a long slider like the next one Naw i think the 1/2 slider fits better here
    02:54:924 (4,5) - wot with this spacing, like you never used this spacing before Well, it's kinda an aesthetic thing, combined with the fact that it's a slow section
    03:05:697 (4,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - why the NC's in all of these? NC it like 01:30:393 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - ReverseddD
    also you didnt used this triplet in the other part like this before, 03:07:686 (2,3,4) - so add this triplet in the other kiai or delete this This section is a LOT and I mean a LOT more energetic than the previous section, it's evident in the slow part, where it's actually moderately paced instead of just, slow. There is a triplet present here, but NOT in the previous kiai
    03:50:946 (1) - why not make a great sliderart here for the vocal? Cuz i suck at slider art lmfaooo
    04:00:228 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - don't use such distance in this quiet part.. I want to create a strong contrast, this section is perfect for that as it's picking up but it's right before a break
    05:07:852 - kiai should start here I'm just tryna b like aka manN
    05:13:156 (1,2) - the shapes should be equal xd Plsss I like the visuals
    05:25:421 (3,4) - just to remember, check all the parts with spacing like this they're fiiiineee, (I choose more informal responses since I've already addressed them in a formal manner b4)
GLGL

Thank

Kinda some follow-up, ended up nerfing some of the triplets with sliders cuz testplays
Foxy Grandpa

Battle wrote:

if kaneki ken i ken too
Comedy

From ur m4m queue

hitsounds so good oo

  • [modz]
  1. 00:10:504 (5,3) - This triggers me, but idk if this was intentional .-.
  2. 01:28:736 (5,6) - I feel like these jumps should be emphasized a little more, cause the vocals pick up also
  3. 01:42:990 (4) - can u move this to like x:87 y:108 cause the drums in the background and the decrease in spacing on a higher part of the song doesn't make much sense
  4. 02:35:034 (5) - Why is the spacing on this so drastic, decrease the spacing a bit on this and space 02:35:200 (6,1) - out a little more for the emphasis on 1
  5. 03:39:012 (1,3) - U should also space these out cause it's still pretty intense in the song
  6. 04:38:515 (6,3) - Blanket thing
  7. 04:56:913 (7,1) - I would try to emphasize 1 a lot more, since it's going into the final kiai part.
Kinda sucks that season 2 for this show sucked.

Looks really good and I love the hitsounds, heres a star and good luck battle \o/
Topic Starter
Battle
FG

FoxyGrandpa wrote:

Battle wrote:

if kaneki ken i ken too
Comedy

From ur m4m queue

hitsounds so good oo

  • [modz]
  1. 00:10:504 (5,3) - This triggers me, but idk if this was intentional .-.
  2. 01:28:736 (5,6) - I feel like these jumps should be emphasized a little more, cause the vocals pick up also I feel like this is pretty fine, considering that I don't exactly want to emphasize a whole lot during this part, as well as it being nice for the pattern
  3. 01:42:990 (4) - can u move this to like x:87 y:108 cause the drums in the background and the decrease in spacing on a higher part of the song doesn't make much sense The pattern 01:42:990 (4,5,6,7) - is building up in it's intensity, I feel that it is fine the way it is, as it makes a nice pattern as well as giving a little more "oomph" to the notes later on in the drums
  4. 02:35:034 (5) - Why is the spacing on this so drastic, decrease the spacing a bit on this and space 02:35:200 (6,1) - out a little more for the emphasis on 1
  5. 03:39:012 (1,3) - U should also space these out cause it's still pretty intense in the song
  6. 04:38:515 (6,3) - Blanket thing
  7. 04:56:913 (7,1) - I would try to emphasize 1 a lot more, since it's going into the final kiai part. This is pretty fine since I find the last kiai pretty lackluster in terms of what you can do for emphasis, this seems pretty fine lol
Kinda sucks that season 2 for this show sucked.

Looks really good and I love the hitsounds, heres a star and good luck battle \o/

ty
heyronii
From your queue. M4M:

  1. 00:14:648 (8,9,1,6,7,1) - It seems like you like triples. You used them everywhere but for here I feel like these triples are not really necessary. (Maybe make their hitsounds "drums" instead of "auto")
  2. 00:18:294 (5,6,7,8,9,1) - Same thing happens but this time music is picking up, so this can stay.
  3. 01:18:460 (3,4) - Here, there are 3 syllables. "Kaa-ge-ga". But you did this with 2 sliders (Kaage - ga). I think Slider(Kaa) - Circle(ge) - Slider(ga) would be better. Because the "ge" sound is on the sliderend but it is a dominant sound in this song.
  4. 01:29:730 (3,4) - - Same thing on this one. You suddenly change the mapping from vocal to drums. I would suggest a S-C-C here.
  5. 02:00:476 (4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - This part is really hard to hit in game. Also this pattern does not exist in anywhere else in the map. Only here.
  6. 03:50:946 (1) - A slider here would be good.
  7. 04:23:432 (2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5) - I think this part should be harder since the song picks up.
  8. 04:52:769 (3,4) - You can change this to have consistency. Just let it be if you like it like this.
  9. 05:07:521 (8) - Ctrl-Shift-F this slider. 7 Stream would be much better here since the drums in song actually does that.
Topic Starter
Battle
hr

heyronii wrote:

From your queue. M4M:

  1. 00:14:648 (8,9,1,6,7,1) - It seems like you like triples. You used them everywhere but for here I feel like these triples are not really necessary. (Maybe make their hitsounds "drums" instead of "auto") mhm that's actually the point of it actually, rarely are most of the triplets actually in the music, I've hitsounded it so it sounds natural to be there
  2. 00:18:294 (5,6,7,8,9,1) - Same thing happens but this time music is picking up, so this can stay. mk
  3. 01:18:460 (3,4) - Here, there are 3 syllables. "Kaa-ge-ga". But you did this with 2 sliders (Kaage - ga). I think Slider(Kaa) - Circle(ge) - Slider(ga) would be better. Because the "ge" sound is on the sliderend but it is a dominant sound in this song. I can see where you're getting at, it's fairly reasonable to change this, however I feel like the simplified rhythm with having the "ge" sound of "kage" unclickable is completely ok, it's quite calm during this section so I feel that it's fine the way it is. I'm completely open to change this if more people mention it however, it's not too big of a deal to change lol
  4. 01:29:730 (3,4) - - Same thing on this one. You suddenly change the mapping from vocal to drums. I would suggest a S-C-C here. I switched over from mapping vocals instead of drums because the songs intensity has risen and prioritized the drums. However this does not mean I've ignored the vocals completely, as you can see all the vocals on the white ticks have movement as they are more intense than the ones on the red ticks.
  5. 02:00:476 (4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - This part is really hard to hit in game. Also this pattern does not exist in anywhere else in the map. Only here. It exists in the first kiai at 01:55:421 (7,1,2,3,4,5) - as well
  6. 03:50:946 (1) - A slider here would be good. having a pause emphasized the cymbal crash
  7. 04:23:432 (2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5) - I think this part should be harder since the song picks up. It picks up yes, but it's still quite calm, the part is powerful but the steady pace of it really emphasizes the beauty in the vocals on this part imo
  8. 04:52:769 (3,4) - You can change this to have consistency. Just let it be if you like it like this. Following drums so I'll keep this
  9. 05:07:521 (8) - Ctrl-Shift-F this slider. 7 Stream would be much better here since the drums in song actually does that. A jump stream isn't exactly something I would like unfortunately
midori_wah
100% Useless
01:31:719 (1) - Maybe you could turn this into a slider because the vocal is held out for a measure here.
03:07:189 (1) - ^ (Wow. A whole minute and a half with any errors seen by me. Either your map is good or I'm just really bad at modding.)
03:33:377 (6,7,1) - This seems a little hard to reach for players just getting into the 5* range. Also, the spacing used here is seen a lot throughout the map, so it is confusing.
03:50:946 (1) - Maybe make a 4 measure slider here because of the vocals being held out.
03:54:924 - You can do something like at 03:55:587 (1,2,3,1) .
04:24:095 (3) - Maybe stack this?
04:29:399 (4) - ^
05:42:327 - Maybe turn the volume at this section down since this part isn't instrumental and the vocal is really low.

Hope this helps at least once. My modding skills suck. QQ
Topic Starter
Battle
d_a

dark_assassin16 wrote:

100% Useless
01:31:719 (1) - Maybe you could turn this into a slider because the vocal is held out for a measure here. I prefer having a note here, the pause emphasizes the vocal quite nicely
03:07:189 (1) - ^ (Wow. A whole minute and a half with any errors seen by me. Either your map is good or I'm just really bad at modding.) ^ Also thanks for the semi-compliment lmao
03:33:377 (6,7,1) - This seems a little hard to reach for players just getting into the 5* range. Also, the spacing used here is seen a lot throughout the map, so it is confusing. Slight nerf to DS to make it more consistent w/ other 1/4 things like this. I don't feel like I need to nerf it too much since I don't think I used stacks during the kiai
03:50:946 (1) - Maybe make a 4 measure slider here because of the vocals being held out. Nah, I'm following a similar rhythm to Aka's map, hitsounds and some rhythms were heavily inspired by that map
03:54:924 - You can do something like at 03:55:587 (1,2,3,1) . There's no cymbal crash there, it lands on 03:54:592 - but that also has a rhythm I don't want to have mapped
04:24:095 (3) - Maybe stack this? It's like an anti-jump but not really sort of thing lol
04:29:399 (4) - ^ ^
05:42:327 - Maybe turn the volume at this section down since this part isn't instrumental and the vocal is really low.

Hope this helps at least once. My modding skills suck. QQ

Thanks for the mod!
Kinda realized I never wrote it but:
Green = Fixed
Purple = Comment
Blue = Unchanged
No comment = Fixed
Izzywing
hey

This song's pretty good

[general]

nothing lol

[Mod]

00:11:830 (6) - I feel like you can up the DS for this up to like 1.3 or something, its just like really small compared to everything else atm for no real reason.

00:27:742 (5) - You can actually blanket this with 3 if you curve it more - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6456372

00:40:007 (3) - NC?

00:51:443 (5) - From the way you prioritize this red tick here, I kinda expect that the one at 00:52:769 - would at least be mapped, let alone clickable.

00:55:090 - Feels a bit too strong to glance over with an extended slider. I suggest making this the tail and then having 00:55:172 - be part of a triplet.

01:01:222 (1) - This vocal feels strong enough to justify spacing it more imo. It's worth emphasizing.

01:05:034 (1) - Something like this with this shape would be cool - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6456449

01:05:034 (1,2) - blanket?

01:06:526 (1,2) - ctrl+j of 2 and 1 aren't perfectly parallel, rip - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6456443

01:11:250 - Not really any reason to skip this drum imo

01:31:719 - Unlike the other one's there isn't a finish in the music so it might be better to remove the finish for this one

01:37:189 (2,3) - Sampleset normal? tbh I'm kinda confused as to your sampleset normal pattern for the triplets, some of them have it some of them don't I can't discern a clear pattern as to why that is.

01:46:968 (3,1) - make properly parallel

02:12:742 (1) - Consider shaping this so that if you ctrl+H it, the first part is parallel with 02:13:156 (2) - (so that it looks like this - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6456522) I hope this makes sense lol

02:21:112 (2,3) - Move these a bit further away from the slider? Looks closer than 02:21:443 (1,2,3) - these guys are, due to the stack

02:31:719 (1,1) - blanket - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6456531

02:40:670 (1) - This spacing is a bit bigger than you usually use for 1/4, so I suggest reducing it. This sound isn't really much different than 02:37:686 (5,1) - for example, but the spacing is pretty different.

03:07:189 (1) - Same thing about the finish as before, it's not in the song for this one unlike the others so consider removing the hitsound

03:21:775 (1) - addition drum?
03:24:427 (1) - ^

03:28:073 (5,3) - This might sound dumb, but I don't think you should pefect stack these as it's not really what you've been doing in this map, like most patterns where there could be stacks you offset it (example: 03:12:161 (6,2) - ), I might just be overthinking this or something lol

03:53:598 (2) - Deserves a NC imo, along with 03:56:250 (3) - and 03:58:902 (3), these are much too intense to be part of the same combo as the other objects imo. And they're downbeats and all.

04:01:554 (1) - I think this finish should be a bit quieter to match how the music is going into the quieter section of the song, also the finish in the music is quieter than the finish at 04:01:222 - so it would fit in that way as well.

04:11:830 (3) - should have a lower SV than the 04:12:161 (1) - and beyond imo (well its not necessary but it would fit the music more)

I really like the lead in to the last kiai. Really well mapped.

05:18:128 (5) - Sampleset normal?

nice map, the last kiai is really fun in particular for me.

good luck!
Topic Starter
Battle
H2

Hobbes2 wrote:

hey

This song's pretty good

[general]

nothing lol

[Mod]

00:11:830 (6) - I feel like you can up the DS for this up to like 1.3 or something, its just like really small compared to everything else atm for no real reason. It's mostly for symmetry reasons, I don't feel like it's a huge issue, the entire start is pretty low ds anyways so it's not exactly noticeable

00:27:742 (5) - You can actually blanket this with 3 if you curve it more - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6456372 I'm cool with it only being partially blanketed

00:40:007 (3) - NC? I don't tend to NC things like this if it starts on a triplet or something, it always seems unnecessary to me

00:51:443 (5) - From the way you prioritize this red tick here, I kinda expect that the one at 00:52:769 - would at least be mapped, let alone clickable. The vocal is held and this is held lol, it just so happens the drum is here as well

00:55:090 - Feels a bit too strong to glance over with an extended slider. I suggest making this the tail and then having 00:55:172 - be part of a triplet.

01:01:222 (1) - This vocal feels strong enough to justify spacing it more imo. It's worth emphasizing.

01:05:034 (1) - Something like this with this shape would be cool - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6456449 I don't like that shape

01:05:034 (1,2) - blanket? It's cool where it is, either way it's not exactly noticeable that it's not blanketed, it's fairly within that range and it doesn't make a huge difference it it was, not exactly polishing since it's not exactly supposed to be a blanket lol

01:06:526 (1,2) - ctrl+j of 2 and 1 aren't perfectly parallel, rip - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6456443 It's current position is fine

01:11:250 - Not really any reason to skip this drum imo I don't hear anything here though

01:31:719 - Unlike the other one's there isn't a finish in the music so it might be better to remove the finish for this one It feels pretty empty without it though, especially since i made the hitsounds gradually get louder for these

01:37:189 (2,3) - Sampleset normal? tbh I'm kinda confused as to your sampleset normal pattern for the triplets, some of them have it some of them don't I can't discern a clear pattern as to why that is. mhm I kinda made the things that sound REALLY weird with hitsounds with no hitsounds, that's kinda just the reasoning behind it, if it sounds really weird I just didn't do the regular hitsounding that I did

01:46:968 (3,1) - make properly parallel

02:12:742 (1) - Consider shaping this so that if you ctrl+H it, the first part is parallel with 02:13:156 (2) - (so that it looks like this - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6456522) I hope this makes sense lol I don't understand this so I made it straight

02:21:112 (2,3) - Move these a bit further away from the slider? Looks closer than 02:21:443 (1,2,3) - these guys are, due to the stack 02:21:443 (1,2,3) - is literally just a mirrored thing of 02:20:780 (1,2,3) - tho lol

02:31:719 (1,1) - blanket - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6456531

02:40:670 (1) - This spacing is a bit bigger than you usually use for 1/4, so I suggest reducing it. This sound isn't really much different than 02:37:686 (5,1) - for example, but the spacing is pretty different.

03:07:189 (1) - Same thing about the finish as before, it's not in the song for this one unlike the others so consider removing the hitsound same thing thing

03:21:775 (1) - addition drum? same as first kiai, structured regular finish because I feel it sounds better
03:24:427 (1) - ^ ^

03:28:073 (5,3) - This might sound dumb, but I don't think you should pefect stack these as it's not really what you've been doing in this map, like most patterns where there could be stacks you offset it (example: 03:12:161 (6,2) - ), I might just be overthinking this or something lol Sure lol

03:53:598 (2) - Deserves a NC imo, along with 03:56:250 (3) - and 03:58:902 (3), these are much too intense to be part of the same combo as the other objects imo. And they're downbeats and all. feeling of unity is broken when nc'd, they are all things in like an individual like group of notes anyways, so it's fine the way it is

04:01:554 (1) - I think this finish should be a bit quieter to match how the music is going into the quieter section of the song, also the finish in the music is quieter than the finish at 04:01:222 - so it would fit in that way as well.

04:11:830 (3) - should have a lower SV than the 04:12:161 (1) - and beyond imo (well its not necessary but it would fit the music more) I feel having the winding sound be the same velocity as the others fits well, it's a winding up sound to be more energetic anyways

I really like the lead in to the last kiai. Really well mapped.

05:18:128 (5) - Sampleset normal? structured hitsoundinginging

nice map, the last kiai is really fun in particular for me.

good luck!

Thanks d
Izzywing
01:06:526 (1,2) - ctrl+j of 2 and 1 aren't perfectly parallel, rip - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6456443 It's current position is fine
I meant the shape not the position. ctrl+J 2 and then make it parallel with 1 (then move it back to its original position) it would improve the pattern as a whole is what I meant there. Kinda nazi so it's pretty optional

02:21:112 (2,3) - Move these a bit further away from the slider? Looks closer than 02:21:443 (1,2,3) - these guys are, due to the stack 02:21:443 (1,2,3) - is literally just a mirrored thing of 02:20:780 (1,2,3) - tho lol
yeah but since osu! stacks in the same direction if you just copy paste and mirror it wont be the same because the stack goes down and to the right by default, so the two hit circles will look closer when the slider is on the right

it makes sense in my head but idk how to explain it lol
Topic Starter
Battle
k flatter and moved 2 pixels
Winnie
Free PP
2016-11-21 00:23 Kocari: yeah
2016-11-21 00:23 Kocari: some offset issues when playing
2016-11-21 00:23 Kocari: I was getting a lot of 100s
2016-11-21 00:23 Battle: I just copied offset from aka's
2016-11-21 00:23 Battle: I'll recheck offset tho
2016-11-21 00:24 Battle: yep
2016-11-21 00:24 Battle: it was early lmao
2016-11-21 00:25 Kocari: yeah just slightly
2016-11-21 00:25 Battle: fixed
2016-11-21 00:25 Kocari: also what might throw people off
2016-11-21 00:25 Kocari: is the way you hitsound
2016-11-21 00:25 Kocari: the playing was nice
2016-11-21 00:25 Kocari: but the feedback from what it gives you seems out of place when playing
2016-11-21 00:25 Kocari: 00:51:116 (2,3,4,5,6,1) -
2016-11-21 00:26 Battle: hmm what do you mean by that?
2016-11-21 00:27 Kocari: can't really explain I'll show show you after I do it
2016-11-21 00:30 Battle: mk
2016-11-21 00:38 Kocari: almost done
2016-11-21 00:38 Battle: aight
2016-11-21 00:44 Kocari: ok
2016-11-21 00:44 Battle: I'm ready to be amazed
2016-11-21 00:44 Kocari: this is somewhat the ideal sort of hitsound situation to be played with http://puu.sh/sprdm/9cdde15d89.osz
2016-11-21 00:44 Kocari: I kept some of your ideas
2016-11-21 00:45 Kocari: Im missing some things but its the most representable to play the 3/4 without feedback problems
2016-11-21 00:45 Kocari: ignore note placement
2016-11-21 00:45 Battle: this sounds p cool
2016-11-21 00:48 Kocari: other than that the map plays well after this
2016-11-21 00:48 Kocari: especially now that offset is fixed
2016-11-21 00:48 Battle: cool
DeRandom Otaku
i ken alot
quick mod for kd farm
[General]
  1. HS with delay? drum-hitfinish.wav
  2. might be me only but -10 offset sounds much better
[Revival]
  1. A bit higher AR would be great since current one feels slow af
  2. 01:08:858 (5) - wouldnt it make more sense if this was 2 circles since 01:08:527 (4) - has vocal on head only while 01:08:858 (5) - has vocal on tail also
  3. 01:58:582 (3) - NC
  4. 03:30:074 (2,3,4,5,6,7,1) - Ok to be very honest this plays pretty awkwardly just because of that 1/2 stack at 03:30:903 (7,1) - (i choked here xd) That 1/2 stack really threw me off maybe cuz i had hidden on but still it just doesnt play very well due to that stack
  5. 03:45:986 (2,6) - Idk my eyes caught it but mayb make them perallel
  6. 04:45:986 - i know this might be intentional but that piano is really noticeable here and u should rather not ignore it
map itself is neat af
gl
Topic Starter
Battle
DRO

DeRandom Otaku wrote:

i ken alot me2
quick mod for kd farm
[General]
  1. HS with delay? drum-hitfinish.wav Hmmm, it doesn't appear to have a delay when looking at it in audacity
  2. might be me only but -10 offset sounds much better k
[Revival]
  1. A bit higher AR would be great since current one feels slow af I wanted to make something that reminded me of older mapping, the normal AR 9 with very flow-y gameplay that was enjoyable
  2. 01:08:858 (5) - wouldnt it make more sense if this was 2 circles since 01:08:527 (4) - has vocal on head only while 01:08:858 (5) - has vocal on tail also
  3. 01:58:582 (3) - NC
  4. 03:30:074 (2,3,4,5,6,7,1) - Ok to be very honest this plays pretty awkwardly just because of that 1/2 stack at 03:30:903 (7,1) - (i choked here xd) That 1/2 stack really threw me off maybe cuz i had hidden on but still it just doesnt play very well due to that stack This was definitely a mistake, was moving things iirc but never finished xd
  5. 03:45:986 (2,6) - Idk my eyes caught it but mayb make them perallel
  6. 04:45:986 - i know this might be intentional but that piano is really noticeable here and u should rather not ignore it Undermapping to go along with the cymbal here works well imo since it leaves a little bit of time where players aren't stressing anything, making the the break more impactful
map itself is neat af Thank
gl

You know what colors go to what xd
Squichu
Hellow~
Just making some suggestions!
stuff
  1. Hmmh, I read the previous reply about "older mapping", but I think slighlty higher AR would match better as well. It does feel somewhat slow for the difficulty level, not too slow, but it would help players to differntiate between different structured patterns, too. (Like 00:40:330 (4,5) - and 00:42:485 (7,1) - just as one example.)
  2. You might want to consider using a silent sliderslide for this part 01:11:822 - . It's so calm and quiet, the sliderslide sounds disturbing, imo. >:
  3. 05:07:844 - Would be nice to have a Kiai fountain here because the two parts are so different.
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  4. Overall I noticed some extended sliders that don't make sense to me, because you're skipping some well audible sounds that you sometimes even mapped at similar parts. I don't want to list all of them as I'm sure you had your reasons, I'd just like to ask you to take a look and make sure they match everywhere and follow some kind of consistency, there might be some slip-ups that went unnoticed so far.
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  5. 00:10:164 (4) - Try to avoid overlap with hp bar? It's just minor but looks so much better then. xD
  6. 00:11:490 (5,6) - Could you space them further apart? Compared with all other objects these two are pretty close, so this feels off while playing, imo.
  7. 00:12:816 (4,5) - I think it would work well to move (5) closer to (4) to further emphasize the strong sound on (4). Also, (6) is much clearer and louder than (5) but distance is smaller? (415|250 for (5) is nice, imo.)
  8. 00:14:474 (7,8,9,1) - and 00:15:800 (5,6,7,1) - might be just me, but this was extremely unintuitive. D: ..Which is not bad in general, but since the rhythm is pretty clear I think this could be better structured. You could for example unstack the previous circles and space them really close (0.9-ish?) instead, so players don't get confused as easily if (8) is spaced; example for first pattern: http://puu.sh/syftn.jpg (Imagine (1-6) as a beautiful hexagon).
    And maybe you even want to think about a different appraoch for this whole section.. I mean I get your idea and it's totally okay as is, but you could put a lot more emphasis on the new strong sounds on the white ticks and 00:14:722 (9) - by just removing the circles from the red ticks. That would simplify this a lot, but given that the sounds on the white ticks are new and much clearer that's justified. And if you start this easy here you can add another layer with each downbeat til 00:18:783 (1) - so you'd get a more intense build-up section. Up to you ofc, just a thought that crossed my mind. c:
    (I don't get why 00:17:457 (1) - is extended tho, there's a well audible sound on the red tick?)
  9. 00:20:606 (2,3,5) - No matter how often I listen to this part, I can't hear anything at all that calls for circles..well, there is something on (5), yes.. but is there anything I'm not noticing at (2,3)? Seems overmapped to me.. '^' especially since you have blank parts 00:24:584 - 00:25:910 - that are very similar, I don't understand why you've mapped (2,3).
  10. 00:24:087 (1) - and 00:25:413 (1) - 00:26:739 (1) - Shouldn't they be split up to emphasize the sounds on the red ticks?
  11. 00:27:236 (2) - Move this a few pixels closer to (1)? 00:22:761 (1,2,3) - worked slightly better cause of the different spacing.
  12. 00:28:562 (2) - similar to ^; but could as well be removed so 00:28:728 (3,4,5,6,1) - have more impact. o:
  13. 00:39:833 (1,2) - Feels a bit weird (to me at least) to start again on this "random" sound, but up to you. I think it's better to start on (3), but is fine as is ofc. uvu
  14. 00:40:993 (6,7) - You might want to turn them into a slider to emphasize the vocals better.. you've been emphasizing them with the previous objects so it feels weird to end so abruptly with (6), especially since (7) isn't such a dominant sound and you do the same here 00:43:645 (4) - anyway.
  15. 00:50:524 (7) - Is this one necessary? Sounds to me like two completely separate parts since the first one is instruments only and second one has vocals. Also, you could emphasize (6) and (1) much better if you removed this, imo. '^'
  16. 01:02:374 (1) - Split up to make 01:02:706 - clickable? Feels better rhythm-wise, imo, cause of the break in instruments/vocals. Same for 01:05:026 (1) -
  17. 01:06:187 (5,6,7,8) - Are you sure about this? The short stream doesn't really go well with the vocals starting on (7).. and I can't hear anything that needs to be mapped like this at all.
  18. 01:11:490 (6,1) - Aah, I like how the pace changes here, but you might want to unstack them to match the melody better? I mean after (6) there's no silence or anything that ends abruptly, the melody changes softly so while playing it feels off to stay at one place for so long and wait for the slider.. it would be more interesting and fitting if you moved (1) a bit, doesn't have to be much, 280|345 would work fine.
  19. 01:18:452 (3) - This one's pretty surprising. There's a well audible sound on the white tick and a new syllabel.. You've also mapped the similar rhythm previously with slider + circle (01:15:137 (2,3) - ), so why do you skip this suddenly? .. Then again, you continue with the 1/1 rhythm afterwards until 01:22:264 (6) - .. you might want to remove 01:15:634 (3,5) - and shorten 01:18:452 (3) - to 1/2 if you want to keep this simplified or add more 1/2s similar to 01:15:634 (3,5) - if you want to keep a faster pace.
  20. 01:30:385 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - compared with 01:32:374 (2,3,4,5) - feels odd somehow. I mean the first one is louder and builds-up towards 01:31:711 - , so increasing the spacing is fine, but the second part is even more exciting and has a much faster pace so I don't get why the spacing is so low for the second part.. feels extremely disproportional.. since the red ticks for the first part aren't that strong you could remove them to improve on relativeness(?), but that might turn out a bit too underwhelming. :/ You could also replace them with sliders and keep the spacing, sliders would make this much easier but you'd still have everything emphasized nicely.. or maybe you could try following vocals more closely? http://puu.sh/syiUz.jpg
  21. 01:33:037 - whole Kiai part - Tbh I don't like it too much, it feels way too overmapped to me. s: I mean it's your decision how you want to map this and there are a lot of things that work well, like 01:37:678 (5,6,7,8) - for example. There's nothing in the song there that changes so much, but the drum hitsounds add something interesting > more variety and it's also very nice to play. However, there are a lot of objects (eg 01:33:866 (4,5,6) - 01:35:606 (6) - or 01:53:175 (2) - ) that.. well, are just there without a good reason (at least I can't find any). And there are extended sliders like 01:43:645 (1,2,3,4) - which could be fine, but it feels so weird if the same rhythm here 01:46:297 (1,2,3,4) - is mapped completely different (imo works much better, but just personal preferance). Hm.
  22. 01:45:468 (1) - What's this NC for? o: same wuestion for 03:20:938 (1) - ofc
  23. 02:14:805 (5,6,7,8) - missing hitsounds?
  24. 02:27:402 (1,2,3,4) - This feels pretty random. Is there any good reason to place them like this? Since 02:26:076 (1,2,3,4) - is basically the same I'd expect the second pattern to have a different rhythm if I see them spaced differently like that. :c
  25. 02:32:043 (4) - Pretty random, too, as it's the only 1/1 slider here.. and it doesn't really match the vocals that well cause of the new word or syllabel on the current sliderend.. split this up?
  26. 02:41:490 (5,6,7) - Increasing the spacing so much feels a little off, imo. Beat isn't really strong, no vocals.. move them closer?
  27. 02:49:280 (3,4,5,6) - Uhm, similar to 02:27:402 (1,2,3,4) -.
  28. 03:05:855 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - similar to the other one.. but here it feels more disproportional because all objects are spaced. :c If you want to keep it as-is, please at least refine the spacing of the circles for the first pattern.. most times the distance to (2)s is much higher than the one to (1)s, so they have much more emphasis while they're a lot weaker.
  29. 03:29:059 (1,1) - Why NCs here?
  30. 04:18:617 - This blank space feels rather awkward since it's the only one in the whole section.. why don't you turn 04:18:120 (3) - into two sliders? Plays better imo.
  31. 04:19:778 (4) - Use two circles instead to have the sound on 04:19:943 - clickable?
  32. 04:25:910 (2,3) - Consider unstacking them to emphasize the strong sound on (3) better? Feels weird that players don't have to move at all.. (3) should have more impact. Same for 04:31:214 (2,3) -
  33. 04:33:037 (5,1) - Similar to ^; players have to stay at one place for far too long, imo. >:
  34. 04:45:800 (3) - Shouldn't this start on the white tick? Doesn't make sense to skip the strong sound there.
  35. 04:51:932 - to 04:56:408 - This part feels slightly off because of the little blank gaps.. some suggestions if you're willing to change some things:
    04:52:595 - feels pretty weird because the vocals start there. And because (2) starts on nothing and ends on one of the strongest sounds. Try http://puu.sh/sykWH.jpg maybe?
    04:53:756 - feels weird because of the held vocals, so consider turning 04:53:590 (2) - into a slider?
    04:54:916 - is similar, you could try http://puu.sh/syl3h.jpg ?
    04:56:242 - also similar, 04:55:910 (4) - would work as 1/1 as well. (4) is also missing NC
  36. 05:03:203 (3) - Consider splitting this to have the sliderend clickable.. it's not only a very strong beat but also loud vocals.
  37. 05:29:722 (3,4,5,6) - Similar to 02:27:402 (1,2,3,4) -.
  38. 05:35:689 (1,2) - Any reason for adding sliders in this fast paced part with otherwise only circles and 1/2s when there even are a pretty strong sounds on all white ticks? D: I don't get this. '_'
  39. 05:42:319 (1,2) - Consider unstacking them, same reasoning as 01:11:490 (6,1) -.
I like the design, but I can't pass this, so that's all from me. Good luck!
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